Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 11 May 2014 08:37

Jhujar wrote: Modi Victory wil quench the centuries long thirst of Sons of Soil. He is but a man but changes , awarenss, hope he brought are no less than mirculous. He has set certain things in motion which once realized will have Yuga scale impact.

This is IMO the biggest gift Modi has given to India. I have said before that 80% of his to-do A-list is done already. With or without him, the things that he has set in motion are irreversible and the repercussion will be yuga scale indeed.

His enemies best hope, in fact, is that he remains the leader of this express train. Almost anyone else will be like a hammer compared to his scalpel.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 11 May 2014 08:46

Rahul Mehta, pls don't get into old habits... I was cautioning those who derided RRajan as you well know. I was cautioning you as well. If every post you make is about YOUR solution to India's problems, it gets tiresome... Stand for election then and test your mettle. The people will decide no? Why harass Brfites who are giving u a free platform and your own thread.....just go easy on the relentless prescriptions boss, that's all I'm saying...

Look as far as I'm concerned you are a decent bloke who never actually broke forum rules from what I remember. Perhaps I overreacted. And if I offended you I take it back with apologies. Everyone has a right to be heard.

vic · Post by **vic** » 11 May 2014 09:08

If RM decides to limit himself to one post a day then I think it is reasonable. Having said that I agree with his analysis that lack of reform in Hinduism is leading to our downfall compared to Christanity and Islam.

Najunamar · Post by **Najunamar** » 11 May 2014 09:47

I am really anxious - people in TN still believe the lies that the DIEnasty group peddles (even my own parents

) Only Krishna's sudharshana chakra is needed now, to get rid of the aDharmics

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 11 May 2014 09:54

Namo has put this on his fb page

After addressing final campaign rally came to seek Atal ji's blessings. Had met him when campaign started. Its always special to meet him.

--

https://www.facebook.com/narendramodi

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 11 May 2014 10:08

Opponents of Indic thpught should remember that like the proverbial Alif Laila story, Namo, would look like MK Gandhi as compared to the next leader of Indic right if we are oppressed and suppressed by the govt in power like Sonia Maino Gandhi and MMS govt has done.
It is nature of the politics that throws up leaders for the day and any artificial suppression or division of Hindu thought will result in more efforts towards subfusing the Hindu might.
Narendra Modi is the result of so many decades of steamrolling the Hindus of this country starting right from MK Gandhi's ludicrous preachings to Communal Violence bill of 2013 by Seckular forces.
Like one poster said, The wheels have been set in motion thanks to Jan-Jagriti by NaMo and now all it needs is the push by hoi polloi

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 May 2014 10:25

Recommended read on the future of political campaigning in India.

Maximum Campaign: Modi unleashes a blitzkrieg never seen before in Indian electoral history

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 11 May 2014 11:18

Hari sir, coming to your place next week may be.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 May 2014 11:33

^ Awesome N garu. Na mumberu undi kada, just give a call. Weekend is ideal, a busy week workwise on weekdays.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 11 May 2014 12:30

The NYT propagandu mentions the Aryan race to subtly draw parallels between RSS and the Nazis. Anyone addociated with the NYT editorial team should be automatically banned from India, including its correspondents. They are rabid Hindu haters and there is no need to mollycoddle them.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 11 May 2014 13:00

Cosmo_R wrote:
ashish raval wrote:
Agree. He is brilliant economist and right person for the job. Inflation kills and I agree with his strategy.
True most the time. However, deflation is far worse. Today, Japan gets giddy when inflation rises Reason? people buy today what they would have postponed till tomorrow because in a deflationary environment it will be cheaper.

Deflation kills economic growth. Even zero inflation is conducive to growth. Some inflation is desirable.

Deflation will never happen in a country which is very less developed like India. In fact, I don't recall this has happened in my lifetime or my parents lifetime in India. May be once temporarily around 1978. So comparing with Japan is not very apt here. Secondly, India is not export powerhouse like Japan or neither developed like Japan, nor faces competition from China, Taiwan and south Korea in its traditional exports and thirdly India does not have declining population issue. If inflation is high savings are worth nothing, ten percent rise is wage is nothing unless both person in households work and both have an average ten percent rise in income every year, house price rises will be even faster. In fact everything becomes expensive and savings decline overall. It can give short term shot to nation but it cannot sustain long term growth and it comes like drug addiction. Good savings will help people retire with good pensions and spend the money too.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 11 May 2014 13:04

Hari Seldon wrote:Recommended read on the future of political campaigning in India.

Maximum Campaign: Modi unleashes a blitzkrieg never seen before in Indian electoral history

I read it earlier today. This admiring article from India Today is probably the result of the exit poll data showing a big NDA win.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 11 May 2014 13:15

Hari Seldon wrote:Recommended read on the future of political campaigning in India.

Maximum Campaign: Modi unleashes a blitzkrieg never seen before in Indian electoral history

From the article:

Root for Modi or reject him, the way India's most controversial mass leader managed to create a personality cult in one short year will forever change how elections are fought in this country.

Strange isn't it, how all political opponents of Congress party become "controversial." The higher the opponent, the more controversial he is declared to be. While Amit Shah is merely "controversial," Modi is now the "most controversial."

niran · Post by **niran** » 11 May 2014 13:29

BJP is ready for battle of Purvanchal, the army is replenished all personals have there weapons err battle plans/gadgets/food/water complete with places to be and wat to do whom to contact etc.

there are are about 15000 (ain't a typo) Amethia Thakurs( a very convulsed history ) voters spread over 54 villages in Salempur LS constituency they have pledged support for NaMo around 11000 are expected to vote.

all UP seats in UP except Azamgarh is in 90% zone in favor of BJP. contrary to MSM hogwash Mohtarma Patel is also in 90% zone in Mirzapur.

once again contrary to MSM telecasts in Varanasi it is NaMo NaMo all the way the onree unknown is the margin of win.

on 12th will discharge me constitutional dooty aid people to vote and file me report and by evening 13th will be back to me normal life of relieving
people of their money (for RKM onree.)

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 May 2014 13:52

BJP could curb beef exports if voted to power

Surprisingly in a country where so many view cows as sacred, India has been poised to become the No.1 beef exporting nation, supplying markets such as Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and Egypt.

About effing time too.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 11 May 2014 13:53

Niran, thanks for your work and your updates!

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 11 May 2014 14:06

Sashtang pranams Niranji

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 11 May 2014 14:18

beef exports would surely have exploded during UPA rule, even mananiya Nyay mantri wifes name is part share of such a plant in faridabad. powerful ppl often use their wife's name to park assets as that can be handled separately for accounting and visibility purposes.

BhairavP · Post by **BhairavP** » 11 May 2014 14:54

And the name used to be Arihant Exports, sacred to Jains, until forced to change via PIL to.... Arshiya! How secular on Lee...

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 11 May 2014 15:07

vic wrote:If RM decides to limit himself to one post a day then I think it is reasonable. Having said that I agree with his analysis that lack of reform in Hinduism is leading to our downfall compared to Christanity and Islam.

Saar, I think it IS the other way round! The ease with which hindus abandon their heritage and inculcate "other" habits is what is causing the downfall. Neither of the 2 groups you mentioned are like that. I have a few close (& good) christian friends who never miss church on sunday or on special days (like easter/christmas). The same goes for Muslims who stick to their faith come what may. It is only the hindus who are blindly aping the west that are facing this problem. I know a hindu whos parents are strict vegetarians (I mean stict to the point of no egg - no eating in restaurants that do veg & non-veg)... yet this person eats everything .. inc beef. Just stick to your own culture and don't abandon it as soon as something fancy appears in front of you is what I would advise everyone.

saumitra_j · Post by **saumitra_j** » 11 May 2014 15:30

Niranji, thanks for all the good work and updates!

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 11 May 2014 15:38

>>Having said that I agree with his analysis that lack of reform in Hinduism is leading to our downfall compared to Christanity and Islam.

I completely disagree. If anything, what we call "Hinduism" is the most reformed and reformable faith system. That is at least one of the secrets of its survival as the longest continuously practiced faith.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 11 May 2014 16:08

As the elections draw to close and May 16th draws closer. I can't help remembering poster 'Sushupti'. Couple of years ago I had seen first video posted by him about Subramanian Swamy and many other links which brought about a completely different ideas to me, and also how important it was for NaMo to win as last BJP had lots of dienasty helping elements in it. Hope Sushupti ji comes back and I get to read his enlightening posts.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 11 May 2014 16:55

BJP office is raided by EC. All out war now.

Shaktimaan · Post by **Shaktimaan** » 11 May 2014 17:04

Narayana Rao wrote:BJP office is raided by EC. All out war now.

So this is the road "10 Sampath" has chosen. Very well. This path leads to jail via the Coal Ghotala.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 11 May 2014 17:06

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 11 May 2014 17:16

krishnan wrote:

It is important to ask these guys to specify cost - cost to nation's stability, cost to communal harmony, cost to public property, cost to small-time AAP workers or cost to AAP leadership! What cost are they talking about?

If they produce costs for the nation, than these guys needs to be swatted like flies. Yes if they wish to go and do self-immolation or drown themselves in some town square fountain, then they are most welcome to do so!

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 11 May 2014 17:24

Karan M wrote:The NYT propagandu mentions the Aryan race to subtly draw parallels between RSS and the Nazis. Anyone associated with the NYT editorial team should be automatically banned from India, including its correspondents. They are rabid Hindu haters and there is no need to mollycoddle them.

This is a very carefully "chosen" translation. Race has a genetic connotation and so what the person is quoted as saying (some low level functionary) is unlikely. Very deliberate.

OT: Sswamy39 also makes unfounded remarks re genes and Indians (this is not the thread for them, however which one is?).

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 11 May 2014 17:30

Saral wrote:OT: Sswamy39 also makes unfounded remarks re genes and Indians (this is not the thread for them, however which one is?).

Please try the "Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth" Thread

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 11 May 2014 17:32

Karan M wrote:The NYT propagandu mentions the Aryan race to subtly draw parallels between RSS and the Nazis. Anyone associated with the NYT editorial team should be automatically banned from India, including its correspondents. They are rabid Hindu haters and there is no need to mollycoddle them.

The Hindutvavadi would have said "Ārya" in Hindi, and NYT translated that as "Aryan Race"! One needs to protest this.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 11 May 2014 17:34

Singha wrote:beef exports would surely have exploded during UPA rule, even mananiya Nyay mantri wifes name is part share of such a plant in faridabad. powerful ppl often use their wife's name to park assets as that can be handled separately for accounting and visibility purposes.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... 872923.ece
meat production doubled in last 10 yrs of Modi regiime

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 11 May 2014 17:45

IndraD wrote: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... 872923.ece
meat production doubled in last 10 yrs of Modi regiime

The Hindu is trying to be smart. Does not tell what meat is being talked about.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 11 May 2014 17:46

Had lunch with a guy well connected politically, well enough for me to trust his judgement on this issue over mine. His take is that BJP max 245, but NDA will rule, and Modi next PM. His view is that, as things stand, there's no chance of a BJP majority.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 11 May 2014 17:50

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 11 May 2014 17:53

vic wrote:If RM decides to limit himself to one post a day then I think it is reasonable. Having said that I agree with his analysis that lack of reform in Hinduism is leading to our downfall compared to Christanity and Islam.

May be OT but what lack of reform? Advent of Modi is the biggest marker of organic reform as well as Sanatana constancy. Deepest fear of followers of Christianity and Islam is that the truth about the childishness of their religion will be exposed in a world where Hindu dharma is unleashed and they will simply be outgrown.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 11 May 2014 18:03

JE Menon wrote:Had lunch with a guy well connected politically, well enough for me to trust his judgement on this issue over mine. His take is that BJP max 245, but NDA will rule, and Modi next PM. His view is that, as things stand, there's no chance of a BJP majority.

The BJP was only contesting 428 LS seats. At 272/428 is greater than 63%, even with a Modi wave of 60% that is 256 seats. We need to be realistic. Your friend is correct with a max of 245.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 11 May 2014 18:09

SanjayC wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:Recommended read on the future of political campaigning in India.

Maximum Campaign: Modi unleashes a blitzkrieg never seen before in Indian electoral history
From the article:
Root for Modi or reject him, the way India's most controversial mass leader managed to create a personality cult in one short year will forever change how elections are fought in this country.
Strange isn't it, how all political opponents of Congress party become "controversial." The higher the opponent, the more controversial he is declared to be. While Amit Shah is merely "controversial," Modi is now the "most controversial."

Old formulas like communist-derived "personality cult" don't apply here. Modi is a competent, hardworking and smart chief executive who is infused with Indic ideal of humility and service. He can be beloved and admired but can and will be fired if he doesn't meet expectations. DIE and their western counterparts won't get this.

The only personality cult is his enemies' obsessive hatred of Modi.

shyamoo · Post by **shyamoo** » 11 May 2014 18:11

IndraD wrote:

10 others? I thought termites came out in the 100s/1000s

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 11 May 2014 18:20

“I Will Break the Delhi Cabal of Status Quoists”

http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/ ... us-quoists

Look at what’s happening in the Capital; Delhi is being controlled by a cabal that has vested interests in the status quo. I will break the status quo. That must be making them uncomfortable and prompting them to level unsubstantiated charges against me.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 11 May 2014 19:00

News channels discussing the NaMo "cabinet" -- seems like even the pretence is gone.