Marten wrote:OT: Poor Vina saar - being hounded by the Sanghis on this forum. You're the perfect Brumby sort of fella now.
Wow.. didnt realize exposing anti-nationals who provide ideological and politcal space to separatists and maoists - makes one "sanghi".
Marten Saar is exit-pollster of Sanghis
Majority of forum members take pride to be called 'Sanghis'. One will not get that title unless they went thru few warnings/bans for being communalists.
Narayana Rao wrote: What he is seeing is the Hindu v/s Muslim voting in UP and Bihar and NM is being chanted in remote villages of UP and BJP winning in places which no one predicting it will win. .
That is a sad dynamic if it was true. While I do agree that the UPA dispensation must be thrown out of office, I am disquieted with this kind of dynamic.
This hypocrite, Vina, was hoping Muslims would polarize en-bloc against Modi, and had even justified it in one of his earlier posts in the elections threads:
vina wrote:Note. Muslims voting against folks pissing them off is a perfectly legitimate democratic right and the best way to register disapproval. Nothing more majestic and lawful than that !
So Vina believes there's nothing more "majestic" than Muslim polarization, but Hindu counter-polarization is 'disquieting' and a 'sad dynamic' !!
Delusional is what it is. As I said, some folks think Hindus should be nice little dhimmis. Never stand up for themselves. Somehow the burden of being "peaceful" should always fall on Hindus. Never mind whatever they suffer from more rabid sorts.
What a bunch of BS.
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The recent shameful episode of the "Law Minister" of Delhi leading a mob that despite the Police's refusal to act (all respect to the Police, they were acting lawfully), barged into a house with 4 African women, encircled them, made them forcefully give a urine sample in public, hauled them away to AIIMS for a cavity search .
The AAP is disintegrating sooner than expected. Less than a month in power, and these guys are exposed for what they are. A rabble rousing mob, with nothing going for them other than a sense of outrage and sanctimoniousness.
BTW guess who wrote the above in the first post in the AAP, A Mob? thread?
That is because vina saar, being the smart iitian he is ( ), realized that AAP was killing congis more than the lotus. hence his righteous wrath at that time when he thought the panja still had a chance. now that panja has become a trash, the vina saars of the world will have to find a new shtick. hence the renewed love of aap.
In fact, this election - if BJP comes in - should hopefully provide a strong slap on the face of all those peacefuls and their leaders who had grown arrogant over the past 60 years thinking that they were destined to rule over India and their votebank was all powerful. I hope their votebank becomes more and more irrelevant, so they are forced to accomodate with the majority and join the mainstream. The toxic politics of appeasement have only made them arrogant and prone to violence stoking communal fires and anti national activity, all in the guise of being "disadvantaged, perpetual victims". The entire history of Islam and the EJs in India has been whitewashed to boot. If they have to join the mainstream, they have to understand and work with the majority, introspect and attempt to change their own communal behavior, not sit in their ghettos and ivory towers and behave as sheep led by rabid maulanas and padres constantly exhorting them to vote for the faith. Appeasement has not worked and its high time it was stopped. Uniform civil code for all Indians, irrespective of faith, and equal rights and responsibilities.
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niran wrote:me was present in Gaziabad (nah, could not shake hands with General janab he was too busy and me is too lowly)
voters in the city proper acted kinda like oh! the weather too hot! me make has melted!me will get Sun burn! and they would look around ascertain
the questioner's identity before answering (chance of lies according to the questioner's identity)
the rural people were absolutely unabashed in their show of support to BJP or any other when they went in to vote or post vote, and the support pleasantly shocked veterans of 4-5 elections.
during the last phase(yesterday) was in Deoria/ Salempur both constituency are kinda rural over here out of the 55% who voted around 53%
were unabashedly openly claiming to have voted for NaMo(mind you it is for NaMo) less than 8% of eligible mainority voted and very few who supported others voted i.e. NaMo voters came out in force and non NaMo voters thought it was futile to go out and get a Sun Burn onree hard core supporters of SaPa came out Congress was not in the fight.
see my point is the reality is starkly different from MSM telecasts, on the ground TsuNaMo has swept away all at least in three constituency
which moi was physically present.
Lot of people voted for Modi and did not even know the name of their local candidates from any party including BJP. They went to polling station just to vote Modi. I personally would know atleast 100 people who cancelled their travel plans and business plans to make it a point to vote for Modi. BJP voters don't really care for anybody other than Modi.
It is heartening to see dalits have not forgotten their hindu roots. Before the election I assumed modi will face major issue in consolidating their votes but I am glad I was wrong.
>> Lot of people voted for Modi and did not even know the name of their local candidates from any party including BJP.
I myself have totally forgotten the name of the BJP candidate from bangalore central whose name was next to the button..."Mohan" I think. he never showed his face in our area, ppl went for namo only. our apt blocks recorded nearly 100% voting , incl aged but fightingy grandparents who were ferried there by their children.
Any jingo hovering around the Noida area..i will be off on Friday in time for the lungi dance with beer/popcorn... we jingos can get togther to enjoy the results... please let me know..
abhijitm wrote:It is heartening to see dalits have not forgotten their hindu roots. Before the election I assumed modi will face major issue in consolidating their votes but I am glad I was wrong.
for 60 years the congress left combine has done their best to make dalits into a votebank which does not believe its hindu. unfortunately for them, its not worked out as they wished.
Since secularism is being discussed on this thread, I couldn't stop myself from posting this interview with Prof. Nalapat about Nehruvian Secularism. I had heard about Nehruvian Socialism but this is the first time I heard about Nehruvian Secularism. What an apt definition.
Man!! Was talking to few of my ex-colleagues from Delhi yesterday and turns out they have gone out and voted for -- of all the people, RajMohan Gandhi and all because of Gandhi name.
No I didn't get into argument with them since the ballots have been cast but if AAPTurds
end up winning couple of seats in Delhi, I would know who the prime culprits were.
And these are people who are well educated, travel across world in business class, work in plush a/c offices
drive A category sedans and were congress voters all their life.
Can't do anything other than pulling my hair in desperation. What sins have we committed to deserve such voters. Sometimes I wish that they get more of Nautanki-Kejri for couple of years in Delhi.
Since he can no longer support congis because nutting is left of congis...He is moving to AAP
Lot of congis have moved to AAP and become AAptard, including many IITians, what to do.
My cousin, an IITian from Kharagpur had become an AAPtard, but looking at his recent mails, it appears he is now supporting Modi. He could not vote as his name did not figure in the voter's list.
And these are people who are well educated, travel across world in business class, work in plush a/c offices
drive A category sedans and were congress voters all their life.
I had alluded to this tangentially in the L&M discussion on the lack of women in polymath skills. the truth is men too esp in high profile itvity/finance/mkting/management roles have become very one dimensional in what they read, TOI + light airplane business/self-help books is all they read.sometimes a pulp novel. forget any serious non-fiction work in history or any issue of note. they get all their news feed from english TV + TOI. they have no time for anything outside family and work. they would not be able to change the tire on their bmws and skoda superbs. they are always on the phone.
in our fathers gen people had more time , work and pressure to succeed was not so high...you could meet many multi-dimensional people who knew a lot about the world. that generation is dying out, and all ppl care is bank balance, number of reports in the team, work, prestige, length of the sedan and sq ft of the villa.
its pretty depressing seeing the kid level of knowledge in most of colleagues. at some point their overall curiosity about the world got capped and they went into the matrix to become fit only for a few things.
whoever escaped the matrix and took the red pill found refuge in isolated islands like brf where we await the second coming of the mahdi and the day of revolution.
^^^ My test of intellectual worth of a person is to ask them: "Which non-fiction book have you read lately? Biography? History? Wars? Economics? International relations? Spirituality?" If the answer is zero, I know the guy is just a pig wearing lipstick, despite their sedans and villas.
SanjayC wrote:^^^ My test of intellectual worth of a person is to ask them: "Which non-fiction book have you read lately? Biography? History? Wars? Economics? International relations? Spirituality?" If the answer is zero, I know the guy is just a pig wearing lipstick, despite their sedans and villas.
Please don't insult pigs. Pigs are intelligent animals and know exactly what they are doing.
you are finally on the side that is supported by naxals of all hues, spearheaded by CPI ML G Sec Dipankar Bhattacharya !
never thought I would see this day but it has come !
VikramS wrote:ORG saying it did not do the poll for TimesNow.
This is sinister. TimesNow cooking exit poll numbers.
Prelude to EVM magic?
Absolutely, it's prelude to EVM magic. NDTV also "waiting" for two days to show their exit poll is suspicious -- they must be waiting for Cong orders on what numbers to show so that EVM fraud appears natural. I think they will try to reduce NDA numbers so that it is forced to take support of Jaya, Maya, etc. on condition that anyone other than Modi is acceptable as PM.
Shamlee wrote:Since secularism is being discussed on this thread, I couldn't stop myself from posting this interview with Prof. Nalapat about Nehruvian Secularism. I had heard about Nehruvian Socialism but this is the first time I heard about Nehruvian Secularism. What an apt definition.
The company that has conducted the opinion poll for Times Now is ORG India Private Limited which is not related to the organization formerly known as ORG-MARG, which merged with AC Nielsen.
vic wrote:<snip>
Lot of people voted for Modi and did not even know the name of their local candidates from any party including BJP. They went to polling station just to vote Modi. I personally would know atleast 100 people who cancelled their travel plans and business plans to make it a point to vote for Modi. BJP voters don't really care for anybody other than Modi.
make that 101 people, imagine a BJP volunteer volunteering and casting his vote gets to know/meet his candidate on the voting day
mucho embarrassment was avoided by just keeping me mouth shut.
), realized that AAP was killing congis more than the lotus. hence his righteous wrath at that time when he thought the panja still had a chance. now that panja has become a trash, the vina saars of the world will have to find a new shtick. hence the renewed love of aap.
