Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 May 2014 11:31

NaMo will lose onlee.

SPattath · Post by **SPattath** » 08 May 2014 11:50

There is an Modi interview with Arnab tonite at 9pm IST on Times Now.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 08 May 2014 11:53

Yes , the same one on Frankly Speaking with AG. Now he knows that he can not manipulate or snip it or else NaMo will release it to all other channels which will show the same interview without AG 24x7 till 12th.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 08 May 2014 12:02

Amethi citizens - RaGa interact with love, samples:

1. Aaj to aap yahan apne swarth ke liye aye hain

2. Chalo dus saal baad dekhne ko to mila

3. Bhaiya… sadak pe jhatka laga ki nahi

4. Rahul to Amethi citizen: If you want roads go join BJP

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... Os.twitter

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 08 May 2014 12:12

Gus wrote:
ashish raval wrote:Looks like it to laymen like me. He did manage to keep us safe during his tenure and nearly wipe Qaeda dogs out.
who is us

cheney by pushing for iraq war, and letting the afg war play out as it did (letting off osama, outsourcing to pak, paying pak billions for shooting at and killing americans), the trillions wasted etc - he is the worst of the lot when it comes to the bush administration idiots who drove america into the ditch.

how stupid can one get. "keep us safe". what about the 1000s of american soldiers dead and maimed in iraq in an unnecessary war.

unbelievable to see this kind of nonsense in BRF.

Well not entirely unnecessary. From US perspective, It gave them an alternate base in the middle east other than Saudi and closer to Iran. Heavy profits to oil, private security and defense giants and future sales customer and thereby securing jobs. As for number of soldiers killed, US police kills 5x times more number of people in US in shootings, so it is not massive price to conquer a land with 20 percent world oil. America can easily absorb the cost of war by printing of dollars which it never intends to pay back to the world buying it.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 08 May 2014 12:21

RamaY wrote:
ashish raval wrote: Looks like it to laymen like me. He did manage to keep us safe during his tenure and nearly wipe Qaeda dogs out.
Did he?
Now AQ is the non-state actor of US in Syria, Libya and Ukraine.

In Syria they are reluctant ally to Qaeda under pressure from Saud's and allies. Libya had tiny percentage which they can live with as top leadership and subsequent army will flush or sideline trigger happy morons at bottom. I don't believe Ukraine has it. Americans will not allow Qaeda to have foothold in European Union and Nato aspirant nation.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 08 May 2014 12:22

Hitesh:

To set a perspective. During the 1971 war, about 10 million refugees had come to India.
Most of them went back.

Where there is a will there is a way.

Even if 10-20% are repatriated it will have a huge impact on limiting new intrusions.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 08 May 2014 12:32

VikramS wrote:Hitesh:

To set a perspective. During the 1971 war, about 10 million refugees had come to India.
Most of them went back.

Where there is a will there is a way.

Even if 10-20% are repatriated it will have a huge impact on limiting new intrusions.

Yes, the effect will be two fold. Discourage new intrusions and encourage voluntarily deporting themselves. 10 million even if over a period of 5-10 years can and should be done.

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 08 May 2014 12:37

Is there a separate thread for discussing and tracking the Bangladeshi Illegals issue? If not I think there should be one.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 08 May 2014 12:42

There is one dharmic way of sending BD infiltrators who come to Bharat mostly for economic opportunities. Ensure that BD also develops economically and encouraged to become more dharmic socially. Than put pressure on those in India to return back. Two ways of doing this. Send those who are caught with Indian documents to Immigration and Customs Enforcement and deportation Centre (ICE-DC) and those ,who claim they are BD and came to India in search of jobs, accord them refugee status and send them to Refugee Processing and Training cum Management Centre (RP-TMC). Allow them to work with local population and return to centre after working hours. Secondly , catch those infiltrators who enter India for nefarious activities and put them in Aliens Detention Centres (ADC) under high security. Since they are enemy aliens they can't roam freely. We need to have Standard Intake Processing Procedure . And of course if status is determined to be "religiously and politically persecuted Person" then would be allowed slow integration into Indian society and grant citizenship to those who pass the tests of loyalty.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 May 2014 12:52

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 May 2014 13:15

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 08 May 2014 13:40

Perhaps one of the mods can suggest a suitable thread for discussing Bangladeshi immigration - legal, illegal, infiltration, refuge, etc.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 08 May 2014 14:47

SaiK wrote:thatha ji can get the ministry of NE region.

why ? you think NE people dont deserve a competent minister ?

that portfolio would go to kiren rijju.

NikhilB · Post by **NikhilB** » 08 May 2014 15:07

SwamyG wrote:Just triple checking with gurus here. Varanasi is a guaranteed win for Modi right? Is the drama for the rest of UP?

Three guess theories from my side:

1. It's to ensure that EC remains on toes especially for eastern Bengal region and avoid rigging. It's kind of OUT appeal to Umpire to ensure Umpire doesn't give undue Wide ball. If you constantly hammer EC about being biased, they have to at least show that they are unbiased for remaining phase.

2. It's to ensure that NaMo remains in news despite rally from Pappu. NaMo has managed to steal show on almost every election day. Momentum can pick up.

3. Third is Dhoti-shiver theory. BJP might have come to know that the numbers are less than expected, so this is kind of honorable acceptance strategy to justify low number of seats on May 16 by saying "see, I told you so earlier. CEC is compromised"

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 08 May 2014 15:08

Fear sells. Exhibit 1:

BJP is threatening to stop pro-poor schemes if they come to power: Sonia Gandhi News Flash: http://goo.gl/vH4mnO

meanwhile:

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 08 May 2014 15:20

Is AJ totally indispensable in the current scenario, he is simply everywhere. If Smriti Irani rises to take over reins from Sushma, isn't there another person who can replace AJ as well?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 08 May 2014 15:26

He seems to have flipped early in the game to back Modi fully while Sushma Auntie had continued her silence on Modi.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 08 May 2014 15:41

^AJ was always a friend of Modi. They are like that since when Modi was just a ordinary functionary and not so famous. He just happened to be part of the Delhi gang, which is understandable given the kind of politician he is (non-electoral type until recently). But, when push came to shove, he chose the right side and that is all that matters. He doesn't have an ego the size of a T-Rex like some other people and knows what his limits and capabilities are. He made the clever move and that itself shows he is valuable.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 May 2014 15:48

Stakes are high for SS in this game. She is maintaining radar silence anticipating a back door entry on to the stage at some point later. Is a cabinet position assured to her if NDA wins?

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 08 May 2014 15:52

Dilbu wrote:Stakes are high for SS in this game. She is maintaining radar silence anticipating a back door entry on to the stage at some point later. Is a cabinet position assured to her if NDA wins?

There was some twitter chatter about health related issues for SS.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 08 May 2014 15:56

MMJ has requested RSS to ensure respectable portfolio will be given to the 'veteran' leaders. I say let those leaders rot w/o any post. You got what you wanted in 1999. This time you must earn. Understant?

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 08 May 2014 16:22

abhijitm wrote:MMJ has requested RSS to ensure respectable portfolio will be given to the 'veteran' leaders. I say let those leaders rot w/o any post. You got what you wanted in 1999. This time you must earn. Understant?

As the Arabs say, better to have the camel inside the tent peeing out instead of outside peeing in. At least in the beginning, this may be important.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 08 May 2014 16:32

NM will ensure people like MMJ will be given highly respectable post with little power and put good junior ministers. Expect ganga- Kaveri link project like thing under him with people like Varun Gandhi or MS Mahajan under him.

AJ can anyday replaced by Minakshi Lekhi but the problem is she is too hardliner with serious 'problem" of being having Sitaram Goel ideas. Not afraid at all.

I see in her future PM material with a single "problem" of possible reading of Sitaram Goel books too well.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 08 May 2014 16:37

AjayKK wrote:Is AJ totally indispensable in the current scenario, he is simply everywhere. If Smriti Irani rises to take over reins from Sushma, isn't there another person who can replace AJ as well?

he was the person who offered his house-keys to amit shah when he was forced out of gujarat by SC.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 08 May 2014 16:45

AJ has longstanding ABVP, BJP, RSS background. He can not be mistrusted just because he lives in Delhi. At one point he was tipped as a future PM material by BJP. Later slowly became backroom gay of BJP and help election management of NM earlier in Gujarath. Quite good at that also.

We are truly missing Pramod Mahajan. With all his faults, had he been there to support NM we might be looking at 400 plus. In fact even 2009 might have a different result.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 08 May 2014 16:52

SPattath wrote:There is an Modi interview with Arnab tonite at 9pm IST on Times Now.

arnab doed not deserve it. Anyway why show today instead of 11th?

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 08 May 2014 16:58

Narayana Rao wrote:We are truly missing Pramod Mahajan. With all his faults, had he been there to support NM we might be looking at 400 plus. In fact even 2009 might have a different result.

Pramod Mahajan had his own PM ambitions. He would not have backed Modi. In fact, he would have been a far more formidable rival of Modi inside the BJP than the D4 have been.

JMHO

James B · Post by **James B** » 08 May 2014 17:42

Modi & boys turned the adversity into a strength. People are thronging street to see Modi while he is driving through from Helipad to BJP office. All the media staked out on buildings etc wherever they get a good vantage position.

Don't worry, he is in a bullet proof car and he is not popping his head out. So I think its safe.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 08 May 2014 17:55

Serious security has to be in place now. In the last stages and we are winning mafia can do all kinds of things.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 08 May 2014 17:56

NikhilB wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Just triple checking with gurus here. Varanasi is a guaranteed win for Modi right? Is the drama for the rest of UP?
Three guess theories from my side:

1. It's to ensure that EC remains on toes especially for eastern Bengal region and avoid rigging. It's kind of OUT appeal to Umpire to ensure Umpire doesn't give undue Wide ball. If you constantly hammer EC about being biased, they have to at least show that they are unbiased for remaining phase.

2. It's to ensure that NaMo remains in news despite rally from Pappu. NaMo has managed to steal show on almost every election day. Momentum can pick up.

3. Third is Dhoti-shiver theory. BJP might have come to know that the numbers are less than expected, so this is kind of honorable acceptance strategy to justify low number of seats on May 16 by saying "see, I told you so earlier. CEC is compromised"

# 2 & 3 makes more sense.

-M

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 08 May 2014 18:05

I wish Modi b-slaps Arnab, and poor Arnab the little bully goes to his mommy crying.

I think this is a bad move by Modi. So late in the game. No use, no benefits. Except providing perverse pleasure of Modi molesting doorknob.

member_28025 · Post by **member_28025** » 08 May 2014 18:06

Mihaylo wrote: Three guess theories from my side:

1. It's to ensure that EC remains on toes especially for eastern Bengal region and avoid rigging. It's kind of OUT appeal to Umpire to ensure Umpire doesn't give undue Wide ball. If you constantly hammer EC about being biased, they have to at least show that they are unbiased for remaining phase.

2. It's to ensure that NaMo remains in news despite rally from Pappu. NaMo has managed to steal show on almost every election day. Momentum can pick up.

3. Third is Dhoti-shiver theory. BJP might have come to know that the numbers are less than expected, so this is kind of honorable acceptance strategy to justify low number of seats on May 16 by saying "see, I told you so earlier. CEC is compromised"

# 2 & 3 makes more sense.

-M[/quote]

Another reason could be to make this as an excuse to get rid of the current EC once BJP is in power.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 08 May 2014 18:13

SwamyG wrote:I wish Modi b-slaps Arnab, and poor Arnab the little bully goes to his mommy crying.

I think this is a bad move by Modi. So late in the game. No use, no benefits. Except the providing perverse pleasure of Modi molesting doorknob.

I saw some excerpts of the talk. Arnab specs in musicians"A" scale in a subdued tone like a cat.
He asks about "neech rajniti" remark. Modi replies he answered exactly as he translated in Gujrati. He also talks about toilet (not newspaper) paper swindling during CWG, Nirbhaya fund.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 08 May 2014 18:15

Arnab: will you continue with talks with pakis even if there are cease fire violations
Modi: bum aur pistol ki awaz ke beech talks sunai deti hai kya

More thappads in store

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 08 May 2014 18:25

As I said, the only benefit is for us Modi fanbois to see thappads. The last 41 seats does not require giving the bully something to brag about the rest of his life. The caste politics and Rama photo is enough to further polarize the people. Already the vikas, susashan ityadi is catching like fire.

I do see another benefit though, Modi probably needs a friend once he forms the government. As a PM the cannot do things that he can do now nor can he do like AK49. So he needs to cultivate somebody, plus he needs to split the MSM.

But truthfully, I cannot digest that AnnaGooseswami is going to crow the rest of his life about bragging Rahul and Modi's interviews. That unpleasant thought biases my opinion. Maybe that is why I am not a politician, don't have the ability to digest morons. The last 10 days, chorknob was blasting BJP, and now he gets the interview of his life.

Emotions Saar, all emotions. Did you see Arnab's face when asking those questions. WTF? He thinks he is some god sent avatar to help Indian journalism. I hope Modi puts him in his place. That will be the joy.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 08 May 2014 18:27

It's an old, old practice. It started in the US during the early 70s. Each day anew soundbyte to dominate that evening's new cycle.

Marketing 101: dominate the conversation through ubiquity and predispose the audience to recognizing your product on the shelf.

James B · Post by **James B** » 08 May 2014 18:28

This should be displayed everywhere in Varanasi to show what is possible if Modi becomes MP from Varanasi & PM of India

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 08 May 2014 18:32

Arnab is only start, soon we will see NaMo giving ivirw to rajdeep & BDutt. I suspected this 3 days back on this thread.
There is no self respect in BJP either. Atleast NaMo sould have avoided Times House.
Amit Shah is already talking to BDutt who has bashed Guj like anything in past

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 08 May 2014 18:33

Cosmo_R wrote:It's an old, old practice. It started in the US during the early 70s. Each day anew soundbyte to dominate that evening's new cycle.

Marketing 101: dominate the conversation through ubiquity and predispose the audience to recognizing your product on the shelf.

at the cost of self re4spect? No onder that semi terrorist JD(U) guy Sabir Ali was being taken in