Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

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SSridhar wrote:Buses torched in Karachi upon Altaf bhai's arrest, Straits Times
Angry protesters in Pakistan's port city of Karachi on Tuesday torched buses, rickshaws and a car following reports that MQM party Altaf Hussain had been arrested in London, officials said.

At least six buses, five auto-rickshaws and one car were destroyed, they said.

Altaf Hussain's arrest in UK is a CBM to TSP just as the release of five the Taliban terrorists for one US trooper.
Both are related to 2014 troop drawdown.

Essentially baksheesh to get their goals through.


They dont negotiate with terrorists.

Only with backers.
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SSridhar wrote:Sikh Council Gives 5 day deadline to Government for arrest of desecration suspects - DAWN
KARACHI: The Pakistan Sikh Council has warned the government that the community will launch a countrywide protest movement if the all the culprits who had desecrated their holy book, Guru Granth Sahib, are not arrested by May 31.
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Giving details of the incidents in which the copy of their holy book was burnt, he said that the incidents were reported from Dal Darbar in Pano Aqil, Guru Nanak Darbar Mehar in Dadu district, Samadha Ashram, Sajal Sher Jhulelal Darbar and Khatwari Darbar in Shikarpur district. Only this month, similar incidents were reported from Bhagnari Temple in Karachi’s Lea Market and Jai Ram Das Darbar in Madheji, Shikarpur, on May 6 and 7, respectively.

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^^
There is a sustained effort by ISI to show Hindus as the culprits of Granth Saheb Ji's burning across Pakiland.
The Pakis are playing both Hindus Sikhs against each other as if its a dogfighting match.

News as reported in Paki rags for similar burnings in 2013
SHIKARPUR/KARACHI: A huge rift over the alleged desecration of a holy book was averted in Shikarpur after two groups belonging to the Hindu and Sikh minorities reached a compromise.

However, the Sikhs, who are a smaller minority in Shikarpur, reported being threatened by local Hindus in the area.

The incident caused an uproar after Sikh students shared pictures of a recently held four-day mela (festival) in Jai Samadha Ashram in Shikarpur where the head of the Hindu temple was seen holding the Guru Granth Sahib (Holy book of Sikhs) bare-headed.

But in others, he was photographed drawing signs and symbols on the holy book.

The temple, housing both Geeta and Guru Granth Sahib for decades, is the most frequented place of worship for both religious communities.

In the pictures that circulated on social networking site Facebook, the head of the temple, Swami Saeen Narayan Bhajan, a young man in his late 20s, is seen signing the scripture after drawing a symbol belonging to the Hindu faith.

Within an hour, the pictures created a furor among Sikh residents in the area, who then contacted their local representatives. Eventually, the pictures reached the chairman of the Pakistan Sikh Council, Sardar Ramesh Singh, who led a 22-member team to Shikarpur to sort out the matter.

“Young men were ready to fight and kill each other if we hadn't reached in time,” he narrated while giving an interview on phone.

Singh, who was shown the pictures, said “coloured pen was used to create drawings of Hindu God Ganesha on a few pages” which angered many in the community.

The matter was resolved after Swami Narayan Bhajan admitted his mistake and apologised to the community elders, adding that he did not intend any disrespect.

Tara Singh, head of the Pakistan Sikh Gurdhwara Prabandhak (Managing) Committee, said that they want peace to prevail between the two communities.

“We don’t want the situation to get out of hand. And believe in forgive and forget,” he added.

However, Singh said that, some of the families who informed the elders about the incident later received text messages threatening them for “publicising the incident to gain attention,” causing panic within the community.
>> hxxp://www.dawn.com/news/796760/desecration-of ... -community

A telephone quote from back then
Back in Sep 2013
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Former president of Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (PSPGC) Bishan Singh who is also chairman of Baba Guru Nanak Welfare Society, Pakistan told TOI over phone from Lahore on Saturday that there were certain elements who wanted to create a rift between the Sikhs and Hindus by resorting to such incidents.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 217912.cms
Now Below Propagandu coinciding with the most recent burnings
Paki Propagandu wrote:
The Pakistan Sikh Council has also alleged that the copies of sacred Sikh Scripture have been burnt, and torn off in Hindu temples in Mehhar, Pano Aqil, Sukkur, Mirpur Mathelo and Shikarpur cities. The fact is that attacks on the Sikh faith by Hindus have been ongoing for years in order to show Sikhs to be a part of Hinduism.
Indian supported Hindu temples in Sindh are trying to subjugate the Sikh identity by placing Sikh Scripture in the Hindu temples. They are trying to establish that the Sikhs had no separate identity of their own. This is obviously not acceptable to the Sikhs as the Sikh community has become reform oriented and politically aware, thinking that without a distinct identity and its acknowledgement by others, the Sikh community would be subsumed by the Hindu community and suffer politically, economically, socially and in the field of religion.

Paki online propagandu source>> hxxp://www.betaarticle.com/general/pakistani-r ... ani-sikhs/
Massa has given the go ahead and Pakis are itching for a fight is all i can feel.Both in Afghanistan and across the border across Kashmir and Punjab heat is going to come.
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SSridhar wrote:Sikh Council Gives 5 day deadline to Government for arrest of desecration suspects - DAWN
KARACHI: The Pakistan Sikh Council has warned the government that the community will launch a countrywide protest movement if the all the culprits who had desecrated their holy book, Guru Granth Sahib, are not arrested by May 31.
So the deadline has come and gone. Any rioting / country wide protests yet (not including the ones by the mohajirs)?
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There's bravado and then there's pak-ravado (over-confidence laced with extreme ignorance). Confident Irfan says he can win World Cup single handedly
The world's tallest (and soon to be the world's dumbest) cricketer Mohammad Irfan Tuesday said he could win next year's World Cup for Pakistan single-handedly after regaining full fitness from a hip bone injury which had sidelined him for six months.
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joygoswami wrote:Greener Jihadis showing brotherly love to less green uniformed jihadis.

Klick Heare

Warning : Graphic Content
The Taliban are blood brothers of the Pakistan army. They all use such methods. This is good, healthy, wholesome Islamic punishment as per book. Secularism demands that we do not object to or comment negatively about the methods used in other religions.
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^^^
That is true Islam, from the times of the founder! Who could be better than the Taliban to implement true shariah. Even in the book, it says something to the effect of 'strike terror into the hearts of your enemy'. I am surprised at the comments by Pakis of being horrified. Weren't these same folks clamoring for shariah and Islam all over the world? I am wondering about the 'all forgiving, all merciful' part ... :mrgreen:

I guess shariah trumps the Geneva Convention and all man made rules.
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RCase wrote:'all forgiving
What is so difficult to understand about "All forgiving"? Any damn thing is forgiven. We can come to the all merciful part later.
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Wow. that is bad.
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Hmm....... I was expecting some fine baki on baki beheading with a serrated semi-blunt and rusty 6 inch knife...............but that is some very mild beating compared to that. The tellibunnies disappointed me on this one. Step the game up guys animals!!!!
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Mihaylo wrote:
jamwal wrote:It's quite strange that 1-3 abduls on the ground almost always get shaheedised whenever a PAF plane crashes. This is the 3rd such incident, which I remember in which someone on ground died too.

..maybe it was a kamikaze mission and not a crash. :twisted:

-M
Maybe PAF jet crashed in protest against Altaf Bhai's arrest in London. :mrgreen:
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Greener jihadis strike again on less green jihadis.

Klick Heare
RAWALPINDI: Two military officers were killed on Wednesday when a suicide bomber hit their twin cabin vehicle on Fateh Jang road near Rawalpindi, Director-General Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Asim Bajwa said.
Zahir Shah and Arshad, both Lieutenant-Colonels were killed in the blast, Bajwa said on micro-blogging website Twitter.
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shiv wrote: ..
. Secularism demands that we do not object to or comment negatively about the methods used in other religions.
Meaning we can't say - how one jehadi peard torturing other jehadi peard in uniform totally exposes false propaganda and taqiya- to ourselves who tend to avoid punishing animals and us humans alike in any such psycho manner.
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vishvak wrote:
shiv wrote: ..
. Secularism demands that we do not object to or comment negatively about the methods used in other religions.
Meaning we can't say - how one jehadi peard torturing other jehadi peard in uniform totally exposes false propaganda and taqiya- to ourselves who tend to avoid punishing animals and us humans alike in any such psycho manner.
In India we have been told by our respected secular governments that any comments passed about Pakistan army soldiers being tortured by Taliban will instantly make Indian Muslims angry and will immediately make them want to support Pakistan. We must prevent this at all cost as it will in turn provoke Hindutva forces and the secular fabric of our nation will be torn asunder. The weather, cricket and stock market are things you can talk about. A few days ago a trainee nun in Kerala burned another trainee nun alive. But this was a secular incident and does not need to be publicized. Even the Archbishop of Canterbury (that is the chief priest in one foreign country) has praised Indian secularism. If he praises it (he is a foreigner) - I think is is very good news and shows us in a very good light.

Sorry OT. But secular OT.
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:rotfl:
India: Recognizing Pakistan’s Paradigm Shift

by Shairee Malhotra, thediplomat.com
June 4th 2014

Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s invitation to leaders of South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation countries to attend his swearing-in ceremony has been termed a “foreign policy masterstroke.” The highlight was arguably Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s attendance, despite a delay in accepting the invitation.

Modi’s BJP party has in the past criticized the ex-UPA government’s Pakistan policy as too soft, and had vowed in the run-up to elections to take a tough stance against Pakistan. However, Indian leaders must recognize the psychological underpinnings of the Pakistani state, which is central to taming the famously fractious relationship.

Pakistan’s military has built the identity of the Pakistani state in opposition to India, and this perpetuation and sustainment of the Indian threat is what has made the Pakistan Army the most powerful and omnipresent institution in its polity. This siege mentality has legitimized its rule in the eyes of ordinary Pakistanis and enabled it to extract the exorbitant funding and revenues that it does, consequently derailing pro-democracy forces and civil society. The military’s unprecedented monopoly over Pakistani politics, and the inflated revenue that the myth of the Indian threat derives explains the lack of incentive for the army to better relations with India.

While a tough line on Pakistan may have been appropriate for New Delhi a few years ago, in recent years the state of affairs seems to have somewhat altered. There is a growing realization in Pakistan that India no longer poses the largest threat to the country, and in this realization lies Pakistan’s greatest hope of becoming a “normal” country, and not the dysfunctional security state that it currently is. The biggest security risks are those stemming from within the country, and not from external sources like India, a realization that frames the military as part of the problem, rather than the solution. Perhaps nothing can better capture Pakistan’s miscalculations and militancy culture than Mohsin Hamid’s catchphrase, “To fight India, we fought ourselves.”

The Army itself is starting to see the light; evident in its new doctrine’s shift in threat assessment, as militant groups they once propelled turn against the state and attack its security apparatuses. According to acclaimed Pakistani author Ahmed Rashid, “The anti-India rhetoric that has been part of Pakistan’s entire make-up for over 50 years has now dramatically altered even within the army, which recognizes that we have to deal with the Taliban threat.” Indeed, even Pakistan’s feared Inter-Services Intelligence has acknowledged that homegrown militants have surpassed India as Pakistan’s greatest threat.

Additionally, there is a growing perception that engaging with India is an opportunity to resuscitate Pakistan’s stagnant economy, as evident in Islamabad’s recent overtures to New Delhi on liberalized trade deals, as well as its three-year economic reform agenda program with the IMF that emphasizes trade ties with India.

The new Indian government needs to acknowledge this gradual and much-needed change in Pakistani mindset; and adopting a tough posture towards Pakistan, something that many in India believe to be imperative and long overdue, would be the wrong step for the new government to take. Thus, Modi’s move to invite leaders of neighbouring countries, including Nawaz Sharif, has been pragmatic and welcomed.

As Shekhar Gupta of the Indian Express concedes, “Many Pakistan-watchers, particularly in India, allow our contempt, fear and distrust of the Pakistani army to so cloud our judgment, we fail to see a fundamental, and virtuous change.” Pakistan Punjab’s Chief Minister Najam Sethi stated in an interview with CNN-IBN’s Karan Thapar, “The Pakistani Army no longer considers India to be an existential threat. The paradigm in this country is changing and the sooner the people of India and the Indian establishment realize this, the better it will be for the peace process.”

“Getting tough” will not be a viable approach to deal with a neighbor that has historically operated on the paranoia premise that India’s prime aim is to destroy it. Jingoistic language and calls for sterner belligerent action on the part of Indian leaders, even in the event of a terrorist attack, are self-defeating; and risk a reversal of this welcomed change in attitude in Pakistan. They will only exacerbate the situation and play right into the hands of the Army, sustaining its ubiquitous status. Suspension of talks should not be an option, as this will only satisfy militants and Islamist hardliners that their destabilization tactics are working. The new BJP government must accurately gauge the situation and envisage the overall direction of its Pakistan policy, rather than respond to events in an episodic and ad-hoc manner as the previous government did.

Pakistan is a complex country with several centers of powers – the Army, the civilian establishment, the ISI, religious groups, and extremist forces. Sharif’s delay in confirming his presence at Modi’s ceremony, and the recent Taliban attack on the Indian consulate in Herat, Afghanistan, demonstrate the complexities. India needs to be aware that such activities will continue because several players in Pakistan are averse to good relations with India. However, this must not stop the Modi government from continuing to seek closer ties with a Pakistan that is growing out of its existential negative perception of India.

India-Pakistan relations are at a pivotal point in history. As India experiences a change of guard in New Delhi, the first Pakistan government to experience a transfer of power from one civilian regime to another is marking a year in office. The timing is good for the bilateral relationship to move beyond conventional differences, and capitalize on the enormous economic potential of the relationship. India must adopt a constructive and robust, rather than belligerent and reckless, approach to Pakistan, especially in light of this progressive narrative change in internal Pakistani politics. It must be innovative in “normalizing” its relations with Pakistan and review other tactics, including collaborative attempts with other states to diplomatically pressure and stabilize Pakistan, support for civilian structures and accelerated economic engagement. Under the leadership of an assertive and dynamic Modi, India is now well positioned to take these steps.

Shairee Malhotra works at Gateway House: Indian Council on Global Relations in Mumbai, India. She has an MA in International Relations from Queen Mary, University of London.
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anmol wrote:
India: Recognizing Pakistan’s Paradigm Shift

by Shairee Malhotra, thediplomat.com
June 4th 2014

As Shekhar Gupta of the Indian Express concedes, “Many Pakistan-watchers, particularly in India, allow our contempt, fear and distrust of the Pakistani army to so cloud our judgment, we fail to see a fundamental, and virtuous change.” Pakistan Punjab’s Chief Minister Najam Sethi stated in an interview with CNN-IBN’s Karan Thapar, “The Pakistani Army no longer considers India to be an existential threat. The paradigm in this country is changing and the sooner the people of India and the Indian establishment realize this, the better it will be for the peace process.”
How do these brainless twits reach such conclusions? Our media are full of superficial nincompoops who don't really study what they are empowered to blabber about.

You cannot turn around opinions in a 650,000 man army in just a couple of years - and it was a couple of years ago that Kiyani reiterated that India is the army's biggest enemy. Two days ago that daughter marrying moron Hafiz Saeed said he wants to destroy India and the idiot army is either powerless or complicit. Todays news says the armed forces will get an 18% of shitland's budgets. Exactly what do these Indian commentators have that they are trying to pass off as brains?

It is because of idiots in India that India continuously lets its guard down.
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shiv wrote:
Uttam wrote:
Why is that? Why Pakis are so suicidal? Is it because the power base there is with Army and a rapprochement with India will be like taking away Army's raison d'être? If that is true then nothing but a total annihilation of Paki Army will ever bring peace to the subcontinent.
I think you hit the nail on the head. But I would say - reduce the Pakistan army to military irrelevance - possibly by penury.
Exactly. Uninhibited economic and military (overt, covert) means should be used to reduce TSP and its military to penury.
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This should be seen as a lifafa and outlines the American POV wrt to what the expectations are from the Modi govt viz Pak.
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India: Recognizing Pakistan’s Paradigm Shift

.. the sooner the people of India and the Indian establishment realize this, the better it will be for the peace process.”

..As usual, there is an implied threat. All this pappadam shift bijiness will blow up with the inevitable terrorist event against us that will have roots in the Pukistan.

-M
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joygoswami wrote:Greener Jihadis showing brotherly love to less green uniformed jihadis.

Klick Heare

Warning : Graphic Content

This is so benign and doesn't even warrant a PG. I was expecting an NC-17 clip. And I ask, where is the customary bayonet poke to the musharaff? Shame on the talibunnies. At the very least they should have ensured that they were whipping against bare skin.

-M
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The video is nothing compared to the torture the Baloch were administered by the PA. That was sickening sadism whereas this was the standard flogging the pious Muslims (including countries like KSA) administer. Two of the PA soldiers were whimpering and running around to escape. Only the third showed some courage. And these curs are the ones who commit atrocities on those weaker than them.
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Iran refused to fuel Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif's plane to make Pak airline pay dues :shock:
Iranian authorities refused to fuel the aircraft of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif during his visit to Tehran last month to make the state-run PIA clear its dues.
"The Iranian airport authorities had refused to fuel the Pakistan PM's aircraft at the Tehran airport on May 12 and warned it would not release the plane until the PIA cleared the outstanding payment," a senior Pakistan International Airlines official told PTI.
"The Iran Air officials responsible for handling the VVIP flight showed their annoyance over the PIA failure in clearing the pending invoice of PK-788 despite the passage of four months," the official said.
The outstanding amount was just over $5,000
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This surely is part of a litany of such pathetic articles written by an Indian.

Two things.

One, we do not care how many power centres are there, how complex that country is (surely, it cannot be more complex than India), what the Pakistani Army 'thinks' about who its existential threat is etc. We do not care What we care is that there should be no more terrorist attacks on India, the past attacks must be investigated seriously, its textbooks on India must be revised completely and the Pakistani Government must convince us through verifiable and sustained demonstration that it has given up for good its policy of 'terror and hatred as instruments of state policy' against India and it has become a 'normal' neighbour willing to establish a conventional relationship any decent country has with its neighbour.

In fact, the author is contradicting her own statements. She claims that the Pakistani Army's thinking has changed and immediately says that if we toughen or approach, we will 'play into the Pakistani Army's hands'.

Two, the repeated assertions that "there is a growing realization in Pakistan that India no longer poses the largest threat to the country" and that the "biggest security risks are those stemming from within the country" are myths. There is absolutely no reason to believe any of these statements. In her eagerness to clutch at WKK straws, she invests extraordinary faith in such duplicitous statements which are completely opposite to ground realities.
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shiv wrote:
RCase wrote:'all forgiving
What is so difficult to understand about "All forgiving"? Any damn thing is forgiven. We can come to the all merciful part later.
Kuffar Folks,There is one special provision, exception made by Providence,In Case of Pawkistan its "All FourGiving" without "Marsii".
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http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/tal ... 37232.html
The two military officers -- Lieutenant Colonels Zahir Shah and Arshad -- were killed when a Pakistani Taliban suicide bomber hit their twin cabin vehicle on a road near Rawalpindi
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joygoswami wrote:Greener Jihadis showing brotherly love to less green uniformed jihadis.

Klick Heare

Warning : Graphic Content
For those who watched this video and are possibly grappling with human emotions such as compassion, let us remember Saurabh Kalia and countless other Indians who were subjected to torture by Pakistani army. Flogging of these Pakistani soldiers was just punishment as prescribed by Islam; there was no torture involved. Just like we do not feel bad about people hanged to death as per the law, this punishment is also as per Islamic law and we have no business in denying that to a country created in the name of Islam.

I am not even going into details of what Islamic gazis such as Lodhis, Ghauris, Gaznavis etc. did to Hindus.

The ones shown in the video are good talibans not bad talibans like Pakistani army.
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Shankk-ji,

That was a very very mild punishment compared to some stuff out there, infact this is like a slap on the wrist.

I wish they were beheaded in accordance with the Prophets commandments with respect to Murtads.
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Defence spending jacked up by 11.1%
According to the budget document, out of Rs700.2 billion, Rs293.5 billion has been allocated for employees-related expenses, Rs180.2 billion for operating expenses and Rs152.8 billion has been earmarked for physical assets.

However, the figures do not include Rs163.4 billion allocated for pensions of the servicemen that would be given from the civilian budget and a separate allocation for security-related expenses in a move which, critics say, seeks to conceal the actual defence budget.

Additionally, the military would also be given Rs165 billion under the contingent liability and Rs85 billion under the Coalition Support Fund (CSF). This means that in reality a whopping Rs1113 billion has been allocated for the military, which is about 28.2% of the country’s total budget.
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Shankk wrote:Greener Jihadis showing brotherly love to less green uniformed jihadis.

Klick Heare

Warning : Graphic Content

For those who watched this video and are possibly grappling with human emotions such as compassion, .

The only emotions I was grappling with was extreme anticipation and downright disappointment.

-M
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The PA is responsible for very sadistic torture of our troops and civilians. Those comments are funny.
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Mihaylo wrote:
Shankk wrote:Greener Jihadis showing brotherly love to less green uniformed jihadis.

For those who watched this video and are possibly grappling with human emotions such as compassion, .
The only emotions I was grappling with was extreme anticipation and downright disappointment.

-M
My jeehardi mindset reminds of an old video.

PAK ARMY v BLA
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http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... juggernaut
The Modi juggernaut
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b]The rapid formation of his government, including their swearing-in the same day, meant that every detail had been prepared and rehearsed in advance. This level of efficiency is a bit scary in the generally somnolent Subcontinent. [/b]In an earlier piece ‘The colour saffron’, I had tried to assess what the BJP rollercoaster piloted by Modi could deliver to India and its neighbours, adding that an early opening toward Pakistan would have a positive effect. That opening was swifter than anyone could anticipate. How Nawaz’s gesture of inviting Modi to visit Pakistan was relayed back as an invitation to attend the swearing-in at Delhi remains a mystery. It looks unlikely that the Indian invitation was anticipated in Islamabad. That explains, among other things, the reason for the delayed acceptance from our side. The first reaction from the Indian foreign ministry about inviting Saarc leaders was that “we are looking at it”, implying that the decision was taken by Modi and his close advisers and the official machinery was left to do the bandobast for the grand ceremony. The idea of converting the Nawaz-Modi meeting into a substantive session even before the new government had settled in looked novel but was carried through with mutual accord. The new Indian leadership was not shy of engaging the Pakistanis but as we know now, its perspective was not different from the one experienced under the Congress-led coalition. While discussing the prospects of resolving Pakistan-India disputes – especially Kashmir – a German scholar of South Asia spoke of India’s confidence that time was on its side and there was no reason to hurry. Another view expressed by Indian officials in private conversations was that Pakistan was in a miserable, if not failing, state. There was no reason for India to help its smaller neighbour. A large number of Indians who troll websites of our press have nothing but vitriol against Pakistan, with the bottom line: India neither needs nor cares about Pakistan which is more of a nuisance.The venom spewed by Indian web crawlers brings back memories of the bitter state of Hindu-Muslim relations prior to Partition. In international relations, you have to negotiate with your worst enemies. Therefore, taking a moral high ground by India boils down to one thing: normalisation of relations can be only on India’s terms.

In these circumstances, Pakistan’s eagerness to resume the dialogue hardly makes sense. Islamabad must act with dignity and self-respect and refrain from resuming the talks process till the Indians can demonstrate a reciprocal desire for a relationship based on sovereign equality. :rotfl: ( What SauVaranaginity)
The other plank of India’s trade agenda, to gain access to Central Asia and beyond by land route via Pakistan, offers nothing to Pakistan in terms of reciprocity. While Indian lorries ply our motorways to reach Kabul, Tashkent, Tehran, Istanbul, Milan, Berlin and Paris, Pakistan could perhaps ask for transit facility to Bangladesh and Nepal in return. It is fear of the totally lopsided benefits likely to accrue from open trade and transit that keeps the Pakistanis mulling and worrying and delaying the MFN and transit facilities to India. It appears that our classical defence tactic of insisting on resolving the Kashmir dispute first as a way of delaying India’s commercial onslaught is no longer in vogue. But this approach may reappear once talks are resumed with the efforts of the two foreign secretaries. The present imbalance of conventional military power and economic potential between India and Pakistan should be factored into our approach to dialogue. Faced with a similar situation, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto hedged his position on resolving the Kashmir dispute at the Simla talks with Indira Gandhi.Realists argue that the imbalance between Pakistan and India is only going to grow with the passage of time and we should enter into agreements now. The question is: what kind of agreements? If the agreements only mean dos and don’ts for Pakistan, there is no harm in stretching the dialogue. As the French love to say, ‘It is urgent to wait’.
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What khayali pullao is the guy eating? What do Bangladesh and Nepal want to buy from TSP?

Its only a way to drop off terrorists in India while enroute to those places.
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EXCLUSIVE: Hate-filled taxi passenger smacks driver in face with skateboard after asking his nationality

Pakistan Ki MattLab Kanha Hai: Attacker Thought Driver Was Ahmadi, Wazibul Smack
Mohammad Ali Fahd suffered a fractured nose, facial cuts and swelling so severe he can’t open his left eye after being smacked in the face by a skateboard by a hate-filled passenger, authorities said. A hate-filled taxi passenger smashed a Pakistani cabbie in the face with a skateboard after asking the driver his nationality, the driver said Tuesday.Mohammad Ali Fahd suffered a fractured nose, facial cuts and swelling so severe he can’t open his left eye, authorities said.Doctors don’t yet know how badly his vision will be affected. “He was trying to kill me,” said Fahd, 36, a father of two. “I hope they catch this guy.”The man hailed Fahd’s cab late Monday night on Second Ave. between Sixth and Seventh Sts.The outburst distracted Fahd and he hit a pothole, he said. The cab driver then pulled into a gas station at Avenue C and 23rd St. to assess the damage, when the passenger came up and hit him from behind, Fahd said. Early in the trip uptown, the passenger asked Fahd his country of origin, then started cursing and banging on the partition when Fahd said he was born in Pakistan, Fahd said.
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RSoami wrote:http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/tal ... 37232.html
The two military officers -- Lieutenant Colonels Zahir Shah and Arshad -- were killed when a Pakistani Taliban suicide bomber hit their twin cabin vehicle on a road near Rawalpindi

The two Lieutenant Colonels belonging to the uniformed Jihadi's of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan who got suicide bombed were involved with the Islamic Republics Nuclear Programme.

This incident yet again raises questions about the safety of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan's Nuclear weapon arsenal:

2 Linked to Pakistan nuclear program killed in attack
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Education budget decreased despite promises; Promises By Pakistan are Made to be broken

http://www.dawn.com/news/1110706/educat ... e-promises
ASSLAMABAD: Although the government has been claiming that it has given importance to education sector and that the education budget has been increased, it is just a game of figures. However, on Tuesday, a federal education budget of Rs86.4 billion was announced, which is 1.6 per cent less than the revised estimate of last year. According to Economic Survey 2013-14, the inflation was 8.7 per cent. So, if inflation rate is deducted from the education budget, an overall decrease of 11 per cent will be observed and the budget becomes equal to Rs78.9 billion in real terms. ( Its under 700 Million $ for whole Qabilaland)
Renowned education researcher Ahmad Ali also agrees that the education budget, in real terms, has been reduced by 11 per cent. ““Smaller provinces and southern Punjab ignoredAn official of the Ministry of Education and Training said that smaller provinces have been neglected in the 2014-15 federal budget for higher education sector.“There are 12 projects for Punjab in the budget, but only one of them is for southern Punjab,” he said.
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Jhujar wrote:Education budget decreased despite promises; Promises By Pakistan are Made to be broken

http://www.dawn.com/news/1110706/educat ... e-promises
ASSLAMABAD: Although the government has been claiming that it has given importance to education sector and that the education budget has been increased, it is just a game of figures. However, on Tuesday, a federal education budget of Rs86.4 billion was announced, which is 1.6 per cent less than the revised estimate of last year. According to Economic Survey 2013-14, the inflation was 8.7 per cent. So, if inflation rate is deducted from the education budget, an overall decrease of 11 per cent will be observed and the budget becomes equal to Rs78.9 billion in real terms. ( Its under 700 Million $ for whole Qabilaland)
Renowned education researcher Ahmad Ali also agrees that the education budget, in real terms, has been reduced by 11 per cent. ““Smaller provinces and southern Punjab ignoredAn official of the Ministry of Education and Training said that smaller provinces have been neglected in the 2014-15 federal budget for higher education sector.“There are 12 projects for Punjab in the budget, but only one of them is for southern Punjab,” he said.

Pakistan Institute of Explosive Technology (PIETY) is a very efficient organisation.

Reduced budget is no problem at all.

More bang for the buck is their motto.
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Simply Retard Wise Crack
Where Narendra Modi erred
I wish, as a Pakistani and a political analyst, that the Indian Prime Minister had asked his Pakistani counterpart, Nawaz Sharif, to prepare for a permanent “No War Pact” with Pakistan. I wish Modi had proposed a “No military or political hostilities” MOU between the two nations. I wish Modi had recommended a “Joint Indo-Pak Commission for Conflict Resolution.” I wish Modi had suggested a “Joint Indo-Pak Military Command Structure,” a “Joint Indo-Pak Commission,” a “Joint Indo-Pak Initiative for a Non-Alignment Movement,” or a “Joint Indo-Pak Initiative for Global Political Coordination.”However, above and beyond all of these proposals, I wish Modi had accepted the Pakistani Prime Minister’s invitation to visit Pakistan. I wish Modi had agreed and given an exact date for his Pakistani visit. I wish Modi had physically embraced Nawaz Sharif and said to him that he would be in Islamabad during the coming Eid celebrations to be part of the most sacred Muslim religious celebrations. Imagine the impact of such an act of visionary statesmanship: the entire Pakistani nation would be overwhelmed by such an act of humanitarian generosity. Modi’s stature as an outstanding statesman in the entire Muslim world would have been established and, last but not least, Indian Muslims, 175 million of them (as well as the other minorities), would finally put to rest the fear that Modi’s BJP India will be the Hindu majoritarian domination era.My thesis is that there has to be a fundamental paradigm shift from a “Real Politik” approach to conflict-resolution – to a humanistic-ethical discourse. Both India and Pakistan are faith-based societies with focused spiritual and humanistic devotion to community life. Modi is not wrong when he attributes spiritually to his faith - but he will have to prove that his ideals are consistent with his beliefs. Can Modi give a strategic moral-ethical dimension to India’s foreign policy, particularly its approach to Pakistan, the Kashmir issue and the non-majoritarian dimension to its domestic politics safeguarding 175 million Indian Muslims and other minorities such as Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis, and so on?And why not - that is what will make Modi the political “Devta” (deity) that he wishes and deserves to beIn the end, the larger battle for the hearts and minds of the people, on both sides of the divide, will be won by the ideas of justice, solidarity, public compassion, reason and adherence to spirituality of one’s faith - both for Hinduism and for the faithful in Pakistan. That’s where Modi can make his mark in modern Indian politics as a statesman. Will he stand up to the task?
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Instead of blabbering about what others should do and what is meaning of spiritually/devata in Hinduism etc etc, should not pakis nominate NaMo for Nobel prize now that issue of J&K is settled(no nonsense approach and no faking concerns about Indian territories including Siachen) and NaMo has conveyed to the PM of pakis about how pakis should focus on homegrown terrorism.

Pakis should nominate NaMo for Nobel peace prize since now pakis will be expected to do something about terrorism and also perhaps nuclear blackmail to justify paki terrorism. Recognizing pakis as center of terrorism is huge step that few brave hearts acknowledge world over and no one within paki lands.
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Halalled
At least seven security personnel were martyred jannatized and seven others injured partially jannatized in cross border attacks on Pakistani security check posts on Thursday, Geo News reported.
Geo News is a yahoodi-hanoodi-amriki kanspiracy.
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