Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 11 May 2014 19:20

Suresh En ‏@surnell 8h

EC Bramha favoured a 5-phase poll, Zaidi and Sampath ganged up to ensure it was a 9-phase. Diluting Anti-CONgi wave. Forgot Pro-Modi Wave

kNOw Kejriwal ‏@kNOwKejriwal 1h

Breaking! IB has declared alert on AAP. They have released a report that AAP workers are planning riots in Varanasi! pic.twitter.com/5BeXr52D1J

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 11 May 2014 19:31

krishnan wrote:

Apparently , ECI talked about one Polling Station only where RaGa was seen inside Voting Compartment however there were two other booths including the one in this picture where RaGa was photographed inside Polling station, not inside Voting Compartment, and EVM was supposedly working. However , to make position clear , as EC has correctly told, RaGa was not at fault, to be fair to him if EVM was not working.

If EVM is working and voting is in progress then no one except the voter has right to go to Voting compartment for casting his vote.
Polling Agents of a booth for candidate represents him and observes polling process, disputes identity of voters, certifies Mock poll and proper functioning of EVM before it is used during poll. Candidate has right to visit all polling stations of his constituency , but without security cover as police is not allowed inside Polling Booth.They must remain out side the door of the Polling Booth and manage the queue if needed. Candidate can enter the booth and see the process without disturbing the polling process.

What happens when EVM is not functioning. Polling can not progress. Voters who want to cast the vote and have signed on the register and about to proceed to the voting compartment can only remain inside the Polling Booth. Others will be stopped at the door. Now a replacement EVM will be brought ( BU+CUs as the case may be) and again Mock poll is conducted and EVM is verified by Polling agents present. if candidate is present then he may also verify EVM. When Poll is not progressing due to EVM malfunction , Mock poll has to be conducted by putting Ballot Unit inside Voting Compartment and Polling agents ( candidate) are asked to press the buttons. Guidelines says that 50 times button has to be pressed of which buttons for candidates have to be pressed at least 30 times and NOTA 20 times and then tally is made for each button. Polling agents certifies the mock poll and then EVM is sealed with their signatures along with Presiding officers before Polling begins. At which time Polling agents withdraws to their designated seats.

Now if in that particular Polling station, EVM was not functioning then other processes would be ongoing regarding replacement of EVM and Polling agents or candidate could be seen in the Voting compartment.

However , if Poll was progressing then except voter no one has tight to be present inside the voting cmpt but candidate can always remain present inside the polling station without disturbing the poll process.

So not much should be made out of this except scoring brownie points and that has been achieved. However , if it could be proved that Voting was in progress then certainly a serious offense is made out.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 11 May 2014 19:42

SwamyG wrote:Is Arnab conducting a postmortem already So everyone knows is acknowledging Congress is losing, and BJP is winning. It boils down to how many seats BJP wins.

By the way, this Rahul Narvekar is pathetic.

Turncoats are always pathetic.Their arguments lack credibility.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 11 May 2014 19:43

Dilbu wrote:Wtf is there to close? Is keeping poll material in campaign office a crime? EC has seriously lost it this time.

I think DM /RO of VNS has been pulled up by Praveen Kumar Special Observer. And therefore all this drama.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 11 May 2014 20:01

Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant 5h

If the polls are right, Sonia after 16 yrs as prez would have taken Congress from 131 in 1998 to around 80 in 2014

Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant 5h

EC raid on BJP's Varanasi office may only reinforce perception of bias & ironically boost BJP's voteshare tomorrow

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 11 May 2014 20:26

DM Banaras yes the elite eyeyetian Yadav ji held a press conf hurriedly where he said no objectionable material was recovered from BJP Banaras office and material shall be returned after election

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 11 May 2014 20:40

this 5forty3.in login process sucks. I've got a login there, I changed my password today and promptly it does not allow me to access the content.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 11 May 2014 20:41

The combination of the mullahs of Banaras openly backing AAP and the EC raiding BJP office (and not any others) should help BJP tomorrow. Polarization + victimization.

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 11 May 2014 20:47

Victor wrote:The combination of the mullahs of Banaras openly backing AAP ....

Is this on news? Links, please?

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 11 May 2014 20:51

AAP is their first choice IMHO
On TV iviews I have seen most muslims talking in his favour rather than Shehzade, in Banaras

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 11 May 2014 21:09

vinod wrote:
Victor wrote:The combination of the mullahs of Banaras openly backing AAP ....
Is this on news? Links, please?

Mufti Board of Varanasi Says Vote for Arvind Kejriwal

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 11 May 2014 21:30

Varanasi: Why many Muslims find hope in Narendra Modi

mid all talk of communal polarization and the Muslim antipathy towards Narendra Modi, a section of the community has been working silently to ensure the latter’s victory in Varanasi. The young Muslim men and women campaigning for Modi in the walled-city part of the Hindu religious centre offer an interesting insight into the changing mindset in the community, which for long followed the diktats of religious leaders while making its political choice.

“A new perception has emerged amongst the Muslims. They now want to vote for development, unlike in the past. Narendra Modi has emerged as a new political icon on whom many Muslims feel they can depend on,” says Dr Iftikhar Ahmed Javed, an educationist, who runs a school amongst weavers in Bajardiah.

OUCH! OUCH OUCH! AAPtards have to now commit suicide

The BJP is pinning hopes on the weavers’ community of Muslims (Ansaris). Modi has promised to rejuvenate their dying handlooms. “A large number of weavers have already migrated to Surat. Considering the better condition of Muslim weavers in Gujarat, we’ve decided to vote for Modi as he may bring a change,” says Iqbal Ahmed Ansari, a fourth generation weaver from Bajardiah. But, he feels that other BJP leaders should also extend a hand towards Muslims, without harbouring misconception that Muslims won’t vote for the party.

A big chunk of support for Modi from the community has come from its women. It was evident on 8 May when Modi’s cavalcade passed through the highly sensitive Muslim-dominated Madanpura. “I’ve never seen such a tremendous response to a political rally like that of Modi’s. Women and children came out on streets, stood at roof tops to have his glimpse and showered petals and Itra (perfume) on him,” recalls Madanpura resident Afsana Begum. Though it’s difficult to say how much of it would get converted into votes for Modi, a big credit for this paradigm shift goes to two Muslim women in their twenties, who both hold a master’s degree in Conflict Management from the Banaras Hindu University (BHU).

One of them, Najma Parveen is the president of the Bhartiya Awam Party (BAP), an all-women’s political party, which claims more than 35,000 members, with 90% women and 10% reserved for men. BAP works towards creating political awareness among Muslim women and salutes Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose as its ideal. “We’re not contesting the election this time but supporting Modiji for which we’re mobilising Muslims to vote for him, and also trying to wash-off rumours spread against him by other political parties,” says Parveen

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 11 May 2014 21:58

IndraD wrote:that political party guy's site is projecting 300+ for NDA?

which one.
PLease post projections low and high from conservative sources. I am getting nervous

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 11 May 2014 22:00

VikasRaina wrote:^ 6 seats ? so many ? From where Saar?
Other than C'garh and KK seat, where else are they even in play ?
Can't see them getting more than 3 seats and that is a very brave estimate.

The high end estimate of Khujli party is 6 seats. The final could be 0-6 seats with Khujli Baba himself losing by a big margin. Right after the election even if sAAP has 2-3 seats they must be encouraged "hook or crook" to leave the sAAP and join some other party and essentially closing down the Khujli party permanently

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 11 May 2014 22:03

On the GJP thread, NDA numbers go from 200 to 300+ with median at 262; so anything above 262 would be over-performance and anything less would be under-performance. If NDA < 200, then we can go into mourning

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 11 May 2014 22:10

Folks, at this point the 543 guy has projected 277 seats for NDA from phases 1-8. He forecast 130 seats for phases up to and including Apr 17. Thereafter he forecast 60 seats on Apr 24, 50 on Apr 30, and 37 for May 7. That is all assuming his "down-adjustments" of NDA vote share.

I personally am assuming that NDA has crossed 272 in Phase 8 and will reach 300-320 in Phase 9. This is independent of the 543 guy but quite consistent with his predictions.

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 11 May 2014 22:27

muraliravi wrote:http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/bjp ... n-nw-india
HP 2:2
Haryana, cong 3, BJP 5, INLD 2, HJC 0
PB: Cong 7, Akali 3, BJP 1, AAP 2

Where is the 20% vote share of AAP coming from? Mostly Congress, Akali/BJP or BSP? With such a huge vote share usually one would expect one of the existing parties to get decimated in the final numbers game.

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 11 May 2014 22:34

Gurus I have created a google spreadsheet for analyzing 2014 election results. Please have a look. Request you all to chip in on 16th May and fill up constituency-wise actual vote numbers for different parties. Thanks .

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Manu · Post by **Manu** » 11 May 2014 22:40

JE Menon wrote:Holy crap... was not aware that Kamalnath was involved in the 1984 riots... Let me ask uncle google for details...

Gurudwara Rakabganj Sahib (historical 1780s Gurudwara, Guru Tegh Bahadur ji was cremated <not to be confused with Sis Ganj >here after murder by Aurangzeb). Right in Central Delhi, very close to parliament - Pin Code is 110001.
Besides, he is one of the most corrupt ministers in UPA, and considering that this is UPA I'm talking about, that's realy saying something.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 11 May 2014 22:59

IndraD wrote:AAP is their first choice IMHO
On TV iviews I have seen most muslims talking in his favour rather than Shehzade, in Banaras

Truly what AAP stands for: America Allah Pakistan

-M

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 11 May 2014 23:33

Does anybody know, what happened to this case - did the EC act on it?

Malfunctioning EVM that transferred votes to Congress found in Sindhudurg

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 12 May 2014 00:07

Manu wrote:
JE Menon wrote:Holy crap... was not aware that Kamalnath was involved in the 1984 riots... Let me ask uncle google for details...
Gurudwara Rakabganj Sahib (historical 1780s Gurudwara, Guru Tegh Bahadur ji was cremated <not to be confused with Sis Ganj >here after murder by Aurangzeb). Right in Central Delhi, very close to parliament - Pin Code is 110001.
Besides, he is one of the most corrupt ministers in UPA, and considering that this is UPA I'm talking about, that's realy saying something.

+1 there is a case filed against him in the US

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 12 May 2014 00:19

Shishir Gupta ‏@sisir_gupta 14m
I am told that main exit polls tomorrow will even be a shocker for Modi supporters.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 12 May 2014 01:06

every one teases and makes me tense every second. I have hair to worry about

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 12 May 2014 01:11

RajeshA wrote:
Shishir Gupta ‏@sisir_gupta 14m
I am told that main exit polls tomorrow will even be a shocker for Modi supporters.

Shocking in what sense? pleasantly or unpleasant?

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 12 May 2014 01:18

Even be suggests pleasant.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 12 May 2014 01:19

The only thing that will shock AAP, UPA and BJP at the same time is a 350 or 400 plus figure..

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 12 May 2014 01:20

suryag wrote:

Shocking in what sense? pleasantly or unpleasant?

Check his tweet replies, he says surprise in +++ direction

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 12 May 2014 01:26

Unpleasantly pleasant

Narendra Modi will lose onlee.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 12 May 2014 01:41

one of friends who is hardcore congy told me there was amazing RSS cadre mobilization in UP, Bihar, unseen before. They worked day & night, no party stands closer in grass root connect against BJP

shyamoo · Post by **shyamoo** » 12 May 2014 01:50

vivek.rao wrote:every one teases and makes me tense every second. I have hair to worry about

Hair today, gone tomorrow.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 12 May 2014 01:59

"OT

considering the month long agonising elections schedule, I have maintained my sanity

at high cost.

not able to post well and also not tweet as well.

saving grace is the punishing work for the last 1 month.
now it is going to end on 14th evening.

holidays for the next week--- chai biskoot-pakodas. yes I have bought all Gujarati snacks stored in freezer for the outcome.

shq and inlaws surprised by the Gujju snacks.

I have not told them why I took the 1 month workload-

--luckily my friend became a dad explained in that way to work for his paternity leave also SHQ relatives landing at my abode on 20th.

looks like stars are aligning well for me to take the workload.
"OT

side effects--- shq making lot of noises day in day out about me trying to log in to kamputer all the time to catch brf news, checking my fone etc.
says moi afflicted by Modi disease vagehra vagera.

Praying to Vigneshwara to remove all obstacles in the path of NaMo to pave for his victory.

abki baar Modi sarkaar.
bar bar har baaar Dharmicc/Indic saarkaar.

Vamsee · Post by **Vamsee** » 12 May 2014 02:49

Pleasant.
In subsequent tweet he clarified that

Also one more tweet by someone who said that 2 exist polls will project outright majority for NDA

One could be Hansa/NDTV not sure about the other. Could be CSDS.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 12 May 2014 03:06

The mobilisation by the RSS/BJP cadre has been amazing.No other party can come close to what it has done.As a friend candidly told me, The "Hindu is a lazy voter.He votes when he feels like it,sometimes considering it distasteful to vote for one crook to replace another"! However,the Muslims if they set their minds to it,and are pressurised to do so,vote as a bloc/votebank.But in this election,what the RSS/BJP cadre have done is to get the "Hindu" voter out to go and vote,no matter who he votes for.That is one vote reason why we are seeing this phenomenal increase in the voting %age. Even if only 75% of the "Hndu" voters for the BJP and Mr.Modi,the plan would've succeeded.

This is why in the last phases of the campaign,the Congress/UPA and "turd front" rump,have been communalising the election to the max. extent,with Clown Prince "Rahulji" making absurd allegations that "if Modi is elected 20,00 will die".But then he is far off the mark.More than 20,000 people in India die of natural causes! Where did he learn his maths and stats from? This communalisation is also the Kejriwal tactic in Varanasi.This shameless Ford Foundation funded quisling,has taken communal votebank policies to such a nauseating level and has poisoned relations to an extent between the two major communities.Kejriwal must be carefully tracked in the future as he has all the characteristics to be another "Jinnah" in the making,playing his cards as dictated by his western masters.

Even the most dire predictions for the NDA givt it at least 250 seats,needing just another couple of dozen power hungry allies to join the bandwagon.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 12 May 2014 03:16

This is election related albeit as an example of the loony left wing drawing room liberals:

http://liveblogs.indiatimes.com/politic ... her-brood/

Some of the stellar excerpts:

"She is told the key word is ‘development’, but she wants to know: development at what cost? Whose development? What kind of development ? Would it mean some of her children will benefit and others won’t ? If so, she is not comfortable with plans that exclude large segments of her family."

A couple of things:

1. Mother's Day is an invention of the Hallmark Card Company
2. The cost of no or even little development is much larger than her 'at what cost'?
3. You can only include those who want to be included on a set of terms that apply to all.

Shows you that facial carpentry and perfect dental implants do not lead to any new insights.

This woman along with one Bacchi Karkaria should be barred from writing.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 12 May 2014 03:48

Over the last week, I have heard from multiple sources about extreme levels of vote rigging by the TMC in WB - at these levels, it is questionable, whether any form of democracy actually exists in the state. Truly disappointing.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 12 May 2014 03:59

good article on news traders

9 ways the media brought Priyanka centre stage

'The beauty is that when media says it is real, people start believing it as real. Priyanka Gandhi, from a background image is now a larger-than-life hoarding.'

'From Arvind Kejriwal to Priyanka, this has been a media-determined election. Two forces stand poised, the people inventing new politics and the media inventing its own version of that politics,' says Shiv Visvanathan.

read in full

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 12 May 2014 04:08

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 12 May 2014 04:10

Not in Urdu, in Hindi?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 May 2014 04:17

Why was Derek O'Brien so disgusted at Subramanian Swamy on Arnab's show, when swamy said India is a murthy-pooja society. Pawan Verma was astonished too? Because Swamy said worshiping was ok? Does Swamy read BRF:-)