Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 26 May 2014 22:58

Modi is making Sharif a little too nude.......did you guys see Modi's tweets on Sharif's "emotional things"? Modi will probably grip him like a python.

Frederic · Post by **Frederic** » 26 May 2014 22:59

Karan M wrote:A lot of strength in that body posture.

NaMo's hand is in the dominant (upper) position. Badmash's hand has automatically conceded the alpha status to NaMo by getting under. This is a classic pose of subjugation. Also while NaMo's body language is open (thus indicating fearless abandon), Badmash is tentatively protecting his family jewels, another classic beta pose. For further laughs compare the (in)famous photu of Amma with her minions.. err.. ministers. All the mards sitting close to her are tightly cupping their gonads, not knowing when Puratchi Thalaivi's high heels would come crashing down on the jewels

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 26 May 2014 22:59

Anantha wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_India

Updated

Someone please replace the 70's disco wallah with someone in black suit.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 26 May 2014 23:00

abhishek_sharma wrote:

Manu · Post by **Manu** » 26 May 2014 23:04

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Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 26 May 2014 23:12

Frederic wrote:
Karan M wrote:A lot of strength in that body posture.

NaMo's hand is in the dominant (upper) position. Badmash's hand has automatically conceded the alpha status to NaMo by getting under. This is a classic pose of subjugation. Also while NaMo's body language is open (thus indicating fearless abandon), Badmash is tentatively protecting his family jewels, another classic beta pose. For further laughs compare the (in)famous photu of Amma with her minions.. err.. ministers. All the mards sitting close to her are tightly cupping their gonads, not knowing when Puratchi Thalaivi's high heels would come crashing down on the jewels

Frederic, interesting analysis. I just went by the image itself and NaMo's body posture appears that of a physically strong confident individual. Nawaz comes across as a wheeler dealer

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 May 2014 23:14

Sridhar K wrote:FWIW, Rajdeep was mentioning on CNN IBN during the oath taking that Nejma was very very close to PVNR.
Prominent missing list
a) Subbu Swamy
b) Rajiv Pratap Rudy
c) Meenakshi Lekhi
d) Arun Shourie - wanted himself out
e) Parrikkar
f) Amit Shah

The inner coterie,real friends who dont require formality or make demands, these will be one whose opinion will actually matter in making decision by Modi.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 26 May 2014 23:18

I agree. There is the government and then the shadow government. The real decisions are going to be made behind the scenes.

arminius · Post by **arminius** » 26 May 2014 23:31

Manu wrote:
Sanju wrote:Omita Paul, Secretary to President Pranab Mukherjee, ...
SHE IS WIFE of senior IPS and close to President.

Dr. K.K. Paul? Sister of Rahul Khullar, fmr. Finance Secretary.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 26 May 2014 23:40

Hari Seldon wrote:Body language...

NS looks like a sleazy used car salesman who uses words like "honestly speaking", "honest to god", "Trust me" etc etc etc while eying your wife. NaMo is extending his hand farther which shows confidence in one self, has a confident smile at the same time showing his canines possibly thinking "go ahead, make my day ma@#%#%d"

The proof lies in the pudding and when the inevitable 'tactically brilliant' event happens, we will have to see how NaMo responds. The response to the first terrorist event is key and hopefully NaMo won't fail us.

-M

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 27 May 2014 00:01

ABP writes about NM's connection with Ramkrishna Mission.
http://my.anandabazar.com/content/%E0%A ... A6%B0-5123
...... বস্তুত রামকৃষ্ণ মিশনের সঙ্গে মোদীর সম্পর্ক বড় গভীর। কৈশোরে মোদী বাড়ি থেকে পালিয়ে গিয়েছিলেন সন্ন্যাসী হবেন বলে। প্রথমে তিনি চলে যান হিমালয়ে। তিন মাস কোনও খোঁজখবর ছিল না। কেউ জানত না নরেন্দ্র মোদী কোথায়। তিনি তখন গিয়েছিলেন আলমোড়ায় রামকৃষ্ণ মিশনে। তারপর আসেন রাজকোট আশ্রমে। আজকের ‘প্রেসিডেন্ট মহারাজ’ স্বামী আত্মস্থানন্দ ১৯৬৬ সালে রাজকোট মিশনের সচিব ছিলেন। এক সতীর্থ সন্ন্যাসীর মাধ্যমে মোদী আত্মস্থানন্দের কাছে পৌঁছন। বলেন যে তিনি সন্ন্যাসী হতে চান। এর আগে আলমোড়া আশ্রমেও তিনি একই আবেদন করেছিলেন। তাঁরা মোদীকে সন্ন্যাস ধর্মে মন্ত্র দিতে রাজি হননি। স্বামী আত্মস্থানন্দের কাছে মোদী যখন আবার একই অনুরোধ করলেন, তখন তিনি মোদীকে বোঝান বেলুড় মঠে কোনও শাখার সচিব সন্ন্যাস প্রদানের বিষয়ে একতরফা সিদ্ধান্ত নিতে পারেন না।
র পরে মোদী রাজকোটের আশ্রমেই ব্রহ্মচারীর মতো থাকতে শুরু করেন এবং আশ্রমের কাজকর্মে যুক্ত হয়ে যান। অল্প কিছু দিনের ধ্যেই স্বামী আত্মস্থানন্দের স্নেহভাজন হয়ে ওঠেন তিনি। স্বামী আত্মস্থানন্দই তাঁকে বেলুড় মঠের তৎকালীন প্রেসিডেন্ট মহারাজ স্বামী মাধবানন্দের সঙ্গে যোগাযোগ করিয়ে দেন। কিন্তু স্বামী মাধবানন্দও মোদীকে বলেন, সন্ন্যাস যোগ তাঁর জন্য নয়। রাষ্ট্র গঠন ও সমাজের সংস্কারে তাঁকে কাজ করতে হবে।.....বেলুড় মঠের সহকারী সম্পাদক স্বামী সুবীরানন্দ এ দিনও বলছিলেন, “মোদী সন্ন্যাসী হতে চেয়েছিলেন। কিন্তু তাঁর যে রাষ্ট্রের এবং রাজনীতির আরও বড় দায়িত্ব পালন করার ক্ষমতা আছে, সেটা সে দিন মহারাজেরা বুঝতে পেরেছিলেন।” সেই জন্যই তাঁকে সন্ন্যাসে দীক্ষা দেওয়া হয়নি। কিন্তু মোদীর কাছে রামকৃষ্ণ মিশনের একটা আলাদা জায়গা থেকেই গিয়েছে। মিশনের সঙ্গে তাঁর সম্পর্কও রয়ে গিয়েছে। গত বছরই ১০ এপ্রিল বেলুড় মঠে গিয়ে স্বামী আত্মস্থানন্দের সঙ্গে দেখা করেন মোদী। সকালবেলা মঠে গিয়ে ঠাকুরকে প্রণাম করেছিলেন। স্বামী আত্মস্থানন্দের আবাসগৃহে গিয়ে আশীর্বাদ নিয়েছিলেন।......"
Gautam

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 27 May 2014 00:08

rajithn wrote:
Karan M wrote:A lot of strength in that body posture.
It's like NS thinking.."Lemme grab that hand while its still out. While I use my other to protect my jewels. Can't trust the guy to kick me in the nuts and make me a 'déhaati aurat'" LOL

Remember

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 27 May 2014 00:15

SHE IS WIFE of senior IPS and close to President.

Dr. K.K. Paul? Sister of Rahul Khullar, fmr. Finance Secretary.[/quote]
No ,wife of police commissioner KK Paul Delhi
true dilli billi, represents delhi cabal
no transfer in entire career out of delhi

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 27 May 2014 00:16

http://victorywall.narendramodi.in/

We can design + color + image our personal Badhai to Prime Minister Sh. Narendra Das Modi here on the PMO victory wall !!!

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 27 May 2014 00:23

These two pictures seem to be similar. NaMo and Amit Bhai are warm and enthusiastic while their opponents seem to be uncertain seeing the warmness. It seems to me that Amit Bhai and NaMo are seasoned veterans who know how to handle things and are cool. Their opponents though experienced don't have the same coolness and seem uncertain(even confused).

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 27 May 2014 01:04

^^^That coolness comes from self-confidence and strength and the conviction that one is doing the right thing.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 May 2014 01:20

i did not understand why amit shah did not get anything? will he get home or defence in the future?

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 27 May 2014 01:23

I think he'll take up organizational building wherever BJP is weak. Plus, NaMo would like him to get cleared of possible CBI investigations first.
Many media reports say that he's already very highly sought to manage the campaign in MAH assembly polls coming soon.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 May 2014 01:28

that would be difficult.. kerala, tn and wb. ap is no use since part of NDA.

better he be given some dual role, like defence + org building.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 27 May 2014 01:29

IndraD wrote:AAP activist held for allegedly sharing anti-Modi MMS

A 25-year-old MBA student and Aam Aadmi Party activist from the coastal Karnataka town of Bhatkal has been arrested for allegedly circulating an MMS ridiculing Prime Minister-elect Narendra Modi.

Waqas Barmawar, son of noted Bhatkal-based Nawaithi and Urdu poet Samiullah Barmawar, was held along with four of his friends from an apartment in Bangalore by the city police’s central crime branch on Saturday evening.

The other four were released on Sunday afternoon after questioning but Waqas continues to be in police custody. Police sources said he was taken to Khanapur in Belgaum for questioning.

The MMS that got Waqas into trouble shows a corpse morphed with Modi’s face. Spoofing the BJP election slogan “Abki Bar Modi Sarkar”, the image runs with the headline “Abki Baar antim sanskaar”.

The image was allegedly doing the rounds on a few WhatsApp groups administered by AAP activists. According to sources, it was accidentally forwarded to a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) supporter in Belgaum and he complained to the police.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 22788.aspx

So basically a quasi jihadi threat to depose of the PM. And the paper is attempting to downplay the issue.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 May 2014 01:32

bhatkal is a jihadic epicenter.. now, i want modi sarkar to do hot pursuit!

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 27 May 2014 01:57

Aayee jhoom ke basant jhoomo sang sang mein

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 27 May 2014 02:22

abhijitm wrote:anti RM elements! Seriously?

I am agaist adding anyone in Ignore list. Imagine if people start 'ignoring' each other, it defeats the purpose of discussion forum. But in this case I had to. I just cannot take dose of CT after CT. Yet I read his posts <sigh to myself>

He is the David Icke of BRF. If you get a chance watch David on You Tube. Enjoyable way to spend Sunday Afternoon.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 27 May 2014 02:26

“Nazrul Islam an icon of all Bengalis”

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 27 May 2014 02:49

abhishek_sharma wrote:“Nazrul Islam an icon of all Bengalis”

Very much true.
Also, very little evaluation of Nazrul has been done outside of Bengal regarding his iconic figure as a true secularist. I concur with many of my BD muslim friends that the biggest weapon to smash Islamic fundamentalism is Nazrul. The poems and songs he penned give too much takleef to the faithfools.
Very few outside of Bengal know that Nazrul penned many many 'Shyama-Sangeets' (devotional songs praising Goddess Kali).

I hope NaMo heaps praises on Nazrul, helps preserve his ancestral home as ABV did, and doesn't allow
Mamata walk away with Nazrul as her only prized possession. This will generate another level of PR for NaMo in Bengal (as well as in BD).

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 27 May 2014 02:59

SaiK wrote:i did not understand why amit shah did not get anything? will he get home or defence in the future?

He's second in command. The guy who ensures that everyone is doing their job and is entrusted with "off the record" assignments. He's probably got the toughest job of all.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 27 May 2014 03:01

Amit Shah is Hanuman of Modi, Hanuman never asked for any portfolio in Rama's kingdom

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 May 2014 03:03

any pics/video of spg with modi?

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 27 May 2014 03:54

Perhaps I am reading too much into it.....but, as far as body language is concerned,
the first one is more authoritative whereas in the second one NaMo seems to be slightly bowing

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 27 May 2014 04:10

^^
No way dude.

Look in first pic NaMo's hand is above NS's

Next notice NaMo's tightly clenched fingers vs open open palm

Last, note NS clutching left hand to protect crown jewels.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 27 May 2014 05:23

johneeG wrote: These two pictures seem to be similar. NaMo and Amit Bhai are warm and enthusiastic while their opponents seem to be uncertain seeing the warmness. It seems to me that Amit Bhai and NaMo are seasoned veterans who know how to handle things and are cool.

You hit the nail on the head, call it aggressive or Super-power like strut; but their body language with frenemies will definitely make the frenemies think 10 times before doing anything. With sadhu, sant and other friends they seem to be very humble. However Modi/Amit's approach to take the bull by its horns with smile on their faces is going to unnerve their domestic and international opponents.

Imagine, you are cursing and scheming against your enemy; and the enemy is calm, cheerful and approaches you with dignity and respect. Yet, there is a tinge of aggression and menace. You would be cautious.

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 27 May 2014 05:34

RoyG wrote:He's second in command. The guy who ensures that everyone is doing their job and is entrusted with "off the record" assignments. He's probably got the toughest job of all.

Without taking the ministerial oath of secrecy, how can he be made privy to Govt. business?

Please don't quote MMS/ SG arrangement in this regard. NaMo is not likely to violate the constitution knowingly like MMS did.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 27 May 2014 05:45

Okay Kakkaji. Amit Shah, one of Modi's most trusted lieutenants is history. Happy now?

Amitava · Post by **Amitava** » 27 May 2014 06:00

abhishek_sharma wrote:“Nazrul Islam an icon of all Bengalis”

Guys -- please tell the Morons at the Hindu that Nazrul was not Bangladeshi. Yes -- he's the national poet -- but that doesn't make him bangladeshi; Rabindranath wrote their national anthem and that too doesn't make him Bangladeshi either.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 27 May 2014 06:38

SanjayC wrote:Barkha's information source about cabinet formation finally revealed.

Please do not insult the happy pan wallah - he seems to be a guy who watches the right channel - not NDTV.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 27 May 2014 06:47

He is the dude who thought Barkha was Priyanka

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 May 2014 06:53

Amitava wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:“Nazrul Islam an icon of all Bengalis”
Guys -- please tell the Morons at the Hindu that Nazrul was not Bangladeshi. Yes -- he's the national poet -- but that doesn't make him bangladeshi; Rabindranath wrote their national anthem and that too doesn't make him Bangladeshi either.

his family lives in patipukur kolkata. BD took him there when he was old and lost cognitive function.

it is said that NI went deeply into spirituality, pranayam etc after his son passed away. his vegetative state in later years was supposed to be due to a samadhi (deep meditative state) gone bad.

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 May 2014 06:53

Kakkaji wrote:
RoyG wrote:He's second in command. The guy who ensures that everyone is doing their job and is entrusted with "off the record" assignments. He's probably got the toughest job of all.
Without taking the ministerial oath of secrecy, how can he be made privy to Govt. business?

Please don't quote MMS/ SG arrangement in this regard. NaMo is not likely to violate the constitution knowingly like MMS did.

we don't know that he hasn't or will not take oath of secrecy?

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 27 May 2014 07:01

Amitava wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:“Nazrul Islam an icon of all Bengalis”
Guys -- please tell the Morons at the Hindu that Nazrul was not Bangladeshi. Yes -- he's the national poet -- but that doesn't make him bangladeshi; Rabindranath wrote their national anthem and that too doesn't make him Bangladeshi either.

Nazrul was born in West Bengal. As he was suffering from a disease that made him lose him memory and voice, it was his family that let him go and live in Bangladesh most probably due to monetary reasons. There he died suddenly, and before his family could bring him back, he was quickly buried in Bangladesh. I remember his son petitioning Indira Gandhi's help in bringing his body back, as all his family is in India. But the Bangladeshi government refused saying citizenship was granted to him. But what is granting citizenship to some one who was so mentally ill that he could not recognize anyone? The fact is Bangladesh wanted to possess someone of his stature.
Shayama Sangeet by Najrul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gto5QIThX8g
Gautam