Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 15 May 2014 05:46

Prepare for the final assault. Tomorrow we ride to Delhi. AoA.
Namo will lose onlee.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 May 2014 05:46

If you read the sub-text that would be too lowly for her. An ambassador is lower than a Cabinet minister in rank..

I think best option for her is to become VP along side LKA.

----Good, Dilbu was waiting to hear from you!!!!

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 15 May 2014 06:15

ramana wrote:

GD's story is accurate in his depiction of the Prince!!!!

Sorry, ignorant about this: who is GD, and where is his depiction?

satishR · Post by **satishR** » 15 May 2014 06:20

MurthyB, GD (Guru Dronacharya) is the previous incarnation of Singha. I have been a lurker since 1998 and have seen many actors take new avatars as time passes. Please check Prelude to Twilight thread for the description.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 15 May 2014 06:27

IndraD wrote:@RajeshA @atri

A babu from North Block told me few days back that Sangh's clothing & appearance needs relook and needs to be made more acceptable for current gen , many padha likha elite uber youth want to join but are prevented by appearance

It is just an excuse for not getting up early in morning and going to a Shakha, nothing else saar.

No body wears khaki shorts while going to shakha. It is usually worn only during vijayadashmi parade (that too not every year). I have worn this attire of khaki shorts, white shirt and black topi just once or twice in my life. I have always worn bermudas because it is easy to run and play with them. When I grew up, it was normal jeans trousers and t-shirt.

BTW, only a sootiya will wear trousers for the game of kabaddi and kho kho..

khaki color of shorts is not mandatory.

khaki shorts, anyways are only for shakha. Sangh is present in in every sphere of life - from nurseries for kids to old-age homes, tribals, labor-unions, student-unions, politics, peethas and mandalas of hindu swamis and sadhus, publishers, gymnasiums, women-clubs, IT-Vity guys, NRIs: you name a sphere of life and most probably sangh has an org in that sphere to bring ppl together for a cause. In all these, one does not see khaki shorts. Its ppl in normal (as in the clothing which is considered normal in current space and time) clothes doing all the work. Sangh is all that.

the most important thing in sangh, at least according to me, is allegiance to Bhagwa dhvaja and a big laathi of solid bambu/wood in hand. Rest does not matter.

learning to fight with Laathis is one of my best memories of childhood.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 15 May 2014 06:28

S.Swami tweeted its was Cocaine which made Paapu miss the Dinner.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 15 May 2014 06:38

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 15 May 2014 06:42

Pappu did not attended mms send off dinner or what ever. Said to be out of town. No respect for elders. Whereas nm visited and touched the feet of Keshubhai after winning. That is the difference between them. Respect for people even where they fought against you and disrespect to elder who allowed massive loot by your family.

In a way mms deserves this. Hope he ends up jail for Coalgate.

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 15 May 2014 06:46

Narayana Rao wrote:No respect for elders.

He missed the lecture on Bar-ti-yata given earlier...

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 15 May 2014 06:51

satishR wrote:MurthyB, GD (Guru Dronacharya) is the previous incarnation of Singha. I have been a lurker since 1998 and have seen many actors take new avatars as time passes. Please check Prelude to Twilight thread for the description.

Aah, thanks, wasn't aware of that or the depiction. Good depiction! The parallels to the Ottoman sultanate are striking after reading that Firstpost article on how the cong spin doctoring machinery works. There was another article that analyzed Thapar's fawning over Priyanka in his HT article, even though that lass has hardly said one intelligent thing. The plot is blatant and naked.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 15 May 2014 06:53

Narayana Rao wrote:Pappu did not attended mms send off dinner or what ever. Said to be out of town. No respect for elders. Whereas nm visited and touched the feet of Keshubhai after winning. That is the difference between them. Respect for people even where they fought against you and disrespect to elder who allowed massive loot by your family.

In a way mms deserves this. Hope he ends up jail for Coalgate.

Reported to be in Dubai with...

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 15 May 2014 07:09

RajeshA wrote:Here is one thing that is really stop NaMo from catering to all the great ideas we have on BRF.

NDA has only 64 Rajya Sabha members but needs 126 to pass bills. And BJP is not going to get enough RS MPs for a long time to come!

Using public opinion, NaMo can force LS\RS members to pass referendum act, and then he will never need to present any bill in LS\RS.

Now NaMo wont ever dare to support referendum route is another matter.

But what I meant is --- not having enough MP in RS is just an excuse, not reason.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 15 May 2014 07:41

Any one know where Pappu suddenly went? For what.is it not strange? Not even doing thing went results are coming in two three days?

Already thrown towel and enjoying life?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 May 2014 07:47

he is known to go abroad 10-15 times every yr with no visible agenda other than vacationing.
sometimes he goes to posh 5* resorts in india itself with groups of friends.

rich princes have little to do. time pass to karna hoga.

meantime the tired old line of congi spokesmen will trot out the old excuse that its never Raga's fault.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 15 May 2014 07:56

Narayana Rao wrote:Any one know where Pappu suddenly went? For what.is it not strange? Not even doing thing went results are coming in two three days?

Already thrown towel and enjoying life?

Not at all leadership material. If he is staring at defeat, then as an unofficial PM candidate from Congress, and VP of Congress he should have been bold and take it in the chin and wait till the results are announced. How can a "big" leader of Congress simply do a vanishing act just before the results? Will he return on the 16th to public glare?

Even leaders like Lalu, Mulayam, MuKa, JJ, Maya ityadi hold their ground, are brave and stoic. They do mouth stupid things, like Lalu claiming he will win 40 seats in Bihar now. But at least the leader is visible to the party cadres. This dude, RG, is not to be seen.

He does not deserve to be any where near the power corridors, either he is totally incompetent or has some serious mental conditions. If it is the latter, I feel sorry for him. But one does not give responsibility of a country to such an individual.

Does he have any drug addiction, depression or other forms of health issues?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 May 2014 08:03

let me put it this way..whatever seats the INC wins is not due to RaGa charisma. its usual religion basis, caste basis or the candidate himself or local leadership.

INC cadres probably pray he doesnt hold a rally in their area.

as Shekhar gupta said last night in NDTV, he is deeply unpopular with the youth and 44 is not too young to avoid responsibility.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 15 May 2014 08:10

If they have even an iota of any shame or humility left in them then they should resign from their respective posts as soon as the results are formally out.

We will get to see their true character tomorrow

Singha wrote:let me put it this way..whatever seats the INC wins is not due to RaGa charisma. its usual religion basis, caste basis or the candidate himself or local leadership.

INC cadres probably pray he doesnt hold a rally in their area.

as Shekhar gupta said last night in NDTV, he is deeply unpopular with the youth and 44 is not too young to avoid responsibility.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 15 May 2014 08:12

IndraD wrote:@RajeshA @atri

A babu from North Block told me few days back that Sangh's clothing & appearance needs relook and needs to be made more acceptable for current gen , many padha likha elite uber youth want to join but are prevented by appearance

This is cent per cent true, and I can vouch for it having conducted a sampling exercise amongst a younger peer group which could move towards their own culture. Today's youth is very image conscious-repackaging RSS would work wonders, as Modi proved with his savvy campaign.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 15 May 2014 08:12

Indian elections: Impending defeat beckons the end of India's first family of politics

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 71393.html

On a blisteringly hot Friday morning in the summer of 2011, Rahul Gandhi was hiking through the fields of western Uttar Pradesh.

Dressed in traditional Indian clothes and followed closely by perspiring police bodyguards in black nylon safari suits, he brushed off suggestions that he had selected a perilously hot day to pursue his campaign march through the villages. “It’s not the hottest day of the year,” he insisted.

Later, in a 40-minute conversation with The Independent, Mr Gandhi outlined some of the changes he wanted to bring to India. He talked about spreading democracy at the village level, the need for inclusive development, and about anti-corruption activist Anna Hazare whose supporters had recently protested in Delhi.

Mr Gandhi, who was campaigning ahead of state elections the following year, was earnest and pleasant. The only question that caught him off guard was when it was suggested that for all his talk of spreading democracy, people in the villages received very little from politicians such as himself.

Reeling on the spot, Mr Gandhi, his sunburned face bearing several days of stubble, took his interlocutor by the shoulder, led the way to an onlooking farmer and quizzed the villager as to whether or not he ever got to see politicians. The startled farmer’s coy response was that he did sometimes see the elected village head, an answer that Mr Gandhi chose to interpret favourably rather than as proof that MPs such as him rarely met their constituents.

The conversation was on a background basis. His spokesman has repeatedly failed to respond to requests that the interview be placed on-the-record. But the answer to one question still rings out. Asked whether it was ironic that those purportedly most interested in increasing grassroots democracy were from privileged backgrounds, he responded: “For the sake of helping the people of India, I don’t think it matters who my parents were.”

This week, if the exit polls are correct, Mr Gandhi is facing another humiliating defeat. His campaign in UP two years ago failed to stop his party losing heavily. Now he is faced by the prospect of Congress’s worst ever showing.

If the polls are correct, India’s oldest political party could be reduced to fewer than 80 seats. The prospect has raised fresh questions about the issue Mr Gandhi referred to when he mentioned his status as the scion of the Nehru-Gandhi family. Could it mark the end of India’s first political family?

“This defeat offers the opportunity for the Congress to regroup and to revitalise. This needs to be the priority during the next few years,” said Professor Katharine Adeney of the University of Nottingham. “For Congress to move away from dynastic politics, and to revitalise itself effectively, other leaders than those within the Gandhi family need to be promoted.”

Little more than a decade ago it appeared Mr Gandhi, 43, the great grandson of Jawaharlal Nehru, the grandson of Indira Gandhi and the son of Rajiv Gandhi, was content to remain in his rather anonymous career as a management consultant. But seemingly unable to escape the destiny others were fixing for him, in 2004 he contested and won the UP constituency of Amethi.

Most assumed he would at some point take over from Manmohan Singh as India’s prime minister. Yet as the possible day of reckoning became nearer, more people questioned whether or not Mr Gandhi actually wanted the top job. Even observers such as David Miliband, the former British foreign secretary who spent a night in a village hut with Mr Gandhi in 2009, became aware of his reputation as the “reluctant prince”.

“He does not seem to be in a great hurry. Party because of the enormity of the past,” said Rasheed Kidwai, a biographer of Sonia Gandhi, referring to Rahul Gandhi’s father, Rajiv, who was killed by a suicide bomber.

This January the party announced Mr Gandhi would head its election campaign against Narendra Modi of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Yet it stepped short of naming him as the prime ministerial candidate, something many took as more evidence of both his uncertainty about becoming premier and the party’s anticipation of defeat.

Mr Gandhi, who is sometimes found in the gymnasium of an high-end Delhi hotel, threw himself into the campaign, travelling across India and attending more than 100 rallies. But his labour paled into comparison with Mr Modi who spoke at more than 400 events.

After 10 years in power, the Congress party was already facing widespread feelings of anti-incumbency. But Mr Gandhi’s often lacklustre performances when he talked about the welfare schemes Congress had organised for the poor, compared poorly with Mr Modi’s dynamic appearances when he told crowds how he would help them to help themselves.

Mr Gandhi failed to see that hundreds of millions of Indians aspired to more than handouts from the elite. He was even upstaged by his own sister, Priyanka, who proved to be a far more natural campaigner, though her message also fell flat with many.

“These are rich people. They arrive, they leave and we are left with nothing,” said Savita Singh, a 23-year-old college graduate who recently watched Mrs Gandhi campaign for her brother in the UP village of Musafirkhana.

In Delhi, Mr Gandhi surrounds himself by a small team of advisers and gatekeepers and is accused of not listening to other voices, many of them senior figures.

In the aftermath of the Congress’s trouncing in the 2012 local elections in UP, Mr Gandhi spoke up and took the blame. Even though sycophantic party members tried to suggest it was their fault, he declared: “I accept responsibility. After all, I was the main campaigner.”

This time, the Congress has already stepped forward to take “collective responsibility”. Outgoing minister Kamal Nath, told reporters: “Rahul Gandhi was never part of the government. Election results are a reflection of the people’s perception about the government’s functioning.”

In most political environments, two successive defeats would spell the end of any leader. But Rahul Gandhi and his mother, who has suffered health problems, are likely to endure because while they have shown their ineffectiveness as vote winners, the Congress believes they are the glue that binds the party together.

This is the limiting logic that deadens ambition for anyone with hopes for the top job, but which creates a structure of power around which the various layers of the party can build themselves. The opposition BJP, whose candidate rose from a poor background, claims this is a major difference between the two parties.

“They are the knot on top,” said Lord Meghdad Desai, an Indian born member of Britain’s House of Lords. “If you undo it, the whole thing will dissolve and break up into many smaller regional parties... I think they will try and soldier on for now, perhaps with Priyanka taking over her mother’s seat because she is ill.”

This week, one senior figure considered close to the family, was still trying to sound optimistic. He said the Congress could win 135 seats, considerably more than the total of 80 being predicted by some polls.

“Rahul believes very strongly we are are going to better than that. He says ‘the polls have been wrong before’,” said the politician who asked not be named. “We will only know on Friday, once we get the numbers.”

The Chinese have a saying,"clogs to clogs in 3 generations",meaning that the founder of a successful business,etc.,usually sees his efforts and those of his offspring squandered by the grandchildren. In the case of our Nehru-Gandhi dynasty,it has taken another extra generation to squander the sacrifices of the past.In fact,"sacrifice" is the word that has kept the dynasty from collapsign in 3 generations.That of Mrs.G and Rajiv,both assassinated,bringing in much sympathy at election time and extending the proverbial timeframe for its downfall. Should as expected the Congress/UPA get a sound thrashing in the results,it will take another individual either from the debris of the dynasty or from a reorganised party to resurrect the fortunes of the party.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 15 May 2014 08:17

We should all support RaGas continued stewardship of the Congress for obvious reasons. And AAP should be helmed by the Bhushans and Ashutoshes as well.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 15 May 2014 08:22

Gus wrote:RS is for 6 years. so some states will come into play within couple of years? can't find the term schedule info on wiki.

plus there's admk 7, bjd 6 and independents 9 and nominees 9 (including sachin - the great congress campaigner in chief )

OT - among the myriad election CTs, that was the most bizarre dhoti shiver CT of all.

Sachin was the most cleverest of them all: he got a good send off and also Rathna. Good for him and I think he deserves it. NaMo also had asked for Rathna for Sachin, so it means that Sachin would have got it anyway even if NaMo had won.

But, there were definitely plans to make him campaign. However, he seems to have stuck to his guns and did not budge. Kudos to him for that.

BTW, Sachin was visiting Gujarat in March when NaMo started his bid for national role.
'God' of cricket Sachin Tendulkar visits Gujarat's Gir forest with family

Sachin seems to have visited Gir and Somnath with family.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 May 2014 08:26

I can give in writing that PV will take over soon from SG who will move into retirement. perhaps the next big INC baithak will signal this shift. Raga clearly can neither run the Govt or hold the party together.
its not funny, Raga vs Namo is like a local club hero vs chris gayle.

winning tomorrow would only be phase1 of the Reconquista from the sultanate horde.

1) INC system has to be uprooted from MH and AP the two moneybag states
2) become a significant force in WB and Assam for next assembly election cycle, finish the INC in Assam as the non-BD ppl there have shown a willingness to mobilize behind the BJP unlike the sober, intellectual, well read, buddhijeebi/world citizen bengalis.

3) win the next assembly elections in MH, UP and Bihar and wrest control of the entire core of the country.
4) retake karnataka
5) finish the AAP base in Delhi

lots of work for amit shah

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 15 May 2014 08:34

No automatic visa for Modi as PM, US says

http://m.timesofindia.com/lok-sabha-ele ... 137116.cms

Who gives a rat's ass about their stupid visa. I hope NaMo simply ignores these schmucks like UK & US and doesn't even bother mentioning them in his plans on foreign policy matters!

ravar · Post by **ravar** » 15 May 2014 08:44

Karan M wrote:
IndraD wrote:@RajeshA @atri

A babu from North Block told me few days back that Sangh's clothing & appearance needs relook and needs to be made more acceptable for current gen , many padha likha elite uber youth want to join but are prevented by appearance

This is cent per cent true, and I can vouch for it having conducted a sampling exercise amongst a younger peer group which could move towards their own culture. Today's youth is very image conscious-repackaging RSS would work wonders, as Modi proved with his savvy campaign.

+400 onlee

If sticking to tradition is the excuse for retaining the khaki trousers, when was trousers Bharatiya anyway?

High time the form is repackaged without affecting functionality.

Also, better PR for the Sangh is a must. All the lies reg. MKG assassination get regurgitated ad nauseum and I haven't seen any worthwhile counter discourse. This might entail spending more money in PR exercises, but that has become a necessity.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 15 May 2014 08:46

Anantha wrote:
IndraD wrote:@RajeshA @atri

A babu from North Block told me few days back that Sangh's clothing & appearance needs relook and needs to be made more acceptable for current gen , many padha likha elite uber youth want to join but are prevented by appearance
I have said the same thing to some BR members, who are also Sanghis, in person. A light blue full pant with blue T shirt might work wonders

By sanghi clothing and appearance are we talking about the current topi, short pant, chappal? If so, agree it needs a makeover. However, shorts are a practical outfit in India and were/are used in the Afrika Corps, Israeli army and kibbutzim.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 15 May 2014 09:08

anishns wrote:No automatic visa for Modi as PM, US says

http://m.timesofindia.com/lok-sabha-ele ... 137116.cms

Who gives a rat's ass about their stupid visa. I hope NaMo simply ignores these schmucks like UK & US and doesn't even bother mentioning them in his plans on foreign policy matters!

Lol at US, they keep digging themselves into bigger holes. These guys are the leaders of the free world? Shmucks.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 15 May 2014 09:09

They should introduce track pants, hoodies & t shirts. RSS is now beginning to be seen as 'cool & strong'. Many IT vity youth will gladly wear the RSS insignia on their chests if not for the outdated uniform.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 15 May 2014 09:13

Exactly.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 15 May 2014 09:16

sivab wrote:
RajeshA wrote:
However if Rajya Sabha does not pass a non-financial bill, which the Lok Sabha has passed, then there is a joint-session of Parliament. So if NaMo has overwhelming majority in Lok Sabha plus the 64 in Rajya Sabha, then still bills can be passed.
Can you give some numbers? Would this require 50% of joint session? Is that 50% of voting or 50% of total strength?

In Joint session Ruling Party would need 398 members voting (50% of Total Membership if present) Other wise it is 50% or Present and voting. In case of special majority like amending constitution it would require 2/3rd of present and voting and 50% of total membership.

Since BJP has about 64 in RS it would need 334 in LS else some compromise is inevitable. Congis would exercise all its might to block important bills. But for many actions promised in manifesto would not require legislative action but only executive action. He should start with that as SwamyG said.

member_27448 · Post by **member_27448** » 15 May 2014 09:24

Rahul Mehta wrote:
Using public opinion, NaMo can force LS\RS members to pass referendum act, and then he will never need to present any bill in LS\RS.

Now NaMo wont ever dare to support referendum route is another matter.

But what I meant is --- not having enough MP in RS is just an excuse, not reason.

Can you give be some detail information regarding Referendum Act. If its been effected, then don't we need to pass any bill in parliament?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 15 May 2014 09:26

While all attn is focussed on the big 4 ministries, I'm searching for any clue as to who might be the agriculture mantri. Huge responsibility on his shoulders. Hope the egregious APMC act gets watered down if not washed away altogether under the next sarkar...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 May 2014 09:35

Looking at namo brand merchandise being sold including printed sarees, he would be able to persuade the rss top brass to update their dress. He himself is a very dresser and well groomed.

Shorts and long pants, woth smart t shirt and baseball cap perhaps. Jackets and pullovers also with smart logo work.
They csn tie up with some e commerce vendor like myntra to run their clothing store even online, along with bjp merchandise like that poster of namo sitting alone in rishikesh beside the ganga... I want that for my drawing room.

Being a bjp rss supporter should be projected as cool and aspirational as the countrys youth are running with them.

The old school congis are all aged and fading out now. My fil is a prime example of a sulky old loh purush...grumbling about namo, hoping the exit pols are wrong, pining for the fair skin of PV......

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 15 May 2014 09:38

^^^ Why so complicated. Why not just a kurta pajama. Nothing wrong with desi outfits

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 15 May 2014 09:39

Who ever is the Ag minister the plan is in place made by Modi. Several radical changes are planned by him on drip irrigation, seeds improvement, grains storage reduction of rotting etc

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 15 May 2014 09:45

By sanghi clothing and appearance are we talking about the current topi, short pant, chappal? If so, agree it needs a makeover. However, shorts are a practical outfit in India and were/are used in the Afrika Corps, Israeli army and kibbutzim.

In winter months, shorts are impractical. RSS shorts are not shorts -- they are too wide and if you sit, your nuts show. These kind of shorts were in fashion in 1920s when RSS was formed and this kind of clothing was no longer considered indecent. Khakhi half pants with T-shirt (in summers) or shirt (in winters) and boots are much better. Will look cool too for the young generation.

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 15 May 2014 09:46

Singha wrote:Looking at namo brand merchandise being sold including printed sarees, he would be able to persuade the rss top brass to update their dress. He himself is a very dresser and well groomed.

Shorts and long pants, woth smart t shirt and baseball cap perhaps. Jackets and pullovers also with smart logo work.
They csn tie up with some e commerce vendor like myntra to run their clothing store even online, along with bjp merchandise like that poster of namo sitting alone in rishikesh beside the ganga... I want that for my drawing room.

Being a bjp rss supporter should be projected as cool and aspirational as the countrys youth are running with them.

The old school congis are all aged and fading out now. My fil is a prime example of a sulky old loh purush...grumbling about namo, hoping the exit pols are wrong, pining for the fair skin of PV......

I do not know why the fetish for "americannes" for Indian org. Baseball caps!!.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 15 May 2014 09:47

I am now in Vadodara. Abhi hai Modi sarkar.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 15 May 2014 09:50

I reiterate. How many ppl asking for "cool" outfit have regularly attended shakhas in their lives?

Those who have attended, tell me how many ppl actually attend shakha in rss uniform?

Furthermore, do u know what happens in shakhas everyday? Its exercise, games (mostly indian games and even rugby at times) followed by small talk about dharma and India, bhagva dhvaja-vandana and prarthana. I urge you gentlemen to show us lesser mortals how to play rugby kabaddi etc wearing full trousers, trackpants etc? There is even kushti, laathi-fighting at times.

Please start attending shakhas every day. You will see what I am saying.

Problem with dharma now a days is that there are many keyboard defenders of it. But hardly anyone does a regular sandhyavandanam twice a day or some similar vrata. Same goes for sangh. One has to live dharma. Similarly, one has to live sangha. As I said, mazdoor union, vanvaasi kalyan ashram, ABVP, BJP is also "Sangh". No one wears khaki chaddis while doing work for these outlets. It ins oy in shakhas that half chaddis (not mandatory but recommended) are worn. Khaki color is chosen because it does not look dirty easily after having played in mud and dust. And any shorts are good. I am associated with sangh for more than two decades and i have worn that attire only once or twice.

Please read my earlier response.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 15 May 2014 09:57

Atri ji, still, there is scope for making it a little smarter. In keeping with the times...

Shorts is fine, but perhaps different from the kind used currently. Other paraphernalia and jackets can be for regular use, not necessarily attending shakha.

The point is, all imagery of the RSS in parade has the current uniform. Its not a bad uniform, but people are saying it could be smarter.

RSS volunteers and Seva Bharati volunteers and ABVP, etc should all wear some identifying dress when doing public seva, too. It helps build an impression of unity and brand power.

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 15 May 2014 10:00

Atri wrote:I reiterate. How many ppl asking for "cool" outfit have regularly attended shakhas in their lives?

Those who have attended, tell me how many ppl actually attend shakha in rss uniform?

Furthermore, do u know what happens in shakhas everyday? Its exercise, games (mostly indian games and even rugby at times) followed by small talk about dharma and India, bhagva dhvaja-vandana and prarthana. I urge you gentlemen to show us lesser mortals how to play rugby kabaddi etc wearing full trousers, trackpants etc? There is even kushti, laathi-fighting at times.

Please start attending shakhas every day. You will see what I am saying.

Problem with dharma now a days is that there are many keyboard defenders of it. But hardly anyone does a regular sandhyavandanam twice a day or some similar vrata. Same goes for sangh. One has to live dharma. Similarly, one has to live sangha. As I said, mazdoor union, vanvaasi kalyan ashram, ABVP, BJP is also "Sangh". No one wears khaki chaddis while doing work for these outlets. It ins oy in shakhas that half chaddis (not mandatory but recommended) are worn. Khaki color is chosen because it does not look dirty easily after having played in mud and dust. And any shorts are good. I am associated with sangh for more than two decades and i have worn that attire only once or twice.

Please read my earlier response.

+100000000000000008