Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

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What Sherry Rehman & Marvi Sirmed are hinting at is that there should be proportional representation or Reservation for Muslims in India. That would then lead to separatist demands as the Muslim League did.
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SSridhar wrote:What Sherry Rehman & Marvi Sirmed are hinting at is that there should be proportional representation or Reservation for Muslims in India. That would then lead to separatist demands as the Muslim League did.
This was the very same question asked by a representative of the Congress party yesterday once the results were in. No wonder those losers are soft on Shitistan.
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SSridhar wrote:What Sherry Rehman & Marvi Sirmed are hinting at is that there should be proportional representation or Reservation for Muslims in India. That would then lead to separatist demands as the Muslim League did.
She tweeted it too and ended up getting a royal $panking. Brave lady, I say, she took it all without feeling a need to indulge in any exchange of opinions ... till someone by the name of a certain Rohit Vats and some other jingos joined in and extracted this out of her! :(( :((

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Islamabad High Court Judge declares Najam Sethi's appoin­tment as interim head 'illegal'. reinstates Zaka Ashraf as PCB Chairman

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) continues to occupy space in national courts, as the Islamabad High Court (IHC) reinstated Zaka Ashraf as the chairman of the body. Justice Noor Ul Haq termed Ashraf’s removal last January illegal, besides questioning the formation of the management committee that worked in Sethi’s chairmanship.

Besides reinstating Ashraf the court has also reinstated 38 employees who were recently sacked by the PCB.

The new move is once again set to send jitters in the board and the cricket team, the appointment of Waqar Younis (head coach), Moin Khan as the chief selector and manager and the coaching panel including Mushtaq Ahmed and Grant Flower who were set to work with Younis might no longer remain a part of the team management.

The chairman musical chairs has severely affected the board and their plans, since May 2013 Ashraf has been sacked twice and reinstated twice, while Sethi has also been brought in and out of office twice.

No PCB official was available for a comment on the latest development; on the other hand Ashraf welcomed the decision by the court.

“We will continue to take the decisions that favour Pakistan cricket; I am going to take charge of the board and will do the needful for improving our system”.

Meanwhile PCB had made public and internal audit last week which reported glaring mismanagement of funds by Ashraf in his earlier tenures, Ashraf though rubbished the claims and stated that all measures were taken in accordance with the rules and regulations of the board and he dint not indulge in any lavish spending.

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Can't expect better from STFUPies. Were they expecting that army of gazis will ride in and make towers of Hindu people and skulls, let various barbarians and civilian pretenders have their fill and continue a sultanate to lord over - like their bloodthirsty warmongrels forefathers?

It is the STFUPies who genocided Hindus in Bangladesh after ignoring election results when bangla political party got majority- just a few decades back. And themselves have made an example of shauchalaya in their own rule.

So what gives these people right to bark about other than chance to come out of caves and pretend to be civilized?
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Modi and His Electoral Prospects
http://goatdroppingsofwisdom.wordpress. ... prospects/
A prominent Pakistani journalist who analyzes Pakistani politics and domestic issues said angrily..“I cannot believe Modi was elevated as PM candidate in India. This demonstrates that BJP is not an inclusive party and does not care about the opinions and the sentiments of Pakistanis”.
His sentiments were echoed by many Pakistanis who felt a sense of betrayal. It is widely felt that Pakistanis who strive for pluralistic, multicultural and secular societies in other countries like India, USA and Europe have been ignored. A prominent Pakistani TV personality exclaimed “Modi has absolutely no appeal among the critical constituency of Pakistani elite who value multiculturalism in India. He is likely to win zero votes and endorsements among Pakistani liberals who want tolerance and respect for minorities in other places outside Pakistan”.She pledged to do her best to defeat Modi and said “Votes of Pakistani silent majority cannot be taken for granted by Indian politicians. Brave voices calling for minority rights in places outside Pakistan can never be intimidated”.
A common refrain among many Pakistanis was
“If Modi wins, I will stop going to India! A country run on the basis of religious ideology which does not protect minorities has no place in the modern world and does not deserve my money!”It is widely expected that if Modi were to win, Pakistani tourist dollars which used to go to India might flow to countries in the Middle east which are perceived in Pakistan to be more multicultural and pluralistic.Among the provinces, Modi was least popular in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa where opposition to Modi was total. Residents of Abbottabad who were celebrating the martyrdom of Al Qaeda fighters and had taken out a rally calling for eradication of Ahmadis declared “Extremists like Modi who do not respect minorities have no place in South Asia”.However the disapproval of Modi is more nuanced than it appears and he might have some support in Punjab. A Pakistani political strategist in Punjab commented
“If Modi were accused of involvement in riots against Pakistani minorities like Christians, Hindus and Ahmadis, and were to stand for elections in Pakistan, he would sweep all the seats! Nationalistic rhetoric, corruption free, effective leadership, pro-army stance, non-dynastic, development credentials AND anti-minority? That is a combination that cannot be beat in Pakistan! He will have 100% across the board support from all sections of Pakistani society: be it liberal, conservative, economy focused, or nationalistic. When will we have leaders like him?” He added “I wish there were more Pakistani politicians were like him.”Several Pakistani political parties have commissioned studies on Modi to see how pro-development rhetoric can be added to their already perfect anti-minority credentials. A representative of Pakistan council of Business wistfully commented
“Pakistan needs a strong leader like Modi with single minded focus on economic development and anti-terror stance. If in the process a few Pakistani minorities get killed, that is just the icing on the cake”.This opinion of Modi was summed up well by an Analyst in a prominent Pakistani think tank who wistfully declared in a jealous tone“Modi is the right man, but in the wrong country. You would be 400% correct if you accused me of jealousy”While it is still early to say if Modi will win Indian elections, whatever be the outcome, Indian elections of 2014 will be keenly fought and watched among Pakistanis whose opinion and votes will be critical in determining the next Prime Minister of India.
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Pakistan : Toilet-deprived people answer nature’s call on roadsides
However, majority of densely populated markets of eight Clock Tower bazaars do not have toilets and traders and shopkeepers have to go to nearby mosques or offices.
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However, majority of densely populated markets of eight Clock Tower bazaars do not have toilets and traders and shopkeepers have to go to nearby mosques or offices.
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India should follow this Paki example. There are so many old mosques to be utilize for public service like this.
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jhujar limits sirjee
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kancha wrote:
SSridhar wrote:What Sherry Rehman & Marvi Sirmed are hinting at is that there should be proportional representation or Reservation for Muslims in India. That would then lead to separatist demands as the Muslim League did.
She tweeted it too and ended up getting a royal $panking. Brave lady, I say, she took it all without feeling a need to indulge in any exchange of opinions ... till someone by the name of a certain Rohit Vats and some other jingos joined in and extracted this out of her! :(( :((

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I don't get the infatuation with the likes of Sherri and Marvi. Let them entertain the Bakis. They don't have any other entertainment -- no films or music or dancing. And the attention they garner makes them bolder as well as takes away well deserved fame and fortune from Indian idiots who would have gotten noticed otherwise. There are so many Sherris and Marvis in India that would like to be famous too. In only we kept them to respective sides.
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Ask sherry how her blasphemy law reform project is going.

Whenever they experience their "Deep concern for Muslims in South Asia" they conveniently leave out Bangladesh where they killed about a million of them. There were protests by paki interior minister when Qadeer Mollah (a Bangladeshi) was sentenced to death for his war crimes. How much support concern do their brethren in Bangladesh get ?

Also it is impossible to debate with them because they don't get logic. "Thank god for Jinnah that Muslims don't have to live under Hindu oppression because see Muslims couldn't influence elections". Well whose fault is it for dividing the Muslim electorate and taking 2/3 of them away from India and thereby weakening their bargaining power ? Yup the same Jinnah.

Two nation theory has been flushed down the toilet after Bangladesh happened. None of the pakis get it.
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Maryam Wattoo ‏@mwattoo ·11h
@atiyaz Agreed, but if we Pakistani Muslims wish well for Indian Muslims, it shd also be taken in good spirit @husainhaqqani @omar_quraishi
Amir Khan ‏@Gubomaster ·53 mins
@mwattoo @atiyaz @husainhaqqani @omar_quraishi Qustn u shuld b askng is why aint these Muslims in Pkisatan?Ask this q evrytme u opn urmouth

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^^ Never seen anyone of these folks wish well for Indian Hindus / Sikhs / Xtians, though!
Yup, preach on about secularism, democracy and the likes!
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Raza Rumi writing in Express Tribune "Engagement with Pakistan will help allay the fears of Indian Muslims after the landslide win of a ‘Hindu’ BJP'". :lol:

Next what? :wink: Appoint a Pakistani as India's Defence Minister as that will help allay the fears of Indian Muslims?

Pakistan is not afraid of Modi’s win
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slowly but surely - the space for pakistanis in India must be reduced - their access to Indian markets, Indian education, Indian jobs/industry, Indian entertainment outlets, needs to go.
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Keep an eye on "separate electorate" for Muslims idea. Right now just a murmur but it will one day enter mainstream. We have to be ready to counter it.
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Can't the feelings of Indian Muslims be assuaged by reaching out to Bangladesh? Last I checked they had as many Muslims as Pakistan.
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Oye Yaar, Pakis still think India as Mother ship and Barbaria as their destination.
Cursed be Djinna who neither could cross the proverbial gulf to Barbaria nor could win back India for them.

What was that proverb about Dhobhi ka Kutta.... :mrgreen:
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Guess who is bull cutlet next

http://www.dawn.com/news/1107052/fir-re ... o-show-row
An FIR was registered by the police on Saturday against Geo TV channel owner Mir Shakeelur Rehman, its morning programme host Shaista Lodhi, actress Veena Malik and her husband Asad Bashir Khattak. The case was registered under PPC’s sections 295-A [deliberate and malicious acts intended to outrage religious feelings of any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs], 295-C [use of derogatory remarks, etc., in respect of the Prophet (PBUH) ] and 298-A [use of derogatory remarks, etc., in respect of holy personages]. The suspects were also booked under Section 7 of the Anti-Terrorism Act [punishment for terrorist act].
The TFTAs really have the knives out for Geo. If they had gone soft on them, it would have been a signal to the media that they can question and attack ISI. The TFTAs just want to make an example out of them.
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partha wrote:Keep an eye on "separate electorate" for Muslims idea. Right now just a murmur but it will one day enter mainstream. We have to be ready to counter it.
That separate electorate is called Bakistan. Whoever demands that should move there.
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Veena Malik was always riled in STFUp of being anti-Islam or anti-national (match-fixing scandal) etc. She famously had the ISI tattoo and nothing else to cover her up in a photoshoot (in India?). So, two birds in one shot.
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Assaulted in India: Pakistani student reunites with family
“For my thesis, I had selected the topic of ‘Impression of Indian Youth towards Pakistan’ and I was shocked to see the results that many Indian youth who wanted peace with Pakistan and said good things about my country. So I have no idea who the attackers were and what were their motives,” he said.
What kind of thesis is that?

btw, kaament to the article
Welcome home buddy. Glad you are ok. Now watch out for Punjabi Taliban.
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Yesss you are! hee heee heeeeee.
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what an irony! beggar nation nabs its beggar people
[url=xxxhttp://www.nation.com.pk/islamabad/17-May-2014 ... ars-nabbed]Islamabad: Over a hundred beggars nabbed[/url]
Assistant Commissioner City Waqas Rashid along with Police Mujahid Squad launched a crackdown against professional beggars in City area and arrested 118. While six were given warnings and 84 were sent to Edhi Home. twenty accused were sent to the Adiala Jail under the Beggar Act, while 28 were fined Rs 12000. :lol: please let me beg to pay your fine...OK...thank you....gotchaa now pay another 12000...damn it! please let me beg to pay fine.........
Waqas Rashid said that nabbed beggars would be interrogated and legal action will be taken against them.
now the real news.
Begging is a privileged profession of bakistan. Baki elites have a monopoly on begging across the world. It has been endorsed by the UN, IMF and the world bank. (ADB joining soon). Baki elites have mastered this art of begging after years of hard work and dedication. They carefully keep the secrete of know-how within their elite clans. However a very disturbing conspiracy has unraveled in the garrison city of bakistan. To claim share of this prosperous begging business some mango beggars tried to master the art in Isloo streets, hoping to become professionals and eventually go global. This mighty pi$$ed off the elite beggars and they have now jailed those who crossed the line. Someone is calling this YYY conspiracy to dethrone baki elites of their prestigious status.
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A real tsunami

Imran Khan should take a page out of Narendra Modi’s book. The Indian Prime Minister (PM) in waiting has overcome the stain of communal violence, accusations of religious fundamentalism and the withering attacks of secular Indians to storm into power after netting the first full majority for any party since the 1984 Indian elections put Rajiv Gandhi in power. The BJP took 284 seats in the 543 seat Lok Sabha, giving it a simple majority in the lower house. With its closest allies included, that number rises to 340. No party in India has exerted such electoral power in 30 years. This is what a real ‘tsunami’ looks like, the result of numerous tectonic shifts in the bedrock of India’s polity, manifested in a tidal wave of enthusiasm for Modi’s perceived ability to deliver on his promises. The perception is based on 13 years of steady canvassing and image building by Modi, which has absorbed criticisms against him that would have damned many other politicians. Modi is implicated in some of India’s worst communal violence including the attack on the Babri Mosque in 1992 and the massacres that followed it and massacre of Muslims that occurred under his watch as chief minister of Gujarat in 2002. These are points of concern for Indian Muslims, who feel his party’s Hindutva ideology is focused on vengeance for 1,000 years of Muslim rule in the subcontinent. That Hindutva has found traction among India's historically secular intelligentsia and elite is an indicator of the shift in the Indian national consciousness, now focused on ‘reviving’ past Indian glories and ‘returning’ to what Hindutva ideologues believe was a golden age in India’s history. Ironically, by becoming bogged down in incumbency and dynastic policy, the ousted Congress party lost its forward-looking momentum to the BJP.

Populist dramatics of being a ‘strong’ leader aside, Modi’s campaign shows how Indian electoral politics has changed. Perception is as important as reality. Modi’s brand of corporatist capitalism in Gujarat, which saw eight percent growth almost consistently for ten years, was not exceptional. It was less than Tamil Nadu’s 8.6 percent and Bihar's 15 percent. If any state qualifies as exceptional, it should be Kerala which, despite eschewing a corporate model, boasts 7.9 percent growth over the same period. Except for Bihar, these are states where the BJP or its allies did not sweep the majority of Lok Sabha seats. Bihar presents a snapshot of communal voting, where the Hindu majority unified in reaction to the emergence of a Muslim voting bloc to give the BJP an election victory. This is the kind of split that terrifies Indian Muslims and is cause for their concern. Communal violence has been a part of Indian politics throughout its history since independence, and Hindutva is premised on the idea of communal separateness. But Modi did not score such a large election victory by being dogmatic. He has shown the ability to shape-shift according to the times. He focused on his impoverished background, his lower-caste upbringing, and his 'bachelor' life (that weds him to India) to become likeable. He has a sizeable and professional public relations team blooded in the filmmaking world of Bollywood. It has crafted a narrative that brushes communal violence under the carpet as the exception rather than the norm.

The question remains of how far Modi will go in the natural direction this ideology takes him. Undoubtedly 13 years as chief minister have taught him that the realities of governing are different to one’s ideas and governing a vast and heterogeneous country like India will mean he has to temper his election rhetoric. It is unlikely therefore that Modi will overtly antagonise either India’s sizeable Muslim minority, or its neighbours. Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif's message to him to come and visit was the gracious and friendly thing to do. The PM is hoping that Modi’s pragmatism will outweigh his religious sentiments and given Modi’s past, this may well turn out to be true. The BJP also has a history of engaging with Pakistan more than Congress. Only time will tell whether these outcomes emerge in practice. Modi’s propensity to absorb criticism and change his image is crucial to that future. *
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Anujan wrote:Two nation theory has been flushed down the toilet after Bangladesh happened. None of the pakis get it.

Au contraire, Anujan.

The Two-Nation-Theory is stamped and branded on the toilet paper rolls in each of my four bathrooms. After every wipe, I thank the good lord Ganesh for it (the soft paper and the hard TNT). Without it (TNT. i.e., ), India today would be wallowing in the same slime and poo in which the pakis and the BeeDees are rolling in today.

That's why djinnah happens to be one of my many favorite scumbags.
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partha wrote:Keep an eye on "separate electorate" for Muslims idea. Right now just a murmur but it will one day enter mainstream. We have to be ready to counter it.
It will happen. The demand will first emanate from bakistan and followed by UP and Bihar.
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abhijitm wrote:what an irony! beggar nation nabs its beggar people
[url=xxxhttp://www.nation.com.pk/islamabad/17-May-2014 ... ars-nabbed]Islamabad: Over a hundred beggars nabbed[/url]
It is called protecting one's turf. Can't have two beggars on the same street corner.
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SSridhar wrote:Veena Malik was always riled in STFUp of being anti-Islam or anti-national (match-fixing scandal) etc. She famously had the ISI tattoo and nothing else to cover her up in a photoshoot (in India?). So, two birds in one shot.
I wonder if her new hubby has noticed that "tattoo" on her **** yet?
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I swear maulanas, I did not make this up. Railway track near Rajanpur blows up with a bang .

Thanks to djinna and his preference for TFTAs. If this was India, the track would have blown up with a whimper.
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Miandad shows doubts over Pak-India series

Ex-captain questions legality of agreements signed by Sethi-led PCB
LAHORE – Former cricket captain Javed Miandad has expressed serious doubts over claims made by Najam Sethi-headed Pakistan Cricket Board that it had signed a memorandum of understanding with India’s BCCI to play six bilateral series between 2015 and 2023.
“At the same time, the PCB which was headed by Sethi was also working on ad-hoc basis and their main job was to hold elections so what is the legality of any agreements they signed with other boards,” he questioned. Since the PCB announced the signing of the MoU there had not been a single statement from the BCCI about it, he pointed out.

“This is strange because neither has any BCCI official reacted nor have they issued any release on this memorandum,” he said. Under the memorandum,
Pakistan will host India for a two-Test series at a neutral venue next year which would be followed by five other bilateral series, three of which would be hosted by Pakistan and two by India.
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Now that the Indian elections are over and a Bharatiya Govt. has been elected, which can be expected to for a start start looking at Indian interests, it is time I end my 'sabath' and return to Strategic Forum and foreign policy issues again, exactly after one year!

Published on May 18, 2014
By M K Bhadrakumar
Pakistan on alert

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http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2014/05/18/comment/modi-at-the-gates/
When I took over as the head of the Iran-Pakistan-Afghanistan Division in the Ministry of External Affairs in 1992 as the youngest ever Foreign Service officer to hold that job in South Block, the then Foreign Secretary J. N. Dixit gave me an extremely valuable piece of advice about the ABC of dealing with our hopelessly adversarial relationship with Pakistan.

Dixit with whom I had enjoyed a relationship of great mutual affection – having also earlier worked as his deputy in Islamabad — told me, “Bhadran, whenever a tense moment arises, before taking your decision or making your recommendation to me, always sit back and calmly introspect how that situation could be appearing from a Pakistani perspective. That helps you have a sense of proportions.”

This is one just moment, I thought to myself, watching the incredible exit polls on Times Now two days back. The 2014 poll results are bound to be seen in Pakistan as a defining moment for India-Pakistan relations.

The point is, from the Pakistani viewpoint, two Indian elections, set 70 years apart, hold strange parallels –as if in the ebb and flow of the history in the subcontinent nothing really changed in these past decades in regard of the destiny of the Indian Muslim.

The election held in 1944 in ‘undivided’ Punjab in British India was also the crucial milestone in galvanizing ‘Muslim nationalism’ when the All-India Muslim League led by Mohammed Ali Jinnah trumped the Indian National Congress beyond all expectations.

Therefore, the announcement of the expulsion of the two Indian journalists posted in Pakistan cannot be accidental. It could have been foretold. Another Pakistani ‘expulsion’ stealthily walks up from the attic of my mind — expulsion of two Indian diplomats on the eve of the swearing-in of late Benazir Bhutto as prime minister after her historic win in 1993.

The common thread has been the calibrated attempt to create bad bloodand scotch any attempts to open a new page in the shared political history of India-Pakistan.

In both cases, the hand of the Pakistani establishment — where I mean the military and the security agencies — is evident and for the very same reason, namely, to ensure that any incipient attempt to give a fresh start to India-Pakistan relations by the incoming political leadership is derailed at the outset by creating foul air that takes time to clear up, given the lack of mutual trust between the two capitals and the suspicions regarding each other’s dark intentions.

But the key question is why the Pakistani establishment is doing this? After all, it largely kept its word for a decade after Pervez Musharraf assured Atal Bihari Vajpayee on a ceasefire along the Line of Control.

The point is, times have changed. Modi is not Vajpayee and as I pointed out earlier in my column in Deccan Herald, Pakistan is not going to confuse the two BJP leaders.

Unlike those in our midst who may visualise Modi opting to inherit the UPA’s “four-step formula” to solve the Kashmir problem or those amongst us who keep saying that once ensconced in power, Modi is going to give the pass to the electoral pledges to abrogate Article 370 of the Indian constitution or build a Ram temple at Ayodhya or introduce Uniform Civil Code — unlike our folks, there are no lotus eaters in the GHQ in Rawalpindi.

They take the Rashtriya Swyamsevak Sangh [RSS] with dead seriousness. Suffice to say, as Pakistan would see it, once the BJP consolidates its grip in Uttar Pradesh by winning the next state assembly elections with a thumping majority (thanks to Amit Shah’s magic wand), the door is open for Modi to implement all the pledges that have consistently figured in the BJP manifestoes for over two decades already.

It stands to reason that the RSS will insist on the redemption of these pledges, finally, after decades of agonizing waiting. And, Modi is certainly not going to be the one to resist.

In sum, Pakistan can make out that this time it’s for real — India’s big lurch to right-wing Hindu nationalism.

Indeed, in such a scenario, the initiative slips out of the hands of the Pakistani civilian leadership to mend fences with India. The military establishment will demand total control over Pakistan’s India policies and Kashmir issue.

By the way, this also happens to mesh well with the Pakistani military’s reassertion lately in domestic politics. Alas, Modi’s remarks about Dawood Ibrahim in the heat of the election campaign only helped the tide in favor of the hardliners in Pakistan.

As Pakistan sees it, a lot of self-styled Indian experts who advocate ‘hot pursuit’ strategy toward cross-border terrorism and who apparently don’t mind waging a war or two with Pakistan so as to call its “nuclear bluff”, also happen to be ardent admirers of Modi — whether he actually encourages him or not is a different question.

Thus, all in all, the real foreign-policy challenge for Modi’s government is going to be the manner in which he handles India-Pakistan relations.

It is bound to impact the Hindu polarisation in Indian politics on the one hand and holds the potential to redraw India’s electoral map, while on the other hand, it is going to come under close international scrutiny.

As a matter of fact, the crunch times comes for India-US relations.

It goes far beyond the question of Modi’s US-visa status. The Carnegie scholar and noted ‘India hand’ in the US strategic community, Ashley Tellis was not far off the mark when he noted earlier this week, “Were the events in Gujarat in 2002 to be repeated somewhere in India, the risks to US-Indian relations would indeed be great… his detractors have already launched furtive and not-so-furtive campaign in the US aimed at persuading official Washington to view Modi as a threat to India and to American interests.”

Tellis becomes specific: “With a contentious personality like Modi at the helm of affairs, many Pakistan-based jihadi groups would be greatly tempted to engage in terrorist attacks in India… How a Modi government would react to such provocations is unknown.”

Indeed, if the hardliners in Pakistan want to throw a spanner at Modi’s economic agenda on growth and development, there is no better way they could do it than by disrupting the internal security.

Unfortunately, the statements emanating from Washington on 2014 poll are being conveniently interpreted by some in India as indicative of a foreplay on the part of the Obama administration to open a dalliance with Modi.


On closer examination, however, it is apparent that the statements bear striking similarity to the Obama administration’s early reaction to the presidential election in Russia in 2012 — not a word about Vladimir Putin himself, while there was fulsome praise for the democratic process as such.

Suffice to say, the Obama administration is keeping its finger alright on the ‘reset’ button, but hasn’t actually pressed it.

Objectively speaking, the predicament of the Obama administration is that the US today is a de facto ‘regional power’ in South Asia, given its long-term military presence in Afghanistan. Secondly, the US stakes claim to “exceptionalism” and the Obama administration cannot be impervious to a Hindu-Muslim flare-up in India.

Thirdly, if India-Pakistan relations nosedive, it has grave implications for international security, since both are nuclear powers.

Having said that, the rise in India-Pakistan tensions would also give the US the perfect alibi to intensely engage the Modi regime and extract advantages out it in other areas, especially in promoting the US’ defence exports to India or in promoting US business interests in the Indian market.

In fact, on this score, there is a congruence of interests between Washington and the Indian corporate sector groups which back Modi.

All in all, therefore, the expulsion of the two Indian journalists in Islamabad (who constitute the entire Indian press corps in Pakistan) has an ominous ring about it.

At the very minimum, the military establishment in Rawalpindi has signaled that it is going to be Modi’s real interlocutor (rather than Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif).

At the same time, by ratcheting up tensions with India, Pakistan hopes to involve the US in a mediatory role, which is something that Pakistani military historically sought, and in the developing scenario it would also serve the purpose of keeping Modi — and his ‘hot pursuit’ strategy — at bay.
Bring it on! Modi's reaction to ISI/TSPA is simply going to be "Make my day, punk!"
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr

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neerajmaurya wrote:On twitter, likes of sherryrahman and marvi sirmand are holding that they have a right to ask how many muslims are in Indian Parliament.

sherryrehman ‏@sherryrehman 5h
"India is the third largest Muslim country in the world? How many in the Lok Sabha now? #JustAsking

sherryrehman ‏@sherryrehman 58m
"Our treatment of minorities is shameful. Am the first to concede that Doesn't strip me of rite to question state of minorities elsewhere"
One billion muslims in the world. How many winning the Nobel Prize now? #JustAsking

Just because you are muslim doesn't give you a divine right to win votes or anything else (including war).
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How would he know? He is not in Pakistan, and can no longer show his face in Pakistan for fear of being killed.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr

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anupmisra wrote:I swear maulanas, I did not make this up. Railway track near Rajanpur blows up with a bang .
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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anupmisra wrote:
partha wrote:Keep an eye on "separate electorate" for Muslims idea. Right now just a murmur but it will one day enter mainstream. We have to be ready to counter it.
It will happen. The demand will first emanate from bakistan and followed by UP and Bihar.
Even before UP and Bihar, it will be a recurring theme in the TV studios and op-eds by JNU type activists. In fact on the day of result, Zoya Hasan, JNU professor who was one of the NDTV panelists kept talking about "consolidation of Hindu votes", "communal polarization between Hindus and Muslims" without providing any concrete data to back up the claim. In a way she was blaming Hindu voters for bringing Modi to power and fragmenting secular opposition.
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anupmisra wrote:
partha wrote:Keep an eye on "separate electorate" for Muslims idea. Right now just a murmur but it will one day enter mainstream. We have to be ready to counter it.
It will happen. The demand will first emanate from bakistan and followed by UP and Bihar.
It is already happening. The demand has already come from NDTV (Zoya) during elecshun coverage and is being followed up by entitled denizens of Loot-em's Delhi.

Check the election coverage of NDTV and D.Butt's contacts within the bakistani elites and back into desi media., this is to create an echo chamber so the voices will grow loud.

Further, with an emphatic win in J&K by BJP (3 out of 6 seats) including defeating a union cabinet minister., the equation bakis getting Kashmir is over (or at least for the next 5 years).

So the only way bakis can whine is with the aid of their "friendly taliban" from Loot'ems Delhi and NDTV has already raised that flag.
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@disha ^^^: "The demand has already come from NDTV (Zoya) during elecshun coverage and is being followed up by entitled denizens of Loot-em's Delhi."

Did no one bi@*slap Zoya when she said that? I mean was that not the reason for Pakistan? Al Quaed demanded either separate electorates or what we now know as Class B share voting rights." Both are incompatible with democracy.
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@neerajmaurya ^^^:

"sherryrehman ‏@sherryrehman 58m
"Our treatment of minorities is shameful. Am the first to concede that Doesn't strip me of rite to question state of minorities elsewhere"

Could someone please tweet to SR: "Au contraire, gives you an opportunity ignore what's happening at the ranch and point fingers elsewhere."
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