Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Apr 2014 12:46

most such folks can take up gym or real cycling. easy on the joints and enough strength and aerobic workout if done 30 mins x 3 times a week.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 23 Apr 2014 12:54

ashish raval wrote:It is frankly laughable in twenty first century that we have dynasty charm while rest of the world chooses the best mong the best to represent their country, while congress chooses a person with zero track record and project to be a pm candidate. All I can see Rahul in corporate world is anaccountant sitting on desk and managing day to day life. He may be a good person but his pathetic track record does not inspire leadership confidence in him. Idea that a good person like manmohan was used to take all the flak while all the good ideas by manmohan were plagiarised and made his own is even more sickening.

Please he is more of a HRish, trainer types, who spout thoery in trainings
he does not understand anything about balancing books

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 23 Apr 2014 13:08

Question for people making phone calls like Frederic, Prem Kumar.

Isn't BJP list from their records the source for most phone numbers ?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 23 Apr 2014 15:42

This is what secularism has come to. Every scoundrel can abuse his position to loot,promote Sonia cabal,support foreign powers and spread lies.

I don't have a problem if he sends a personal mail. But this scum chose to use his authority as Principal to screw with students in college. I hope they take action to remove him or destroy this institution. We need to start teaching a lesson to these scoundrels.

Mumbai: Xavier’s principal slams Guj model in email to students

The principal of St Xavier's college, Dr Frazer Mascarenhas in Mumbai has written a strongly-worded email to students of the college, where he has criticised the Gujarat Model of Development while praising UPA's Rojgar Yojana and Food Security bill. The email has also been up on the college's website, which can be seen here. The message which is titled, "In the Background of Elections - The Development Debate", begins by talking about what constitutes Human development in the context of the elections. It goes on to reads, " The Gujarat model has been highlighted for our consideration...Is the growth of big business, the making of huge profits, the achievement of high production – what we seek? Or is it the quality of life for the majority in terms of affordable basic goods and services and the freedom to take forward the cultural aspirations of our plural social groups that make up India?" The email then says that Gujarat has been good for big businesses but where quality of life is concerned, the state has not done well. File photo St Xavier's students with the college building in the background. Reuters The email says, "All the Human Development Index indicators and the cultural polarisation of the population show that Gujarat has had a terrible experience in the last 10 years. Take the example of education: schools for the ordinary populace show abject neglect with a very high dropout rate in the last 10 years. Higher Education has not been allowed to move forward... Gujarat has also been the worst performer in settling claims and distributing title deeds to tribal people and other forest dwellers, as shown by the latest data put out by the Union Tribal Affairs Ministry. Till 2013, the State, with 15% tribal population, settled only 32 per cent of the claims, the lowest rate in the country." The email then goes on to contrast this with the Rojgar Yojana and the Food Security Act, and says that while these schemes have been dismissed as election sops, they are necessary to the wellbeing of citizens. The email also goes on to mention the Right to Information ac

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 23 Apr 2014 15:51

+1 Vivek ji

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Apr 2014 15:56

^^Re the prince-pal's secular email...

Keisar ‏@Kesar_ 28m
Xaviers has 50% reservation for Christians but Padre asks not to vote for a "Communal Party". Jesus Loves You Brotha, but rest of us....

Aparajita Tripathi ‏@ArbitZeta 7m
@Kesar_ @Sootradhar They are worried that if #Modi comes to power, their mass-conversions will become difficult

I for one am glad such filth is meeting sunlight, after a long time. Sunlight is the best disinfectant after all. Let more such rot emerge from the cavities of the sekoolaids.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 23 Apr 2014 15:58

Does anyone know the background on Priyanka Chaturvedi? She was very actively propagating CongI viewpoint on twitter.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Apr 2014 16:00

Paul wrote:Does anyone know the background on Priyanka Chaturvedi? She was very actively propagating CongI viewpoint on twitter.

she's an official spokie for the INC. Must admit the cong doee manage to attract the PYT types quite a lot.... and do a kalpana giri on them.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 23 Apr 2014 16:12

Whatever happened to separation of religion and politics.

This educating heathens by civilized seems to not work during election times.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 23 Apr 2014 16:17

The Xavier chap addressing ishtudents is just bahana, the main message is to the community folks. Which means Congi was fearing some loss of votes in 1/2 seats to St. Kejri's candidates.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Apr 2014 16:18

Pee Vee ‏@PingVond 22h
Rechecked with a senior b'crat in Bihar- BJP is cruising there. This RJD revival talk is bunkum. JDU likely to finish no. 2 , after BJP!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 23 Apr 2014 16:34

S Gurumurthy ‏@sgurumurthy 1h

"@stthyagarajan: @sgurumurthy What's the latest on the NDTV ,PC tangle.All seems quiet." Wait for couple of days

प्रेरणा ‏@prerna2107 3h

JNU students Union to campaign against modi in kashi to question the powerful n create a space for alternative democratic voices to be heard

The Indian Express ‏@IndianExpress 3h

JUST IN: Sadhu Yadav, brother of Rabri Devi, has withdrawn his nomination for LS polls, says he doesn't want to divide Nitish Kumar's votes

Prasanna Viswanathan ‏@prasannavishy 3h

AAP winning 0 seats so far. Out of 301 left given up on 300. All money that they collected (mostly middleeast donors) splurged on 1 seat

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 23 Apr 2014 16:48

SRoy wrote: Reaction of BJP/SS is very surprising on Kadam's remarks. They could have said that people damaging / kicking martyrs memorials are liable for punishment, religion doesn't matter.
But the official statements issued, also from Modi, is purely Muslim appeasement. They will lose votes of core vote bank.

Another statement like this, I'll have to rethink my vote.

Maybe Rahul Mehta was right all along.

Just off the phone with my father who is obviously voting for Shri Vichare the SS candidate from Thane. One of the employee who is of Vihari descent, was unsure if he should vote for Vichare. He was considering the NCP candidate Naik. He said SS activists - many who are Muslims- are doing a lot of hard work in Mumbra area where Muslims are main residents. They do not believe Kadam's remark will have any effect on the general voting trends. take this fwiw.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 23 Apr 2014 16:53

>>>JNU students Union to campaign against modi in kashi to question the powerful n create a space for alternative democratic voices to be heard

what is JNUs contribution to india exactly? seems to be the hangout for all leftists, maoists and assorted anarchists always going around banging drums and generally being a nuisance

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 23 Apr 2014 16:54

JNU is like mordor churning out orcs to battle for the dark lord.

James B · Post by **James B** » 23 Apr 2014 16:59

This story of Amethi tells how Congress has been able to rule this country for so long - by keeping people poor.

Why the Gandhis get votes in Amethi

Education and access fuel the mind, and that has been-perhaps strategically-kept off-bounds in Amethi. The Gandhi aura continues to enamor because the residents of Amethi don't want answers. They have never asked questions and because they don't know any better, they have never felt the need to.

So, what gets the Gandhis the votes? India is feudal at heart and brain, and Amethi residents have been encouraged to remain that way. The 'mai-baap', 'raja-praja' politics thrive in the area. Lack of education has kept them away from thinking independently and demand answers, the power brokers of the district are old-time Gandhi loyalists and in rural areas it is the mukhiya, or the village head, who usually dictates who gets the votes.

For a voter in America, development could mean a city that's connected through WiFi, for a Bangalore voter development could mean a better garbage disposal system, for a Delhi voter development means better safety for women, but for the voter in Amethi development still is a farm loan waiver.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Apr 2014 17:01

Ramdas Kadam, Pramod Muthalik, Pravin Tagodia are people who need more space when the peacefools get too uppity and "communal cauldron" is boiling over, and they should get that space.

However elections are a time for "Secular Taqiyya" and these folks should just chill for a while and let others talk of equality and communal harmony!

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 23 Apr 2014 17:27

Bhairav Bhai : pls to be voting for shivsena onlee. Mns no good. After modi's clarifiction in bandra rally, the die is cast.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 23 Apr 2014 17:38

RajeshA wrote:Ramdas Kadam, Pramod Muthalik, Pravin Tagodia are people who need more space when the peacefools get too uppity and "communal cauldron" is boiling over, and they should get that space.

However elections are a time for "Secular Taqiyya" and these folks should just chill for a while and let others talk of equality and communal harmony!

Pramod Muthalik hiring goons to beat up women is not admirable, it is despicable, he only got a lot of votes for INC

Togodia has always asked to vote against Modi/ BJP.

His speeches only justify INC conspiracy theories to Minorities. He probably has ties to INC, Unlike say an amit Shah, INC never lifts a little finger agaainst him.

I don't think these 2 helped iN Gujarat or Mangalore against extremism.

Notice how mainstream media has left Togodia alone for GUj riots while pummeling every otheer Sangh Parivarr leader.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Apr 2014 17:42

Aditya_V ji,

the condition for contribution of these "firebrands" is situation when the peacefools act uppity. Don't think one should give them leeway under most other circumstances!

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 23 Apr 2014 17:50

Atri wrote:Bhairav Bhai : pls to be voting for shivsena onlee. Mns no good. After modi's clarifiction in bandra rally, the die is cast.

Never thought my mother to become so hard core modi fan. She has never voted until tomorrow where she is taking many of lazy bums to poll booth.

Even she was saying abki baar modi sarkar.

Vichare in Thane and Kirit Somaiya in mumbai north east will win.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 23 Apr 2014 17:51

pankajs wrote:Is Congress worried for Rahul Gandhi in Amethi?

Pappu ko khub danda maar
Abki baar Modi sarkaar

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 23 Apr 2014 17:59

ashish raval wrote:It is frankly laughable in twenty first century that we have dynasty charm while rest of the world chooses the best mong the best to represent their country, while congress chooses a person with zero track record and project to be a pm candidate. All I can see Rahul in corporate world is anaccountant sitting on desk and managing day to day life.

Antonia is good only for cooking and cleaning (not my words - Maneka Gandhi said this back in the 1990s) and she should have stuck to that. I don't think Pappu is fit to be even an accountant. At best he should have been a clerk or a chaprasi in some goremint office.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 23 Apr 2014 18:04

anyone on mullah-m chance? is it that bjp is giving a week fight?

Frederic · Post by **Frederic** » 23 Apr 2014 18:05

jamwal wrote:Question for people making phone calls like Frederic, Prem Kumar.

Isn't BJP list from their records the source for most phone numbers ?

Jamwal bhai, Yes, we realized the obvious skew in those lists. Our informal team is calling numbers obtained from JustDial.com. More representative.

We are concentrating on
1) South Chennai
2) Sivaganga
3)Tirunelveli
4)Pollachi
5)Kanyakumari

Pollachi will probably go to NDA. Rest are all touch and go. I am calling K'kumari as I type.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 23 Apr 2014 19:09

Watching Ajit Anjum in Varanasi on News24.His interview with muslims shows that muslims will go with Kejariwal.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 23 Apr 2014 19:25

Assam is shaping up to be an interesting story. From house help, barber and driver to upper middle class relatives, all are voting BJP for the first time and most are voting for the first time, period. The wily Bihari barber, his brother and cousins are going to vote in Guwahati tomorrow and then go to their village in Bihar to vote again in Phase 9. I gave him an extra tip for his rail fare. I only had to readjust the cleaning lady's thinking a little bit and clarify the options she and her family would have 10, 15 years down. Of course, the Marwari/Punjabi/Bihari communities are voting BJP en bloc. I hear the plains tribals (Bodo etc) are also going to be heavily BJP (many Bodo orgs incl students union have urged their people to vote BJP). The voting percentage should be high this time around too, in spite of a brutal heat wave.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Apr 2014 19:27

where is the sikular assamese middle class voting?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 23 Apr 2014 19:31

Madhu Kishwar ‏@madhukishwar 7h

From reliable sources:Congress & left allies planning to engulf India in large scale riots soon as modi becomes PM to destabilize India 1/n

Mausi may be her own source but the possibilities are certainly there and Modi needs to be prepared.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 23 Apr 2014 19:39

This is a very real threat. Many popular front and NDF sympathisers on FB etc are looking forward to Modi becoming PM. They are expecting polarisation in the coming years from which they can reap more recruits and grow. There will be no polatrisation if there are no riots so there will be engineered riots during Modi's rule.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 23 Apr 2014 19:52

Dilbu wrote:JNU is like mordor churning out orcs to battle for the dark lord.

More like Grima Wormtongues

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 23 Apr 2014 19:52

Dilbu wrote:This is a very real threat. Many popular front and NDF sympathisers on FB etc are looking forward to Modi becoming PM. They are expecting polarisation in the coming years from which they can reap more recruits and grow. There will be no polatrisation if there are no riots so there will be engineered riots during Modi's rule.

We have to find root cause of this. An average man in India is much more secular in general but if there are nefarious conspiracies planned by barbarians then the government has to have better, stronger and quicker way to deal with it, no circus of blame game should be allowed. Hopefully the next government will have air tight arrangements made to deal with barbarians and their conspiracies.

Media circus past 2002 burning alive of Hindu pilgrims and riots should be clearly tackled on how the media circus totally ignored conspiracy to burn Hindu pilgrims alive by barbarians.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Apr 2014 19:53

I am doing my bit kick a** of milind deora here in Mumbai tomorrow. we have Siva Sena here. Har har Mahadev.

Just spoken with people from Jharkhand. Har har Mahadev.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 23 Apr 2014 19:54

Singha wrote:where is the sikular assamese middle class voting?

The permanently senile, those suffering from dementia and those who depend on the largese of congis--ie. their relatives, certain babus, contractors, builders, retired guerrillas, surrendered terrorists, pardoned murderers and others who stand to lose a lot of easy income--will obviously sell their mothers and vote for the ~~Bangladeshis~~ Congress. But it is amazing to find BJP just below the surface without scratching too much with everyone else. This is a brand new phenomenon and it is widespread. Definitely a Modi wave.

As an aside, Modi and Rahul Gandhi had competing rallies in Nagaon the other day. Modi as usual pulled in excess of 1 lakh people which is amazing for that one horse town in the middle of a Muslim-majority district while pappu scored a few thousand. Then the local congi thugs ordered some media persons to say that pappu's crowd was over 1 lakh and when the media folks refused, they were threatened with consequences. This was immediately reported upon widely and complaints lodged.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 23 Apr 2014 19:55

Modi has been at the receiving end of all kinds of plots and propaganda for the last 12/14 years. He is very familiar with administration and use of state machinery. So I am not worried abt his command of the situation after 1 year on the seat. The initial 6 months will be the challenge when he gets up to speed the way Delhi/Union machinery functions.

However, there was a report that when Amit Shah was moved out of Gujarat he settled in Delhi and within no time had built his own network there so much so that he was privy to a lot of going ons within the gov. Surely they would have by now identified loyal bureaucrats who will from the nucleus of the Modi team at Delhi. Coupled with his understanding the turf of the Home Ministry, even if of a state, should help him and Modi from day 1 on the job.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 23 Apr 2014 19:59

Dinesh Ghodke ‏@DineshGhodke 1h

Shazia Ilmi has simplified it: Tomorrow choice is between Communal AAP, Corrupt Congress or Courageous Modi.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 23 Apr 2014 20:12

pankajs wrote:Modi has been at the receiving end of all kinds of plots and propaganda for the last 12/14 years. He is very familiar with administration and use of state machinery. So I am not worried abt his command of the situation after 1 year on the seat. The initial 6 months will be the challenge when he gets up to speed the way Delhi/Union machinery functions.

However, there was a report that when Amit Shah was moved out of Gujarat he settled in Delhi and within no time had built his own network there so much so that he was privy to a lot of going ons within the gov. Surely they would have by now identified loyal bureaucrats who will from the nucleus of the Modi team at Delhi. Coupled with his understanding the turf of the Home Ministry, even if of a state, should help him and Modi from day 1 on the job.

Sir that is fine however, this is at the best battle for 5 years. Those who call for strategic voting against BJP for votebank politics in democracy - and such serious behavioral factors - have affected the national interests for decades. So there has to be many many layers and dimensions of responses.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Apr 2014 20:15

Four points:

- Congress is prepping Priyanka Vadra to take over Rae Bareli as the next candidate after SoniaG.
- Mutalik, Togadia are working for Congress and seculars by their ill timed outbursts. Going by actions
- Sushmaji if her position is so precarious why was she so adamant to support SoniaG in Lok Sabha? It looked like she was the Leader of Congress in last Lok Sabha.

VikasRaina, The British rule after the long zabardasti (forceful) rule of Muslims and handover to British trained Congress leaders caused a misplaced sense of belief in legal system in Indians. This led to many mis-steps for which they are ruing. So please dont blame the Kashmiri Pandits only.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 23 Apr 2014 20:19

Any riots that are engineered will initially likely be timed to follow something like UCC or other "communal" bug bear legislation that Modi has put his weight behind and which will threaten "secular" freebies like reservations etc. Spontaneous combustions (rioting for no reason) will not be easy to sell to the foreign press as anything other than sour grapes, goondaism, vandalism and plain terrorism. Most likely, spontaneous combustions will happen later if some of the earlier riots don't produce the desired result. Regardless, we should expect that BJP and Modi have a firm handle on this already since it is such an obvious danger. I expect them to consolidate their iron fist first with police, armed forces, courts, administration and then venture from there. Don't expect any touchy subjects to be disturbed for the first 6-months to a year.

AjitK · Post by **AjitK** » 23 Apr 2014 20:24

Atri wrote:Bhairav Bhai : pls to be voting for shivsena onlee. Mns no good. After modi's clarifiction in bandra rally, the die is cast.

Atriji, why was the Mumbai South seat given to the Sena? It's almost suicidal. We had Jayawantiben for many years. The Shiv Sena was trailing Nandgaonkar in the last election. If the split in Marathi votes wasn't enough, quite a few non-Marathi voters are hesitant to vote for the Sena.