Telugu States' News and Discussion

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 30 May 2014 04:11

ramana wrote:BTW Charminar is pre-Ganga Jamuna culture as it was built by Qutb Shahs who were betrayed (Mir Jumla) and destroyed by Ganga Jamuna culture. Abul Tanesha was last Qutb Shah who was captured and made prisoner by Aurangzeb who is from Ganga Jamuna culture.

Qutb Shahis had only "la ilaaha il-Allah" inscribed on the Charminar - half the shahadah minus the reference to one particular prophet. But once the Asif Jahis were installed, they added "Muhammadun rasoolullah" to it.

The Buddha Statue in the Hussein Sagar could have become the icon of modern Hyderabad, but it turned out rather ugly.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 May 2014 04:21

Ok found your birdi... Its blasphemy

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 30 May 2014 04:48

the move by TDP ministers to rename it as NTR airport is bare naked "colonial" mentality.

let's conduct a poll on BRF and ask who's contributions to India were greater: PVNR or NTR?

IMO, those 2 are arguably the most prominent and undoubtedly the most influential leaders to emerge from AP+T post-1947. But if you're going to name the Hyd International Airport after someone, PVNR wins hands down.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 30 May 2014 04:55

johneeG wrote: TRS' veneration of Nizaam are also interesting. TDP or BJP should be able to raise these issues. How can anyone who claims to be fighting for people of Thelangana venerate Nizaam? If Modi were to be in CBN position, he would have politically buried KCR on only this single issue: veneration of Nizaam. The same one who sent Razaqers to kill people.

this is an excellent point.

it's also the reason why I kept saying for years now, that TDP is fundamentally weak when it comes to questions of core values. they are better than others at the moment, but in the long term, they will not generate the kind of "ideology" that is required.

If I were TDP, this would have been the one point that I would have hammered constantly without stopping.

If CBN had done one tour in Telangana, one pada-yatra, bring this Nizam-pasand attitude of KCR right to the people, TRS would not have been the force that it is today.

in this, even BJP failed abjectly. in essence, it's a deracinated set of elites who are too infused with the "secular" bug to bring up these issues. they are haunted by the fear of being labeled "communal". even the BJP leadership here is similar.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 30 May 2014 05:37

If the TDP wants to rename anything, the first thing should be to rename YSR district to cudappah and restore the religious significance of the name.

gpati · Post by **gpati** » 30 May 2014 08:56

devesh wrote: PVNR or NTR?

What about Pratapa Rudra, last emperor of Kakateeya Dynasty?

He chose to end his life over comforts of Islam.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 May 2014 09:16

Gpati garu,

Now Hyderabaad is part of Telangana. They know who their heros are and will name the airport accordingly.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 May 2014 09:20

TDP proposal to renamed the airport is said to be based on original name was NTR airport. YSR changed it.
However I think its a IED.

bahdada · Post by **bahdada** » 30 May 2014 10:43

PVNR is a more acceptable in terms of less T-Vadi and Congressi Drama. NTR is okay too, but it may drive the Pinko Brigade nuts. They can't stone incoming flights can they?

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 30 May 2014 11:32

NTR airport was the one at Begumpet. The new one has always been called Rajiv Gandhi.

arunsrinivasan · Post by **arunsrinivasan** » 30 May 2014 16:38

Any inside dope on what is happening in YSR Congress? No news on that front for a bit.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 30 May 2014 16:45

T S Sudhir @Iamtssudhir #Telangana secretariat employees association forcibly takes over office of the united AP sectt employees assn. War of words btwn employees

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 May 2014 17:51

As per reports CBN is going to meet NM today and going to ask for lot of things for AP. BJP leaders and even MMS promised to of Universities and other stuff for AP. NM personally promised things to AP and he will most likely to keep his word. Ordinance on Polavaram is already done deal. Srisailam project is also located in AP now. With 15 plus MP seats CBN is in a position to get some benifits from NM and BJP.

KCR unfortunately going to fight with BJP as a party and NM as a person.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 30 May 2014 18:07

On a lighter note

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 May 2014 19:59

arunsrinivasan wrote:Any inside dope on what is happening in YSR Congress? No news on that front for a bit.

Not insider info but note the two MPs from YSRC have changed over to TDP. Its not like TDP needs the MPs.

This is weaken the others while you are still strong strategy.

Pawan Kalyan is supposed to have asked for CBI inquiry into Jagan as his reward for supporting BJP.

I think Omar Khalidis dream of reviving Nizamiyat is coming true.
The new flag is even green.

Wonder if this is TRS-MIM decision? What do others have to say?

The symbol is a sad betrayal of Pratap Rudra's/Kakatiya memory. Atleast NTR made sure the Warangal gate/dwaram alone is there on Tank Bund Road and was thus true to their memory.

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 30 May 2014 20:14

Why don't they build a new airport in the new capital of AP and name that after NTR? As such, HYD will go to Telangana, no sense in acrimonious fighting over airport name, when TDP can do whatever it wants to in the new AP capital. Build a new airport to rival HYD, call it NTR airport and be done with it

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 May 2014 20:16

As I said before its an IED by TDP.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 May 2014 20:30

But HYD airport definitely needed to renamed as PVNR and not with current Rajiv G. Too many is AP/TG are named after Gandhis. I agree on not naming HYD airport after NTR. There are ample number of biggies that will happen in new AP where you can name one of the biggies with NTR.

TDP is pulling something here

SandeepA · Post by **SandeepA** » 30 May 2014 20:38

Telangana has a flag now?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 30 May 2014 21:37

Interesting that some T-vadis are against naming Hyderabad airport after NTR. I am perfectly fine with naming it after PVNR. But someone needs to point out the hypocrisy here. Its a shame that T-vadis remember PVNR only to spite TDP which they see as a "Andhra" (as in SA) party. What stopped T-vadis from demanding that the airport should be named after PVNR before or even now ? Are TRS, T-Cong who call themselves as telangana thekedars who are representative of current T-people proposing that it should be named after PVNR ? It is "Andhra" TDP which is demanding a memorial to PVNR in Delhi whom they rightly see as Andhra (as in Telugu) icon and not as telangana one. Where are the T-vadis ? I am sure that T-vadis will be ok if someone wants to name the airport after Nizam or Rajiv but will have big h & d problem if its named after NTR who is a Andhra icon happened to born on the "other side" of the artificial line. T-vadis are one deracinated lot.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 30 May 2014 21:42

NTR gari parivaramu (family) is another dynasty in the making. None of PV saab's family is in active politics today. Second gen are definitely not in politics AFAIK.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 30 May 2014 21:51

Why are we even comparing NTR with PVNR ? Are we know seeing them as "Andhra" and "Telangana" icons respectively as opposed to Andhra (as in Telugu) icons ?

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 30 May 2014 22:14

The longest elevated flyover in India (~12Km) leading to Hyderabad airport is called PVNR Expressway (built with 1000 Crores) - which happens to be the one of the two "expressways" (other is ORR again in Hyd costing 7000Crores) in undivided AP.

These TDP demands of renaming of Hyd airport on NTR's name and simultaneously demanding a PVNR memorial in Delhi is nice.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 30 May 2014 22:19

ANI ‏@ANI_news 1h

We want to restore the name, not change the name: Chandrababu Naidu on Rajiv Gandhi Intl. Airport pic.twitter.com/JBr6cHfk93

Seems reasonable to me.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 May 2014 23:11

I was never aware it was named NTR initially. Hmm.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 May 2014 23:17

Yes it was named NTR airport during negotiations before YSR got elected. He changed the name to RG Intl Airport. The clue is MAS is part owner of Hyd Airport .

And you know who has M connections?

SrinivasK · Post by **SrinivasK** » 31 May 2014 00:15

Other good names for the airport -

Hyderabad Intl Airport
Kakatiya Intl Airport
Rani Rudrama Devi Intl Airport
Pothana Intl Airport
Kancherla Gopanna Intl Airport

There are already other places named after PVNR and NTR. Naming after anybody recent (20th century) can be construed political and there are always people who disagree. By naming after some historical figures, we can at least inspire our children to learn/remember them.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 31 May 2014 01:59

Proposals made to AJ by CBN - Clarity on Special status and incentives, Financial relaxation like in the case of Uttarakhand and Financial help to dispense salaries for the first 2 months

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 31 May 2014 02:01

I was about to type something similar to what SrinivasK did above.

Naming after NTR will be a contentious issue as NTR jr is entering politics also. He dropped the jr prefix. What would one be reminded of? Yeah, Nehru (nay Gandhi) dynasty, anyone?

An international airport has visibility all over the world which has immense brand equity associated with it. It would be good to have Kandukuri Vireshalingam or another such social reformer or Rani Rudrama Devi or Prataparudra Deva than recent politicos. Otherwise please wait to see YSR's name emerging very soon.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 31 May 2014 04:07

KCR himself named his son after NTR. Airport was initially named as NTR. Had it been named as PVNR no one will have objection.

NTR did removed the hated Patel, patwari, karanam etc village administration and for this step alone he deserves greater recognition in Telangana state also.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 31 May 2014 07:06

Oh well. Whatever. No skin off my nose.

By the way, KTR is not called NTR jr. so that he can drop the prefix to be the second coming of NTR.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 31 May 2014 13:17

As the new govt in AP is about to take over, it is getting more and more clear how bad the division was for AP. The UPA govt basically ruined one region to take political advantage in another region. The new state will start with a deficit of Rs 14000 crores per year, that is a whopping 25% of the budget for a state that starts with huge debt and little income. They just created a new BIMARU state - perhaps the 'A' stands for andhra pradesh. On top of this they have to pay for the stupidity of CBN in the form of Rs 80000 crores for forgiving farmer's loans. Now he is taking it as prestige issue to build a new capital at Vijayawada- Guntur at huge cost. He better sit outside the parliament and do the begging job with lot more intensity and hope to get some pennies from center.

It is amazing how Indian union can deprive 5 crore people in one stroke for electoral advantage. Wait until somebody on AP side takes advantage of this plight and rally the population, then India will have another northeast, right at the centre. The entire cabinet committee of the UPA should be prosecuted and put in jail for this crime. On the other side with Rs 14000 crores/year surplus, KCR can do any kind of bandhs and gimmicks to finish off whatever is left in SA.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 31 May 2014 18:52

What shall Rajasthan. delhi and many other states deserve then??? 205 seats in 2009 entire nation and the diff between mafia and TDP is 1% in AP in 2009.

CBN has a serious problem in hand and I hope he is not going to do any stupid things.

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 31 May 2014 18:59

nukavarapu wrote:
Dasari wrote:As the new govt in AP is about to take over, it is getting more and more clear how bad the division was for AP. The UPA govt basically ruined one region to take political advantage in another region. The new state will start with a deficit of Rs 14000 crores per year, that is a whopping 25% of the budget for a state that starts with huge debt and little income. They just created a new BIMARU state - perhaps the 'A' stands for andhra pradesh. On top of this they have to pay for the stupidity of CBN in the form of Rs 80000 crores for forgiving farmer's loans. Now he is taking it as prestige issue to build a new capital at Vijayawada- Guntur at huge cost. He better sit outside the parliament and do the begging job with lot more intensity and hope to get some pennies from center.

It is amazing how Indian union can deprive 5 crore people in one stroke for electoral advantage. Wait until somebody on AP side takes advantage of this plight and rally the population, then India will have another northeast, right at the centre. The entire cabinet committee of the UPA should be prosecuted and put in jail for this crime. On the other side with Rs 14000 crores/year surplus, KCR can do any kind of bandhs and gimmicks to finish off whatever is left in SA.
Andhra ppl deserve this for electing YSR twice, and falling for the bogus claims of chiranjeevi and PRP!!!

what about the people of UP who elected the Mulayam singh gang?

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 31 May 2014 20:39

A suggestion from an outsider. Name the airport after a Telegu hero from the past. Otherwise this naming and renaming based on political consideration will continue.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 01 Jun 2014 06:31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0doX82 ... e=youtu.be

gpati · Post by **gpati** » 01 Jun 2014 08:44

Telugu news papers Eeenadu and Andhrajyothy are projecting soft-hindutva. References to religious conversions and Turashka invasions are being made first time in recent history. Before, it used to be somewhat Andhrabhoomi only.

One good thing about TG statehood is, it is making both sides to search for their roots.

Eenadu Sunday TG Edition

Eenadu Sunday AP Edition

Andhrajyothy Editorial

తరతరాలుగా క్రైస్తవ మతాన్ని ఆచరిస్తున్న పాశ్చాత్యులు ఎవరైనా మన దేశం వస్తే దేవాలయాలను సందర్శిస్తారు. బొట్టు పెట్టుకుంటారు. ప్రసాదాలు తింటారు. మన దేశంలో కొత్తగా క్రైస్తవ మతాన్ని స్వీకరిస్తున్నవారు మాత్రం ఇందుకు విరుద్ధంగా వ్యవహరిస్తున్నారు. అందుకే కాబోలు కొత్తగా మతం పుచ్చుకున్నవారికి గుర్తులెక్కువ అంటారు. పాశ్చాత్య దేశాలకు చెందిన క్రైస్తవులకు లేని పట్టింపులు మన దేశంలోని క్రైస్తవులకు ఎందుకు ఉండాలని లౌకికవాదులుగా చెప్పుకొనేవారు ఎప్పుడూ ప్రశ్నించరు.

ఈ రాష్ట్రంలో జరుగుతున్న మత మార్పిడులనే తీసుకోండి. హిందువులను క్రైస్తవులుగా మార్చే కార్యక్రమం రాష్ట్రంలో గత పదేళ్లుగా విస్తరించింది. దీన్ని తప్పుపట్టని లౌకికవాదులు, క్రైస్తవులుగా మారిన వారిని తిరిగి హిందూ మతంలోకి చేర్చే కార్యక్రమాన్ని ఎవరైనా చేపడితే మాత్రం విమర్శిస్తారు.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 01 Jun 2014 12:05

cross posted from Modi thread:

Andra Pradesh is going to be fresh BJMARU state from tomorrow. With huge debt and 14K hole in the first year of its budget the state will be the worst position financially in the entire nation. Yesterday CBN met NM and AJ has asked for help from Delhi. It seems fresh promises were made again. But no details were reported so for. The ordinance for transfer of some villages going to be submerged to AP for Polavaram Project is now issued. NM personally showed great empathy during elections. It is his personal word on support made BJP and CBN win seats in AP. If some serious support is not given by NM now, AP will be a failed state and 25 MP seats will go to EJ and mafia B team of Jagan in 2019.
In the new Telangana as per reports KCR is also trying to kick out lot of people whom his gang describes of Andra people. Particularly Government employees. Even a War Room is created for that purpose. By all indications attacks of Government servants is a start only and soon others will be attacked. BJP under SS is active in supporting KCR gang. Local BJP leaders like Kishan Reddy are all supporters of KCR during Telangana agitation. Since Kashmiri Pundits were not cared for by anyone including BJP Delhi gang (some noises being made now on Kashmiri Pundits after NM has come to Delhi which I am sure will result into serious action soon), expecting any protection from BJP minus NM for Telugu people now being kick out from Telangana state by KCR is too much.
As per the scheme of division the law and order is supposed to be under Delhi for 10 years, but nothing is being done on the threats of KCR. KCR do not even recognize August 15th as Independence Day. He is now closely associated with MIM. Nizam reference to UN is still pending with UN. So there will be serious Security challenges in Telangana also.
Narasimhan who was made gov of AP and Telangana now is a close supporter of Mafia queen and NM made a serious mistake and allowed him to continue and made in gov of both the states. This mean GOI will be mislead by Narasimhan and KCR kicks out few lakh people in near future. Allowing Narasimhan and other mafia gov in many states is a serious risk for NM. Hope NM immediately dismisses the mafia Rajpals across the nation and does some serious law and order action in respect of actions of KCR gang.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Jun 2014 16:46

Dasari wrote:As the new govt in AP is about to take over, it is getting more and more clear how bad the division was for AP. The UPA govt basically ruined one region to take political advantage in another region. The new state will start with a deficit of Rs 14000 crores per year, that is a whopping 25% of the budget for a state that starts with huge debt and little income. They just created a new BIMARU state - perhaps the 'A' stands for andhra pradesh. On top of this they have to pay for the stupidity of CBN in the form of Rs 80000 crores for forgiving farmer's loans. Now he is taking it as prestige issue to build a new capital at Vijayawada- Guntur at huge cost. He better sit outside the parliament and do the begging job with lot more intensity and hope to get some pennies from center.

It is amazing how Indian union can deprive 5 crore people in one stroke for electoral advantage. Wait until somebody on AP side takes advantage of this plight and rally the population, then India will have another northeast, right at the centre. The entire cabinet committee of the UPA should be prosecuted and put in jail for this crime. On the other side with Rs 14000 crores/year surplus, KCR can do any kind of bandhs and gimmicks to finish off whatever is left in SA.

Boss< I think some of this is Rumor Mongering, right now all Liquor Excise and VAT returns for Petrol, FMCG items and all consumer goods will filed at the State HQ in Hyderabad, Companies will now have to separate the sales made between AP and Telegnana. Nobody would have done this till date.
Then we can expect a much Higher share of Liquor excise and Vat to flow to AP.

As an accountant, nobody talies Vat liabilities District wise, they just total all Invoice liabilities and pay it, it can however be done with Extra Manpower and once the ERP systems/excel spreadsheets capture the information.

In Govt circles, Revenue is generally reported where registered office is given . For exg for HUL, Income Tax will belong to Mumbai circle even though the Revenue and profit of HUL will come from operations all over India. Similarly, many companies will Sales all over AP would have registered thier Offices in Hyderabad and paying VAT and filing returns from Hyderabad circle. This in Govt departments will be reported as Income from Hyderabad circle.

Only now we will see COmpanies spliting thier VAT and Excise Liquor returns we will the real Revenue of Seemandhra portions of AP.

Vamsi.R · Post by **Vamsi.R** » 01 Jun 2014 18:20

Today is the last day for United Andhra Pradesh