Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 24 Apr 2014 20:45

Chandragupta wrote:Mumbai is even worse than Delhi. Number one in taking out candle marches but no, we won't come out & vote, we are too chi chi only. What to expect from these people who re-elected Congress after 26/11. Shame.

Yes one should in the future provide some proof of having voted in the last elections if one wants to buy candles! Under 18, anybody can buy candles!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Apr 2014 20:46

How about nominating the candidate if the voter percentage is below a 50% in that seat!!!!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 20:50

ramana wrote:Extended poll schedule on security basis, even in states where there is no tension, is to give Congress a chance to slow the opposition rise in the overall elections. Second it induces voter fatigue as latter states might lose the tempo. By allowing multiple regional polls and treating each area as a silo, the EC has subverted the intent of holding national elections to the Lok Sabha. They made this seven regional elections to the Lok Sabha.

The magic this time is to dis-enfranchise voters by making their names disappear in Maharastra for one and in other regions with in margin of error (1-2%) so that there is little suspicion. In seats with multiple candidates this helps to skew the winners chances.

Note how seeing the impact of Modi wave in Bihar during the initial phases NiKu decides to commit political suicide and support RJD+CON. If the whole state went to the polls at the same time JDU/CON/RJP would not have had the opportunity to collude just to deny Modi.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 24 Apr 2014 20:51

Missing names, low voting in change seeking South Mumbai

Congress MP Milind Deora won easily from South Mumbai in 2009, benefitting from votes being split between the Shiv Sena and MNS candidates. This time around though, voters who spoke to Firstpost said they were determined to cast their ballot with both eyes firmly on the Central government.

Ashok was seated on a bench in front of a row of shops with three of his friends and said he chose not to vote on the basis of the local candidate in this election. "We want someone who can take the country forward," he said.

The four men claimed they had historically voted for the Congress but this time they wanted change. They admitted they would have much preferred to vote for a BJP candidate but in the absence of one, voted for Sawant as they saw a vote for the Shiv Sena as equivalent to a vote for the BJP since the two parties had formed a poll alliance.

There was a trickle of voters going in and out of the VP station polling booth around 10.30 am. Among them was Hemang Pandiya, a middle-aged Gujarati businessman, who said Narendra Modi was the only logical option if India wanted to get its economy back on track. "We are giving our vote to Modi. Modi must come," he told Firstpost.

However, he was ambivalent on the issue of corruption, saying "if there is no corruption, then work will not happen quickly".

Pandiya also cited Modi's standing as a strong Hindu leader as a reason to vote for him. "Modi is able to keep the peace in Gujarat. That is why people want to go to Gujarat to do business. That is important."

I hope scumbag CON's tricks won't work.

I am a responsible citizen who has all the documents in place. But I am not allowed to vote because they have not made any mention anywhere of my name. My father, my mother, my sister, my brother, everybody’s name is there. My name is not there. I have no idea why.

"I am 35 years old. I have voted as much as I can. I don’t know what to do. I don’t know whom to go fight with. We so badly want a change and to make a difference to this country but they are not giving us the power," she said. Had she been able to vote, Pakrasa said she too would have voted for Modi.

She alleged that about 50 people from her building, Tirupati Apartments near Mahalaxmi temple, had also discovered their names were missing and were similarly locked out of the vote. "Turnout would be 10 percent higher if not for this carelessness," Pakrasa said.

Here too most people Firstpost spoke to said they voted for the BJP even though there was no BJP candidate on the ballot. They felt a vote for the Shiv Sena candidate, Sawant, was effectively a vote for Narendra Modi and the BJP.

Change is necessary," said a group of three women in their early twenties. When asked who represented change, the reply was simple: Narendra Modi. "We have seen his enthusiasm and his spirit to do something for the country," one of them explained. "We have seen what he has done for Gujarat."

For most of the voters, the local candidate did not matter. It was more important to look at the bigger picture and elect a stable and strong government at the Centre that would tackle the twin issues of corruption and economic development. "Everything comes down to corruption," Ashwin (named changed) said. "If corruption goes, then the economy will improve." Dressed in a t-shirt and jeans, Ashwin and his two friends wanted a government that would improve infrastructure in the country and bring down inflation. Others felt that it was possible to tolerate some amount of corruption as long as something was simultaneously done for the country. The problem with the Congress was that they had become just corrupt, said Preethi (named-changed), who is in her late twenties. "Modi has shown some improvement in Gujarat. He should be given a chance," she said.

An elderly Parsi couple said they had wanted the "right person" to be elected and voted for the existing government. And there was Bharat (name changed), who felt change was needed to reduce corruption and increase development. However, in the absence of a BJP candidate, he could not bring himself to vote for the Shiv Sena or the MNS. In the end, he simply voted again for the Congress.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 24 Apr 2014 20:51

merlin wrote:This is specially for Suraj. No prizes for guessing who did this or why. I bet it will still look like CT to you.
joshi vaidya kulkarni patel shah jain gupte surnames max deleted in maharashtra

Why is it for me, and why would it look like a CT to me ? Also, why is a twitter post from someone other than a person we're familiar with credible ? My position has always been the reverse of your implication - think through the matter rather than looking cursorily at a matter and immediately assuming malicious intent.

Looking at the MH constituencies that polled today, they primarily abut the Gujarat border. At least half of the quoted names sound Gujarati to me. I'm not familiar with MH demographic distribution, but
a) it doesn't sound unreasonable that there are lots of GJ names in what used to be GJ-heavy areas of erstwhile Bombay Presidency.
b) several posters have already stated that the ASD list should be checked if they're missing from the conventional list. One of the reasons provided is misspelling of names. If a particular name is misspelled repeatedly, that makes it even more likely that a large number of unrelated people (e.g. Parekh like HDFC's Deepak Parekh) had their common surnames misspelled.

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 24 Apr 2014 20:53

vivek.rao wrote:
Muppalla wrote:This election may have been sabotaged by INC and EC.
Another disappointment won't be good for my heart.

2004,2009 and now ...

Two things that INC and a compromised EC have not thought of.
SC and OBC votes have swung around in large numbers.
BJP getting unexpected support along the East coast right from TN to Assam (as far as Tripura/Manipur).

AbhiJ · Post by **AbhiJ** » 24 Apr 2014 20:56

With MNS this time not against BJP, 2 seats are complete SWEEP for BJP.

Bandra Juhu Area (Mumbai North Central) has a good chance of BJP cutting off the Dutt cake finally to Shiv Sena.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 20:59

@Sroy

Exactly! The belief that High caste / High income voters will vote while the rest will vote CON. Guess what, the inflation has hit the poor hardest and even within poor the urban poor.

If folks have voted their pocket books or their stomach they have most likely voted for Modi except for the highly committed or the highly polarized.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 24 Apr 2014 21:00

The concept of "polling percentages" will be nullified once NaMo comes to power. Previously, in Gujarat he tried to bring compulsory voting, but cong-appointees in EC scuttled that concept. But NaMo in power can bring compulsory voting with feasible plans and implementation. So in future we can see 90-95% voting and it can effectively nullify "vote bank communities" veto power over Indian politics forever.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 21:02

Tax brake of 0.5% to tax payers and 5/100 marks credit to students as incentive for voting. Poor could be payed a days wage + 1 decent meal voucher to compensate for loss of pay.

Don't penalize but incentivize!

Santosh · Post by **Santosh** » 24 Apr 2014 21:24

Looking at what happened in Pune Bjp-SS combine must have been more careful in Mumbai. They should have done more door to door canvassing to check that people are in the list. Can't expect lazy mumbaikars to do that.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 24 Apr 2014 21:25

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/tn-li ... 93429.html

According to parents, polling was pretty anemic until 3 and picked up after that as the heat outside reduced. 73% in TN is not bad. Same as 09.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 24 Apr 2014 21:28

It's disappointing when BRFites come and post about how their extended family or themselves were missing from the voter list. You had so much time to check this before polling day. There's a sticky thread duplicated at the top of every forum here, providing voter registration advice. A few minutes checking that everyone you know who would vote was listed online, would have saved a lot of panic on polling day. I hope all those who faced trouble had a chance to go back and reconfirm against the ASD deleted voters list and still cast your votes.

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 24 Apr 2014 21:33

TN is likely the most unexpected story in this election, according to 5forty3.

Whoever advised Modi on that alliance in this Dravidian state needs to be saluted for his/her brilliance!

I recall @swamy39 cribbing about the alliance. Maybe he was wrong. Longer term, NaMo is open to alliances even beyond the NDA, perhaps with the objective of attracting talent into the BJP itself and let regional parties wither away.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 24 Apr 2014 21:36

Suraj wrote:It's disappointing when BRFites come and post about how their extended family or themselves were missing from the voter list. You had so much time to check this before polling day. There's a sticky thread duplicated at the top of every forum here, providing voter registration advice. A few minutes checking that everyone you know who would vote was listed online, would have saved a lot of panic on polling day. I hope all those who faced trouble had a chance to go back and reconfirm against the ASD deleted voters list and still cast your votes.

In my case, I had a panic attack with dad told me that he couldn't find thebooth because the old location school was now demolished, but someone from the corporation came by to each house with the info.

All iz well, 2 votes for the Dharmics.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 21:38

ABP News ‏@abpnewstv 59m

Mumbai breaks record with 54% voting; overall 57% voting in Maharashtra http://www.abplive.in/india/2014/04/24/ ... 1kxFlfqsdU …

Maharashtra turnout up to 57%

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 24 Apr 2014 21:39

pankajs wrote:Tax brake of 0.5% to tax payers and 5/100 marks credit to students as incentive for voting. Poor could be payed a days wage + 1 decent meal voucher to compensate for loss of pay.

Don't penalize but incentivize!

Now that is an original idea. Very Dharm Nirpeksha, very universal. That will push up the bribing cost to the corrupt politicians also kind of like NAREGA.

member_28025 · Post by **member_28025** » 24 Apr 2014 21:40

kmkraoind wrote:The concept of "polling percentages" will be nullified once NaMo comes to power. Previously, in Gujarat he tried to bring compulsory voting, but cong-appointees in EC scuttled that concept. But NaMo in power can bring compulsory voting with feasible plans and implementation. So in future we can see 90-95% voting and it can effectively nullify "vote bank communities" veto power over Indian politics forever.

But won't this action boom-rang on Modi? If people are forced to vote against their wishes, they just might vote for the party who was not forcing them to do so.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 24 Apr 2014 21:43

Disappointing but reality nonetheless.

One can only do so much to educate others. I know of 2 people who lost their votes, both late converts to Modi, and they didnt bother with the messed up process to reregister. Basically EC work is slipshod in several respects and many people have too much going on in their lives to track everything And its not effort either. One guy I know drove all over town to see if his name appeared in other lists.

Suraj wrote:It's disappointing when BRFites come and post about how their extended family or themselves were missing from the voter list. You had so much time to check this before polling day. There's a sticky thread duplicated at the top of every forum here, providing voter registration advice. A few minutes checking that everyone you know who would vote was listed online, would have saved a lot of panic on polling day. I hope all those who faced trouble had a chance to go back and reconfirm against the ASD deleted voters list and still cast your votes.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 24 Apr 2014 21:44

Singha wrote:Huge voting in Guwahati today.
my friend went with wife at 7am figuring ten min job then breakfast.
he got to vote at 9.30 after joining queue at 7am.

ppl are fed up with congis and want them out...all I know in ghy except mainorities must have voted BJP.

will TMC candidates take away some of the bengali vote from BJP ? or the cong vote ? or have no effect ?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 21:48

God know if Mausi is just farting but interesting ..

Madhu Kishwar ‏@madhukishwar 7m

Here's an incredible story about MM§. He was ordered by Her Majesty to go to Pilibhit in order to ween away "Sikh votes" from Maneka. 1/n

Madhu Kishwar ‏@madhukishwar 4m

2/n MM§ forgot he is PM &agreed to go & address just the Sikh community in Pilibhit to deprive maneka of "sikh"votes. But incompetence won..

Madhu Kishwar ‏@madhukishwar 1m

3/n PM security establishment decided to disallow Sikhs from attending PM's pub meeting fearing they are terrorists. Pilibhit §ikhs outraged

archan · Post by **archan** » 24 Apr 2014 22:01

I wonder why does she always use the symbol instead of the letter S. Broken S key in the keyboard?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Apr 2014 22:06

BJP may only win in Mumbai due to NaMo wave. Otherwise there is a high chance of losing the city. Too many voters are disenfranchised by the EC. Some may call shoddy but it could be a deliberate stuff. I will bet Telangana will have the same stuff happening. HYD folks have to watch next. It is not a small number that about 6lac voters not finding their names.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 22:12

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RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 24 Apr 2014 22:20

Dr. Praveen Patil @5Forty3 · 2m
When BJP was facing a serious challenge today morning, do you know who came to its rescue? Dalits!

Dr. Praveen Patil @5Forty3 · 44s
24th April will go down as the day Dalits embraced Modi on a crucial day and created a tectonic shift in Indian political landscape

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 24 Apr 2014 22:27

RajeshA wrote:
Dr. Praveen Patil @5Forty3 · 2m
When BJP was facing a serious challenge today morning, do you know who came to its rescue? Dalits!

Dr. Praveen Patil @5Forty3 · 44s
24th April will go down as the day Dalits embraced Modi on a crucial day and created a tectonic shift in Indian political landscape

Dalit vote swing is a big takeaway from this general elections. And it will have an important and lasting ramification on the Hindutva movement.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 22:29

Sucheta Dalal ‏@suchetadalal 16m

@VinitaDeshmukh Your investigation along with MrPhadke will tell if it is deliberate sabotage or faulty IT infrastructure @sardesairajdeep

Vinita Deshmukh ‏@VinitaDeshmukh 14m

@suchetadalal @sardesairajdeep true.we are filing FIR 2morrow morning as documents show they were fraudulently created 2 facilitate deletion

Good! Let EC officials answer how voter who have voted in the past and have not changed address in between then and now had their names deleted. We have to make EC answerable to the voters of India.

Vinita Deshmukh ‏@VinitaDeshmukh 8m

@anaghapp @AnilShiroleBJP filing a FIR tomm against Phadke's fradulent deletion of name. will tweet the time,venue http://www.moneylife.in/article/pune-vo ... 37142.html …

In order to keep up the pressure, citizens are requested to file a complaint at the Election Office, 3rd floor, Old Zilla Parishad Office or Saraf Association office on Laxmi Road or Grahak Peth on Tilak Road. Citizens can get in touch with me on vinita p u n e @ g m a i l.com if they would like to do file inspection for their name deletion.

Folks pass this message along.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 24 Apr 2014 22:37

Shamlee wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:The concept of "polling percentages" will be nullified once NaMo comes to power. Previously, in Gujarat he tried to bring compulsory voting, but cong-appointees in EC scuttled that concept. But NaMo in power can bring compulsory voting with feasible plans and implementation. So in future we can see 90-95% voting and it can effectively nullify "vote bank communities" veto power over Indian politics forever.
But won't this action boom-rang on Modi? If people are forced to vote against their wishes, they just might vote for the party who was not forcing them to do so.

All he needs to cajole people, by saying like "Even if you do not like me or others, just use NOTA option, but do not voting you are not participating in democracy process, i.e. choosing leaders and setting agendas, so I am doing this for a good cause." If Sickular camps cries fouls and takes dharnas and create ruckus, it will polarize Hindus. Its all about packing and delivering, and NaMo on many occasions proved he is good at it.

NaMo and his men would have thought of all scenarios, when they first legislated "compulsory voting" in Gujarat assembly.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 22:41

Bahut Krantikari!

Yashwant Deshmukh ‏@cvoter 26m

Pls congratulate @vinodkapri for showing this "Krantikari" Opinion Poll of Varanasi. Amazing.. #OperationPM Anyone?? pic.twitter.com/EPm0qYbARt

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 24 Apr 2014 22:44

adds up to 85%,

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 24 Apr 2014 22:45

archan wrote:I wonder why does she always use the symbol instead of the letter S. Broken S key in the keyboard?

It is a double S (secret service - hmv onlee).

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 24 Apr 2014 22:58

SRoy wrote:Dalit vote swing is a big takeaway from this general elections. And it will have an important and lasting ramification on the Hindutva movement.

Not just the Dalit swing, but the Yadav too. In the earlier phases in BSP strongholds, Yadav backing helped BJP against BSP, while SP was hurt. In this phase, Dalit backing helped BJP against SP, with BSP further behind.

One tweetable topic is that despite the 'divisive' tag, the BJP's biggest threat to others is its unifying potential. It's the others, who had their previous votebanks breached by the BJPs combined OC+OBC+BC+minoritysupport base this time. In UP/BH, it's the dalits and OBCs (in additional to the traditional OC base) voting for BJP that's changing things. In MH, MNS doesn't appear to have hurt BJP/SS as much as in 2009, which is helping.

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 24 Apr 2014 23:01

Suraj wrote:In MH, MNS doesn't appear to have hurt BJP/SS as much as in 2009, which is helping.

Yes, as the Hindu vote consolidates these pin pricks will not hurt.
Similar is the case of mischievous deletions in voter's list going by surnames. Whoever did that was not aware of the undercurrents.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Apr 2014 23:25

RajeshA wrote:
Dr. Praveen Patil @5Forty3 · 2m
When BJP was facing a serious challenge today morning, do you know who came to its rescue? Dalits!

Dr. Praveen Patil @5Forty3 · 44s
24th April will go down as the day Dalits embraced Modi on a crucial day and created a tectonic shift in Indian political landscape

SRoy wrote: Dalit vote swing is a big takeaway from this general elections. And it will have an important and lasting ramification on the Hindutva movement.

This is great movement in independent India (if this really happened).

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 24 Apr 2014 23:29

First step to unite Hindu society which treats Dalits greatly. Hope UC in UP recognize it and embrace them to remove the evil influence of EJs and Islamists

Great move to get Udit Raj,Pawan into fold

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Apr 2014 23:30

Two things Dalit votes swing in North India and BJP performance in TN. Both show marginalisation politics are passe or finish.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 24 Apr 2014 23:34

let us wait till may 16th before we make these kind of sweeping transformatory statements.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 24 Apr 2014 23:39

atanu bhuyan ‏@atanubhuyan 1h

My final tally: Cong: 2 BJP: 8 AIUDF: 3 BPF: 1 AGP:

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 24 Apr 2014 23:46

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 24 Apr 2014 23:48

IMHO locally in Mumbai, the traditional core voters of BJP, i.e, middle and upper middle class Gujarati/Marwadi votes, (who has never voted for SS out of old memories from early 60's when both Maharashtra and Gujarat got created and in its early years SS was anti-guju party for all practical purpose) has voted for SS in south Mumbai in droves. All of my extended family and friends became first time SS voters today simply cause all voted for "MODI" and almost all didnt even knew or care who is local candidate on ballot paper!!. Heck i am first hand witness to ppl calling out hey no lotus on list only and laughingly being told to press for bow and arrow (shiv sena symbol) while in booth! The modi wave, the one that MSM is trying so hard to deny, is sole reason my 75 plus year old dad held his nose and accepted my argument to vote for SS as its vote for better India. I would say even if Milind Deora manages to scrape through, after spending money like water and bribing Xavier's principal to come out with anti-bjp plea etc., the modi effect is truly Pan-India and not only consolidating against caste divisions but is also overcoming regionalism or linguistic and class divides!!