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^drug that is slipped into our drink.
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viv wrote:Sad...what is "roofie'd"?
aka date-rape
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The problem in US is also due to lifestyle - an overhexed society where everything goes. By comparison India is more traditional except in elite circles and despite attempts to bring American lifestyle to India. If we can fix the law and order situation and deliver quick and swift justice we can bring down no. of rape cases.
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American words, sir, for some over the counter drugs - there are online memes about it - sold only on medical prescription but used as date rape drugs. Colorless, odourless, tasteless, easily dissolved etc are its properties - most probably or perpetrators would be caught quickly. Weakens and then breaks down capabilities of judgement, memory, muscle, balance etc. within 20 mins or so. Plus lax laws and culture of absolving attackers (blaming victim, protecting college talent and image etc) won't make stats clear - and repeat offenders roam free. I am assuming that after college, women won't be having to face such problems but such things within campus are just too barbaric to overlook.
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Thx for the info. I also found this http://www.theatlantic.com/features/arc ... es/357580/
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shiv wrote:
Raja Ram wrote:The great prosecutor Mr. Preet Behara speaketh at Harvard, says he is upset over the "stupid" criticism over La Affaire Khobragade!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 888112.cms

Poor fellow he claims he was doing what was told and nothing more! It was all US State Department operation all the way!!
"Indian critics were angry because even though I hailed from India, I appeared to be going out of my way to act American and serve the interests of America, which was odd because I am American and the words US are in my title," he said.

He said, "putting aside disputes about the merits of the case," the Indian government and media decided that the case was brought by an Indian-American "for all manner of bad personal reasons, never mind that the case was initiated and investigated by career law enforcement officials."
Just as well that Uncle Tom Bharara makes himself feel better by saying that the Sate Dept was involved from the outset. Of course the Paco affair and the visas for Sangeeta Richards' family were clues that the SD was involved - but Bharara saying it only confirms that it was a political decision in the US to prosecute Khobragade. The reaction against Bharara is also political. It is political fallout against Bharara that demands that he explain his loyal implementation of American laws in pursuance of an American political goal. If he got hoodwinked into doing it then he is the jackass, not his critics. The fact that Khobragade did have diplomatic immunity seems to have escaped Bharara in his enthusiasm to press the case made by his state dept masters. No matter how much he squirms the bald, technical fact remains that he is an Indian American - a privileged one whose father got a US visa because he was educated, and this Indian American is loyally serving an American political goal to declare that India is a fountain of slavery. Uneducated, low caste, untouchable slave Indians do not get US visas. Only privileged (often high caste) and invariably educated Indians get to the US. Going to the US based on privilege and being unaware of the privilege that one enjoyed to get into the US is not an excuse to be critical of the privileged who remain in India and accusing them of slavery. That is hypocrisy and justifies the label "Uncle Tom".

Regardless of whether India is or is not what it is accused of being, Bharara's case for covering his ass is weak.
The man is an arrogant individual without any scruples whatsoever.
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shiv wrote:http://m.newindianexpress.com/nation/318104
American Embassy School in Crisis after Khobragade Row
Posted on June 1, 2014 in Nation

Ranjana Narayan | IANS

The American Embassy School (AES) in New Delhi's plush diplomatic enclave is deep in crisis after nearly 40 teachers quit as a fallout of last year's India-US diplomatic row.

NEW DELHI: The American Embassy School (AES) in New Delhi's plush diplomatic enclave is deep in crisis after nearly 40 teachers quit as a fallout of last year's India-US diplomatic row.

The staff is hoping that with a new Indian government in place, matters would mend soon.

The school, one of the most elitist and expensive in the capital, is in the throes of a crisis after 40 teachers quit since March this year and more than a dozen were forced to return to the US to renew their visas, knowledgeable sources said.


"Over 40 teachers have left since March this year," a source told IANS, not wishing to be named being not authorised to speak on these sensitive issues.

"While we do have teachers leaving regularly as their stay in India ends, this is unprecedented. We've never faced such a situation before," said the source.

"We are all hoping that with the Modi government coming in, things will now get better and the crisis in the school will be over," the source added.

The Obama administration is sending Nisha Desai Biswal, its point person for South and Central Asia, to India next week to hold talks with the new government on bilateral and regional issues. The upcoming Biswal visit has also led to hopes that the AES crisis would soon be a thing of the past.

The teachers were forced to leave as a result of India tightening the screws on visa and tax laws in a tit-for-tat measure in a fallout of the India-US diplomatic spat over the arrest and strip-search in New York of diplomat Devyani Khobragade on charges of visa fraud and underpaying her nanny last year.

Before the diplomatic row, spouses of many American diplomatic officials - as well as Indian diplomats - would join the AES faculty as teachers.

They would not mention in their visa that they were working at the school, thereby avoiding paying tax.

The spouses of many US teachers hired by the AES would also end up as teachers without mentioning it in their visas.

This wink-and-nod agreement that had been going on for decades came apart in the wake of the Khobragade affair when India insisted on being given the full details of the US employees at the school and the taxes filed.

Besides the 40 teachers who have left, around 15 teachers were forced to return to the US to renew their visas.

"Earlier, the visas would get renewed here. But since March, 15 teachers have had to go back to the US to get their visas stamped," the source added.

The school, which has a sprawling 13-acre campus adjacent to the US Embassy, has 1,450 students mainly from the diplomatic community as well as the children of corporate leaders. It has a swimming pool, tennis courts and soccer pitches besides vast athletic fields.

The school fees were raised by 24 percent this year. The fees are steep - ranging from $24,200 a year for Grade 5 (Elementary School) to $27,300 for Grade 8 (Middle School) to $28,700 for Grade 12 (Senior School).

"Things are definitely not like they were before. It has been very traumatic for the school," another source added.

"The school has a wonderful engaging atmosphere. Now there is a feeling of underlying stress," the source added.

Its staff strength is 180 presently. The school hires Americans to teach.

"They are internationally hired teachers, which means they are foreign nationals (not Indian)," added a source.

There are two-three Indian teachers who have been around for many years and teach specialised subjects.

The top administration staff is American while the support staff is Indian.

While the US staff get paid handsomely, the Indian staff, including the clerks, the drivers and others are paid "what they would get in any other good Indian firm".

"The salaries that Indians get at the school is not high. But what makes a difference is the working atmosphere. It is really a good place to work in. The weekend offs and the month-long vacation the staff are entitled to are also attractive," another source added. {Oooooh, you get vacations Indians be happy!! :rotfl:}

Besides the school, the American community club has also been badly affected. :(( :((

The embassy was told in January to shut all commercial activities being undertaken from inside the premises.

Several commercial activities are undertaken under the aegis of the American Community Support Association (ACSA). These include a restaurant/bar, video club, bowling alley, swimming pool, sports facility and field, beauty parlour and gym.

"The club has been badly hit. All the American Embassy School teachers would use the club. Now they are not allowed to do so," said a source.

Non-American diplomats are also barred from using the premises and the supply of cheap liquor is now a thing of the past, say diplomatic sources. :(( :((
The hypocrisy of the administrators and their backers is amazing. Just look at the bolded parts.

I HOPE the Modi govt throws the book at these elitist gasbags and strict reciprocity is the order of the day.

'Ils ne passeront pas
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shiv wrote:
Rahul M wrote:[

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpRIOYMCQAAtzvP.jpg:large


now take total population into account and decide where rape is a bigger problem.
Rahul the difference is the US actively criticizes India as if they are innocent and Indian media promptly report that criticism as if God has spoken

Indian media do not have the originality or the wits to point out what you have done. I always recall the UK saying India has more cellphones than toilets. Guess what. That is true for the UK as well. But it seems that as a nation we are a humble, apologetic bunch who realize that everyone other than us is right.
Shiv ji, To be fair to Americans. They are not at fault for this "state department statement about rape", they were egged on to respond by an Indian (PTI correspondent Lalit K Jha@lalitkjha ). This dimwit doesn't even realize what U.S got to do with law & order situation at home.

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kish wrote: Shiv ji, To be fair to Americans. They are not at fault for this "state department statement about rape", they were egged on to respond by an Indian (PTI correspondent Lalit K Jha@lalitkjha ). This dimwit doesn't even realize what U.S got to do with law & order situation at home.
Why does the TFTA USSD take cues from the lowly slave-driver SDRE like this correspondent? "No comments" suffices if that is what they mean.
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An opinion from a Radical feminist cousin of mine:
In "Land of Free and Brave" (aka Massa), Rape is a good thing.

For example,
1 in 5 of college women are sexually assaulted before they graduate.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... hey-gradu/

Rape hardens the massa women to face any eventuality in life,which is why US can legitimately claim the title of "Land of the Brave" , because forget men ,even their women become hard as tacks quite early through the motions of their American life.
This salutary tradition of "Hardening" their women to face any hardships(including war) is also visible in the Massa armed forces where 20-48% of the females are raped by the time they retire.
According to the Department of Labor, between 20-48% of female veterans were sexually assaulted in the military. More women leave the military with post-traumatic stress disorder from rape than combat.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/72503 ... al-assault

The Invisible War - which will be released in cinemas tomorrow (on March 11) – along with seven other rape victims’ stories. The film estimates at least 500,000 women have been sexually assaulted in the US military since women were first allowed to enter the armed forces in the 1940s.
Official Department of Defence figures in the US show that out of 3,158 reported sexual assault cases in 2010, only 21 per cent of those cases went to trial. Of those, only half were convicted.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens ... orces.html
The remaining civilian rape happening on the massan streets,in the dark alleys,in the parties, in the clubs,in the gangland ghettoes etc should be treated as general revelry inherent to the life in developed civilizations, in fact enlightened liberal women demand such masochistic treatment as popularized by 50 shades of grey and other assorted feminist revolutionary writings on anal hex among other topics.

However in Turdworld cuntry like India, Rape is a communal act of domination where dutty Yindoos target the castes lower in hierarchy to keep them in check.This rape is different from the widespread rapes happening within the castes themselves. Thus the former "Casteist rape" and is now accompanied with latter "Patriarchal rape" where both lower cast and upper cast Yindoo males viciously keep raping their caste women to keep them in check.This unique violent exploitation element is the identifying feature of Yindoo rape.
Hence, It is no exaggeration to even surmise that every Yindoo woman suffers daily violent rape by her husband each night in bed.

Disclaimer:
Above Communal Yindoo rape has to be differentiated from the sikular peaceful and loving(often Fatherly) rape by mainorities predominantly amongst themselves and on the dutty kaafirs when conditions permit - this has to be recognized as a religiously sanctioned revelry and bonding ritual and has no violent element associated to it.It brings out the feeling of fraternity and brotherhood as deemed necessary in enlightened Abrahamic religions as opposed to caste oppressive Indic religoins.

With this background pliss to join Arundhothi Roy and Shoma Chaudary on condemning and exposing this communal rape by Communal,Casteist,Patriarchal Yindoos.

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Traveller,Climber,Runner,Jumper.... .

Shout out to Arundhothi: You go girl!!
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there is a definite increase in coverage of indian rape cases in massa media. not to trivialise heinous crimes like this, but such cases were always there. it is tempting to see an intention behind this increased and pointed coverage. average american may not be guilty of this coverage, but he is the target of this and it is already showing in comments in american media where such cases elicit more responses like "they are like that".
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Gus wrote:there is a definite increase in coverage of indian rape cases in massa media. not to trivialise heinous crimes like this, but such cases were always there. it is tempting to see an intention behind this increased and pointed coverage. average american may not be guilty of this coverage, but he is the target of this and it is already showing in comments in american media where such cases elicit more responses like "they are like that".
Negative news coverage in massa is backed by Chin americans and TSP amriki. They have hidden group which manipulates the news and also pays money to the network channels to cover negative news about India.
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oh no gus, massa is land of free and fair and massa media is completely out of any state influence. :p
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And this is massa's great record in their most disciplined of institutions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens ... orces.html
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Gus wrote:there is a definite increase in coverage of indian rape cases in massa media. not to trivialise heinous crimes like this, but such cases were always there. it is tempting to see an intention behind this increased and pointed coverage. average american may not be guilty of this coverage, but he is the target of this and it is already showing in comments in american media where such cases elicit more responses like "they are like that".
Someone is getting the 'white' mob ready to lynch (figuratively) some SDRE injuns. The stereotype being developed is the equal of the "black brute stereotype" which was used extensively during the Jim Crow era in the USofA. That was the root cause of most of the lynchings in the USofA.

Here is the history behind this:
http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/brute/
The brute caricature portrays black men as innately savage, animalistic, destructive, and criminal -- deserving punishment, maybe death. This brute is a fiend, a sociopath, an anti-social menace. Black brutes are depicted as hideous, terrifying predators who target helpless victims, especially white women.
It goes on:
The "terrible crime" most often mentioned in connection with the black brute was rape, specifically the rape of a white woman. At the beginning of the twentieth century, much of the virulent, anti-black propaganda that found its way into scientific journals, local newspapers, and best-selling novels focused on the stereotype of the black rapist. The claim that black brutes were, in epidemic numbers, raping white women became the public rationalization for the lynching of blacks.

Here is the impact of this caricature that is going to hit brown skinned SDRE's in the US (disclaimer: I am NOT CONDONING violence against women, I abhor any kind of violence against anyone, especially women and children):

For the same crime committed by an SDRE vs a non-SDRE that deserves equal punishment/remedy , the SDRE will be punished more swiftly, more harshly and without mercy or exception.

This is also how a fundamentally racist law enforcement is created and maintained.
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The fact that there is a systematic hate campaign is glaringly obvious. Question is what to do about it?

Read this article:

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2013 ... le_sidebar

Some sdre sent it to me with the title "poignant". Seeing the author(a)'s name, I knew the right term was "pakistan". I only read the big come-on:
"Here is the sad truth about India: A woman is raped every 20 minutes."

So I did a Google search. Here is the result:
From
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/st ... al-assault
"Every 2 minutes, another American is sexually assaulted.
Here's the math. According to the U.S. Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey --there is an average of 237,868 victims (age 12 or older) of rape and sexual assault each year. "
Of course not all victims are women - the above site does not give a gender breakdown. But remember also that the American population is 1/4 that of India. Plus, remember that it does not include rapes of people under 12, which excludes the epidemic of rape existing in the American Church Choir system (where the Rear of the Rear Cardinals is the Vice of the Vice Cardinals , and the Little Leage softball(s) League, football leage etc. (read about the various Penn State Coaches, scoutmasters etc if u are so morbid).

THEN I read the (f)article. And saw the statistics posted right there: CNN's own statistics showed that the incidence of rape is some 13 times higher in USA than in India. Yet, the "top 5 countries where it is dangerous to be a woman" included India but not USA!!!!

And that only includes cases reported to the FBI. Did Moni Basu report her own (s)experience to the FBI?

This tells me a curious fact: CNN operates with reporters, editors, graphics artists and web layout specialists. Something tells me that the web layout persons were honest and produced the statistics, that totally demolished the whole thesis of the (f)article and proved that it is blatant lying propaganda by a paid anti-India creep.

To take this head-on, the propaganda must be exposed as propaganda, and the authors who are complicit in this should be equally named and exposed. Moni Basu is clearly one, but she has a notoriety going back at least to 1998. Who are the others?
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Narendra Modi, Barack Obama will meet in Washington in September

In what is probably the most significant foreign policy decision taken since he became Prime Minister, Narendra Modi has confirmed to US President Barack Obama that he will have a bilateral meeting with him in Washington in the last week of September this year.

Obama had invited Modi to the US when he called up the PM to congratulate him. Significantly, the meeting won't happen on the sidelines of the United Nations general assembly in New York but in the form of a full-fledged bilateral summit in Washington.

The two sides are finalizing the date for the meeting which will be in the last week of September, TOI has learnt. The Modi-Obama summit promises to be one of the foremost international events of the year and will overshadow Modi's presence at UNGA, if he decides to go to New York too.
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Delaware deputy attorney general charged with rape of boy, 16

Is the SD and UN worried about this?
Will the deputy attorney general be let off citing Affluenza?
How come such acts happen in the america?
America liberates and is infallible, so i am disappointed.
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svinayak wrote:
Gus wrote:there is a definite increase in coverage of indian rape cases in massa media. not to trivialise heinous crimes like this, but such cases were always there. it is tempting to see an intention behind this increased and pointed coverage. average american may not be guilty of this coverage, but he is the target of this and it is already showing in comments in american media where such cases elicit more responses like "they are like that".
Negative news coverage in massa is backed by Chin americans and TSP amriki. They have hidden group which manipulates the news and also pays money to the network channels to cover negative news about India.
This sentence is Acharya redux, are you Acharya or someone deeply inspired by him?
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What you need to do instead of ranting, is to list the people who are creating the anti-Indian hype.

Here is a beginning: I am only listing authors and editors where I can find them, ppl can Google their propaganda without my help.
1. Moni Basu of CNN
2. Terrence McCoy of The Washington Post
3. Shashank Bengali of The Los Angeles Times
4. IMTIAZ AKHTAR of CounterPunch
5. Harmeet Shah Singh of CNN
6. Harmeet Shah Singh of CNN (strike 2)
6. Faith Karimi of CNN
7. Sumnima Uddas of CNN, New Delhi and her CNN goons
8. Erin Burnett of CNN
9. Madison Park, CNN
10. Sarah Brown, CNN
11. Daphne Sashin, CNN
12. Katie Hawkins-Gaar, CNN

(I stopped searching for CNN stories, but you can continue the venture, it may run into hundreds of "stories")
13. Biswajeet Banerjee, Associated Press
Kishwar Desai of The Guardian

14. Jason Burke of The Guardian
15. Amartya Sen (sad to say...)

I am certainly not saying that crimes in India should not be reported, exposed, investigated, tried and punished and the victims accorded every assistance, respect, retribution and recompense.

I AM saying that CNN has absolutely no business going and making "Rape in India" their nearly-daily headline.

As in any nation with hundreds of millions of people, there are going to be crimes. The statistics show beyond any question that the USA, CNN's home base, is 13 to 20 times more dangerous than India in sex crimes. CNN is deliberately creating hate propaganda against India and Indians, and those doing this for/on CNN should also be exposed for their hate agenda. If they don't like that, they should maybe introspect on what they do for a few dollars more. Aren't they pandering the worst hate instincts of people? Aren't they trying to win eyeballs to the CNN site by gratuitous bombardment with morbid, horrible imagery and the most viciously depraved reporting? Isn't CNN trying to bypass all norms of decent journalism by trying to attract the readership that would otherwise spend their time on the Internet looking for stories on American priests and football coaches and scout coaches and CNN Editors **ggering children?


Compare those to the Reasonable Voices:
1. Sally Kohn
Is India the Rape Capital of the World?
We're horrified by news reports of rape in India and feel lucky we don't live there. But the country with the highest rate of sexual assault isn't India—it's us.
by Sally Kohn
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WTF ! So we let Americans off easily and everything is back to normal ?

Prime Minister Narendra Modi accepts Obama invite, off to US in September

Prime Minister Narendra Modi has accepted an invitation from US President Barack Obama to have bilateral discussions in Washington in September, potentially opening a new chapter in a sometimes edgy relationship between the world’s two biggest democracies.

Government sources in Delhi said that the United States has offered September 30 as the date for the meeting, and the Indian side has asked for it to be advanced to September 26, around the time of Modi’s maiden address at the United Nations General Assembly.

S Jaishankar, the Indian ambassador to the United States, is flying to New Delhi on June 8 for consultations with South Block and the prime minister’s office (PMO), and will brief Modi on the relationship and how to take it forward.

The meeting between Modi and Obama will mean that the US view on the Indian PM has come full circle from the time it imposed a visa ban on him in 2005 in connection with the Gujarat riots three years earlier. The process of rapprochement started in February, when its recently retired ambassador to India, Nancy Powell, went to Ahmedabad to meet Modi, then a PM candidate.

It also comes after an especially difficult period in the relationship, sparked by the arrest and humiliation of Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade in New York over allegations of visa fraud, and a particularly sharp retaliation by the Indian side.

But there could be a meeting of minds on economic ties: Modi has spoken often of the need to make India’s diplomacy trade-focused, and wants big ticket investments from mega corporations like GE, IBM and Microsoft.

The US companies, while broadly enthusiastic about India, have turned skittish of late due to stalled economic reforms, slow growth, and issues over tax, intellectual property and preferential market access.

With Modi’s entry into the PMO, the Indian embassy in Washington has started serious diplomatic efforts to lure investment. For their part, some US defence contractors are keen to sell military hardware to the world’s biggest arms importer.

“All pending bilateral issues will be discussed in the one-day meeting as Modi is keen to push the relationship forward for its economic returns for India,” said a senior South Block official.

Substantive sticking points are the Indian nuclear liability law that makes it difficult for US firms to build nuclear reactors in India, and the waning US support for India’s entry into the Nuclear Suppliers Group, Missile Technology Control Regimes and other export regimes.

Apart from that, Modi is understood to be concerned about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan and its impact on Jammu and Kashmir.
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kish wrote: Shiv ji, To be fair to Americans. They are not at fault for this "state department statement about rape", they were egged on to respond by an Indian (PTI correspondent Lalit K Jha@lalitkjha ). This dimwit doesn't even realize what U.S got to do with law & order situation at home.

Link
Does PTI make a habit of sending certified morons as US correspondents? For crying out loud, what does US Sec of State have to do with Badaun? Who is this moron Lalit Jha? And why is he not on a flight back to India already?
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Frederic wrote:
kish wrote: Shiv ji, To be fair to Americans. They are not at fault for this "state department statement about rape", they were egged on to respond by an Indian (PTI correspondent Lalit K Jha@lalitkjha ). This dimwit doesn't even realize what U.S got to do with law & order situation at home.

Link
Does PTI make a habit of sending certified morons as US correspondents? For crying out loud, what does US Sec of State have to do with Badaun? Who is this moron Lalit Jha? And why is he not on a flight back to India already?
Was he paid to ask this question? I recalk a time when parliament questions were sold by MPs. Probably still are.

I am not on teetar etc, too old. Anyone want to ask this dimwit to ask questions about where he is and not where he is from? That is the point of having a traveling correspondent, isnt it?
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Frederic wrote:
kish wrote: Shiv ji, To be fair to Americans. They are not at fault for this "state department statement about rape", they were egged on to respond by an Indian (PTI correspondent Lalit K Jha@lalitkjha ). This dimwit doesn't even realize what U.S got to do with law & order situation at home.

Link
Does PTI make a habit of sending certified morons as US correspondents? For crying out loud, what does US Sec of State have to do with Badaun? Who is this moron Lalit Jha? And why is he not on a flight back to India already?

He is most likely some grand poohbah's nephew or son whio didnt make the cut in the civil services. So next best option pack him off abroad.

PTI is the worst anti-India news group.

most Indian newspapers subscribe ot its news feed and report it verbatim.
So their confusion gets trickled down all the way to the villages.
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Rony wrote:WTF ! So we let Americans off easily and everything is back to normal ?

Prime Minister Narendra Modi accepts Obama invite, off to US in September

Prime Minister Narendra Modi has accepted an invitation from US President Barack Obama to have bilateral discussions in Washington in September, potentially opening a new chapter in a sometimes edgy relationship between the world’s two biggest democracies.

Government sources in Delhi said that the United States has offered September 30 as the date for the meeting, and the Indian side has asked for it to be advanced to September 26, around the time of Modi’s maiden address at the United Nations General Assembly.

S Jaishankar, the Indian ambassador to the United States, is flying to New Delhi on June 8 for consultations with South Block and the prime minister’s office (PMO), and will brief Modi on the relationship and how to take it forward.

The meeting between Modi and Obama will mean that the US view on the Indian PM has come full circle from the time it imposed a visa ban on him in 2005 in connection with the Gujarat riots three years earlier. The process of rapprochement started in February, when its recently retired ambassador to India, Nancy Powell, went to Ahmedabad to meet Modi, then a PM candidate.

It also comes after an especially difficult period in the relationship, sparked by the arrest and humiliation of Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade in New York over allegations of visa fraud, and a particularly sharp retaliation by the Indian side.

But there could be a meeting of minds on economic ties: Modi has spoken often of the need to make India’s diplomacy trade-focused, and wants big ticket investments from mega corporations like GE, IBM and Microsoft.

The US companies, while broadly enthusiastic about India, have turned skittish of late due to stalled economic reforms, slow growth, and issues over tax, intellectual property and preferential market access.

With Modi’s entry into the PMO, the Indian embassy in Washington has started serious diplomatic efforts to lure investment. For their part, some US defence contractors are keen to sell military hardware to the world’s biggest arms importer.

“All pending bilateral issues will be discussed in the one-day meeting as Modi is keen to push the relationship forward for its economic returns for India,” said a senior South Block official.

Substantive sticking points are the Indian nuclear liability law that makes it difficult for US firms to build nuclear reactors in India, and the waning US support for India’s entry into the Nuclear Suppliers Group, Missile Technology Control Regimes and other export regimes.

Apart from that, Modi is understood to be concerned about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan and its impact on Jammu and Kashmir.
So there, was that hard? Come on over for a state visit. Review the troops. Have a state dinner. Sip some fruit juice or whutever adult beverage. then, next day we'll maybe have a nice luncheon and we'll invite execx from lockheed, boeing, raytheon, apple, microsoft. We'll shoot the breeze, relax. Maybe next day go to the UN and meet the boyz and girlz there. won't be that be nice? Is that so bad?
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UlanBatori wrote:What you need to do instead of ranting, is to list the people who are creating the anti-Indian hype.

Here is a beginning: I am only listing authors and editors where I can find them, ppl can Google their propaganda without my help.
1. Moni Basu of CNN
2. Terrence McCoy of The Washington Post
3. Shashank Bengali of The Los Angeles Times
4. IMTIAZ AKHTAR of CounterPunch
5. Harmeet Shah Singh of CNN
6. Harmeet Shah Singh of CNN (strike 2)
6. Faith Karimi of CNN
7. Sumnima Uddas of CNN, New Delhi and her CNN goons
8. Erin Burnett of CNN
9. Madison Park, CNN
10. Sarah Brown, CNN
11. Daphne Sashin, CNN
12. Katie Hawkins-Gaar, CNN

(I stopped searching for CNN stories, but you can continue the venture, it may run into hundreds of "stories")
13. Biswajeet Banerjee, Associated Press
Kishwar Desai of The Guardian

14. Jason Burke of The Guardian
15. Amartya Sen (sad to say...)

I am certainly not saying that crimes in India should not be reported, exposed, investigated, tried and punished and the victims accorded every assistance, respect, retribution and recompense.

I AM saying that CNN has absolutely no business going and making "Rape in India" their nearly-daily headline.
Nice Batori garu,
Used the above name list to make below twitterlist.
https://twitter.com/sarpamedha/craponin ... up/members

Gents(and Ladies) who keep a watch on India sections of Beeb,DailyWail,Telegraph,AlGaurdian,LA times,**** (ethnic slur deleted - JE Menon),WP,WSJ etc can keep suggesting names to be added to the list.
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Lunch conversation with airhead PYT today...

PYT: "Isnt India concerned about so many rapes happening?"
Abdul: "Yes the government is worried that if this keeps up, then India will come close to matching the US in number of rapes"

End of conversation.
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UlanBatori wrote:....

I am certainly not saying that crimes in India should not be reported, exposed, investigated, tried and punished and the victims accorded every assistance, respect, retribution and recompense.

I AM saying that CNN has absolutely no business going and making "Rape in India" their nearly-daily headline. ....


Compare those to the Reasonable Voices:
1. Sally Kohn
Is India the Rape Capital of the World?
We're horrified by news reports of rape in India and feel lucky we don't live there. But the country with the highest rate of sexual assault isn't India—it's us.
by Sally Kohn
Good points UBji. Unfortunately, It is CNN's business to spew propaganda. It is a propaganda channel. That is why they opened a shop in India. The question is what are Indians going to do about it. Who is more powerful, population of a billion who is acting helpless or a bunch of bought journos of pharin news org? I definitely stopped watching a long time ago. What if we start pressuring advertisers. It is they who are selling rape stories.
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Raja Bose wrote:Lunch conversation with airhead PYT today...

PYT: "Isnt India concerned about so many rapes happening?"
Abdul: "Yes the government is worried that if this keeps up, then India will come close to matching the US in number of rapes"

End of conversation.
This should be tweeted far and wide. OK with you, RB?
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prahaar wrote:This sentence is Acharya redux, are you Acharya or someone deeply inspired by him?
Acharya seems to have disappered. Where is he now-a-days? :-?
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So there, was that hard? Come on over for a state visit. Review the troops. Have a state dinner. Sip some fruit juice or whutever adult beverage. then, next day we'll maybe have a nice luncheon and we'll invite execx from lockheed, boeing, raytheon, apple, microsoft. We'll shoot the breeze, relax. Maybe next day go to the UN and meet the boyz and girlz there. won't be that be nice? Is that so bad?
Time for our friendly DC Paki and his blonde bibi to shake out that sari and nehru jacket and gatecrash that dinner, hain? 8)

I wonder who from the SD will be tasked to meet and greet PM NaMo and his entourage at the airport. :rotfl:
Paco, be careful with those bags now.. yes, you can put down that bowl of crow now
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TSJones wrote: So there, was that hard? Come on over for a state visit. Review the troops. Have a state dinner. Sip some fruit juice or whutever adult beverage. then, next day we'll maybe have a nice luncheon and we'll invite execx from lockheed, boeing, raytheon, apple, microsoft. We'll shoot the breeze, relax. Maybe next day go to the UN and meet the boyz and girlz there. won't be that be nice? Is that so bad?

The US (as far as I know) barred Modi's visa at the instigation of Indians in the US who positioned themselves against Modi and used their influence in the US to play Indian politics in America. Of course it would be silly of Modi to fret about this because the US SD has egg on its face and all those people who tried to get the US involved in Indian political games are eating crow.

On a completely different note - the US learned from its teacher, Britain, lessons on how to host political dissidents from various nations to be employed against those nations if the need arose. This gambit has resulted in an epic LOL fail this time. Coming back on back after the Khobragade incident I think the US would need the services of a competent otorhinolaryngologist, possibly an immigrant Indian, to extricate its foot from its mouth.
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UlanBatori wrote:
So there, was that hard? Come on over for a state visit. Review the troops. Have a state dinner. Sip some fruit juice or whutever adult beverage. then, next day we'll maybe have a nice luncheon and we'll invite execx from lockheed, boeing, raytheon, apple, microsoft. We'll shoot the breeze, relax. Maybe next day go to the UN and meet the boyz and girlz there. won't be that be nice? Is that so bad?
Time for our friendly DC Paki and his blonde bibi to shake out that sari and nehru jacket and gatecrash that dinner, hain? 8)

I wonder who from the SD will be tasked to meet and greet PM NaMo and his entourage at the airport. :rotfl:
Paco, be careful with those bags now.. yes, you can put down that bowl of crow now
oh we'll do you better than Paco. How 'bout the president flanked by Kerry and Hagel? Accompanied by the US Marines Corps drum and bugle corps and the US Army Old Guards?

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NaMo will have chai pe charcha in safed ghar with clueless ombaba. left libtards as toast begging for crumbs and biscuits. 8)

Left libtards will be livid with SD and ombaba.
Christian fundoos will be livid with left labs for not gaming Indian elections amongst others actors.
SD and ombaba livid with all.


ombaba is having a ball :roll: in foreign relations with Kerry.no wonder clueless.

Common enemy will be the SDRES :(( who voted NaMo as PM---> his votes is greater than the next 10 large democracies.
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yes, it will be a poetic justice for the sh!theads in US State Department prepare for Modi visit and how they are going to receive Indian PM.

I want Modi to use shuddha sanskritized hindi for every word he utters in US and use three translators one for English, others for hearing and mentally challenged people.
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In terms of doing damage to US, Kerrorist started where Bushitter left. This has been relentless on US janta but most folks deserve what they get. All these folks were cheering when Bush was killing people by the millions.
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matrimc wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:Lunch conversation with airhead PYT today...

PYT: "Isnt India concerned about so many rapes happening?"
Abdul: "Yes the government is worried that if this keeps up, then India will come close to matching the US in number of rapes"

End of conversation.
This should be tweeted far and wide. OK with you, RB?
Go ahead, be my guest.
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It will be a sight when the Teleprompter in chief US president Obama addressing audience using telepromoter and still falling short of Modi's impromtu speech in terms of thought leadership and quality of delivery.

That would be like comparing sumptuous meal to a heap of dung.
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krisna wrote: Common enemy will be the SDRES :(( who voted NaMo as PM---> his votes is greater than the next 10 large democracies.
The problem with branding someone as an ogre and all his suporters as idiotic ch**tiyas is in the same genre as saying "Only I am sane, everyone else is insane". Amazing that a government can make such an idiotic error. But heck when you depend on sycophants and incompetents to guide you, WYSIWYG. But then our own Khangress did it so wtf.
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Therebis no need for the overjoyed response. We are now just one day ahead of the establishment curve. C-, must do better.
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