Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

[SaraLax]

In given sense, NDA is mercurial. Speak of how much BJP will win on its own. for effective reorganization of country, BJP winning 272 on its own is essential. rest is bonus.

Saar - My 2 Rupee opinion. TIFWIW.
I remember a well known astrologer (a certain Rao) said that the time at which BJP was created was not at all a good time and he was astounded by it & goes on to state that it was all the more bad that conscious Hindus who started the party had allowed such a mistake to happen !. He also specifically stated that ... based on looking at BJP's charts - BJP can never ever form the central government on its own (unlike the INC which has done it many times until 1992) and that BJP can form a central government only by means of coalition with other parties (i.e NDA). Now we all know NDA is not same as BJP !.
But his predication is that this time the NDA will be in power but will have to face some critical issues (as is the norm for any Indian government) - particularly on nature front. This was his prediction in December of last year.

Saar - Any thoughts (whether accepting or dissenting) of yours on the above lines ?.

[Muppalla]

Absolutely agree... I don't think MMS should face the humiliation meted out to PVNR (speaking for non-Congress political forces of course). One will note that the BJP has been fairly silent about MMS. But he should under no circumstances be explicitly forgiven or reinstated. Time for him to go quietly with whatever grace he can muster into the forest and await his time with total humility. Mother India may forgive him, but her children will wait awhile.

MMS is part of the cartel. He could not make cartel survive beyond the 10 years. W are just spinning it give honor to the cartel head. I respectfully disagree with all these spins. He does not need 10 years to destroy the cartel. He deserved to rot in hell for disrobing mother India and selling it for a penny.

[SaraLax]

Mamata deeply disappointing. Slowly losing balance after promising so much. We all know she is a bit crazy. Now - Reading quoran with Muslim dress.

Rao-saar,
Mamata's antics of wearing burkha and offering namaaz have been there for quite sometime. it was discussed during the last state assembly election too three years back, but as a mur mur. but this time NaMo has raised the pitch, and hence the matter is getting a lot of traction.

Sir,

Should not these very visible antics of Mamta (shouting in support of BD immigrants, Showing herself as more muslim than normal muslims) mean that Bengali Hindus would rush in large numbers to vote for BJP ?
Or
Is it that Hindus of Bengali origin are almost fine or less troubled with Mamta's intense Non-Hindu friendly ideas & activities ?.

There can be a small chunk of Non-Hindu votes that might go towards Commies & Congies..... so TMC is not assured of almost entire non-Hindu vote base by resorting to such antics but this same aspect could cause many Bengali Hindus to not support TMC. In all these - I am assuming that Hindus of Non-Bengali origin are silently determined to support BJP.

[pankajs]

Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant 1h

Updated seatwise projection for phases1-7 from @politicalbaaba. NDA 192, UPA 81, close calls 74 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzkrVZd ... R4TGM/edit …

[IndraD]

Delhi to LKO flight, they are AAP volunteers from AP apparently acc to twitter. It is one of the south Indian language on topi, I think Kerala?

[krishnan]

delhi all 7 seats are close call ???

[chaanakya]

Its Tamil. ( in first row)

[sum]

One can smell the sycophancy dripping in each word in this article:
The Intimate Daughter

Priyanka on the stump exudes the charisma of her grandmother. A portrait

[SRoy]

Rao-saar,
Mamata's antics of wearing burkha and offering namaaz have been there for quite sometime. it was discussed during the last state assembly election too three years back, but as a mur mur. but this time NaMo has raised the pitch, and hence the matter is getting a lot of traction.

Sir,

Should not these very visible antics of Mamta (shouting in support of BD immigrants, Showing herself as more muslim than normal muslims) mean that Bengali Hindus would rush in large numbers to vote for BJP ?
Or
Is it that Hindus of Bengali origin are almost fine or less troubled with Mamta's intense Non-Hindu friendly ideas & activities ?.

There can be a small chunk of Non-Hindu votes that might go towards Commies & Congies..... so TMC is not assured of almost entire non-Hindu vote base by resorting to such antics but this same aspect could cause many Bengali Hindus to not support TMC. In all these - I am assuming that Hindus of Non-Bengali origin are silently determined to support BJP.

You'll have to read all newspaper reports and see voting trends.

Non-Bengali Hindus are clustered only in certain urban belts, while you can see the constituency list where BJP can win is spread over a large area. So, saffron surge is not an exclusive non-Bengali pastime.

Bengali Hindus are not okay with MB's Muslim appeasement (refer to the news reports again).

BJP vote share, after all time low in 2009, started raising right after 2011 assembly polls. Reflected most clearly in panchayat polls, much before Modi wave begun. What does it mean? It means non-commie/left Bengali Hindus have moving away from TMC in small numbers even before BJP's campaign opened up.

Furthermore, (I posted this earlier) in all parliamentary constituencies BJP had a constant 3rd position. Means what? They had a dedicated vote bank even in worst times.

Problem is not whether Bengali Hindus are doing something or not doing. Problem is absence of a strong right wing political platform with enough boots on the ground. As for rural population themselves, they have already started organizing themselves (again search on Google), but whther there have been synergies with RSS (and BJP by extension) is not clear. Once that happens then extent of rural support for BJP would be clear.
BTW, the ToI article listing strong BJP support has some 4-5 outright rural tract. All of them along the border. And that should answer you (and other) about what the local population thinks about BD infiltration (taking into refugee and infiltrator distinction into account).

In next two phases, if BJP is not able to convert support into seats the reason for that would be lack of cadre on the ground.

[pankajs]

delhi all 7 seats are close call ???

At around 52% overall strike rate pre-poll NDA should cross 272. He is being cautious.

[SaraLax]

<Rao-saar,
Mamata's antics of wearing burkha and offering namaaz have been there for quite sometime. it was discussed during the last state assembly election too three years back, but as a mur mur. but this time NaMo has raised the pitch, and hence the matter is getting a lot of traction.>

Sir,

Should not these very visible antics of Mamta (shouting in support of BD immigrants, Showing herself as more muslim than normal muslims) mean that Bengali Hindus would rush in large numbers to vote for BJP ?
Or
Is it that Hindus of Bengali origin are almost fine or less troubled with Mamta's intense Non-Hindu friendly ideas & activities ?.

There can be a small chunk of Non-Hindu votes that might go towards Commies & Congies..... so TMC is not assured of almost entire non-Hindu vote base by resorting to such antics but this same aspect could cause many Bengali Hindus to not support TMC. In all these - I am assuming that Hindus of Non-Bengali origin are silently determined to support BJP.

You'll have to read all newspaper reports and see voting trends.

Non-Bengali Hindus are clustered only in certain urban belts, while you can see the constituency list where BJP can win is spread over a large area. So, saffron surge is not an exclusive non-Bengali pastime.

Bengali Hindus are not okay with MB's Muslim appeasement (refer to the news reports again).

BJP vote share, after all time low in 2009, started raising right after 2011 assembly polls. Reflected most clearly in panchayat polls, much before Modi wave begun. What does it mean? It means non-commie/left Bengali Hindus have moving away from TMC in small numbers even before BJP's campaign opened up.

Furthermore, (I posted this earlier) in all parliamentary constituencies BJP had a constant 3rd position. Means what? They had a dedicated vote bank even in worst times.

Problem is not whether Bengali Hindus are doing something or not doing. Problem is absence of a strong right wing political platform with enough boots on the ground. As for rural population themselves, they have already started organizing themselves (again search on Google), but whther there have been synergies with RSS (and BJP by extension) is not clear. Once that happens then extent of rural support for BJP would be clear.
BTW, the ToI article listing strong BJP support has some 4-5 outright rural tract. All of them along the border. And that should answer you (and other) about what the local population thinks about BD infiltration (taking into refugee and infiltrator distinction into account).

In next two phases, if BJP is not able to convert support into seats the reason for that would be lack of cadre on the ground.

Thanks for your information. I don't have much info on East India and am very curious to know more of the ground level information in Bengal (in politics/industry & etc). Being from South - It is so contrasting to compare highly inspiring former 'Bengali' leaders like Subhas Chandra Bose, Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna, Raja Ram Mohan Roy etc against current generation of Bengali 'leaders' like Mamta, Chatterjee & late Jyoti Basu. Maybe President Pranab is sanest of this lot.

What has happened to former Railway Minister & TMC MP ... Dinesh Trivedi (seemed to be a good guy) ... can WB BJP pull him into their organisation ?.

[member_28025]

Delhi to LKO flight, they are AAP volunteers from AP apparently acc to twitter. It is one of the south Indian language on topi, I think Kerala?

They call themselves "aam aadmi" and travel by plane! Are AAPtards fools not to notice this? Or are they really AAPtards?

[SRoy]

What has happened to former Railway Minister & TMC MP ... Dinesh Trivedi (seemed to be a good guy) ... can WB BJP pull him into their organisation ?.

He's TMC candidate from Barrackpore Parliamentary constituency.
I'll say if BJP goes 250+ a lot of people will switch over in longer run. Strength commands respect and loyalty.

[SaraLax]

What has happened to former Railway Minister & TMC MP ... Dinesh Trivedi (seemed to be a good guy) ... can WB BJP pull him into their organisation ?.

He's TMC candidate from Barrackpore Parliamentary constituency.
I'll say if BJP goes 250+ a lot of people will switch over in longer run. Strength commands respect and loyalty.

Ohh ... he is still in TMC then ... i thought he got openly rebuked by Mamta when he raised rail ticket prices and asked to quit the Railyway Minister post. I was thinking he would be have gotten out of TMC eventually.

[Yagnasri]

With regard to MMS please see what I have written in 2010.

http://rlindia.blogspot.in/2010/12/manm ... nesty.html

When I read it now after 4 years. Nothing changed.

[Dilbu]

I don't believe MMS was a sage who was forced to do what he did. If he had a conscience he could have atleast voiced his dissent if not waled out gracefully. There was a time when UPA needed MMS more than the other way around. No sir he allowed himself to be a stooge of foreign powers and that is sell out of highest order in my books. He may have less venom compared to others in UPA but he was a willing participant in the loot and burning of the country. I will not forgive him.

[Muppalla]

Problem is not whether Bengali Hindus are doing something or not doing. Problem is absence of a strong right wing political platform with enough boots on the ground. As for rural population themselves, they have already started organizing themselves (again search on Google), but whther there have been synergies with RSS (and BJP by extension) is not clear. Once that happens then extent of rural support for BJP would be clear.
BTW, the ToI article listing strong BJP support has some 4-5 outright rural tract. All of them along the border. And that should answer you (and other) about what the local population thinks about BD infiltration (taking into refugee and infiltrator distinction into account).

In next two phases, if BJP is not able to convert support into seats the reason for that would be lack of cadre on the ground.

This is exactly what I am repetetively writing about the theories of those who think BJP can get 300+ on its own. They are all basing based on NaMo popularity. This popularity has to be converted to seats and this is only possible if you have a boots on the ground with dedicated door-to-door campain using local campaign flavors. Otherwise it is very difficult. The remote possibility of this 300+ happens if a large scale population thinks that current local rulers are alien and NaMo is God decended which is still not the case under TsuNaMo wave.

[vivek.rao]

She is now completely gone crack pot level. She knows that NM may become PM. She may think 3rd front has a chance. But to insult the possible PM in this manner when your state is bankrupt and needs handouts from Delhi? Even Derick O Brain is gone to the same level to insult NM in the same manner.

The real reason may be the level of support for lotus and NM image in WB. Didi does not like to share fame with anyone else. After all she is from mafia only.

Actually this is good. The scums are creeping out of their shells. When we say appeasement is dangerous most Hindus don't get it. They call you sanghi,righwing blah blah...

Now that she sees her support is going away, she is showing her true colours. With few words, Modi showed the real face of Mamta. I think this will have tremendous repercussions for her.

[Anantha]

IndraD
The Topi writing is in Tamil. These are simply paid volunteers. Yesterday at Amethi Election express show, AAP guys admitted there were only two AAP locals out of a crowd of about 600-700

[vivek.rao]

#NaMoInAmethi spoke about how #RajivGandhi abused #TAnjaiah, AP CM in public. #TAnjaiah was a Dalit. Congress can now say bye-bye to Dalit support!

Anjiah came from a humble background but wasn't a dalit -- he was a reddy.

He is a Dalit!

[James B]

Anjiah came from a humble background but wasn't a dalit -- he was a reddy.

He is a Dalit!

Tanguturi Anjaiah or Ramakrishna Reddy Talla was the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, India from October 1980 to February 1982

[g.sarkar]

She is now completely gone crack pot level. She knows that NM may become PM. She may think 3rd front has a chance. But to insult the possible PM in this manner when your state is bankrupt and needs handouts from Delhi? Even Derick O Brain is gone to the same level to insult NM in the same manner.

Dereck O'Brien has no political base so has to do Didi's bidding. Long time ago I read his blog about a branch of his family that settled in Pakistan. They have converted to Islam just to survive. There he thanked India's democracy that allowed him to practice his religion.
Gautam

[member_28025]

IndraD
The Topi writing is in Tamil. These are simply paid volunteers. Yesterday at Amethi Election express show, AAP guys admitted there were only two AAP locals out of a crowd of about 600-700

Paid or not, it doesn't give a good impression seeing so called members of the AAM AADMI party travelling by plane. They should at least remove the AAP caps when they travel by plane as it gives bad image to the party. Not that AAP has a good image but why worsen it?

[abhijitm]

BJP's problem with Bengal, Maharashtra and to some extend Karnataka is there is no local face who can be projected as a mass leader. You first install a leader and then people will start rallying around. Every state bar no must have a leader, even in Kerala and J&K. And that leader should get due national level publicity and backing. Event by event people will start gathering around with more confidence. That is how you conquer. That is exactly what 300 years ago Dadoji Konddev did in Maharashtra. He projected young Shivaji as the leader of marathas. One by one each subah and pargana fell in line.

BJP should never allow leadership vacuum in any state. Take an example of Maharashtra. That is a sorry state of affair. A state which has a potential to be a stronghold has been left leaderless for many years. Munde, Gadkari were never mass leaders. Young generation do not see them as role model. If MH has this scenario then it will take ages for BJP to conquer WB.

[KLP Dubey]

Cervical Cancer does not mean they had indiscriminate sex. That is not correct. Let us please keep to facts.

I strictly kept to the facts. The almost certain cause of cervical cancer is HPV infection which is almost always sexually transmitted.

You are making additional suggestions and reading other things....which I agree 200% people should think about.

[abhijitm]

Paid or not, it doesn't give a good impression seeing so called members of the AAM AADMI party travelling by plane. They should at least remove the AAP caps when they travel by plane as it gives bad image to the party. Not that AAP has a good image but why worsen it?

This is not a strong stick of argument. You do not hit sAAPs with that. What will you say? aam aadmi should not travel by plane or any one who travels by plane is not aam-aadmi?

PS: BTW what is this sexist name aam "aadmi"? hain! why not aam "insaan" or aam "hindustani" or aam "bharatiya"?? I strongly protest. Indian women should confront kejri on this.

[vivek.rao]

Prior sanction for probe against officials unconstitutional: SC

The Supreme Court on Tuesday held as invalid and unconstitutional the legal provision which makes sanction of competent authority mandatory for CBI to probe a corruption case against an officer of joint secretary-rank or above, saying it has the propensity of shielding the corrupt. Supreme Court of India.

A five-judge Constitution bench headed by Chief Justice RM Lodha delivered the judgement after examining Section 6A of the Delhi Special Police Establishment Act (DSPEA), which protects top bureaucrats from being investigated in corruption cases without prior approval.

"We hold Section 6A of the Act, which requires Central Government's approval for the offences under the Prevention of Corruption Act (PCA) to make inquiry against officer of the rank of joint secretary and above, as invalid and violative of Article 14 of the Constitution," the bench, also comprising justices A K Patnaik, S J Mukhopadhaya, Dipak Misra and F M I Kalifulla, said. It said there cannot be any classification of officers for the purpose of inquiry of offence under the PCA.

"The corrupt public servants, higher or lower in rank, are the birds of same feather and have to be dealt with equally," the court observed. Maintaining that "corruption is an enemy of nation", the bench said that it is difficult to make classification of officers in graft cases as it is against the mandate of the PCA. It said that the prior approval under Section 6A would result, indirectly, in halting the investigation and if the CBI is not allowed to carry on the preliminary inquiry how the investigation can proceed.

[pankajs]

Lt Cdr (R) PK Rajesh ‏@pkrajeshpk 1h

IB sources: Contest in Amethi is neck to neck..!!! Margin could be in hundreds..!!!

[abhijitm]

...MMS...I will not forgive him.

me neither. He, the family and the gang made complete mockery of Indian PM position and the democracy.

[pankajs]

Zee News ‏@ZeeNews 1h

Jamaat announces support to Kejriwal ahead of Varanasi battle http://zeenews.india.com/news/general-e ... 30160.html …

[member_28025]

Paid or not, it doesn't give a good impression seeing so called members of the AAM AADMI party travelling by plane. They should at least remove the AAP caps when they travel by plane as it gives bad image to the party. Not that AAP has a good image but why worsen it?

This is not a strong stick of argument. You do not hit sAAPs with that. What will you say? aam aadmi should not travel by plane or any one who travels by plane is not aam-aadmi?

PS: BTW what is this sexist name aam "aadmi"? hain! why not aam "insaan" or aam "hindustani" or aam "bharatiya"?? I strongly protest. Indian women should confront kejri on this.

Didn't Kejri travel by a local train in mumbai to show that he was an aam aadmi? Didn't he travel by metro for his swearing-in ceremony as a show of his aam aadminess?

[ramana]

I don't believe MMS was a sage who was forced to do what he did. If he had a conscience he could have atleast voiced his dissent if not walked out gracefully. There was a time when UPA needed MMS more than the other way around. No sir he allowed himself to be a stooge of foreign powers and that is sell out of highest order in my books. He may have less venom compared to others in UPA but he was a willing participant in the loot and burning of the country. I will not forgive him.

+108. Dilbu very proud of your clear thinking and coming to the core issues.


To quote Milton in Paradise Lost, "They are also guilty who are silent in a moral crisis!"

[abhijitm]

Didn't Kejri travel by a local train in mumbai to show that he was an aam aadmi? Didn't he travel by metro for his swearing-in ceremony as a show of his aam aadminess?

Yes but it is okay to travel by plane between long distance cities...if aam aadmi can afford. Anyway OT here.

[vivek.rao]

He is a Dalit!

Tanguturi Anjaiah or Ramakrishna Reddy Talla was the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, India from October 1980 to February 1982

Yep.You are right.

[member_28173]

SLOG Overs ................

(1) I want Modi to talk Valkimiki in Bihar with reference to Hinduism. I think Valmiki was OBC.

Anyway, your point about Valmiki's story conveying social mobility based on one's actions is a strong message.

NOTE : Tommorows first speech is @valmiki nagar in bihar.... so can help

[member_28468]

I side with Narendra Modi on most issues in the India 2014 Election.
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[pankajs]

TIMES NOW ‏@timesnow 1h

Narendra Modi is desperating playing the backward caste card in Uttar Pradesh, says BSP chief Mayawati #CasteSpin

Yashwant Deshmukh ‏@cvoter 1h

Show me one single time when Mayawati or Satish Mishra have attacked BJP aiming at Dalit votes in 20 yrs. They always used "Secular card".

Yashwant Deshmukh ‏@cvoter 1h

If BSP is forced to drop "Secular card" and start playing "Dalit card" then this means Dalits voters are experimenting with other options.

Neerja Prasad ‏@123crush 1h

@mediacrooks Bahenji is in total panic,her Dalit vote bank is slipping. @narendramodi has shifted whole formula of caste politics into dev

[Atri]

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I am at 82%.. Perhaps I am too right for Modi..

[RajeshA]

Published on May 06, 2014
By Deepshikha Ghosh
To keep Narendra Modi out, can tie-up with Mamata Banerjee, says Left leader

Thiruvananthapuram: An alliance between Mamata Banerjee and the Left may be unthinkable, but the CPI says - anything to keep Narendra Modi out.

CPI leader AB Bardhan said on Monday that he is not averse to partnering with the Chief Minister and her Trinamool Congress for political expediency.

"The whole idea will be to keep Modi out if it is possible. I don't give the BJP more than 165-170 seats and with all they can't go beyond 210, therefore BJP has to be kept out. And for that all options including Mamata will be discussed," Mr Bardhan told a private news channel.

Mamata Banerjee's aversion to the Left is legendary. After defeating the Left Front government in 2011, she has relentlessly blamed the Left for leaving Bengal struggling with poor infrastructure and massive debts.

As he suggested a tie-up with a bitter rival, Mr Bardhan said, "Why should Mamata become a central figure in the alliance? There are so many people whose policies are so different and they are anti-BJP and anti-Congress."

Mr Modi, the BJP's prime ministerial candidate, is widely predicted to lead his party to one of its biggest victories in the national election.

Though attempts at forging a coalition of non-Congress, non-BJP parties have not taken off, Left leaders have held out the possibility of post-poll tie-ups. CPI(M) General Secretary Prakash Karat talked about a "repeat of the 1996-like situation" and the Congress supporting a government of secular parties to keep the BJP out of power.

Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi, however, has ruled out supporting a Third Front.

I've been saying that there is potential within non-NDA parties to come together despite their differences and form a third front govt. SP and BSP have in the past both supported the Congress. Now Left is saying they are willing to support TMC. JD(S) supports UPA from outside. Only unknowns are whether AIADMK and DMK can both support a PM and be part of same govt.

Even NDA members need not stick to Modi. LJP of Ram Vilas Paswan or even TDP can withdraw and throw their support behind a secular face.

Point is that these parties have certain very vocal constituencies, especially minorities - Muslims & Christians, who could put pressure on them to ditch NaMo. Also these parties have money men in the background, who fund the election campaigns, who can also weigh in, and they can have their own puppeteers within India and outside.

I don't agree that a NaMo govt. can be formed if BJP gets less than 210 and I don't think a strong NaMo govt. can be formed with BJP less than 240!

There are too many mavericks and headstrong people in Indian politics, and even if they are for sale, they are also vulnerable to blackmail and threats. And they seldom show spine when the peacefuls promise them peace!

I am pretty sure BJP will be getting anywhere between 246 and 263 seats! And if niran ji's feedback of 100+ seats in UP+BR is true, then NaMo could even get 272 lotuses!

[pankajs]

NitiCentral.com ‏@NitiCentral 1h

Priyanka, Sonia have insulted Rajiv Gandhi more than anyone else: BJP http://www.niticentral.com/2014/05/06/p ... 20564.html …