Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Apr 2014 03:58

Ditto! Note his perceptive comments on Aryan Dravidian issue as well. A man very ahead of his times!!

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 29 Apr 2014 04:06

^^^ complete agree

Some of what he talked about I started to realize (maybe 10% of what he knew back in the day), which makes him a great man.

Consider this: Without the unprecedented access to parallel media that we have today (twitter, BRF, internet etc), there is no way I would have come to even 10% of self-awareness that Vivekananda had. Back in the day, without this kind of access only a very learned and very wise man could have figured out the real challenges that Indians should face in order to attain true freedom from colonialism.

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 29 Apr 2014 04:12

LokeshC wrote:^^^ complete agree

Some of what he talked about I started to realize (maybe 10% of what he knew back in the day), which makes him a great man.

Consider this: Without the unprecedented access to parallel media that we have today (twitter, BRF, internet etc), there is no way I would have come to even 10% of self-awareness that Vivekananda had. Back in the day, without this kind of access only a very learned and very wise man could have figured out the real challenges that Indians should face in order to attain true freedom from colonialism.

On the other hand, fewer distractions as well and a limited corpus of information, ideas to get the hang of, writers and thinkers to assimilate. So there are advantages too. The days of people who know a field are well and truly over (even within a broad area of science or tech). But in those days it was barely possible. We have very good thinkers nowadays but they tend to be specialized. Hard to find people that integrate across disciplines in a credible manner.

In the pre-internet days, people had to be more picky on what they would browse and focus on. In some sense, the learning could be deeper, less imitative, more creative. What the current setup really offers that they didn't have is a collaborative platform and that is still in its infancy (except for things like open source movement, wikipedia, and BR itself).

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 29 Apr 2014 05:01

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KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 29 Apr 2014 06:35

pankajs wrote:I think the fellows who are making the most noise like Chidu and Zero have real cause to worry. They are desperate.

Kapil 'Kasai' Sibal has already lost his Lok Sabha seat in the recent DL polls. Chorambaram did not even contest. Khurshit seems to be on the wrong end of the stick this time.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 29 Apr 2014 06:40

well written, but I don't agree with conclusions:

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/a- ... epage=true
A roadshow to remember

Narendra Modi was enacting a symbolic crusade in Varanasi, remapping history as he retraced the landmarks of a city. In mapping space, he was reclaiming history, the rejected or slighted history of a nation
Politics is often a symbolic domain, where the grammar of a world and its historic logic are played out for a nation to watch. On April 24, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi filed his nomination from Varanasi. The roadshow that preceded it had all the power of a staged ritual. It was as powerful as a Republic Day tableau but it reached deeper into the subconscious. In his march to power, Mr. Modi was rewriting history, outlining the India of his imagination. As a semiotic act, it was perfectly executed.

A day earlier, the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) convener, Arvind Kejriwal, Mr. Modi’s great challenger, had filed his nomination and experts were stunned by the crowds he drew. The procession was huge, the crowds enthusiastic and curious. There was an improvisional edge to Mr. Kejriwal’s struggle, a relaxed ease. This was no march of history, but an impromptu walk, full of delight and surprise. Politics becomes conversational, as power walks amiably through the neighbourhood of a great city. Mr. Kejriwal makes politics impromptu, accessible and inviting like conversation at a paan shop or a dhaba.

Symbolic political triangle

The Kejriwal style can be contrasted with the Congress’ approach to politics. There is a loose tokenism about the Congress with the Gandhis confusing family and nation. The mistakes became more blatant with Priyanka Gandhi-Vadra. Her entry was supposed to ease the electoral pressure on the Congress. Her style was reminiscent of Indira Gandhi, her poise created a tremor of confidence for the Congress. In actual fact, Priyanka sounded like a housewife complaining about her in-laws, about how her husband was attacked. Her promissory note, like Rahul Gandhi’s, was dated, having been encashed decades earlier. This was about her family’s services to the India now presented as a bill to the nation. The Gandhis had become anachronistic. They spoke the contented language of entitlements rather than the rhetoric of responsibility. With Priyanka, history repeats itself twice, a second time with the full costumed idiocy of a farce.

Narendra Modi’s is the third part of this symbolic triangle. The nomination had to be a memorable ritual, more evocative of a yajna in the old sense of the term; a statement of power which had to be a discourse on history. This is precisely what the BJP’s Amit Shah and his team choreographed to precision.

Great moments of drama often begin with a sideshow of a farce. Arvind Kejriwal struck the false note accusing Mr. Modi of helicopter politics, of swooping down to spend time with the people. It was not the right countermove for this moment of battle. It was clear that Mr. Modi was enacting a symbolic crusade, remapping history as he retraced the landmarks of a city. In mapping space, he was reclaiming history, the rejected or slighted history of a nation.

A new solidarity

The roadshow, as it was modestly dubbed by TV, was to begin at Banaras Hindu University (BHU). The choice was apt. BHU was the legendary national university set up by Madan Mohan Malaviya. Malaviya, ignored today, was one of the classic characters of the national movement, the arch interrogator among the Indians during the great drama of the Indian Industrial Commission. Malaviya was Hindu, a modernist, a nationalist who sought to blend Hindu society and modernity. In garlanding Malaviya, Mr. Modi was garlanding a Hindu vision of modernity, often ignored in a search for abstract secularism. In honouring Malaviya, Mr. Modi was recovering a different sense of modernity, different from the Nehruvian state. In his march to power, Mr. Modi was tracing a different historical lineage.

From Malaviya to Patel, as the next statue, was immaculate strategy. Both were great Congressmen and Mr. Modi had swiftly, subtly appropriated both for the BJP, almost hinting that the best possibilities of the Great Indian Congress lay through the BJP. It was both a salute to the nation and a summoning of castes. As Malaviya’s statue stood stiff and formal, we watch an animated Modi. He bows from the waist to a city and a nation. There is humility to the act and grace to the elasticity as his supporters remark, it is Kashi after all.

From Patel’s statue, the cavalcade moves to Vivekananda, Mr. Modi’s exemplar, a man who provided Hinduism with a whiff of modernity, who added to its religious monasticism, a touch of this worldly asceticism. The pracharak is only a secular variant of the monk armed with culture to march into modernity with a different language of service rather than the egotism of individualistic self. The spectator realises that a new organicity is being created, an organic nation state signalling a new solidarity.

I had switched off the sound on the TV and watched the procession as if it were a silent movie. One was reminded of another movement in his political autobiography. It was his body language during the Sambhavna Yatra which was stiff and unyielding. If Mr. Modi had bowed and apologised with similar gravitas, the nation would have been different today.

The crowd was swelling. A procession had become a surge. A sea of saffron was a trite metaphor. It was more like a gigantic river carrying the flotsam of life and history. Even BJP organisers sensed the unbelievable and the unprecedented. This roadshow was the true juggernaut to office as Mr. Modi moved to garland Ambedkar signalling that the BJP was not just the old casteist Hinduism but a theory of inclusion and justice, a coalition of Brahmins, Dalits and OBCs clamouring for a new nation state.

Suddenly one sees Amit Shah, Mr. Modi’s main organiser on the vehicle. It creates a pause as one realises the staged power of this ritual. One senses Mr. Shah, the propagandist, digging deep into the emotional core of the crowd. The next move becomes obvious. As the crowd reaches the barricade, one senses only the four proposers of Mr. Modi can enter with him. His nomination was to be filed by a boatman, a weaver, a singer and a judge. It was a judicious mix of the vocations of the city invoking the childhood ditty of tinker, tailor, soldier, spy. The boatman evoked the Ganges as an inseparable part of Varanasi. The weaver, possibly Muslim, heralded the great crafts of the city. The singer invoked the great gharanas of Benaras and the judge, in this case a grandson of Malaviya, the new occupations. It was a perfect quartet of nominees, combining the city and uniting it to the history of the nation. Benaras as a microcosm and India as a macrocosm were being juxtaposed in this moment of history we call the roadshow. Development and diversity had found a new axis in Mr. Modi. The presentation is so compelling that alternative readings or dissent are/is impossible. It is a closed world of symbols, politically coded to perfection.

Lost opportunity for Congress

The crowd strikes awe and silence in one. The only distraction which splits the TV frame is Mr. Kejriwal. He improvises an alternative spectacle, though a modest one. He starts a dharna at Assi Ghat with his supporters, objecting to the manhandling of AAP’s Somnath Bharti. It is a footnote but serves both as a distraction and a warning that what one is watching is a spectacle, although a powerful one. It makes one reflect on tactics, possibilities and alternative histories. It makes one ask what if the Congress had emerged from its political autism and challenged Mr. Modi not with a Bhumihar MLA but with Priyanka Gandhi-Vadra.

Many experts feel it would have galvanised the Congress, injected adrenalin into Congress cadres. Even Priyanka, instead of playing the tame agent, would have become a new protagonist, an agency in her own right rather than a background editorial, an addendum to politics. A self-inflicted silliness might have yielded to an inventive politics. An opportunity was lost to make history, to give the Congress a sense of a different future. While Mr. Modi grabbed the symbolism of Benaras, the Congress retreated into an embalmed sense of itself. Democracy lost out because Benaras might have been the signal of a Congress returning to battle than of a Modi rolling his way to Lutyens’ Delhi. The tragedy lies in the ifs and buts of politics and history.

(Shiv Visvanathan is a professor at Jindal School of Government and Public Policy.)

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 29 Apr 2014 06:47

Rahul M wrote:some of them are like the Vivekananda Kendra Vidyalay, which run dozens of high quality schools in far flung corners of India.

One such person I know and is very very close to my boss spent all her life in that org and she works in Arunachal Pradesh in a school. These volunteers live very humbly (my contact can afford great comfort in India or US) with no pretensions. Very unlike the dog and pony show that is AAP or the attention grabbing folks of ms. Susanna Roy ilk.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 29 Apr 2014 06:59

TOI reporting, fire in PMO, 6 fire tenders rushed.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 29 Apr 2014 07:11

VikasRaina wrote:So to claim that Patel had no role to play and Nehru could override him almost on everything may not be the true picture. Atleast Ambedkar was consistent in his opposition to such non-sensical demands from Kashmiri Muslims.

Please read Arun Shourie's book to know why this happened and how hostile the entire Cong and Patel was to Nehru's idea of Article 370. All I can say is that Patel was too respectful of Gandhi and Nehru to the detriment of India and often suppressed his own better judgement to let them have their way so as not to appear vindictive. In retrospect, this harmed India and he should have stood firm. He was a lion who deferred to two asses wearing the crown, much to India's misfortune.

Abdullah was a two-bit paper tiger, a Jinnah wannabe in Kashmir. Later, Nehru had no problem in getting his government dismissed and jailing him. What prevented him from doing the same earlier? He was grovelling before him for no reason except his Muslim fetish while hounding the Maharaja just because he was a Hindu.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 29 Apr 2014 07:24

Pratyush wrote:TOI reporting, fire in PMO, 6 fire tenders rushed.

mmm what documents are they burning!
so, we can confirm it is going to be modi sarkar then!

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 29 Apr 2014 07:27

The activists and commons voters in India do care about KP, do care about Indians in Asam, West Bengal against invasion of Bangladeshi infiltration etc. But activists and commons voters know of a few methods to solve the problem --- vote , dharana, slogan shouting etc. And all these ways are useless to solve these problems. And slogan shouting is joke. And Chandrashekhar Azad himself had warned in 1925, that voting alone without other necessary procedures will also become a joke. No matter which 545 people come in power, some 500+ will sell out to MNC-owners, Missionaries, Saudies etc within a few weeks for cash or other benefits which I cant spell in this PG-13 forum. Very few activists have information of other options. And so most activist and voters confine to voting and dharana, the problems remain unsolved and so finally they give up and watch like helpless bystanders.

eg to help KPs , to help Indians in Asam and other causes like RJBD etc , the activists and voters of India brought ABV into power twice in 1996 and 1998. But Ministers of ABV such as ABV himself, LKA, Pramod, Arun Jetley, Arun Shourie, Yashwant, Jashwant etc etc all started cutting deals, and nothing was done to send KPs back or stop Bangladeshi. And they all cooked up a bold excuse "this is NDA govt and not BJP govt". Today, the activists of those era are a demoralized lot.

So its NOT that activists and voters dont care. But they keep following useless ways to help

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Rahul M: some of them are like the Vivekananda Kendra Vidyalay, which run dozens of high quality schools in far flung corners of India.

matrimc: One such person I know and is very very close to my boss spent all her life in that org and she works in Arunachal Pradesh in a school. These volunteers live very humbly (my contact can afford great comfort in India or US) with no pretensions. Very unlike the dog and pony show that is AAP or the attention grabbing folks of ms. Susanna Roy ilk.

well, these gentlemen may have worked well in their schools\hospitals, but they never did anything to fix law-drafts needed to fix Govt schools and Govt hospitals. And if RSS-outfits have 1000 such individuals who work well in their schools, the Missionaries have 100,000 such individuals. The Missionaries are also running 100s of schools and hospitals in far flung areas, where people dont have electricity connection !! So if these gents want to work well in their schools\hospitals, and show no interest in fixing law-drafts needed to fix Govt schools\hospitals, then on the education\health front, Missionaries are all set to win.

Now one can say that 'lets increase the funds these gentlemen have and make it 100 times what they have now". But as scale increases, the rot comes in and rot becomes far more than Missionary schools. We saw that in BJP. When Jansangh = BJP was small, it was clean. And as it grew , it became more and more dirty. The Missionaries have basic administrative structure in place, which reduces the rot from expanding even when scale increases. Thats because Vatican pope isnt appointed by few persons, but elected by 300 cardinals. And in protestents, the Church isnt private property , but comes under elders and criminals actions are dealt by Jurors. All this will be OT and is give in http://tinyurl.com/RahulMehta58 .

To say in short ---- there is no legal structure in India as of now which can keep rot low even when a group expands and gets more and more assets. So all small good organization rot when they grow big, and rot becomes more than Western organizations. Till we activists (NOT LEADERS) create this legal structures, each organization we have will remain ineffective due to small size, or remain ineffective due to rot, compared to Western organization in same area.

And this legal structure can be created ONLY by activists and NOT by leaders. The leader may come in the end, put his sign, to collect the credit, which perhaps only thing most tall leaders are good at. But tall leaders simply dont have strength to create such legal structure.

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SanjayC wrote:Please read Arun Shourie's book to know why this happened and how hostile the entire Cong and Patel was to Nehru's idea of Article 370. All I can say is that Patel was too respectful of Gandhi and Nehru to the detriment of India and often suppressed his own better judgement to let them have their way so as not to appear vindictive. In retrospect, this harmed India and he should have stood firm. He was a lion who deferred to two asses wearing the crown, much to India's misfortune.

Abdullah was a two-bit paper tiger, a Jinnah wannabe in Kashmir. Later, Nehru had no problem in getting his government dismissed and jailing him. What prevented him from doing the same earlier? He was grovelling before him for no reason except his Muslim fetish while hounding the Maharaja just because he was a Hindu.

Duratma Gandhi was merely obeying the British order to install Jawaharlal as PM. And Vallbhabhai had no courage to raise head against British. Respect is a useless word at that level.

Jawaharlal imprisoned Abdullah to make him a leader !! Just as British would imprison Duratma Gandhi so that he emerges as leader. When tall leaders want to plant other leaders as "opponets" they imprison him and do no harm. Otherwise, people go Shyamaprasad Mukherjee way or Bhagat Singh way.

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One of the biggest damage to Hinduvaadi causes has come from NaMo, existing BJP-apex and existing RSS-apex and not from Congress. Congress ensured that Hinduvaadi causes dont get implemented, but Congress could never convince anyone that Hibduvaad means "no material development", or that Hinduvaadi causes will kill development and create law-order problems. But NaMo , existing RSS-apex and existing BJP-apex etc has successfully pushed this myth down the throat of youth and others that "persuring Hinduvaadi causes will kill development , will create law-order problem etc and a Hinduvaadi is someone who wants to take country to stine age". During Congress days, Hinduvaadi was see as anti-Muslim. Today, Hinduvaadi is seen as reactionary and someone who is anti-industry !!! "Hinduvaad is anti-development" is now our new AIT.

vic · Post by **vic** » 29 Apr 2014 07:44

Nehru also fxxked up Nepal, Bhutan, Sikkim, lost some essential areas to Bangladesh & West Pakistan, messed up Tibet issue etc.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Apr 2014 08:28

todays MSM theme is how PG has claimed the congi centerstage. people are waxing with silken tongue about her fluent hindi, connect with masses, dress sense ....

it is likely SG will step aside as Cong Pres and install PG on popular demand a few months after the elections perhaps this winter.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Apr 2014 08:29

Pratyush wrote:TOI reporting, fire in PMO, 6 fire tenders rushed.

UPA must be losing to set fire to files in PMO.

Congress always does this.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 29 Apr 2014 08:32

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Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 29 Apr 2014 08:34

ramana wrote:
Pratyush wrote:TOI reporting, fire in PMO, 6 fire tenders rushed.
UPA must be losing to set fire to files in PMO.

Congress always does this.

That Yogendra yadav was saying aag lag jayegi. Modi Pm ban gaye kya?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Apr 2014 08:36

they can burn all the files, even burn the entire N and S block to the foundations , but I am sure for own protection certain people have made secure duplicates.
such people through inducement and threats will talk if a proper investigation is done.

the wrath of the Dharma must burn all evil from where they hide...starting top down.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Apr 2014 08:54

In olden days it was invaders who burnt the city. Under Congress they themselves burn files fearing the successor govt.

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 29 Apr 2014 08:56

Despite all the talk about no vindictiveness, I just don't see it happening. Once regime change happens, things can happen in a big hurry. The Congis are likely to be unpleasantly surprised by the degree of hate that is in store for them. There will be collateral damage. It cannot be business as usual. Maybe there will be chaos for a few months before things settle down. NaMo will have it difficult. Just like May 16 is awaited by us, once it arrives some other landmark will replace it (most likely, prosecution process). The writing is on the wall.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Apr 2014 09:19

Pratyush wrote:TOI reporting, fire in PMO, 6 fire tenders rushed.

This usually happens in the ISI office after a coup or in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. Key Bureaus like Pulok Chatterji must have made copies of files. Need to have a chat session with them later.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 29 Apr 2014 09:26

Singha wrote:they can burn all the files, even burn the entire N and S block to the foundations , but I am sure for own protection certain people have made secure duplicates.
such people through inducement and threats will talk if a proper investigation is done.

the wrath of the Dharma must burn all evil from where they hide...starting top down.

I will forgive the termite family if they set Delhi on fire, the whole of it for good. Delhi has seen much destruction to Native dharma. The karma must catchup in fire.

India desperately need to build a new capital.

Gurudev, see if you can burn the Kabila in your story.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 29 Apr 2014 09:38

they are fighting a modi forest fire with a pmo fire

btw, did anyone see manio ji stepping out before the smoke?

niran · Post by **niran** » 29 Apr 2014 09:54

not onree PMO is fire fighting yesterday Supreme Court had to fight fire.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 29 Apr 2014 10:05

they must have heard some jai bajrang bali vibrations.

the ravans have set hanuman's tail on fire now!

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 29 Apr 2014 10:21

Vacuum bulb has come to Delhi now? Expect a spate of spontaneous combustion in all ministries. Dilli fire brigade will not be able to keep up, guarantee.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 29 Apr 2014 10:40

Modi has no hawala connection with Fatta: ED

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/nare ... 58108.html

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 29 Apr 2014 10:43

thats a slap with a torn chappal

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 29 Apr 2014 11:14

^^ LOL
Paisa wasool comment - Slap with a torn chappal!

I am going to steal it.

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Earlier I thought after these elections, the focus would shift to gaining power in south India.

Now instead it looks like we are going to have to learn more and sooner about east India. If the results are encouraging in Bihar+Arunachal+Manipur etc. then its full focus on WB+Orrisa+Assam for the next round. Sooner than I thought.

Just as well, perhaps. We actually do need people working in these areas. Just thought south was an easier low lying fruit.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Apr 2014 11:52

Lok Sabha polls 2014: Sonia Gandhi's son-in-law Robert Vadra a liability for Congress

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 349338.cms

Vadra may have been something of a spectacle for the local residents but since last year, after facing allegations of wrongdoing in his land deals, he has turned into something of a political liability for the party. "Wo gale ka kanta ban gaye hain, jise na nigla ja sakta hai na ugla ja sakta hai (roughly meaning that the party can like it or lump it but do little about him)," a party member says. For the Congress, which is battling public anger over a spate of scams, Vadra has only served to keep the key issue against the party alive.

A Congress leader says: "Priyankaji has been aggressively responding to the charges, but on the ground it is the workers who have to defend him. We were already dealing with the fallout of the 2G and coalgate scams, and we were arguing that the charges were more hype than substance. But how do we explain to the people about Vadra?" Another party member says it is exceedingly difficult to counter BJP's charge that Vadra converted Rs 1 lakh into Rs 300 crore in very short time.

Note:
1. If Vadra is a liability Piggy too is a liability. Her selective intervention towards the fag end might impress a few but in a full fledged electoral battle she will not work. So the party can like it or lump it or Mr Vadra might take himself out of the equation.
2. "Priyankaji has been aggressively responding to the charges, but on the ground it is the workers who have to defend him." Now by this logic Baba RD's impact will be determined by his defense by BJP/RSS/BRD workers and not by the talking heads in the TV studios. Hope they have been proactive.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 29 Apr 2014 11:59

NaMo will lose onlee.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Apr 2014 11:59

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"Dynastic politics is pernicious...it retards democracy's ability to respond to its citizens needs" http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012 ... dynasties/ … #rahulgandhi

kumarn · Post by **kumarn** » 29 Apr 2014 12:26

Heard from a friend: In silvassa the local congress candidate is claiming vote for me because I have a better relationship with modi than the your bjp candidate! He is effectively campaigning in modi's name.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 29 Apr 2014 12:40

KJoishy wrote:[youtube]aZDYsSOngik#[/youtube]

These assorted Hunter-Gatherer German tribes have to know that we created democracy first and were practising it in spirit just as they were taking to agriculture completely in parts of North Western Asia aka Europe.

laugh they shall for now, one day the amount they spend on their elections will become tiny sums for us and remember then, we shall! Lest we forget!

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 29 Apr 2014 13:30

Jawaharlal imprisoned Abdullah to make him a leader !! Just as British would imprison Duratma Gandhi so that he emerges as leader.

That is an incorrect impression, we need to see that reason for his arrest comes out in open.

It is something similar to colonial legacy of, say, Valentine's day - which is celebrated for times when some marriage customs were banned in Europe somewhere and saint valentine aided some couples during those times. (Similar to Portuguese banning marriages of Hindus in Goa!)

In an Independent country, there is no ban on marriages nor any ban on democracy. Abdullah must have been arrested for something very serious and Nehru must have been a bit thick to let this create any wrong impression post independence.

shyamoo · Post by **shyamoo** » 29 Apr 2014 14:43

ramana wrote:In olden days it was invaders who burnt the city. Under Congress they themselves burn files fearing the successor govt.

Ramana Garu, it is no different today. Invaders are burning files this day and age too.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 29 Apr 2014 15:22

Saba Naqvi ‏@_sabanaqvi 37m
To all the people who worry about bangladeshi migrants, same attitude to nepalis? Or is it just muslims who worry them.

Rama: Nov29,12240BCE ‏@DharmicFundoo 3m
.@_sabanaqvi

Did Nepalis partition India & took their part based on diff of religion? Those who got their part, what r they doing in India?

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Apr 2014 15:24

RajeshA wrote:
Saba Naqvi ‏@_sabanaqvi 37m
To all the people who worry about bangladeshi migrants, same attitude to nepalis? Or is it just muslims who worry them.
Rama: Nov29,12240BCE ‏@DharmicFundoo 3m
.@_sabanaqvi

Did Nepalis partition India & took their part based on diff of religion? Those who got their part, what r they doing in India?

Nepali migrant are not in enough number to change demography or damage resources or change course of election
No one is raising them either as vote bank
Any country in the world today fears large scale immigration

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 29 Apr 2014 15:24

niran wrote:not onree PMO is fire fighting yesterday Supreme Court had to fight fire.

Everywhere the fires are up in the air. In AP's secretariat, the wing that is meant for confidential documentation was burnt.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 29 Apr 2014 15:27

One thing I hope, is that those Italian Marines are not let go before Modi takes over the govt. NaMo should arm-twist Europe to the MAXIMUM, make them sweat.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Apr 2014 15:30

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 083_1.html