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Aditya_V wrote:[
Boss< I think some of this is Rumor Mongering, right now all Liquor Excise and VAT returns for Petrol, FMCG items and all consumer goods will filed at the State HQ in Hyderabad, Companies will now have to separate the sales made between AP and Telegnana. Nobody would have done this till date.
Then we can expect a much Higher share of Liquor excise and Vat to flow to AP.
I respectfully disagree. For the last 6 months, due to intense lobbying from both sides, govt left no stone unturned to come up with accurate projections of the state's evenues after split. Everything we talk about is based on projections only. Don't assume the projected deficit of Rs 14000 is not validated many times by T protagonists. In fact, if all applicable taxes are not shifted to AP, the deficit will be even more. I saw another figure yesterday that was Rs 18000 crore/year. Perhaps the difference in the numbers are coming based on varying assumptions on how quickly the revenues will be shifted to new state. But there is no doubt that there will be a huge deficit to deal with.

Unless they come up with huge revenue sources very quickly in terms of new manufacturing, shifting of IT etc, the govt in AP has to shrink. Several welfare programs need to be cut. That is the most prudent thing to do, and slowly climb up. Don't expect Modi govt to shell out Rs 1-2 lakh crores to AP. As far as country is concerned, it is only one of 22 states that need help. Artificially uplifting it with huge real estate investment with huge borrowed money in VIjayawada-Guntur ( what CBN is planning) is wrong thing to do. It can camouflage underlying hollowness in the state's economy, but 5 years from now the state will be in even bigger hole. If they can complete Polavaram in this 5 years, that will be a good start.I hope CBN worry about longevity of the state's economy, not 2019 elections.
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There is a well-entrenched RE/Drug/Liquor/Hawala mafia in Hyderabad that is controlled by Seemandhra people for past 2-3 decades. KCR is trying to takeover this space now that he is in power using Telangana sentiment. He is taking MIM help because it has the button-men.

We need to separate this from general state formation issues.
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Congratulations to Newly Born state of Telangana and (Residuary State of ) Andhra Pradesh.

May the people of these states live in peace and prosper and contribute to the nation Building.

I wish them well and All the Best.



न जायते म्रियते वा कदाचि-
न्नायं भूत्वा भविता वा न भूयः ।
अजो नित्यः शाश्वतोऽयं पुराणो-
न हन्यते हन्यमाने शरीरे ॥
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^+1008.

I hope Telangana becomes the Bharatiya state that rest of India can emulate.

All the best to them.
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Tehelka's Post mortem on Congress in AP

http://www.tehelka.com/congress-demolis ... ana-curse/

Congress Demolished in AP

Among the many heartbreaks for the Congress on 16 May, counting day of the 16th General Election, the most painful must have been the party’s fate in Telangana and Seemandhra. The bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh, carried out in an anarchic, cynical manner, gave the Congress its biggest debacle this election season. In what is nothing short of a nightmare for the party, it scored a humiliating duck in the 175 Assembly and 25 Lok Sabha seats in residual Andhra Pradesh.

To put things in perspective, the undivided state had given the Congress 156 of the 280 Assembly seats and 31 of the 42 Lok Sabha seats in the 2009 election. Andhra was thus a key state that enabled the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance to romp back to power that year.


This time, all the calculations of the Congress high command went haywire. The party is now left licking its wounds in Telangana and struggling to revive itself in Seemandhra.

In Telangana, where the Congress expected the electorate to acknowledge its noble intentions, it bagged only 23 of the 119 Assembly seats and just two of the 17 Lok Sabha seats. K Chandrasekhar Rao’s Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS), which reneged on its promise to ally with the Congress, bagged 62 Assembly seats and will form the first government in Telangana with a comfortable majority. The Asaduddin Owaisi-led All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM), with seven MLAs, is mulling an alliance with the TRS. The new state also elected 11 MPs from the TRS.

“The Congress could have done much better. But we simply could not convince the people that it was we who made Telangana a reality. Being opportunists, the TRS took all the credit,” says a senior Congress leader on the condition of anonymity. :(( “We went wrong from the initial stages. There was a time when Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh used to make KCR (Chandrasekhar Rao) wait in Delhi for days together. When his time came, he paid back in kind. At least, that’s what he thinks. Unfortunately, we delivered Telangana to him on a platter.”

The Congress was not the only party that bit the dust in Andhra Pradesh. Riding on the Modi wave, the N Chandrababu Naidu-led Telugu Desam Party (TDP) trounced Jagan Mohan Reddy’s Yuvajana Shramika Rythu Congress Party (YSRCP), winning an impressive 108 Assembly and 16 Lok Sabha seats in the state. Interestingly, despite its opposition to the creation of Telangana, the TDP managed to get a respectable 21 Assembly seats and two Lok Sabha seats in the new state, massively upsetting the Congress’ calculations. :?:

To top it all, even the BJP opened its account in undivided Andhra with three Lok Sabha seats and nine Assembly seats. “We were surprised by the result. We did not foresee a defeat at all,” a distraught MV Mysura Reddy, senior leader of the YSRCP, told TEHELKA. “We had expected to get the anti-Congress votes, but they went to the BJP-TDP combine. The margin was just around two percent. They spent much more money as the affluent Kamma community stood by them.” Reddy, however, rubbishes the speculation that some YSR Congress MLAs might cross over to the TDP.

The TDP has made the selection of a new capital for Seemandhra a top priority. “Guntur and Vijayawada are the two cities we are considering. Our chief minister (Naidu) is keen on consulting the people of the state before zeroing in on a capital,” says KV Prasad, TDP spokesperson. “Employment generation, rapid industrial growth and upliftment of farmers will be our major goals.”

Behind the TDP’s resounding success is a spectacular story of resurgence. Just six months ago, a desperate Naidu was more than willing to make his party a tugboat for the BJP in the uncertain waters. Out of power in the state since 2004 and managing just six Lok Sabha seats in 2009, the TDP had been staring at irrelevance. The party was cash-strapped and its MLAs had begun to desert it to join the YSRCP.

Naidu of 2014 had shrunk in every sphere compared to the Naidu of 2004, when he was thought to be invincible. Then, he had been at the helm of the state for a decade since 1994. His urbane image, bolstered by the impressive development of Hyderabad and other cities in the state, had made him a darling of the privileged classes. The media loved him no less and the feelings were mutual. Providing outside support to the Atal Bihari Vajpayee-led NDA from 1999 to 2004 also meant a cordial relationship with the Centre, which, in turn, was generous in its treatment of the state.

However, just like NDA’s India Shining campaign that turned out to be a big flop, Naidu too bit the dust in the 2004 polls, with the TDP losing 24 of the 29 Lok Sabha seats it had won in 1999. The Congress led by YS Rajasekhara Reddy came to power with a thumping majority, winning 185 of the 294 seats in the Assembly election that year. Since then, the TDP had been struggling with the hope of better days.

No wonder, the BJP expected to deal with a submissive Naidu and fielded candidates according to its own wishes. With its Telangana unit separated from the Andhra one, the saffron party carried out its campaign with a newfound confidence. In the initial stages, Naidu didn’t even figure in the BJP’s campaign plan. For instance, Narendra Modi did not mention Naidu’s name even once in the Nizamabad rally a month ago. However, the TDP has made a comeback and is today in a position to demand multiple berths in the new NDA Cabinet under Modi. :?:

The YSRCP’s defeat has renewed Jagan’s fears of going back to prison. The party had two MPs in the 15th Lok Sabha until they resigned in protest against the decision to form Telangana. The YSRCP’s election campaign had practically begun in March 2012, soon after he was arrested in a disproportionate assets case. His mother Vijayamma and sister Sharmila had started their padyatras then and continued until his release on bail last September. Then, Jagan hit the road immediately, keeping up the momentum.

As a result, the party, which had several MLAs who had deserted the Congress and the TDP, was touted as the favourite in the Andhra Pradesh Assembly polls. Jagan was hoping to become the kingmaker and drive some hard bargains. But the elections results came as a shocker. With just 67 seats, the party is staring at a bleak five-year term in the Opposition. Even Vijayamma lost from Visakhapatnam by a margin of one lakh votes to K Hari Babu of the BJP. The YSRCP has bagged a measly nine Lok Sabha seats, and for obvious reasons, Jagan is offering support to the Modi government without anyone having invited him.

“Modi has made it clear that all MPs and MLAs with criminal cases will be dealt with within a year of the new government. Jagan should not be treated any differently,” a TDP leader told
TEHELKA on the condition of anonymity.

As the two states now move on with the process of bifurcation, the bitterness and political toxicity of the division is yet to subside. However, with both the TDP and the YSRCP in the NDA camp, and the TRS having given ample signs of being a supporter, the true winner in this new scenario is Narendra Modi.

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Then why did they divide AP?
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RamaY wrote:There is a well-entrenched RE/Drug/Liquor/Hawala mafia in Hyderabad that is controlled by Seemandhra people for past 2-3 decades. KCR is trying to takeover this space now that he is in power using Telangana sentiment. He is taking MIM help because it has the button-men.

We need to separate this from general state formation issues.
Really, last I visited Hyderabad each and every liquor store was owned and operated bu non Andhrites. Can you for once stop accusing Andhrites for everything.
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^ does it mean I was correct w.r.t RE/Drug/Hawala mafias?
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RamaY wrote:^ does it mean I was correct w.r.t RE/Drug/Hawala mafias?

Like most Telenganites, you were correct in your hate against Andhrites.
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Is K Chandrashekhara Rao upset? No Telangana formation day invite to Centre yet
Telugu Desam Party (TDP) chief N Chandrababu Naidu had a busy day in Delhi meeting up senior ministers from finance minister Arun Jaitley to the chairman of the 15th finance commission YV Reddy, as he sets out to be the next chief minister of Seemandhra.

He may have had the advantage of being an ally of the ruling BJP at the Centre, but the contrast with his Telangana counterpart, K Chandrashekhara Rao could not be more stark. According to top sources in the government, Rao, whose relationship with the BJP cannot be described as warm and fuzzy hasn't yet extended an invitation to representatives of the Central government for the Telangana state formation day celebrations to be held on June 2nd.

When asked about whether any invitation had arrived from the state, parliamentary affairs minister M Venkaiah Naidu had, while briefing the media on the next parliamentary session, denied that any invitation had been received by anyone in the government. "As far as I know, it hasn't come yet," he said to a question on Thursday.

On Friday too, the answer was the same, although government sources indicated that if the invitation was received in time, a representative "would make it for sure." On Wednesday evening, in fact, KCR as he is popularly known was at the receiving end of a terse phone call from home minister Rajnath Singh.

According to top sources, Singh was disturbed by the fact that the Telangana Rashtra Samithi (TRS) had called for a statewide bandh following signing of an ordinance which merged 200 villages in seven mandals of Bhadrachalam revenue division in Khammam district with Seemandhra as part of the Polavaram irrigation project.

The previous UPA government had declared the project a "national" one and wasn't able to clear the ordinance as the model code of conduct had been locked in place by then. A designated national project comes under the jurisdiction of the Centre, even though land is a state subject. Sources say that Singh had asked KCR "not to aggravate the situation and to act with sober counsel" on the matter. Singh had been worried about the possibility of large scale disturbance in the state.

The bandh passed off peacefully enough but has not endeared both the new governments, Centre and state, to each other. The TRS had been blowing hot and cold vis a vis the BJP throughout the election, muddying the waters between them.

When state BJP men approached KCR for details on who would be invited for the state formation day, they got a cold reception, sources said.
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Telangana CM Designate KCR invites Narendra Modi for swearing-in
Telangana Chief Minister-designate K. Chandrasekhar Rao has decided to personally invite Prime Minister Narendra Modi for an exclusive function to inaugurate the new state of Telangana, about a fortnight after June 2.

Mr Rao had decided against inviting Mr Modi to the Formation Day festivities on Monday as there is no Telangana administration in place right now.

Mr Rao will take oath as the first Chief Minister of Telangana at 8.15 am on June 2 at Raj Bhavan, along with a 12- to 15-strong team, which will be expanded later.

He will be administered the oath of office by E.S.L. Narasimhan, who himself would be sworn-in as Telangana Governor at 6.15 am on Monday.

KCR garu will maintain cordial relationship with the Centre and seek its support for the development of Telangana,” a close aide of Mr Rao said.

It is learnt that Mr Rao, when he calls on Mr Modi would submit a wish list, seeking support for the new state. More specifically, Mr Rao will seek help from the Centre to fulfil the TRS manifesto promises like waiver of farm loans up to Rs 1 lakh, two-bedroom houses for the weaker sections, funding for irrigation projects, and declaring the Pranahita Chevella irrigation project as a national project.
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Andhra Pradesh Minus Telangana: 10 Facts
Ten districts of Andhra Pradesh have been carved out to create India's 29th state Telangana. The new, smaller Andhra Pradesh is made up of the Seemandhra regions which bitterly opposed the bifurcation.

Here are 10 Facts about the new Andhra Pradesh :

1.The people here believe they are getting a raw deal in the split. "There is no capital, no infrastructure, no institutions in Seemandhra," Chandrababu Naidu chief of the Telugu Desam Party said earlier this week after seeking central help for the state, of which he will be the next chief minister.

2.At the core of the Seemandhra region's discontent is that under the bifurcation, it will share capital Hyderabad with Telangana for 10 years, but will eventually have to pick its own capital. Hyderabad, a gleaming IT hub, has 80-90 per cent of jobs.

3.With an area of roughly 1.6 lakh square kilometres and a population of over five crore, Andhra Pradesh will be a larger state than Telangana. It gets to keep the port city of Visakhapatnam and Tirupati, the richest temple town in India.

4.Visakhapatnam, Vijayawada, Guntur, Ongole, Kurnool, Rajahmundry and Tirupati are some of the cities in running to be the capital of Andhra Pradesh after 10 years. Towns like Donakonda and Mangalagiri have also been mentioned.

5.In the assembly elections held along with the general elections, the people of Seemandhra taught the Congress a lesson for pushing to create Telangana. The TDP-BJP alliance won 106 of the 175 assembly seats; the Congress, which has ruled for over four decades in the 57-year-long existence of Andhra Pradesh, could not win a single seat.

6.Chief Minister-designate Chandrababu Naidu, who will take oath on June 8, has invited Prime Minister Narendra Modi for the event. However, a final location for the ceremony has not been finalised; it will be held somewhere between Vijaywada and Guntur.

7.When the Congress-led centre had announced special category status for Seemandhra for five years, the BJP, then in opposition, had demanded that the period be extended to 10 years. When Mr Naidu met Mr Modi recently, he reportedly sought that the promise be kept. "Mr Modi and the finance minister (Arun Jaitley) promised to help build the state," Mr Naidu said.

8.Special category states get financial aid from the centre configured in a manner that 90 per cent of it is deemed as grant, and the remaining 10 per cent is considered a loan. Special category states also get preferential treatment from the Finance Commission in terms of devolution of central tax revenues.

9.Among the development incentives that have been offered to the new Andhra Pradesh in the AP Reorganisation Bill 2014, are four major universities, a super specialty hospital-cum-teaching facility along the lines of the All India Institute of Medical Science, an Indian Institute of Management and an Indian Institute of Technology.

10.One major problem that Mr Naidu's government might not inherit is the problem of Naxalism.While Vizianagaram and Visakhapatnam have reported incidents of left-wing extremism in the past, eight of the ten districts worst hit by Naxalism in Andhra Pradesh will become part of Telangana after bifurcation.
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On the Eve of Its Birth, War Lines Drawn in Telangana?
Inside what is being called a "war room" on the ground floor of the Telangana Rashtra Samithi headquarters in Hyderabad, a team is swiftly sifting through names of government employees to identify those from Seemandhra who work in what will be Telangana, India's 29th state, in a few hours from now.

Government employees have been asked to leak information, complain about colleagues and provide evidence to show why some of them should not be allowed to work for the new government headed by TRS chief KCR (K Chandrasekhar Rao).

In the TRS war room, the team collating data tags names as "Telangana Employee" or "Seemandhra Employee".


Srinivas Goud, a union leader who has been elected MLA, explains, "War Room doesn't mean it is a war. It means on war footing, we want to collect data so that the government can take action. The government as of now has no information because it was 'their' government and even IAS officers were partial."

At stake, the TRS claims, are thousands of jobs that have been wrongly taken by those from outside Telangana. They say the number could be as much as a lakh. Seemandhra employees who work here say the figure is much smaller.

The Seemandhra regions will form the residual Andhra Pradesh state when the state is bifurcated tomorrow. People from there have been bitterly opposed to the bifurcation and the demand for Telangana has vertically divided employees in the state secretariat in Hyderabad.

The tension continues with KCR declaring that he will not allow Seemandhra employees to work for his government. They won't be allowed to cross the gate of the secretariat, he had warned, even if they are allotted to Telangana.

On Saturday night, nearly 10,000 employees got "orders to serve" the Telangana government, on a temporary basis for three months, before a final call is taken.

"If there are false documents, the employee can always be suspended. They are trying to create a fear psychosis so that those from Seemandhra will voluntarily say we want to go from here," said Chinnikrishna, an employee at the Secretariat who belongs to Seemandhra.
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New A.P. faces Rs.15,000-cr. deficit
The process of reorganisation of Andhra Pradesh has come to an end with two successor States — Telangana and Andhra Pradesh — coming into existence. But what is going to be more challenging than the bifurcation process itself is tackling the worrisome financial situation of both the States — more so for the residuary Andhra Pradesh which is facing a whopping revenue deficit of Rs.15,000 crore. Figures churned out by the Finance department and validated by the Accountant-General make it clear that the situation demands lot of financial prudence and judicious revenue expenditure to keep the two States on path of economic development.

As things stand, with all the balance of accounts bifurcated, residuary Andhra Pradesh faces a revenue deficit of Rs.15,691 crore, while Telangana has a revenue surplus of Rs. 3,555 crore for the fiscal 2014-15. Ironically, the united State last year showed a surplus of Rs. 18,651 crore.

Post division, when the successor Andhra Pradesh State has to rebuild its infrastructure right from the new capital city, it just has a resource plan outlay of Rs. 5,791 crore for 2014-15 and it is Rs.18,600 crore plan outlay for Telangana. For the united State the projected plan outlay approved earlier was Rs. 67,000 crore.

But with a staggering internal debt burden of Rs. 1,45,660 crore of the united A.P. to be apportioned between the two States on the basis of population ratio, residuary Andhra Pradesh will be left with a loan burden of Rs. 85,000 crore and Telangana, with about Rs. 61,000 crore. This, after a request to the Centre to waive Rs.18,000 crore out of the total debt burden of Rs. 1,63,169 crore of the united State.

Though the Centre promised to help both the States to rebuild their economies through special category status and tax incentives to the more economically and financially hit residuary Andhra Pradesh, special status for backward districts in both the States, sources admit, it may not be an easy task given the Union government’s commitments to other States.

The promised execution of Polavaram multipurpose project, a national project, to harness thousands of tmcft of Godavari water going waste into the sea every year to help the predominantly agrarian economy of Andhra Pradesh too may not be easy given the protests against merger of submergence villages of Telangana into Andhra Pradesh.

All the above things apart, the singularly worrying factor for both the States is mobilising resources to fulfil populist promises included in the manifesto. The waiver of crop loans, loans availed by self-help groups, particularly in residuary A.P., will be a daunting task given its precarious revenue deficit. No wonder people of Andhra Pradesh keep their fingers crossed, while those of Telangana, on a better financial footing, have reason to be optimistic.
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Jay wrote:
RamaY wrote:There is a well-entrenched RE/Drug/Liquor/Hawala mafia in Hyderabad that is controlled by Seemandhra people for past 2-3 decades. KCR is trying to takeover this space now that he is in power using Telangana sentiment. He is taking MIM help because it has the button-men.

We need to separate this from general state formation issues.
Really, last I visited Hyderabad each and every liquor store was owned and operated bu non Andhrites. Can you for once stop accusing Andhrites for everything.

"ownership" is the first sign of a "legal" enterprise. mafia/drug-running/mob is entirely different from owning a liquor store.

anyway, this discussion should not be mixed up with the govt employee issue that KCR seems to be targeting.

we have discussed the mafia/"underworld" before, with respect to Hyd, Vishakha, Mumbai, etc. that is a different discussion which requires some nuance and subtlety. WHICH is why even KCR/TRS is not bringing it up openly. and NEITHER are the SA-representing elites.

gpati garu,

will respond to your e-khat soon. have been slammed with increased workload, which has made my posting on BRF more sporadic too. but should return to normal soon. or so I'm hoping. anyway, will respond by tmrw. hope your move is going well.
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Who got it wrong?

This IBN live image doesn't show Charminar in Telagana state emblem...

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^
Thats an old design from 2013 before sikular interests overtly played their hand. http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/tela ... 97772.html

The new one is by one Laxman Alley.
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Telangana State Emblem Looks Simple Yet Profound
By S Guru Srikanth | ENS Published: 31st May 2014

HYDERABAD: One look at it and even an unlettered person can say it is the emblem of Telangana, given the simplicity and the inner meaning of its design, that every Telanganite can relate to. Perhaps for that very reason, Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS) chief K Chandrasekhar Rao had approved the design within a couple of hours of its coming to his notice and finalised it as the emblem of Telangana. The man behind the emblem is Laxman Alley, a popular artist hailing from Kadirenigudem, a nondescript village in Atmakur mandal of Nalgonda district. He says he never even dreamt of such a good response to the design, which he designed without much expectations. “A well-wisher of mine, who is a high-level government official, told me about the efforts being made for getting right emblem for Telangana. I wanted to do my bit. The design had been in my mind for a month and it took about a week’s time to compose it,” he says. When Laxman sent his design to the TRS chief, it was approved within a couple of hours.

“KCR garu was very much impressed with it, as it was the very design he was looking for. He did not want any changes to it and after making some superficial changes for the position of the emblem of India in the design, he approved it,” Laxman explains. Rao did not want to break the flow of the words ‘Government of Telangana’ and suggested that the emblem of India (adaptation of the Lion Capital of Ashoka at Sarnath) be brought down a bit. “The design is very simple, yet elegant and meaningful. Even though it is miniaturized, the details on the design are not lost and are well visible,” the artist says. The entire emblem is encircled by a golden circle, which denotes the hope, desire and determination of Telanganites for ‘Bangaru Telangana’ (Golden Telangana), that is well developed in every sector and stands as an example for the entire world to follow.

There are two inner circles, both in green colour, which stand for prosperity and abundant greenery that Telanganites wish for. In between those two inner circles is ‘Government of Telangana’ written in three languages - English, Telugu and Urdu. Inside the innermost circle, the ‘Kakatiya Thoranam’ stands imposing and at the centre of the circle stands Charminar, the majestic symbol of Hyderabad. Encircling the bottom half of the golden circle are the words ‘Satyameva Jayathe’ in Devanagari script. “I had adopted ‘Kakatiya Thoranam’ as it is a popular icon of Telangana. Moreover, in that era, the rulers and people had lived in harmony. In the centre of the emblem sits Charminar, the symbol of the 423-year-old Hyderabad, “jise hum sab, hamara shehar mante hai’ (which we all consider as our city),” he explains.

The significance of placing Charminar at the centre is not lost, given that every Telanganite feels that Hyderabad is the heart of Telangana. The 49-year old artist, who is studying ‘Nakashi’ painting and Dalit Bahujan performative art forms for a PhD at the EFLU, was at loss for words to describe his feeling, when his design was chosen for the emblem of Telangana. “I don’t have words to describe the feeling. It is far greater than any awards and rewards,” he says.
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^ Thank you Liloji.

Jay garu - For a moment I was sad that our Telangana Islamic heritage was undermined.
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Dark day for India as the Feudalists HINOs & anti-national savages usurp power yet again in Deccan - raring to target lakhs of innocents from hinterlands. Only God knows when their hatred is satiated.

Given NaMo's insipid Mauny-baba avatar and inane attitude towards excusing any regional exclusivist chauvinist agenda in the guise of "decentralization" and "empowering states" - don't hope much from center either.

Time perhaps for Seemandhrite "settlers" to unite and launch their own brand of "shiv sena".
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At last Dubai Shekhar realized his dream of becoming a CM thanks to secessionist politics. Same story, names different. In diverse country like India, playing secessionist card whether of anti-state variety or anti-national variety pays well.

KCR: Etching history with a brand of secessionist politics
For his supporters, he is the “Telangana Tiger”, the champion of the Telangana cause and the man who brought their five-decade long struggle for a separate state to its logical conclusion.

Those who follow the politics of Andhra Pradesh would know him as somebody who almost slipped into political oblivion but through his single-point agenda of separatist politics, earned himself the status of first Chief Minister of the Telangana state.

You may choose to disagree with his style of politics, even call him opportunistic. But Kalvakuntla Chandrashekhara Rao, who is popularly known as KCR, has etched his name in history.

First with his hunger strike, which resulted in the December 9, 2009 announcement by the then Home Minister P Chidambaram about the formation of Telangana.

Second, by vigorously pursuing the Congress with constant pressure in the Parliament to ensure that the party does not do a volte face on its mid-night promise.

Third, by steering his party, the Telangana Rashtra Samiti, to a stupendous victory in the recent State Assembly elections, thereby going on to the first Chief Minister of the new state.

KCR is renowned for his powerful oration and his ability to switch between fluent Telugu, Urdu, Hindi and English with ease. He is a Master Gambler who played his cards smartly. Sensing a void in Andhra Pradesh immediately after the chopper crash death of Y. S. Rajashekara Reddy in 2009, he upped the ante for a separate state.

Ever since, Hyderabad has seen violent protests, hunger strikes, a complete shutdown of government functioning and countless disruptions of the Parliament, which has finally rewarded KCR with 63 of the 119 seats in the soon-to-be carved out state in 2014. Having won the both the assembly seat as well as Lok Sabha seat in his home-district of Medak, KCR has chosen the latter to become the Chief Minister.

For those wondering who KCR is, here is a brief journey into his past. 60-year-old KCR was better known as ‘Dubai Shekhar’, before he joined politics. He was an immigration consultant. He started his political career as a low-key member of the Congress and later joined the Telugu Desam Party in 1983.

He won the Siddipet assembly seat four times in a row between 1985 and 1999. He went on to become the Deputy Speaker of the Andhra Pradesh Assembly, a position he resigned in 2001 claiming disillusionment with the TDP for not supporting the people of Telangana.

He formed the TRS, in 2001 and aligned with the Congress’s United Progressive Alliance in 2004, bagging himself a cabinet berth. But in 2006, he split ways for what he called was the UPA’s anti-Telangana sentiment.

In 2007, several senior leaders in his party made headlines for their involvement in a passport scam and human-trafficking. KCR distanced himself from them and expelled them, amidst a flurry of counter accusations that he was deeply entrenched in the scam.

Facing an uncertain future, KCR played the Telangana card once again by getting his partymen to resign all Assembly and Parliamentary seats but this move backfired and they could win back only 7 of the 16 Assembly seats the party gave up, in the bye-elections.

Next came a failed attempt to join hands with the TDP for the State Assembly polls in 2009, which led to a wash out of the TRS.

Eight years after forming the party, the threat of becoming politically irrelevant loomed large before KCR. But YSR’s untimely death in September 2009 and the Congress’s subsequent disarray offered a window of opportunity to the beleaguered TRS, one that KCR has milked to the optimum and has reaped rich dividends.


Rest, as they say, is history.

In 2009, New York Times’ Jim Yardley called him, “A politician who went hungry to redraw India’s map”.

KCR has indeed succeeded in modifying the geographical boundaries of Andhra Pradesh and in the process, has sketched a promising political future for himself.
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I was told Polavaram Irrigation Project is really a river linking project and will be a game changer. Hence the decision not to allow anyone to hold it hostage.
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ramana wrote:I was told Polavaram Irrigation Project is really a river linking project and will be a game changer. Hence the decision not to allow anyone to hold it hostage.
Yes!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polavaram_Project

KCR wants to hold the submerging villages in TG so he can harass AP in return for some of his projects. What he doesn't understand is he need not harass AP to make good for Telangana.
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so, have they decided the capital yet?
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Hmm. TV showing Telegana coming into being to the strains of Nadaswaram playing " Bhagyada Lakshmi Baramma" . Very appropriate. May Lakshmi bless all the people living in Telengana with great prosperity and good fortune.

Same for the Seemandhra folks as well. May Seemandhra rise to it's full potential and be an economic, cultural and intellectual powerhouse and may the talents of it's brilliant, entrepreneurial and highly skilled people be fully realized.
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Seemandhra and Telangana - may the two parts add up to much more than the whole!

Om puranam adah purnam idam purnaat purnam udachyate,
Purnasya purnamaadaaya purnam evaavashishyate.

Om shantih, shantih, shantih.
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Promotion of Urdu is not good for Indian muslims. First, Urdu is not related to Islam outside of Indian sub-continent. Secondly, Muslims are not of single ethnicity. Muslims settled in Tamilnadu or Karnataka or Telangana or Seemandhra speaking in Urdu instead of Tamil, Kannada or Telugu alienates them from their local communities and accelerates the ghettoist mindset one finds among Indian muslims.

Modi-ji's government should take a firmer stand on insisting that muslims in each state learn the language of those states. For most Muslims that would also be their mother tongue.

I am appalled beyond measure to see that Urdu has been given an official language stance in Telangana and also included in the state symbol. Shame on Mr. Rao.
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My best wishes to the new states, Telangana and Seemandhra. May you both prosper and evolve together as twin brothers!
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Im trying to look up the real map of Telangana and Andhra Pradesh after the Bhadrachalam mandals were moved to AP.
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TRS scuba diving wing JAC has detailed maps of those badrachalam mandala that were illegally aquired.
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schinnas wrote:Promotion of Urdu is not good for Indian muslims. First, Urdu is not related to Islam outside of Indian sub-continent. Secondly, Muslims are not of single ethnicity. Muslims settled in Tamilnadu or Karnataka or Telangana or Seemandhra speaking in Urdu instead of Tamil, Kannada or Telugu alienates them from their local communities and accelerates the ghettoist mindset one finds among Indian muslims.

Modi-ji's government should take a firmer stand on insisting that muslims in each state learn the language of those states. For most Muslims that would also be their mother tongue.

I am appalled beyond measure to see that Urdu has been given an official language stance in Telangana and also included in the state symbol. Shame on Mr. Rao.
Why do you Andhras hate us?

Nothing doing. TG Muslims should be taught in Urdu only. If possible all TG people should use only Urdu medium only.
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RamaY wrote:Why do you Andhras hate us?

Nothing doing. TG Muslims should be taught in Urdu only. If possible all TG people should use only Urdu medium only.
:shock:

Is RamaY garu on some of alter ego avataar which brings to the fore sarcasm against the Owaisi types or has someone hacked RamaY garu's account?
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If possible all TG people should use only Urdu medium only.
Yep! and along with Jinn Science and Madrassa Math!
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funny. 29th state formed under a persian name.
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The UPA govt, few days after they pased the AP reorg bill in Parliament, introduced two amendamnets- one is special status to Andhra Pradesh and the other, a clarity on power sharing. As far as the later, it was amended that 85% of current central allocation would be split to the two states as per the population ratio, and only 15% based on consumption in the last 5 years. Now I see this GO 25 that allocates genco power based on current consumption (so 46% to andhra and 54% to Telangana). Why is this discrepancy? Did they fail to pass the amendment? Or does it mean the former pertains to central allocation and the later to states's own generation?

Also, control to 60 % of the generation is given to AP ( it could be higher now as per the new Polavarm ordinance where the lower sileru 450 MW hydro plant also goes to AP), although they have to supply the power to Telangana in the ratio mentioned above? Who pays the cost of generation? As per the ap reorg act, it is like T buying power from AP and they have the first right of refusal. Then, who sets the rate?
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ramana wrote:I was told Polavaram Irrigation Project is really a river linking project and will be a game changer. Hence the decision not to allow anyone to hold it hostage.
Yes,about 80 TMC of water will be transferred from Polavaram to Prakasam barrage. Although this triggers loss of some allocation (30 TMC ??) of Krishna water to AP, the net result is more stability to the delta area, and allocation of more Krishna water to upstream districts of Rayalaseema and Telangana. The main benefit is that we will better utilize Godavari water where more than 5000 TMC ( more than what both states can consume in one year for both agriculture and drinking) going into ocean every year. If both pulichintala balancing reservoir ( between NS and PB ) and polavaram are completed in the next 3 years, it can give the much needed boost to the cash strapped AP state.
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So who had this brillaint idea to balance the rivers in Andhra Pradesh? Truly a modern day Arthur Cotton.

Now add the river linking project to bring Ganga-Brahmaputra waters down south to link to Godavari.
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Telangana (or is it Riyasat-e-Telangana) gets its first Deputy Chief Minister talking his oath in the name of Eshwar and in pure Sanskritised Telugu :roll:


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Now i am 100% sure that creation of Telangana was part of the deal between Sonia and South Asian Sufi-Mullah cartel prior to 2004 elections for Mulsim support to congress.
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New Indian Express says "Aadaab Telangana"

TOIlet says "Salaam Telangana"

Looks like they also subconsciously believe this is rebirth of Nizam State.
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Rony wrote:New Indian Express says "Aadaab Telangana"

TOIlet says "Salaam Telangana"

Looks like they also subconsciously believe this is rebirth of Nizam State.
Lets be honest for a moment.

Our new Nizam, KCR, himself said many times he wanted to restore Naizam kingdom with its borders intact. He promised 14% reservations for our Muslim brotheren. Our food is now half Turkic/Mughalai/Persian you name it but definitely not Seemandhra.

There is nothing to be subconscious. We are in open only.
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RamaY wrote: Our food is now half Turkic/Mughalai/Persian you name it but definitely not Seemandhra

Reminds me the debate i had with a hardcore T-fan. He was into Lahoric logic and saying Ts are Non veg and Biryani is T crusine while Andhras are Veggies who eat "Papannam" :rotfl:
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