Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 31 May 2014 08:43

^^^

This is the most apt and humourous video for Bakistan.

The multitude of brooms is akin to the alphabet soup of jihadi organizations! To top it all off, the magic hat is islamic too, with crescent moon and star!

Using Lahori logic, Bakistan can now claim Mickey was a muslim!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 May 2014 09:54

RCase, In my view the sorcerer is UK, the apprentice is US and the cauldron is TSP.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 31 May 2014 11:45

ramana wrote:RCase, In my view the sorcerer is UK, the apprentice is US and the cauldron is TSP.

RCase wrote:^^^
This is the most apt and humourous video for Bakistan.

The multitude of brooms is akin to the alphabet soup of jihadi organizations! To top it all off, the magic hat is islamic too, with crescent moon and star!

Using Lahori logic, Bakistan can now claim Mickey was a muslim!

Of course, mickey was a muslim(bpuh). You must be new around here. I didnt like all that ankle flashing by minnie though. I mean all right Mickey married a westerner, but after conversion at least hijab should have been shown.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 31 May 2014 11:53

This picture of Nawaz 'chairing' a high-power meeting with his COAS and Ministers of Interior, Defence and various secretaries shows the situation in STFU-TSP

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 31 May 2014 11:59

SSridhar wrote: This picture of Nawaz 'chairing' a high-power meeting with his COAS and Ministers of Interior, Defence and various secretaries shows the situation in STFU-TSP

These people must have some tremendous ability to read/write backwards. There is not a technology instrument in sight, ever, in these meetings.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 31 May 2014 12:25

Paki kills wife, but son "forgives" him - so he is set free as per Shariah-compliant Paki law.
Kufr call this a "dark" tale, but we know that all's "fair" in love and war.

Fair tale of love and murder in Pakistan's rural heartland

partha · Post by **partha** » 31 May 2014 12:29

SSridhar wrote:

This picture of Nawaz 'chairing' a high-power meeting with his COAS and Ministers of Interior, Defence and various secretaries shows the situation in STFU-TSP

zoomed in to better reflect the reality -

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 31 May 2014 13:09

(UK,US,Saudi,China combined- the three and half fathers) is Mickey. Pakistan (state & non-state actors) is Broom(s).. Unfortunately, I do not see a master capable of stopping this farce eventually. The real story is bound to have a sad ending.

partha · Post by **partha** » 31 May 2014 14:21

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/why-e ... 50847.html

Doval was the man who dared to sneak deep into Pakistan at the risk of his life and remained in that country incognito for years, delivering virtually real time intelligence on Pakistan’s Kahuta nuclear plant.

Seems like Kahuta was infiltrated.
Flurry of articles in the media about Ajit Doval and his adventures. Psy ops?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 31 May 2014 14:51

Will the Iskander Mirza-Ayub, Ayub-Yahya, ZAB-Zia, Nawaz-Musharraf theme playout once again between Nawaz-Raheel ?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 May 2014 15:04

Shreeman wrote:
SSridhar wrote: This picture of Nawaz 'chairing' a high-power meeting with his COAS and Ministers of Interior, Defence and various secretaries shows the situation in STFU-TSP
These people must have some tremendous ability to read/write backwards. There is not a technology instrument in sight, ever, in these meetings.

These guys are good at advancing backwards - as they did in all wars - while they reached the goal of military defeat before India

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 31 May 2014 16:22

Well there is a phone!...what technology instruments do you want to see. All are suspect to being bugged and hacked by unkil. I read somewhere, for a while even the russkies were using only typewriters when the NSA (US) scandal was at its peak. Pakis are ahead of the pack.

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 31 May 2014 16:22

Is this break up important ?.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/world ... 41193&_r=0

arun · Post by **arun** » 31 May 2014 16:47

I have noticed that pictures that show the male grand poobahs of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan like COAS, PM and President seated, they almost always show them sitting with knees apart.

Is there for males some Mohammadden injunction against crossing legs at the ankles or supporting one leg on the other legs thighs

Or is this some form of attempting to project martial prowess

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 31 May 2014 17:26

I think, legs open is more dominant body language...

arijitkm · Post by **arijitkm** » 31 May 2014 17:40

Who’s afraid of Pakistan’s military?

The general impression people outside Pakistan have of its military is that it is the most powerful institution there which determines every move by civilian representatives, particularly those who have supposedly been given the permission to be elected to higher office and govern the country. This perception may be more pronounced in India, where Mr. Nawaz Sharif’s recent visit for the swearing-in of Prime Minister Narendra Modi was seen as a very “bold move,” perhaps going against the military’s wishes, yet showing the mettle of the twice-dismissed elected Prime Minister of Pakistan. Little do people outside Pakistan know that in the last month, the social media in Pakistan — which is far from being a mere plaything in the hands of radicals and anti-military types — has been scoffing at Pakistan’s military for the situation it finds itself in today. From being an institution which governed and managed the entire country (for a decade, its two wings, the east and the west), it has now been reduced to one involved in issues as varied as imposing a ban on a television channel to preventing newspapers from a media house being distributed in cantonment areas. As a well-respected newspaper editor tweeted recently, “good to know the gens now have cable management as part of their job description. One would have thought DHAs [Defence Housing Authorities] & bakeries were enuff.” Another popular participant added, “used to be time when Pakistan army used to overthrow governments. Now they are overthrowing news channels. Sigh. How the mighty have fallen!”
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jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 31 May 2014 17:41

For those BRFites who might wonder how jihadis, who were allies of the Pakistani army and created by the Paki army went out of control, watch this great Mickey Mouse cartoon

How apt it is ? Even cap micky is wearing depicts Paki flag of crescent moon and stars. Master magician looks like Unkil.

It shows how great prophet Walt Disney was ? He created a cartoon of sad real story of future.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 31 May 2014 17:47

shiv wrote: These guys are good at advancing backwards - as they did in all wars - while they reached the goal of military defeat before India

Finally I understand their Afghanistan strategy. As they advance backwards fighting the Afghans, they hope to overrun India.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 31 May 2014 18:11

shiv wrote:For those BRFites who might wonder how jihadis, who were allies of the Pakistani army and created by the Paki army went out of control, watch this great Mickey Mouse cartoon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHTnJNGvQcA

Infact it also offers a unique solution to the Baki problem along the same lines and that is use automated drones with hard AI (aka AI-Complete) to search and destroy Baki rats and terrorists within Bakistan.

Once we have enough power to corrupt the Baki elites,a few of them can be co-opted to allow automated "elimination" drones to roam the sky and the earth of Bakistan with a target elimination list. Once a baki fits the profile the drone starts the elimination process and alerts the nearby drones about the target, which them swarm into the area and make sure the target is eliminated completely.

With a large number of automated drones roaming bakistan, we can be assured that the chance survival of anyone fitting the target profile is close to zero. The mathematical proof is as follows

: Drones can be more easily reproduced than Baki rats and since the drones are more efficient in their kills by design. The Baki rats stand no chance. It is also not mass murder since we are profiling the target before engaging it.

I have a copyrighted term for it : Statistical Weapon Supremacy. The weapon on our side can hunt, kill and be reproduced more efficiently than Bakis can run, hide and reproduce. Statistically, their chance of surviving this is zero. Israel runs a slightly less automated version of this strategy, so does the US and we need to get into the act.

We need to invest heavily in automated drone and hard AI tech. That is the only way to tackle asymmetric jeehardi warfare from the Bakis. There is no other conventional way to win this war.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 31 May 2014 19:20

Iran denies extending completion date of IP gas pipeline

TEHRAN - Iran has denied extending the completion date of the Iran-Pakistan (IP) gas pipeline project from December 2014 to the end of next year, agency reported.

The news agency quoted Iran's Deputy Oil Minister for International and Trade Affairs Ali Majedi as saying that Iran had not reached any agreement with Pakistan to push back the project's completion date. Earlier senior officials from Pakistan's petroleum ministry told that Iran and Pakistan had postponed the project's completion date to 2015.

The officials claimed that during Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's recent visit to Iran, both countries had agreed to extend the project's deadline by one year. Iran invested US$2 billion to construct the pipeline on its side of the border but Pakistan failed to do the same on its side. Iran committed two tranches of US$250 million each to lay Pakistan's part of the pipeline but recently declined to provide financing saying it was ready to provide gas but not funds.

Question for BR-F Gurus : If Pakistan does not have US$ 500 Million for the Iran-Pakistan Gas Pipe Line then where will it get the Forex to pay the Indian Traders for Indian Imports as also Electricity, Petroleum Products and Gas from India?

As such all this "Sing - Song" about India-Pakistan Trade is a Huge Balloon of Pindi Chana Gas!
Cheers

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 May 2014 20:40

A_Gupta wrote:
shiv wrote: These guys are good at advancing backwards - as they did in all wars - while they reached the goal of military defeat before India
Finally I understand their Afghanistan strategy. As they advance backwards fighting the Afghans, they hope to overrun India.

LOL! Beware of such words because they may foretell the future. If the Pakistani army gets sidelined and discredited (by some magic) Pakistan will turn to India because, as I have pointed out many times in the past, Pakistan is geographically, economically and agriculturally related to India. The crops they grow are the crops we eat. There is no better export market for Pakis than India. All this talk of conduit for central Asian/Chinese oil is utter nonsense. That simply will not happen. The geography is unfavourable. New routes will have to be conjured up and if one argues that technology can achieve all that then there is the matter of cost, which has to be better than alternative routes. Finally - the biggest drawback is Pakistan and its radical Islam which is taking that country exactly nowhere. Everyone knows this but no one wants to say it. But it needs to be said. Islam has done more to pull Pakistan down than anything or anyone else. Thank Allah for Islam.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 31 May 2014 20:43

shiv wrote: What this has resulted in is EXACTLY what you have said - i.e. a gradual reduction of Paki army political clout and increase in jihadi clout. The US tried to sidestep this using fake assumptions based possibly on Paki promises. The US thought that Pakistan could really pull off the act of nurturing India specific jihadis while preventing jihads in general from hurting US interests. In fact jihadis under Paki guidance were expected to promote US interests like freedom and democracy. This has failed because jihad is not a Pakistani idea - it is lifted from Islam and probably the Quran/hadith/sura.

If C.Fair is to be believed - the US thought Muslims are good just like Christians until 2001 (9/11) They have started having other thoughts after 9/11. That means that it is entirely to our advantage to ensure that the US keeps getting attacked by Pakistani jihadis - and this in fact is just what has happened. the US has responded by paying the Pakistani army more (after 9-11) thinking that this will stop jihadis from attacking US interests. But the US has not realized that the Pakistani army itself is a jihadi force. The Paki army was the best specifically anti-India jihadi force in the world with enough discipline to avoid attacking the US, but after they lost all wars against India they have preserved themselves by letting Lashkars do the job. And the lashkars are now out of control.

Shiv-ji,
I agree with you that the US has been funding Pakistan for its own ends, and keeping India boxed in inside the subcontinent is one of them (yes, Pakistan has other uses for US, like destabilising Iran, keeping the Afghan cauldron from boiling over, etc). But the Christine Fair video looks like a bit of a self-forgiveness attempt to me. I don't think the US ever thought that the Muslims were like Christians (their own Fundie wing has been spewing venom against Islam for generations). My own analysis is that even the occasional attack on the US by the Lashkari Jihadists is an acceptable price for them (US) to pay, for other services rendered by Pakistan. And America's operational weapon in this region is the Pak army, which is the cheapest weapon the US has in the region - all other possibilities would be more expensive, and problematic. Without the Pak army in place, the US cannot control the other Lashkari Jihadists (who spew fire and brimstone against the US). In that sense, is it not in our interest to ensure the weakening of the Pakistani army/ISI, so that the Jihadists become more uncontrollable, and thus, tend to hit the US more (more prestige to the Jihadi that hits the Dajjal as opposed to the lowly Kufr)? Making the Jihadists more uncontrollable won't hurt us anymore than the Pak Army woud, but will hurt the US, which will be forced to look for an alternative, if the Pak Army is incapable of delivering what it is supposed to do.

The Lashkars cannot be controlled as long as the Pakistan army is training and funding them as autonomous "non state" forces to hit India. The Pakistan army will not stop training or funding them as long as they have the money and the incentive - which comes from US aid and US arms. If the US thinks the Paki army is good we (India) cannot convince them. But we can ensure that the Pakistan army continues to feel very threatened by us so that they keep on funding and arming Lashkars. Those Lashkars will attack anyone - including the US. This will be a vicious circle with no end - but we have no other option.

The fear that has been expressed is that after the US leaves Afghanistan, the Paki army will simply prevail and things will return to the bad old days. There is an interesting thing here. For India "bad old days" is from 1947, For USA, bad old days is after 2001. If post US withdrawal Afghanistan goes so far out of control that training camps sending jihadis to attack Europe and US targets - I think it will be a good thing for India. It will teach the US that the problem lies in propping up the Pakistan army. Of course jihadis will attack us as well. But we have been fighting that since 1947. The US only opened its eyes after 2001. And they looked in the wrong direction.

We should not convince the US. Let jihadis attack US interests and do the convincing. All we need to do is to look after ourselves and not solve any problems for the US. The US has never ever been interested in solving the jihad problem that India has faced from 1947. They are not about to start solving Indian problems now. But if that jihad hits the US - it's a good thing (for India) to have the US and jihadis hitting each other

Basically, what you are saying is that India has no interest in any US-Pakistan dynamics. That India is facing a war of attrition and can win it only by becoming stronger itself, sustaining attacks in the meantime, but pushing ahead. The war of attrition can be only won when India can force US (and the other fourfathers) to make choices between India and Pakistan finally, which the Indians at the moment, do not have?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 May 2014 20:45

Guddu wrote:I think, legs open is more dominant body language...

The spider of Islamism probably bit them there preventing closing the legs.

Hakims can elaborate on that condition.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 May 2014 21:02

ramana wrote:
Guddu wrote:I think, legs open is more dominant body language...
The spider of Islamism probably bit them there preventing closing the legs.

Hakims can elaborate on that condition.

Ramana - I think Pakis are actively taught these things. How to sit. How to appear in front of a camera etc. A lot is definitely choreographed. I can't prove it - but it looks like that to me.

Legs together and arms folded is a "defensive" posture - "I am not going to give anything away". Legs apart is relaxed. You can fool another party in negotiation by faking body language. Politicians do it all the time but those who wear dark glasses probably know that their eyes tell the truth.

Buth Vajpayee and MMS appear somewhat defensive - but the thing about ALL Paki pictures is the fact that everyone sits in that legs apart posed. This is definitely choreographed and practised.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 May 2014 21:04

nageshks wrote: Making the Jihadists more uncontrollable won't hurt us anymore than the Pak Army woud, but will hurt the US, which will be forced to look for an alternative, if the Pak Army is incapable of delivering what it is supposed to do.

Yes

nageshks wrote:Basically, what you are saying is that India has no interest in any US-Pakistan dynamics. That India is facing a war of attrition and can win it only by becoming stronger itself, sustaining attacks in the meantime, but pushing ahead. The war of attrition can be only won when India can force US (and the other fourfathers) to make choices between India and Pakistan finally, which the Indians at the moment, do not have?

Yes

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 31 May 2014 22:17

Taliban Prisoner Swap Frees U.S. Soldier Held Nearly 5 Years - NYTimes

The lone American prisoner of war from the Afghan conflict, captured by insurgents nearly five years ago, has been released to American forces in exchange for five Taliban prisoners held at the Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, detention facility, Obama administration officials said Saturday.

The soldier, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, was handed over to American Special Operations forces inside Afghanistan about 10:30 a.m. Saturday by a group of 18 Taliban, officials said.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 31 May 2014 22:24

And not surprisingly at all:

The United States believes Bergdahl had been held for the bulk of his captivity in Pakistan, the official said. It was unclear when he was moved to Afghanistan.

U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan is released

saip · Post by **saip** » 31 May 2014 22:27

Whatever happened 'we never negotiate with terrorists' thingy?

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 31 May 2014 22:50

saip wrote:Whatever happened 'we never negotiate with terrorists' thingy?

thats a lie only and only for the goebellian consumption of its sheep.

Other than the sheep, every one knows what they do.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 May 2014 22:56

A_Gupta wrote:
shiv wrote: These guys are good at advancing backwards - as they did in all wars - while they reached the goal of military defeat before India
Finally I understand their Afghanistan strategy. As they advance backwards fighting the Afghans, they hope to overrun India.

I think this validate the Paki claim of Being Master of Consistent Backward Thrust To Gain Forward Motion.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 01 Jun 2014 00:29

A_Gupta wrote:
shiv wrote: These guys are good at advancing backwards - as they did in all wars - while they reached the goal of military defeat before India
Finally I understand their Afghanistan strategy. As they advance backwards fighting the Afghans, they hope to overrun India.

shiv wrote:LOL! Beware of such words because they may foretell the future. If the Pakistani army gets sidelined and discredited (by some magic) Pakistan will turn to India because, as I have pointed out many times in the past, Pakistan is geographically, economically and agriculturally related to India. The crops they grow are the crops we eat. There is no better export market for Pakis than India. All this talk of conduit for central Asian/Chinese oil is utter nonsense. That simply will not happen. The geography is unfavourable. New routes will have to be conjured up and if one argues that technology can achieve all that then there is the matter of cost, which has to be better than alternative routes. Finally - the biggest drawback is Pakistan and its radical Islam which is taking that country exactly nowhere. Everyone knows this but no one wants to say it. But it needs to be said. Islam has done more to pull Pakistan down than anything or anyone else. Thank Allah for Islam.

Shiv Ji :

I have been making this statement to various commentators on Indian and Pakistani affairs. You are the First One with similar views!

In addition I feel that the Port of Gwadar will take another 10 maybe 20 years before it can achieve any significant Cargo throughput!

Cheers

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 01 Jun 2014 01:56

This is a serious event. Pakistan launches Afghan airstrikes after attack

Taliban fighters attacked several Pakistani military posts along the Afghan border Saturday, sparking an hour long gun battle that included Pakistan launching airstrikes into Afghanistan, authorities said.

Two Pakistani military officers blamed the local Pakistani Taliban for the attack, saying dozens of fighters from the group crossed into Pakistan overnight to stage the attack.

Gen. Abdul Habib Sayedkhaili, the provincial police chief of Kunar province, said two Pakistani helicopters crossed into his country and opened fire in Dangam district. Their attack killed five Afghan civilians and wounded 10, Sayedkhaili said.

Pakistani forces fired mortar shells into Afghanistan throughout the day Saturday

What do you think will be the Afghan response?

So what do the pakis do to hide their actions? Pakistan protests against cross-border fire on military post

Pakistan on Saturday lodged strong protest with the Afghan chargé d'affaires against a cross-border attack from Afghanistan

Good grief!!

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 01 Jun 2014 02:04

^
India must immediately help source some third party Manpads for ANA - preferably Soviet or Chinese make while maintaining our deniability.

Methinks Afghans will anyway respond with an IED mubarak on TSPA. They seem to have dealings with many groups operating in Pakiland.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 01 Jun 2014 02:31

Hizb Al-Tahrir Rally at Al-Aqsa Mosque Calls on Pakistan Army to Liberate Jerusalem from Jews' Filth

Link to video:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4290.htm

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 01 Jun 2014 05:44

jrjrao wrote:And not surprisingly at all:
The United States believes Bergdahl had been held for the bulk of his captivity in Pakistan, the official said. It was unclear when he was moved to Afghanistan.
U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan is released

I wonder if the military is going to proclaim him as a returning hero, or are they going to court-martial his a$$ when he gets back stateside.

For those not in the know, the reason he got captured in the first place is because he willingly walked away from his post to join some of his local afghan militia "friends", and went up to the hills to drink and smoke some of Afghanistan's finest. His "friends" handed him to the Taliban. By the way, he got caught drinking earlier and got his ass chewed out and was talking about heading to the hills to become some kinda swami.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Jun 2014 06:02

shiv wrote: But it needs to be said. Islam has done more to pull Pakistan down than anything or anyone else.

The paradox is that the land where Islam originated and where it is practised strictly has flourished beyond imagination whereas the only country to be formed on the basis of Islam and whose Amy is taked with not only defending geographical borders but also ideological borders of Islam has gone down the tube. Allah has been singularly cruel to Pakistan.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Jun 2014 07:16

ArmenT wrote: I wonder if the military is going to proclaim him as a returning hero, or are they going to court-martial his a$$ when he gets back stateside.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/3 ... Right-Wing

It is all political.

This from January 2011
http://www.militaryringinfo.com/service ... -sergeant/

He was abducted in June of 2009 while he was a Pfc in the US Army. He has been promoted twice since he has been in captivity.

PS: also see http://www.army.mil/media/201238/

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Jun 2014 07:21

jrjrao wrote:Hizb Al-Tahrir Rally at Al-Aqsa Mosque Calls on Pakistan Army to Liberate Jerusalem from Jews' Filth

Link to video:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4290.htm

The man whose wife has run away fantasizes about having affairs with the most desirable models and actresses.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Jun 2014 07:27

Peregrine wrote:
In addition I feel that the Port of Gwadar will take another 10 maybe 20 years before it can achieve any significant Cargo throughput!

Cheers

Even if the port of Gwadar is made totally ready by noon today, there remains the problem of actually building an all weather road through the cold, high, crumbly Himalayas. The Karakorum highway, blocked by a landslide 3 years ago remains blocked.

If you look at the old "silk route" you see that it never passed through what is now Pakistan to reach the sea. reaching the sea there was a trade dead end. It remains that way today.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 01 Jun 2014 07:30

shiv wrote:The man whose wife has run away fantasizes about having affairs with the most desirable models and actresses.

Must be exceptionally desperate/clueless/confounded, if they find Pakis to be that option..