Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 04 May 2014 23:34

^^^
I thought that was about 3 mins only. Is that the full interview?

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 04 May 2014 23:56

SwamyG wrote:^^^
I thought that was about 3 mins only. Is that the full interview?

Yes, its full interview. If you have adblock, may have to disable it. Some weird tech issues, if enabled.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 05 May 2014 01:21

Rahul Kanwal's election express was at Amethi tonight and the electricity went of during the coverage. In addition to Amethi, it sends a strong message to rest of India about how bad the Gandis treated Amethi.
Tomorrow's NaMo rally is expected to pull 200 k crowd. Dhoti shivering time for pseudos and their chamchas

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 05 May 2014 01:34

Lilo wrote:Kureel mama has outdone himself again

Wow. Bl*dy wow, I say.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 May 2014 01:44

del.

when that thread was locked specifically for derailing with modi and hindutva discussion, it is beyond common sense that you would try to get this one locked too.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 May 2014 02:17

Rahul M saar,

that thread was locked, I assume, because the issue of Hindutva vs/and Development does not belong there. What I wrote here is germane to the subject matter of this thread. This thread is about "ideas". What does Narendra Modi stand for?

If this thread is not for discussing such matters, then I ask what is this thread for? Why are there two politics threads?

AFAIU that thread is for election commentary and this thread is mostly about ideology, political views of political players and issues! If I am wrong, please correct me.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 05 May 2014 02:19

Anantha wrote:Rahul Kanwal's election express was at Amethi tonight and the electricity went of during the coverage. In addition to Amethi, it sends a strong message to rest of India about how bad the Gandis treated Amethi.
Tomorrow's NaMo rally is expected to pull 200 k crowd. Dhoti shivering time for pseudos and their chamchas

HC Allahabad warned electricity board UP not to selectively give bijli to Amethi as special town, if this is their state then God forbid

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 05 May 2014 02:24

Acc to Sunday Guardian congress thankful to EC for keeping poll v long so that Modi wave fizzles out, NDA would have got 20 extra seats if it was wrapped up in 2 weeks
MJ Akbar writes only other event complementing such a lengthy poll is IPL

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 May 2014 02:30

IndraD wrote:Acc to Sunday Guardian congress thankful to EC for keeping poll v long so that Modi wave fizzles out, NDA would have got 20 extra seats if it was wrapped up in 2 weeks
MJ Akbar writes only other event complementing such a lengthy poll is IPL

The lengthy poll has certainly worked in favor of Modi. Through is numerous rallies, Modi has been able to reach many more constituencies and leave his imprint there.

Congress thought that Modi's wave would peak and then subside. Instead the extra time has been useful for Modi wave to become more extensive and to sink in deeper into the people.

Congress has been given really bad advice - length of the election period, but also on marketing.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 05 May 2014 02:32

IndraD wrote:Acc to Sunday Guardian congress thankful to EC for keeping poll v long so that Modi wave fizzles out, NDA would have got 20 extra seats if it was wrapped up in 2 weeks
MJ Akbar writes only other event complementing such a lengthy poll is IPL

Indra-ji,
That is one way of looking at it. But holding polls in several phases has also allowed the BJP to shift its limited cadre from seat to seat, thus making its prospects better in many regions where it is weak (WB, Assam, even UP to an extent). So, I am not at all convinced that the multi phased poll is bad for BJP. BJP has gained in some areas, and has lost in other areas.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 May 2014 02:42

I think in the next two phases there is going to be a lot more booth rigging and a lot more violence.

The political parties like SP, BSP, TMC, etc. were behaving due to security forces and because they wanted to avoid the bad name that comes with rigging in the subsequent phases. As the phases end and we reach the slog overs, political parties are going to care ever less about image, so they would be letting loose all their goondas. UP, Bihar and West Bengal are going to see more of this rigging and violence in the next 8 days.

niran ji,

I hope BJP is in strength and where it has less strength, their people are using video cameras to their full potential to record all forms of rigging and intimidation. Also they should take interviews of all those who could not avail of their right to vote freely.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 05 May 2014 02:45

IndraD wrote:Acc to Sunday Guardian congress thankful to EC for keeping poll v long so that Modi wave fizzles out, NDA would have got 20 extra seats if it was wrapped up in 2 weeks
MJ Akbar writes only other event complementing such a lengthy poll is IPL

nageshks wrote: Indra-ji,
That is one way of looking at it. But holding polls in several phases has also allowed the BJP to shift its limited cadre from seat to seat, thus making its prospects better in many regions where it is weak (WB, Assam, even UP to an extent). So, I am not at all convinced that the multi phased poll is bad for BJP. BJP has gained in some areas, and has lost in other areas.

+100
There are advantages and disadvantages for INC. Advantages are they can easily rig the elections as BJP will be found wanting at several areas because they don't even have folks to sit at booths as agents in some states. I know few friends who were in MP moved to Varanasi etc. Same with WB. Another advantage is it gives a way where the opposition start campaigners will wearout and campaign fatigue will catch on. Disadvantages are especially if you are fighting with back on the wall. The opposition gets a good amount of time to campaign. In this case Modi took the advantages fully. He is campaigning with an expected huge rally in Amethi. He couldn't still do the same in Raibareili. If it was two weeks and be done with then Modi would never got a chance to visit Amethi.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 May 2014 02:52

As the other thread is locked, I'm posting this here. Sorry! Will delete it if asked

Published on May 5, 2014
By Mir Ehsan
Double independent challenge to Congress in Ladakh

Srinagar: In Ladakh, which votes on May 7, the presence of two independent candidates has introduced an element of unpredictability in what should have been a fight between the Congress and the BJP. The Congress, which represents the Hill Development Councils in Kargil and Leh districts, had earlier looked in a comfortable position. The battle seems no longer so simple.

The Congress has fielded Tsering Samphel, president of the Ladakh unit of the party, though Congress leaders from Muslim-dominated Kargil were in favour of a Muslim candidate.

BJP candidate Thupsang Chewang is a former MP who was the first chief executive of the Ladakh Hill Development Council. Chewang joining the BJP has given it a good foothold in the region.

Independent candidate Ghulam Reza, considered a proxy candidate of chief executive councillor, Kargil Hill Development Council, Asghar Karblai, has the support of Imam Khomeini Memorial Trust, a powerful Shia organisation. This has given Congress leaders a cause for worry.

The other independent candidate Agha Syed Kazim Sabri, a councillor, has the support of a section of NC workers and the Islamia School, a powerful religious group. He is likely to cut into Congress votes.

“In Kargil, it is a fight between candidates of two religious groups having political backing. A single candidate from Kargil could have tilted the balance. But this time anything can happen,’’ said Shabir Ahmad, a resident of Kargil.

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The BJP, banking on Buddhist-dominated Leh, is eyeing some Muslim support in Kargil and hoping to benefit from the strife within the Congress. The BJP also hopes to benefit from non-cooperation of a section of the National Conference, the Congress ally.

To woo voters in Leh, the BJP is promising union territory status to Ladakh. The Congress leadership in Leh too has promised UT status , but the Congress state leadership and the NC are opposed to the idea. The BJP has roped in some central Muslim leaders to campaign in Kargil.

“If the BJP manages to get 3,000 to 5,000 votes in Kargil region, then they have a very good chance here,’’ said Khurshid Ahmad, a political columnist who writes about the political affairs of the Ladakh region.

J&KPCC president Saifuddin Soz said the Congress and coalition partner NC are doing everything to fix problems in Kargil. “We know our shortcomings as well as strengths. We have done lot of development and people will support us,’’ he said.

Despite a 90 per cent Muslim population in Kargil, separatists hold no sway in this region.

In Ladakh, Muslim and Buddhist vote share is almost equal. In 2009 when NC-Congress had put up a joint candidate, Independent candidate Ghulam Hassan Khan won. Khan had joined NC soon after winning.

It seems all the more probable that BJP could get 3 seats in J&K.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 May 2014 02:59

Muppalla ji, IndraD ji, nageshks ji,

Another advantage for Modi due to this long election has been that Modi has been able to create an inevitability of his winning based on the previous phases, the impression of front-runner. This has helped Modi to win even bigger in the subsequent phases.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 05 May 2014 03:01

arrey mod sir pls reopen the state election thread, where to post election related stuff?
If you want to close a thread pls close the AAP one (in exchange). 2 week ki to baat hai.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 05 May 2014 03:15

Smriti Irani lets Rahul Kanwal have it, see around 2:00, 7:20, 8:20 (kranthikari), 11:00, 13:00 see the whole thing

http://aajtak.intoday.in/video/priyanka ... 63395.html

He is such an ahole

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 05 May 2014 03:26

IndraD bhai
I second you, if not let us just use this thread for all election related stuff

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 05 May 2014 03:31

sivab wrote:Smriti Irani lets Rahul Kanwal have it, see around 2:00, 7:20, 8:20 (kranthikari), 11:00, 13:00 see the whole thing

http://aajtak.intoday.in/video/priyanka ... 63395.html

He is such an ahole

In the very beginning, he says ye Gandhi parivar ka Gad hai, she says gad nahin Gadda hai

Sathish_A · Post by **Sathish_A** » 05 May 2014 03:57

Anantha wrote:IndraD bhai
I second you, if not let us just use this thread for all election related stuff

I have created a thread for General Election and hope bradmins will let us use it for all election related discussions

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 05 May 2014 04:02

sivab wrote:Smriti Irani lets Rahul Kanwal have it, see around 2:00, 7:20, 8:20 (kranthikari), 11:00, 13:00 see the whole thing

http://aajtak.intoday.in/video/priyanka ... 63395.html

He is such an ahole

At 7:00 she mentions Pipli village and that the whole village is boycotting elections because of problems due to floods that were not addressed.

She read the twitter sent by BRF-ites.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 05 May 2014 04:11

I just coined NDM -> Nimble DyNaMo Modi. read nimble in "marwari seth tamil".

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 05 May 2014 04:29

sivab wrote:Smriti Irani lets Rahul Kanwal have it, see around 2:00, 7:20, 8:20 (kranthikari), 11:00, 13:00 see the whole thing

http://aajtak.intoday.in/video/priyanka ... 63395.html

He is such an ahole

She can't say anything else for an idiot like Rahul Kanwal. He keeps on insinuating her be she kept the cool while giving Thappads.

Its a different matter, Rahul Kunwal like Dhimmis gone too far into traitor lands, that they don't learn from those Thappads and do a journalistic job.

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 05 May 2014 04:38

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 05 May 2014 04:40

^ my math is weak.. does it add to 543 seats?

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 05 May 2014 04:41

I have talked to some Punjabis and they are leaning towards AAP. Everyone is pissed at SAD. They say they are corrupt and have spoilt youth of Punjab by promoting drug culture.

AAP may get a new life from Punjab. Any learned member who can shed more light on this issue ?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 May 2014 04:49

Kakkaji wrote:
sivab wrote:Smriti Irani lets Rahul Kanwal have it, see around 2:00, 7:20, 8:20 (kranthikari), 11:00, 13:00 see the whole thing

http://aajtak.intoday.in/video/priyanka ... 63395.html

He is such an ahole
At 7:00 she mentions Pipli village and that the whole village is boycotting elections because of problems due to floods that were not addressed.

She read the twitter sent by BRF-ites.

I tweeted to Amit Shah and Smritiji. Looks like they are paying very much attention to people.

I hope Modiji

1. Wil continue 3D meetings all over the country even after becoming PM
2. Continue to take our feedback and act on it
3. Ask people in meetings to coem forward with fraud information on Central schemes

Santosh · Post by **Santosh** » 05 May 2014 04:56

Anecdotal evidence from my friends seems to suggest the same. Punjab/Chandigarh area is where AAP seems to have dug its heels and fought hard. Everywhere else they have fared badly including Delhi and Mumbai. Not sure about Bengaluru

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 05 May 2014 04:59

Sumeet wrote:I have talked to some Punjabis and they are leaning towards AAP. Everyone is pissed at SAD. They say they are corrupt and have spoilt youth of Punjab by promoting drug culture.

AAP may get a new life from Punjab. Any learned member who can shed more light on this issue ?

sAAP is competitive in 5-6 seats. One being KanyaKumari and all others from Punjab especially rural Punjab. Whether they will simply cut BJP margin by pulling Congi votes remains to be seen. Not much to fear as the lowest that NDA is getting is 245. Modi Govt is the only choice. Post Govt formation these guys could be pulled into BJP and sAAP closed down. Most of the sAAP are against corruption and do not necessarily agree with Khujli's anti-Modi stand that has brought disrepute to their movement. Khujli hiself may be dumped by the winners.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 05 May 2014 05:21

Sumeet wrote:I have talked to some Punjabis and they are leaning towards AAP. Everyone is pissed at SAD. They say they are corrupt and have spoilt youth of Punjab by promoting drug culture.

AAP may get a new life from Punjab. Any learned member who can shed more light on this issue ?

It seems the infection is moving northwest. It's gone from Delhi now. Soon it will move in Pakistan and we don't have to worry any more.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 05 May 2014 05:24

Kakkaji wrote:At 7:00 she mentions Pipli village and that the whole village is boycotting elections because of problems due to floods that were not addressed.

She read the twitter sent by BRF-ites.

Awesome. Hope this translates to positive developments for that area and a chance for Smt Irani to work for Amethi as MP. Thanks Vivek Rao and anyone else who tweeted the info.

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 05 May 2014 05:30

Santosh wrote:Anecdotal evidence from my friends seems to suggest the same. Punjab/Chandigarh area is where AAP seems to have dug its heels and fought hard. Everywhere else they have fared badly including Delhi and Mumbai. Not sure about Bengaluru

I seriously hope Modi cleans off filth from SAD. What they are doing is very dangerous for future of this country.

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 05 May 2014 05:32

KLP Dubey wrote:
Sumeet wrote:I have talked to some Punjabis and they are leaning towards AAP. Everyone is pissed at SAD. They say they are corrupt and have spoilt youth of Punjab by promoting drug culture.

AAP may get a new life from Punjab. Any learned member who can shed more light on this issue ?
It seems the infection is moving northwest. It's gone from Delhi now. Soon it will move in Pakistan and we don't have to worry any more.

Aap ke munh mei ghee shakar.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 05 May 2014 05:38

RamaY wrote:Smriti Irani lets Rahul Kanwal have it, see around 2:00, 7:20, 8:20 (kranthikari), 11:00, 13:00 see the whole thing

Also at 13:30 onwards, about these irritating questions of "development versus Hindutva" - the correct answer given by all BJP laeaders is read the manifesto. If folks read that before starting the same old discussion again, it would have avoided the temporary "lock" of the other thread.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 05 May 2014 05:56

https://play.ndtv.com/video/index/id/319383?#t=277

Burkha in Amethi, pushing congis. At one point a guy thinks she is campaigning for congress

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 05 May 2014 06:02

KLP Dubey wrote:I have talked to some Punjabis and they are leaning towards AAP. Everyone is pissed at SAD. They say they are corrupt and have spoilt youth of Punjab by promoting drug culture.

AAP may get a new life from Punjab. Any learned member who can shed more light on this issue ?

It seems the infection is moving northwest. It's gone from Delhi now. Soon it will move in Pakistan and we don't have to worry any more.[/quote]

In fact I have a grand plan for Khujli. He can become a leader of some sub group in UN (not on behalf of India). The guy would troll all western countries royally.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 05 May 2014 06:27

sivab wrote:Amit Shah interview with sourdesai

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/priyanka-wil ... 451-3.html

Rajdeep's behaviour with AS is exactly like how it was with Modi when Modi was not so famous, only a little better.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 05 May 2014 06:31

KLP Dubey wrote: Also at 13:30 onwards, about these irritating questions of "development versus Hindutva" - the correct answer given by all BJP laeaders is read the manifesto. If folks read that before starting the same old discussion again, it would have avoided the temporary "lock" of the other thread.

BRF is a microcosm of Bharat only.
We have our own Rahul Kunwals, Sardesais, Sibals, Abhishekji Singhwis and most importantly Kejriwals.

And of course vinay Katiyars, Giriraj Singhs and that Ramasene guys...

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 05 May 2014 06:32

RajeshA wrote:Muppalla ji, IndraD ji, nageshks ji,
Another advantage for Modi due to this long election has been that Modi has been able to create an inevitability of his winning based on the previous phases, the impression of front-runner. This has helped Modi to win even bigger in the subsequent phases.

That's my impression too. As the battle wears on, the psychological advantage keeps building up for the stronger side (NDA here). The BJP campaign has not let this natural advantage go to waste either.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 May 2014 06:45

Getting difficult to stand sanctimonious tripe from non-Indian members. When MMS was PM what to do it was follow the leader! But expect it will be a free for all once 5/16 comes.

Raja Ram · Post by **Raja Ram** » 05 May 2014 06:47

Smriti Irani has a done great job in that interview. She is one to watch out for in the years to come. If she also gets experience as a Minister and is able to demonstrate administrative experience, then she has the talent to reach great heights in the future....just a feeling that I got.