AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ShyamSP » 25 Apr 2014 22:54

Suraj wrote:Would one of you AP experts please explain further as to who/what Velamas are here and how the Reddys or ashrafs are associated with the older landlord system ?


Pecking order in old Nizam system:

Nizams/Nawabs -> Ashrafs -> Ashraf/Ajlaf mix -> Ajlafs
Nizams/Nawabs -> Doras (landlord Reddy/Velma/Brahmana families) -> upper-castes -> BCs -> SCs

KCR is Velama but he is not Dora as he father family was migrants to Telangana. Channameneni Vidaya Sagar Rao (BJP and ex Unionon minister) is Velama and Dora. TRS has many Velamas so its cheif KCR is represenation of that Dora culture that grandma is apprehensive about.

Most of Reddys of Telangana currently in prominence are not Doras but ordinary caste folks. But some of them have that Dora culture still in them.

Some here argue that Ashrafs mainly found in and get power from MIM party can turn these Velamas and Reddys into Doras so they can bring back old pecking order. By having seperate Telangana Ashrafs and Doras think they can reduce power of non-Telangana Reddys and Kammas who over-lorded them in united AP post-independence.

Examples:
Reddy Dora: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadwal_Samsthanam
Velama Dora: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanaparthy_Samsthanam
Ashraf and Dora hybrid product: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aditi_Rao_Hydari
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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Virupaksha » 25 Apr 2014 23:04

Suraj,

What you are asking is in simple terms thesis topics for all their sociology students for the next 25 years for a half decent university.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajanna
I would ask you to watch a brilliant telugu movie called rajanna. Shorn of the over histrionics and national integration sentiments, the super man hero - the film potrays the feudal era of the collaboration of the feudals with the ashrafs.

Also note that only telangana had a near continuous muslim rule, since 1200 - after the defeat of kakatiyas by tughlaq. There was a brief interim where the local elite came together and threw out the rule. But the divisions were ruthlessly exploited and the rule was reestablished.

The coast seperated by the eastern ghats was a football between local elite, orissan gajapatis, muslim kings of telangana and the vijayanagara empire. After the fall of the vijayanagara, it went into nearly 200 years of muslim rule from telangan but the local revolts were never pacified. This was the reason why the coast was one of the first areas which he gave to french, then the british.

The rayalseema which is on the south side of tungabhadra was under complete dominance and center of vijaynagara empire. After its fall, this area was in the center of remnants of vijaynagara empire, nizams from top, mysore from the west and sort of became badlands where proper rule couldnt be completely established - until the british took it. Note that there was a nawab of kadapa under the nizam. These badlands included madras where the british established their first foot hold by taking "permission" from a remnant vijaynagara king who was ruling from penukonda.

So the near control domination of a single caste was possible only in telangana because of the continuous rule. Thus though feudals existed in both rayalseema and coast, the level of feudalism which can be guaged by the address of the common man with "i am your slave, master" was found only in telangana.

To counter the power of telangana feudals, the communists and naxals dominated by coastal feudal elite. It was TDP, which is powered by coastal elite which removed the vestiges of hereditary systems in telangana. PV Narasimha Rao, from telangana tried it but failed because his laws effected the coastal elite as well.

You will note that the seperate telangana movements were always led by the feudals of telangana. The power of telangana feudals when they did not have ashraf backing was low compared to the coastal elite. This is because of the relative poverty of telangana compared to delta. So tdp which is dominated by delta elite, opposed seperation as it increased their bargaining power vis-a-vis center because of heft of telangana numbers.

Because of the same reason, TDP announced a backward caste chief minister for telangana but will never announce one for the seemandhra or while the state is united. and TRS which during the agitation announced a scheduled caste CM, when it needed the common telanganite support but after seperation backtracked.

There are wheels within wheels within wheels.

patel-patwari system and why brahmins are against tdp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patwari#Patwari
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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Suraj » 25 Apr 2014 23:05

ShyamSP and Virupaksha, thanks a lot for the information!

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby yvijay » 25 Apr 2014 23:14

I think this dora culture is no more after the land reforms and after naxalism. And Coastal elite helping remove the vestiges of hereditary systems in telangana, some rewrite of history. Even Romila Thapar cannot beat that I guess :roll: .

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Virupaksha » 25 Apr 2014 23:23

yvijay wrote:I think this dora culture is no more after the land reforms and after naxalism. And Coastal elite helping remove the vestiges of hereditary systems in telangana, some rewrite of history. Even Romila Thapar cannot beat that I guess :roll: .

sir,

note the leaders of naxals and communists from andhra pradesh. Where do you think they are from? They are kammas/brahmins from khammam and delta regions.

Oh! by the way, note that I didnt ever say that coastal elite was altruistic or even hinted at it. It is promotion of self interest from all sides and every one will take whatever route is available for it.
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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ShyamSP » 25 Apr 2014 23:24

yvijay wrote:I think this dora culture is no more after the land reforms and after naxalism. And Coastal elite helping remove the vestiges of hereditary systems in telangana, some rewrite of history. Even Romila Thapar cannot beat that I guess :roll: .


Dora culture is not just about lands but mental state to put rules on subjects. Yes. you will not have old Dora system. If not "1000s of acres" Doras, you can have "100s of acres and a few industries" Doras in both rural and urban areas.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby KLNMurthy » 25 Apr 2014 23:42

a_bharat wrote:Special court orders CBI probe into KCR’s assets
Hyderabad: Less than a week before Telangana votes, a special CBI court in Hyderabad has directed the CBI to probe Telangana Rashtra Samithi (TRS) chief K Chandrashekhar Rao's assets. Based on a private complaint lodged by a resident of Hyderabad Y Balaji Vadera, the special court has ordered the inquiry under the Prevention of Corruption Act, 1988.

The inquiry has been ordered against K Chandrashekhar Rao, his nephew and MLA T Harish Rao and TRS MP Vijayashanthi, who is now Congress candidate from Medak Assembly seat.

In his petition the complainant said "Sri K Chandrasekhar Rao with a retinue of his personal relatives and other kith and kin formed TRS Party (Telangana Rashtra Samithi) and started amassing huge wealth, movable and immovable. Even though there were protests within the party and outside, the criticizing voices were muffled, by brute might and holding out physical threats. The acts of amassing cash and wealth in the form of immovable properties, farm houses, ships, and private seaports was a top secret in the inner circles, but fortunately, for the common good of the society and the state, the inner secretes (Palace secrets of Sri KCR) have been revealed by none other than his relation and important erstwhile party bigwig Sri M.Raghunandan Rao the 5th respondent herein."

"He seems to have been expelled from the TRS party and as such he mustered up courage to speak out in the open and exposing the true colours of Sri K Chandra Sekhar Rao. Recently Sri K Chandra Sekhar Rao suspended M Raghunandan Rao from the TRS Party. After suspension from the party Sri M Raghunandan Rao held a press meet on 15-5-2013 and levelled allegations against accused. The said M Raghunandan Rao claimed to be in possession of recorded proof in the form of CD's, to expose the corruption, nepotism and acts of blackmailing and extortion of cash for ransoms. The said Sri M Raghunandan Rao, went on record giving details of the quantity of money extortions, expensive cars, and valuable farm properties, challenged Sri K Chandra Sekhar Rao for an open debate in an open press meet. Some of the startling revelations have appeared both in the Local media and the news media and the electronic media," the petition said.

"It is submitted that several serious allegations of extortion of money by T Harishrao, MLA, Siddipet, nephew of Sri K Chandrasekhar Rao and Smt M Vijaya Shanthi, MP, Medak are also spoken to by Sri M Raghunandar Rao in a press meet and revealed some material evidence, and facts. Some of which are stated below."

KCR who is extensively campaigning across Telangana, has described it as a politically motivated case claims one of his supporters.


It's like clockwork--show the finger to la Maino and you'll get CBI finger-probe. First Vijayamma's suputruDu and now former Maino-bhakta KCR.

This is such a recurring pattern that MSM ignoring it is enough indictment of MSM.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vivek.rao » 26 Apr 2014 01:03

http://www.ndtv.com/elections/article/e ... odi-514077
Eggs thrown at Chiranjeevi after his comments on Narendra Modi

Machilipatnam, Andhra Pradesh: Some BJP supporters allegedly hurled eggs at union minister and Andhra Pradesh Congress election campaign committee chief K Chiranjeevi during a public meeting in Machilipatnam on Friday after his remarks against Narendra Modi calling him a "Hitler" and "tyrant", police said.

Chiranjeevi, who was addressing a rally at Koneru Centre, stopped his speech for some time after the incident.

However, the police managed to bring the situation under control and the minister continued his speech. The cops later nabbed two suspects.

During his speech earlier, Chiranjeevi said, "Modi is a tyrant. He is a Hitler. He had been deliberately sidelining a number of senior BJP leaders, including former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee and party veteran L K Advani."

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby member_28502 » 26 Apr 2014 03:09

DOnt under estimate the power of official language Urdu in Telengana for lac of progress. In circars that SA The reformation process much owed to the literature of Telugu reformists and literature easily read in local dialect telugu in print and transactions aslo helped the society to modernize along with agriculture due to deltas of Krishna and Godavari also the construction of barrages on Godavari river boat transportation all helped a vibrant economy.

In telengana the region consisted of Telugu, Kannada Marathi speaking populace (Raichur, Aurangabad Parbhani, Bidar Bellary Kurnool to name a few). What ever opposition to Nizam sarkar came from mostly from Communist ideology to over throw the bourgeous. Thanks to Acharya Vinoba Bhave, the largest peaceful transition of Land happened in Telengana, near Pochampalli in Nalgonda district. FYI and OT

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 26 Apr 2014 03:11

Can there be massive voter deletion in AP? There it would be all the easier to delete voters based on their last names!

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ramana » 26 Apr 2014 03:35

Bingo! See the pattern in Maha.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ramana » 26 Apr 2014 04:05

Also there are Velamas in Vizag area.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby gpati » 26 Apr 2014 05:56

Murali Mohan (TDP) has a slight edge as per Rajmundry YSRCP MP candidate's immediate relatives who are managing the campaign.

Vijayawada YSRCP MP candidate is a non-local which gives an edge to Nani (TDP)

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Muppalla » 26 Apr 2014 08:21

RajeshA wrote:Can there be massive voter deletion in AP? There it would be all the easier to delete voters based on their last names!


They can easily do it in AP as well.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby KLP Dubey » 26 Apr 2014 09:36

Muppalla wrote:
RajeshA wrote:Can there be massive voter deletion in AP? There it would be all the easier to delete voters based on their last names!


They can easily do it in AP as well.


Except you never know if the dude you are deleting is a crypto-Crosser....

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Virupaksha » 26 Apr 2014 11:07

KLP Dubey wrote:
Except you never know if the dude you are deleting is a crypto-Crosser....

Those lists can be available if one knows where to ask

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 26 Apr 2014 19:15

you can expect the same to the done in AP as well

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Sonugn » 26 Apr 2014 21:00

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Do not know how reliable, but survey for Telengana

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RamaY » 26 Apr 2014 21:03

Sonugn wrote:Image
Do not know how reliable, but survey for Telengana


The real fun starts when TRS & Congress join hands to rule Telangana.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Virupaksha » 26 Apr 2014 21:11

instead of that
trs - 50-55
inc - 40-45
tdp - 15-20
mim - 7-12

is much much more realistic.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby KLP Dubey » 26 Apr 2014 21:49

Virupaksha wrote:
KLP Dubey wrote:
Except you never know if the dude you are deleting is a crypto-Crosser....

Those lists can be available if one knows where to ask


It just seems like this would require a massive amount of coordination and effort to make a dent in the overall result. It might be possible to do in a few local areas.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Virupaksha » 26 Apr 2014 21:55

KLP Dubey wrote:It just seems like this would require a massive amount of coordination and effort to make a dent in the overall result. It might be possible to do in a few local areas.

nobody does all seats, it is the 50-50 seats which are usually done

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 26 Apr 2014 22:12

RamaY wrote:
Sonugn wrote:Image
Do not know how reliable, but survey for Telengana


The real fun starts when TRS & Congress join hands to rule Telangana.


This is not at all likely. I would like to see their data. TDP is called Telangana Drohi Party in many places, and CSDS estimated that it had 13% support. Also, expect T-folks to gang up on TDP to defeat it wherever they can. Expect them to vote whoever is best poised to defeat the TDP. On its own, TDP can win only in Hyderabad, Rangareddi and Khammam. BJP exists only in Greater Hyderabad and a couple of neighbouring districts like Karimnagar and Mahabubnagar. BJP was estimated by CSDS to have 10% vote, but a considerable part of that vote is the hardcore Telangana folk vote, particularly outside Hyderabad and Rangareddi districts, so BJP is most unlikely to be able to transfer its voteshare outside Greater Hyderabad region. if BJP+TDP hits 20% of the vote totally, consider that great performance by the two. The likelihood that BJP and TDP can together take 55 seats is very remote. I expect them together to get ~20-25 seats. That is the best they can expect, IMO.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby ramana » 26 Apr 2014 22:23

Nageshks, Despite all that there is strong sentiment as expressed by devesh's grandmother who do not want return of slavery as represented by KCR and his ilk.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Virupaksha » 26 Apr 2014 22:29

ramana wrote:Nageshks, Despite all that there is strong sentiment as expressed by devesh's grandmother who do not want return of slavery as represented by KCR and his ilk.

1) that memory is fading. That his grandmother, not even his parents are expressing these sentiments is in itself a strong hint.
2) There is a strong feeling that trs should be voted atleast once.
3) The alternative pole in telangana to trs is congress not tdp.

Whether we like it or not, congress has the support of sc's and that wouldnt have broken up with trs backtracking. TDP has taken the bets that in order to survive, they would have to go the overt casteist way and work towards BC polarization.

But clubbing BCs and OBCs into one group is a myth and a social experiment has just taken roots. Anyway without the support of local elite, split between congress and trs, transferring funds from seemandhra to telangana is not going to happen atleast this round. This round the fight in seemandhra between tdp and ysrcp is itself a big fight for survival of tdp and my readings indicate tdp would be on the losing side but only just. Priority for tdp remains seemandhra and that is where any of their excess funding will go.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Shanmukh » 26 Apr 2014 22:49

Virupaksha wrote:
ramana wrote:Nageshks, Despite all that there is strong sentiment as expressed by devesh's grandmother who do not want return of slavery as represented by KCR and his ilk.

1) that memory is fading. That his grandmother, not even his parents are expressing these sentiments is in itself a strong hint.
2) There is a strong feeling that trs should be voted atleast once.
3) The alternative pole in telangana to trs is congress not tdp.


There was a Reddy elite in Telangana too that was with YCP. Any idea where they will go/have already gone during this polls? What is their game now?

Whether we like it or not, congress has the support of sc's and that wouldnt have broken up with trs backtracking. TDP has taken the bets that in order to survive, they would have to go the overt casteist way and work towards BC polarization.


TDP, IMO, is simply overlooking just how much T-activists (and they are there all over Telangana) will work to defeat it. The whole purpose of the split was freedom from the Kosta elite, from the view of the T-activists. IMHO, unless TDP lets go of T-TDP as a separate unit, and does not try to consider any potential T-TDP CM as a vassal CM, T-activists will work overtime to defeat TDP. And I see no hints that CBN is even thinking of treating the potential CM of T as his equal.

But clubbing BCs and OBCs into one group is a myth and a social experiment has just taken roots. Anyway without the support of local elite, split between congress and trs, transferring funds from seemandhra to telangana is not going to happen atleast this round. This round the fight in seemandhra between tdp and ysrcp is itself a big fight for survival of tdp and my readings indicate tdp would be on the losing side but only just. Priority for tdp remains seemandhra and that is where any of their excess funding will go.


+1. I have no idea if TDP is on the winning side or the losing side (well, in Rayalseema, where I had the occasion to observe personally, TDP has not the ghost of a chance of winning anything except in Hindupur. All the others, certainly Nellore, Tirupathi, Cuddapah, and Chittor are gone for the TDP-BJP alliance). But if CBN loses in SA, it is curtains for CBN's political career at least. No one will consider a three time losing leader as potential CM candidate for 19 seriously. Very likely, TDP will begin fracturing, if that happens, as CBN tries to cling to his leadership, and others begin breaking away from him.

OTOH, if Jagan loses, it is curtains for his party. I, honestly, don't think either Vijayamma or Sharmila have the ability to lead his party to victory, particularly if an NDA government goes after his assets (freezes them or attaches them). This is what I am hoping for, but, like Virupaksha-ji, I have no idea who is going to come up winner this term.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RamaY » 26 Apr 2014 23:44

Nageshks garu

I didn't say TDP/BJP gets lot of seats. I just said it will be a hung assembly and coalition govt.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Vamsee » 27 Apr 2014 02:24

One thing I wanted to mention long back. A very large number of Telugu people I have interacted with *never* considered YSR or his family as Christians.
They are simply "Reddy's" for them. This is despite knowing very well that they are Christians.
There seems to be some kind of blind spot in the minds of majority of Telugu people.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Muppalla » 27 Apr 2014 08:07

ramana wrote:Nageshks, Despite all that there is strong sentiment as expressed by devesh's grandmother who do not want return of slavery as represented by KCR and his ilk.


In spite of all that, even half-Andhra and half-T families are voting for TRS. There is a strong feeling that TRS should be given a chance and I kind of don't disagree with that feeling as state got split. If it was a united state, I would have thought differently.

TDP+BJP could get 35 and MIM can get about 5 seats. If INC and TRS also get 40 each then there will be lot of fun. It is not an easy prediction and most of the seats are very close. It is expected to have a close contest. In Parl, TDP+BJP could get 6 to 7 out of 17.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby gpati » 27 Apr 2014 08:19

Muppalla garu, what are your estimates or coastal AP and rayala seema?

RK of Andhrajyothy is saying TDP and YSRCP are in a neck to neck fight. TDP is stronger in cities and while YSRCP in rural areas. Winner may get only 100-110 seats. Modi visit may tilt it in TDP's favour.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Muppalla » 27 Apr 2014 08:28

gpati wrote:Muppalla garu, what are your estimates or coastal AP and rayala seema?

RK of Andhrajyothy is saying TDP and YSRCP are in a neck to neck fight. TDP is stronger in cities and while YSRCP in rural areas. Winner may get only 100-110 seats. Modi visit may tilt it in TDP's favour.


Based on internal surveys, it is 93 sure shot for TDP and there are 15 swing. 5 seats to BJP. Rest goes to YSRC.

Here is a view from @ScorpiusMaximus

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby devesh » 27 Apr 2014 09:19

I would put TDP at 90 seats, in the BEST case scenario in SA. anything beyond would be a miracle. 105 is impossible to achieve.

INC is not that dead as people here are expecting. they might still get 25-30 seats in SA. YSRCP might bag 60-70 seats. TDP might be biggest.

fun will begin if Jagan refuses to form coalition with INC, thereby forcing President's rule and another Vidhan Sabha elections within 3 months.

but take my prediction with a pinch of salt. I have not strong statistical confidence in it. it's purely anecdotal-based prediction.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby a_bharat » 27 Apr 2014 09:21

TDP is promising too many freebies and this makes it difficult for people like myself vote for it. As there are no decent alternatives, I might just stay home on voting day.

- loan waivers for farmers (upto Rs 2 lakh); assuming 4 votes per family, it is like paying Rs. 50K of tax payers' money per vote
- dwacra loan waivers
- Ipads for college students :(
- Rs 2000 per month for each unemployed person

Edit: one more thing:
- payment of upto Rs. 2.5 lakhs for treatment in corporate (private) hospitals
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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby krishnan » 27 Apr 2014 09:22

and put AP in backrupcy

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 27 Apr 2014 11:25

Best case scenario is if TDP does not have an outright majority in Seemandhra, but just misses it. What I want is for BJP to have a few MLAs of its own, and perhaps a few they can take over from Congress, and then ensure that CBN doesn't start showering the Church there with goodies.

Padre Shop needs to be closed as soon as possible, and I don't think CBN would do it otherwise.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby RajeshA » 27 Apr 2014 11:31

maitas66 ‏@chinmaykrvd 2h
Vizag unexpectedly looking close.According to internal report BJP and Vijayamma leading in 3 segments each.I expected YCP to have cakewalk

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby chaanakya » 27 Apr 2014 11:35

a_bharat wrote:TDP is promising too many freebies and this makes it difficult for people like myself vote for it. As there are no decent alternatives, I might just stay home on voting day.

- loan waivers for farmers (upto Rs 2 lakh); assuming 4 votes per family, it is like paying Rs. 50K of tax payers' money per vote
- dwacra loan waivers
- Ipads for college students :(
- Rs 2000 per month for each unemployed person

Edit: one more thing:
- payment of upto Rs. 2.5 lakhs for treatment in corporate (private) hospitals

I see nothing wrong in it.
Farmers are suffering and they can not repay the principal leave alone interest. Any development scheme will take time as AP is in mess right now. We can't afford to loose any more farmers' lives.
DWACRA loans are not going to come back. Waiver would clean up banks balancesheet and enable them to carry on .

IPAD is nothing.
When unemplyment is high , giving 2000 is not much.
Health care cost is skyrocketing. If he is giving some to poor people to take care of their health nothing better. This is in absence of universal health insurance and pathetic condition of Govt hospitals. It would take time to set right all this. So some safety nets.

One can criticise on many grounds, but 10 years of UPA has made Poorer of Indians beggar without any fall back upon safety nets. Needed.


Please go and vote as per your conscience.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vivek.rao » 27 Apr 2014 18:09

In Telangana, Cong star campaigners cut a sorry figure

Elsewhere in the same Nalgonda district, YSR Congress president YS Jaganmohan Reddy addressed a massive rally, which shone in contrast, the same day with people cheering him lustily even when he expressed views against the bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh.

A day before, on Friday, Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi addressed two public meetings in Telangana, including one in Hyderabad. It must have been embarrassing for him to watch people walking out of one of the venues in big numbers while he was speaking.


Beginning with Sonia Gandhi, none of the national Congress leaders are able to strike a sentimental chord with the people of Telangana. The rant that the Congress was singularly responsible for the creation of a separate Telangana is somehow not cutting much ice with the electorate.

Every Congress leader worth his salt is grappling in his respective constituency, with none having a pan-Telangana stature to establish a connect with the people. So much haggard are the Congress leaders descending on the about-to-be created state that their foibles are impaled by crowds that tend to leave the venues in hordes, even as the top leaders are making their best effort to impress their audience.


How did ITALIANMAFIA go so wrong in their assessment? Is it KCR Or Dogvijay or Gulam Nabi Azad?

Were they misled by US? Given ultimatum?

Union Minister Jairam Ramesh, who has nothing to lose while front-ending the Congress campaign, came up with the idea of eliminating the contenders for the coveted position of the chief minister in Telangana by limiting the scope to Dalit leaders alone.


Rahul Gandhi in his latest public meeting further narrowed down the scope saying that it was his dream to see a female chief minister inadvertently giving an opportunity for the media to speculate on who could be his choice for the position


But now, with the scope getting diminished to find a Dalit woman, other senior leaders have loosened the grip over their determination to get the party to power. At least, they will not shoulder the onus of achieving this Herculean task.

The chief ministerial aspirants like D Srinivas, K Jana Reddy, S Jaipal Reddy, Ponnala Lakshmaiah have all been feeling relegated now. Telangana PCC chief Ponnala’s unqualified valour in fighting TRS president KCR is now at a loss to understand why should he engage himself in a war of words whose denouement means nothing for him.


Rahul Gandhi’s effort to invoke emotion by saying that he wanted to adorn his wrist with a ‘Made in Telangana’ watch became butt of derision among people and the quirky observation was crucified on social media.

People immediately began talking about the closure of HMT public sector major Hindustan Machine Tools) and Allwyn (a State-level Public Enterprise) which used to make beautiful wrist watches. Who is to blame for this?
Largely, the policies of the Congress were responsible for these units bringing down shutters to their once-roaring and prestigious businesses. Also, people began to question if Nano car has an inscription of Made in Gujarat or a Volkswagen is labeled as Made in Maharashtra? All products made in the country have a ‘Made in India’ brand.

Rahul Gandhi’s ‘Made in Telanagana’ remark hasn’t gone down well with any section, including the sycophants of the Gandhi family. Public meetings of national Congress leaders have done more harm than good to the party in Telangana, even as the campaign is coming to a close on Monday evening.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby vivek.rao » 27 Apr 2014 18:13

a_bharat wrote:TDP is promising too many freebies and this makes it difficult for people like myself vote for it. As there are no decent alternatives, I might just stay home on voting day.

- loan waivers for farmers (upto Rs 2 lakh); assuming 4 votes per family, it is like paying Rs. 50K of tax payers' money per vote
- dwacra loan waivers
- Ipads for college students :(
- Rs 2000 per month for each unemployed person

Edit: one more thing:
- payment of upto Rs. 2.5 lakhs for treatment in corporate (private) hospitals


Please! Understand Naidu's compulsions. He will be history if he does not come this time.

No excuse for this freebie promises. No on will vote for them.

He has been the first person to introduce Good Governance. He will come to his senses.

Please do this for India. TDP/BJP will reduce marginal players like Jagan/KCR blackmailing Modi.

Do this time for India. Naidu/Modi combination can good for AP/India.

Whatever reservations you have, please keep them aside. Don't let some objections to lead to a default UPA/SONIA led MAFIA Govt.

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Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Postby Muppalla » 27 Apr 2014 18:34

In Telangana it is advantage TRS and that is no doubt. However, the state is very diverse in terms who live there and that diversity is the reason for the elections to be a close contest. TRS is not having it easy. The T-Sentiment vote is definitely divided between Congress and TRS. The guaranteed loser Jagan is splitting few votes of Congress party at all key places where congress is strong. The Seemandhra population living in Telangana has become a voter block on the lines of "2009's Bihari+UPites of Mumbai". They are for all practical purposes will vote for TDP+BJP. The Modi wave is making every non-Telugu voter to vote for TDP+BJP. All the BC organization have endorsed TDP just yesterday. But even a 20% of OBC votes to TDP makes this election going to wire. But there is a strong feeling that KCR should be give a chance to prove himself and this will give him edge. However, the Parl seats will go evenly between BJP+TDP, INC, TRS. This is the reason for late attack by TRS to not vote for "Andhra parties".


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