Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

subhamoy.das · Post by **subhamoy.das** » 03 May 2014 16:49

Rahul M wrote:
subhamoy.das wrote:In Bengal there was wide scale rigging by TMC inline with what the CPM used to do. Heard from co-workers. Central forces kept in stand by mode in such a manner that EC did nothing or it did not register in EC rudder. Are we still on for 4-6 seats in Bengal?
not any longer. spoke to a mid level cpm karyakarta. he claims bjp was in fight for serampore, krishnanagar but won't make it due to rigging. huge rigging in last phase after tmc discovered they were facing uphill battle in ALL the seats that had gone to polls before that. TIFWIW.

claims EC special observer, rakesh something came to an understanding after much haggling. the price, 10 Cr.

Well that price could have been paid by BJP also who has much much larger war chest. So what stopped them from taking on TMC? May be at this time Bengal is not worth it for BJP, loss of 4 seats can be easily digested. Once they come to power, in next 5-10 years, they will make it happen in Bengal. I am hoping for that. I am hoping that they will turn the screw slowly but surely in the coming days for a better Bengal!

shyamoo · Post by **shyamoo** » 03 May 2014 16:53

johneeG wrote:
vnmshyam wrote:[Semi OT]
This thread is awesome for many reasons. Any one interested in psychology, should visit this forum.

BRF ( at least this thread ) is becoming an echo chamber. But there are differences.

The general mood can be gauged by the posts ( frequency, content and posters ). I have formed a picture in my mind of the nature, as in tendencies, of various posters.
1) Some of them are very conservative in life.
2) Some get easily discouraged.
3) Some jump to conclusions.
4) Some are stubborn.
5) Some are disingenious.
6) Some of them, quite often, pull a fast one and assume that they have fooled everyone.
7) Some of them genuine and passionate beliefs regardless of whether they are right or wrong.

Note: Some are a mix of all the above.
[/Semi OT]
Saar,
why don't you give an example(poster name) for each type that you have mentioned?

Saar, and earn the wrath of the bradmins? "Pappu lo kallu".

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 May 2014 16:58

has the anti BD violence in Assam been instigated deftly to cause a polarisation of mussalman votes in the adjcent area of WB, Bihar and East UP in the remaining two days?

and we have the court jester Omar abdullah blaming it on Namo "who went to assam and spread hate" lol.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 03 May 2014 17:19

Polarization doesn't work only one way.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 May 2014 17:23

This polarization is a myth a lie, a canard, a hoax being played. Even the Delhi HC has said deportation of illegal BDs is not a punishment. Telling them to pack their bags is just re-iterating what the HC judgement is. The biggest polarization that is occurring however is in the anti-Modi vote bank. That is what is hurting them. That is the real polarization. Even for Muslims if they want to invest in development and partake good governance, the best way to get out of the clutches of Islamists is to vote someone like Modi or a Togadia they will realize than a RaGa. Gogia or Sibal types.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 17:36

Alok Bhatt ‏@alok_bhatt 5h

So going rate for attending Ms Vadra's meeting is sabha Rs 200 per head, Maurya.. is the incharge under captain Sharma for this distribution

AndrewBuncombe ‏@AndrewBuncombe 5h

RG talking now, listing what he has done for Amethi. Crowd of approx 2-3,000 offer polite applause.

Alok Bhatt ‏@alok_bhatt 5h

So going rate for attending Ms Vadra's meeting is sabha Rs 200 per head, Maurya.. is the incharge under captain Sharma for this distribution

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 03 May 2014 17:47

Rahul M wrote:
subhamoy.das wrote:In Bengal there was wide scale rigging by TMC inline with what the CPM used to do. Heard from co-workers. Central forces kept in stand by mode in such a manner that EC did nothing or it did not register in EC rudder. Are we still on for 4-6 seats in Bengal?
not any longer. spoke to a mid level cpm karyakarta. he claims bjp was in fight for serampore, krishnanagar but won't make it due to rigging. huge rigging in last phase after tmc discovered they were facing uphill battle in ALL the seats that had gone to polls before that. TIFWIW.

claims EC special observer, rakesh something came to an understanding after much haggling. the price, 10 Cr.

WB was anyway not taken into consideration for NDA tally. But these (if won) 4-6 seats would have been of immense psychological value.

Krishnanagar is understood. Being a largely rural constituency and away from Kolkata. Can't say about serampore though. Has Bappi Lahiri complained? As in case of Hooghly Chandan Mitra has clearly done so.

Let's see how it goes for North Kolkata, Dum Dum and Barasat.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 17:55

dna ‏@dna 5h

Voters indifferent as UPA's flagship schemes ruin rural economy says @iftikhargilani http://dnai.in/cbUU

Kunāl Majumder ‏@kunalmajumder 5h

With less than two weeks left for the UPA government, 45 files vanish from Ministry of Environment and Forest http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-45 ... ef-1984518 …

Times of India ‏@timesofindia 5h

In #Amethi, the 'reel bahu' is making the 'real beti' sweat http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 559225.cms … @smritiirani #DanceOfDemocracy pic.twitter.com/c7y2ze8hmD

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 03 May 2014 18:27

fanne wrote:BJP min per them, when everything can go wrong is 204

This is massive NaMo wave. Even this is huge stability number for India and the nationalist forces can rock. Hope they don't do the mistakes of ABV by trying to be too fair to mafia and rajdharam bs.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 18:54

Raghunath AS ‏@asraghunath 2h

That Shankaracharya will visit Varanasi to campaign against Modi, was a handiwork of Cong Dirty Tricks Deptt. pic.twitter.com/OYaG92yjBD

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 May 2014 18:56

fanne wrote:posting the below piece for ITS PROSE. It has no data - guys enjoy .

Its unfair. Let them subscribe to 5foty3 to read Dr PP writing.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 19:00

Ajay Rai of CON the top spender in Varanasi followed by sAAP followed by BJP. So phata chappal has outspend BJP till date!

Raghunath AS ‏@asraghunath 2h

बनारस में कांग्रेसी अजय राय अब तक सबसे खर्चीले प्रत्याशी! pic.twitter.com/TE6e2epWp9

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 19:06

Laissez-faire ‏@FCBtheChamps May 2

The fascinating story of this election would be victory of weak BJP candidates who were chosen to help the opponent party.

Laissez-faire ‏@FCBtheChamps May 2

@MadusudhanR @jaishil24290 haryana is a classic case

Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant 4h

Amartya Sen says "PM didn't have political power to stop corruption" in UPA. He doesn't say who did http://www.hindustantimes.com/elections ... 15032.aspx …

Amit Malviya ‏@malviyamit 3h

@minhazmerchant If he says that, Chairmanship of Nalanda University would have gone!

Ashoke Pandit ‏@ashokepandit Apr 30

Amartya Sen asked his daughter Nandana Sen to not act in my film "Sheen" as it was based on the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits. Truly secular.

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 03 May 2014 19:22

chaanakya wrote:
fanne wrote:posting the below piece for ITS PROSE. It has no data - guys enjoy!!
Please DELETE
Its unfair. Let them subscribe to 5foty3 to read Dr PP writing.

Ditto.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 03 May 2014 19:42

maitas66 @chinmaykrvd · 26m

Congress MP Lagadapati Rajagopal survey projecting 242-255 seats for BJP at Center and says Modi led NDA getting clear majority.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 19:45

Workers grapple with low wages amid rising prices

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busi ... [quote]NEW DELHI: A decade of jobless growth, topped by the recent slump in manufacturing, has left India's work force dispirited and restive. The election campaign has generally not touched upon issues close to their hearts, especially wages. There has been much talk about price rise and jobs, but most workers, whether in the formal or informal sector, are not impressed.

"Kasme-vade, pyar-wafa, sab batein hain, baton ka kya!" says Magroo, who has worked in an auto-parts factory in North Delhi for over 25 years, quoting from a popular film song from the 1960s. "Promises, loyalty — all of it are empty talk."

Between 2005-06 and 2010-11, industrial worker wages increased by about 9%, according to the Annual Survey of Industries (ASI) published by the labour ministry. That works out to a measly 1.5% per year. Annual inflation has been raging for the past few years at an average of 5-6%. So, real wages have fallen. Small wonder, that workers consider wages and inflation as key issues — one puts money in their pockets, the other takes it out.[/quote]

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 03 May 2014 19:45

Massive rigging reported from WB in 3rd phase specially where BJP had a chance. Instead of going to the EC they should go to the courts. A lot of it is on camera.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 03 May 2014 20:00

Prashanth @PrashanthSai369 · 11h

Azhagiri predicts 25 seats for ADMK.And he is sure,DMK will get only 3 seats. Watch Azhagiri's interview in Thanthi TV today at 9:30 PM

For those who dont recognize, Azhagiri is son of Thatha Karunanidhi and was a central minister, but now expelled from DMK.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 03 May 2014 20:02

In previous election of 2004 and 2009, how many %age voting in WB, any figures? Asking google chacha too but to no avail till this post

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 03 May 2014 20:06

So will the exit polls start hitting the air waves on the 12th, after the last polling booth closes? Preparation for celebration can start after the 12th right?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 20:09

Murugan wrote:In previous election of 2004 and 2009, how many %age voting in WB, any figures? Asking google chacha too but to no avail till this post

http://www.indiavotes.com/pc/info?state=9&eid=15

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 20:11

SwamyG wrote:So will the exit polls start hitting the air waves on the 12th, after the last polling booth closes? Preparation for celebration can start after the 12th right?

Celebrate after 16th May wonlee ..

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 20:12

- The upper caste and the EBCs have been hit by TsuNaMo.
- TsuNaMo has split the Young Yadavs who now think 'only Saffron'

Raghunath AS ‏@asraghunath 5h

Lalu jittery in wife's constituency as Rudy goes tactical. pic.twitter.com/yGtlgrBQf4

member_28468 · Post by **member_28468** » 03 May 2014 20:15

I make my brother to leave some firecrackers for 16may on diwali.hoping to use them

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 03 May 2014 20:19

Muppalla wrote:
fanne wrote:BJP min per them, when everything can go wrong is 204
This is massive NaMo wave. Even this is huge stability number for India and the nationalist forces can rock. Hope they don't do the mistakes of ABV by trying to be too fair to mafia and rajdharam bs.

Regarding above concern, Dynasty's decision to appointing judge for snoopgate commisiion and subsequently Modi's decision to do rally in Amethi is good news. That is no deal between Modi and Chinese Gandhis. Listen to what he said in his interview to Krantikari channel. In the context of Vadra his words were "Agar mere upar koi karwai chal rahi ha to mere PM banane ke baad chalni chahiye kee nahin.PM banane ke baad bhee janch honee chahiye"

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 03 May 2014 20:22

Where's the krantikari interview? I could not find it on YouTube, Aaj tak or headlines today. Plissé to help.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 20:35

There was another interview too???

Samay News Channel ‏@samaynewschanel 5h

Watch Narendra Modi’s most candid interview on Samay at 7 PM.....

Giriraj Singh ‏@girirajsinghbjp 7h

Nitish was quick in removing my security but impotent in cracking down on terrorist of Patna and Bodh Gaya blast ,he loves terrorist

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 03 May 2014 20:41

Niran:

This is for you - please see if you can pass this information on the right people.

Just got a call from a very close family friend who is a landowner in village Pipri (google: 26.474305, 81.776028) in Amethi constituency. This is a "thakur-dominated" village (read: BJP support) with 6000-7000 voters. This village (and surrounding ones) are hard-hit by course changes of the Gomti river (loss of land, loss of road connectivity). Total government apathy, no action taken to stabilize the riverbanks in that area. Pappu is not interested.

According to my contact no BJP/RSS folks have showed up to listen to the villagers. Only Kumar Vishwas sent his father to campaign there. Even though anti-Pappu sentiment is high, at this point the entire village is planning to boycott the election altogether. It's late in the campaign but according to him it would still make a big difference to send some folks to the villages in this area and get people to vote. If more details/contact info needed, let me know.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 03 May 2014 20:48

Mullayam says it was necessary to fire at Hindus to win muslims trust
http://t.co/kmsG4mgHdF

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 20:50

Deepak Singh ‏@smarket 4h

The message of Modi's development has trickled down to masses. The moment there is power cut in UP, Bihar: people start talking of Modi

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 03 May 2014 20:50

Ashok Sarraff wrote:Where's the krantikari interview? I could not find it on YouTube, Aaj tak or headlines today. Plissé to help.

It was ongoing when the posts were done at BR. patience dear, will be available in 1 hr

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 03 May 2014 20:55

Thanks Saar ji.

arminius · Post by **arminius** » 03 May 2014 20:55

SwamyG wrote:So will the exit polls start hitting the air waves on the 12th, after the last polling booth closes? Preparation for celebration can start after the 12th right?

I would hold the horses till 16th evening. Let the fat lady sing.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 03 May 2014 21:11

KLP Dubey wrote:Niran:

This is for you - please see if you can pass this information on the right people.

Just got a call from a very close family friend who is a landowner in village Pipri (google: 26.474305, 81.776028) in Amethi constituency. This is a "thakur-dominated" village (read: BJP support) with 6000-7000 voters. This village (and surrounding ones) are hard-hit by course changes of the Gomti river (loss of land, loss of road connectivity). Total government apathy, no action taken to stabilize the riverbanks in that area. Pappu is not interested.

According to my contact no BJP/RSS folks have showed up to listen to the villagers. Only Kumar Vishwas sent his father to campaign there. Even though anti-Pappu sentiment is high, at this point the entire village is planning to boycott the election altogether. It's late in the campaign but according to him it would still make a big difference to send some folks to the villages in this area and get people to vote. If more details/contact info needed, let me know.

Lets tweet this info to Modi,AmitShah and Smritiji

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 May 2014 21:20

Tenures of Current Election Commissioners

V S Sampath :
DOB: 16th Jan 1950
DOA: 11th June 2012 as CEC
DOR: 16th Jan 2015
Native: Vellore TamilNadu
Service: IAS
Cadre : Andhra Pradesh
Batch:1973
Last Post In GOI: Secretary Energy and Power
Significant Postings:
Election Commissioner:21 April 2009 to 10 June 2012

Harishankar Brahma
DOB:19 April 1950
DOA:25 August 2010 as Election Commissioner
DOR: 18th April 2015
Native:Assam
Service:IAS
Cadre:Andhra Pradesh
Batch:1975
Last Post in GOI:Secretary, Ministry of Power, Government of India
Significant Postings:
He would be appointed as Chief Election Commissioner after 11th Jan 2015 when VSS demits office as CEC.
He will continue as CEC till 18th April 2015. when he attains age of 65 years which is the current upper age limit for CEC

Dr Syed Nasim Ahmad Zaidi
DOB: 6th July 1952
DOA:7th August 2012
DOR:5th July 2017 as CEC
Native: UP
Service:IAS
Cadre:UP
Batch:1976
Last Post in GOI: Civil Aviation Secretary, Also held post earlier as DG DGCA.
Significant Postings:
He would be appointed as CEC after HS Brahma demits office on 18th April. He will hold office till he attains 65 years of age i.e. 5th of July 2017.

Next Loksabha Election will be held in 2019, but there are Assembly elections before that. Anyhow, 2019 will be under entirely new set of commissioners. After 2015 , CEC appointed by UPA will be in Minority when New Govt appoints two ECs of its choice. That should be sufficient to keep him in check.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 May 2014 21:22

Narayana Rao wrote:Not so easy sir. His position is a constitutional one and difficult to remove. But if he is arrested then it will be diffulct for him to continue. By the way he was earliest worked in YSR's AP. Said to close to YSR.

Bringing up YSR, in context of EC Sampath is transfer of outrage on dead person while leaving DIEnasty clean.Truly psy-ops. Don't fall for it. Sampath was Coal secy and was appointed by UPA.

geeth · Post by **geeth** » 03 May 2014 21:39

But then, It could be that he was picked up for the post of coal secy, precisely for the reason that he was a YSR crony...I mean, you need someone trustworthy for that post ..no?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 May 2014 21:42

Don't you see the culpability of the DIEnasty gets diluted and vanishes by bringing in dead YSR. In the end 2Gs appointed all these Elect Congress minions. Blaming dead YSR allows them to escape accountability and keeps the spotless image of DIEnasty.

SaraLax · Post by **SaraLax** » 03 May 2014 21:43

sivab wrote:
Prashanth @PrashanthSai369 · 11h

Azhagiri predicts 25 seats for ADMK.And he is sure,DMK will get only 3 seats. Watch Azhagiri's interview in Thanthi TV today at 9:30 PM
For those who dont recognize, Azhagiri is son of Thatha Karunanidhi and was a central minister, but now expelled from DMK.

Hmm ... This would mean around 11-12 seats for NDA in TN and NDA coming 2nd after ADMK.

geeth · Post by **geeth** » 03 May 2014 21:50

Even a Village boy knows who stole the coal..I am only stressing the contribution of YSR even after death. All said and done, It was only after him (and Sonia ofcourse), EJ's developed so much arrogance...before that, it was chupke..chupke with a tinge of apology (it is said in bible onlee type of statements).

YSR's contribution to Indian corruption is phenominal and even Sonia got encouraged by that, about the potential loot from India.