Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 12 Jun 2014 23:39

Why is FBR probing only 12 actresses - ASSETS and all? Is that some kind of routine special to pukis that allow such behaviour?? What about rest of people working in puki movies industry? In Pakistan anything can happen.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 12 Jun 2014 23:46

vishvak wrote:Why is FBR probing only 12 actresses - ASSETS and all? Is that some kind of routine special to pukis that allow such behaviour?? What about rest of people working in puki movies industry? In Pakistan anything can happen.

What Puki movie industry ?

-M

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Jun 2014 23:54

Typical. Pakis are running with the hare and hunting with the hound. Drones hit Taliban hideouts in 'joint Pakistan-U.S.' raid, say officials

Two top government officials said Islamabad had given the Americans "express approval" for the strikes - the first time Pakistan has admitted to such cooperation.

But, here's what the pakis in pakiland are hearing their gober-ment say: Pakistan condemns US drone strikes in North Waziristan

Foreign Office spokesperson Tasneem Aslam confirmed and condemned two pre-dawn US drone strikes that struck militant hideouts in North Waziristan in the past 24 hours

Typical!

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 13 Jun 2014 02:21

Aditya_V wrote: Wait the rest of the world has given up steam engines but Pakistan is going back to steam engines??

could not believe the news so clicked the link to make sure it was not a prank

then realized the journey from 21st century to 7th has to go via 19th century. So with steam locos they have shaved off 2 centuries.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 13 Jun 2014 02:53

Wondering if the Talib attack was on a secret drone cold storage/base and not anything serious like the maal.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Jun 2014 07:01

And fishermen pay the price

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 13 Jun 2014 09:07

Peregrine wrote:
He explained that 50 of them would be coal-powered engines of 4500 Horse Power, more powerful than the existing 3000 HP engines of Pakistan Railways.

The Coal will be used to create Steam in a Boiler and this Steam will dirve a Steam Turbine which will Generate Electricity which will then Drive the Locomotive. Voilà!

If railway engines can run on water (steam), why can't car engines run on water, hainji? The Water Kit car engine of Pakistani genius stands vindicated! AoA!

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 13 Jun 2014 09:23

So why doesn't Pakistan have water kit powered locomotives?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Jun 2014 09:49

Because India took away the electricity from the water.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 13 Jun 2014 10:02

The wrong enemy

Of the 28 people killed, 10 were terrorists, sporting suicide vests. Sound like the Taliban to you? A far cry from the gun-toting Talibs who fired at unarmed schoolgirls in a bus in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa — remember Malala Yousafzai — and Shia pilgrims returning from Iran last week. But here’s the thing. It’s not just the Tehreek-e-Taliban, led by the shadowy Mullah Fazlullah who hides in the badlands of Waziristan, that has claimed responsibility for the June 8 Karachi airport assault. So has the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), led by Tahir Yuldashev until he was killed in an American drone strike in August 2009.

The IMU, with strong ties to Osama bin Laden, have had their base deep inside Waziristan ever since the Taliban-Al Qaeda were run out of Kabul in 2001. The reluctance of the Pakistan Army to confront them head-on has seen one more deadly acronym added to the TTP-Al Qaeda-IMU mix — EMI, or the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, that represents the Uighurs, fighting for an independent Xinjiang, that threatens Beijing’s interests in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir and the Baloch port of Gwadar which gives China access to the Gulf.

It’s the Central Asian mix to the terrorists in the Karachi attack however that is a pointer to the regrouping of disparate Sunni groups in the AfPak backyard under the Al Qaeda umbrella, where US forces are poised to leave a skeleton force of just under 10,000 troops that few believe could hold back the tide. Washington isn’t able to see that the Taliban, being given shelter and succour by Doha and Riyadh, as well as sympathetic forces within Pakistan’s Army, will yield to the superior ideological thrust of Al Qaeda, as it did once before.

Mr Modi should take note as he heads out for a September pow-wow with a US President struggling to retain his nation’s fast eroding influence, that this grouping, inherently inimical to the rise of India, that sees little benefit in backing a civilian Pakistan government that wants to build economic ties with Delhi and Kabul.

The Indian ammo used in the Karachi attack was intended to drive home the message, however far-fetched, that the TTP — whose goal incidentally is to establish an Islamic emirate across Afghanistan-Pakistan and Kashmir, and equates Delhi with Tel Aviv and Washington — is an Indian proxy, just as the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami are the ISI’s preferred weapons of choice, whose footprints were all over the Mumbai siege.

Sources close to Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif have said that a clear eyed Mr Sharif has chosen to disregard the Indian ammo as a bogus red herring, recognising the move for what it is — trying to implicate India in what could have been Pakistan’s own 26/11, and in so doing stymie any attempt at peace-making by Islamabad and Delhi in the days to come. It’s no accident that Mr Sharif’s letter to Mr Modi lays to rest all doubts that he was unhappy over his May 26-27 visit to Delhi.

The point, however, is that ever since it became obvious that power would pass from a Congress-led government to one led by Mr Modi, who would pick up where Atal Behari Vajpayee had left, and from where Manmohan Singh’s outreach to Asif Ali Zardari died in the aftermath of 26/11, India would be fair game for terrorists of any nomenclature.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 13 Jun 2014 10:16

Pakistan approves, seeks drone attacks in Waziristan

ISLAMABAD: Two top government officials told Reuters on Thursday the two drone strikes on Wednesday in Waziristan were carried out as a coordinated “joint Pakistan-US operation”.

A Reuters report from Islamabad said 10 militants were killed in this year’s first two drone strikes in Pakistan, officials said on Thursday, six months after the attacks were suspended by Washington to give it space to pursue peace talks with the Taliban.

The report said: “Two top government officials said Pakistan had given the Americans ‘express approval’ for the latest strikes — the first time Pakistan has admitted to such cooperation.”“Baseless” was the one word comment when a correspondent for The News contacted the Foreign Office after Reuters released this report.

“The attacks were launched with the express approval of the Pakistan government and army,” said a top government official, requesting not to be named as he was not authorised to discuss the issue with the media.

“It is now policy that the Americans will not use drones without permission from the security establishment here. There will be complete coordination and Pakistan will be in the loop.”“We understand that drones will be an important part of our fight against the Taliban now,” the official added.

So unkil will continue the killing with national bird but H&D is saved by issuing statements calling it joint operation.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jun 2014 12:32

The question though is, do the Chinese still manufacture coal-fired locos?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jun 2014 12:32

From NightWatch for the night of June 12, 2014

Pakistan: Musharraf gets a break. Today, the Sindh (Province) High Court ordered Mr. Musharraf's name to be removed from the government's Exit Control List (ECL), but suspended execution of the order for 15 days to allow the government to appeal it.

Musharraf's attorney said, "The court has allowed our appeal and ordered to strike down Musharraf´s name from the Exit Control List. The order will be executed after 15 days."

Comment: The government placed Musharraf on the ECL to ensure his appearance at his treason trial.

The order means that the Court agreed with the arguments of the appellant, Musharraf. Those were that Musharraf's heart condition required specialist treatment that could only be obtained abroad and that he needed to tend to his ailing mother who is in Dubai. Musharraf has promised to return to Pakistan for trial because he wants to clear his name.

The Court's ruling provides an opportunity for the government to reduce the threat of an Army takeover of the government by declining to appeal the ruling and, thus, allowing Musharraf to go into exile. For months the Chief of Army Staff has made public comments that convey the Army leadership's strong opposition to the trial of a former Chief of Army Staff for treason.

Musharraf's presence in Pakistan has polarized political interests and caused strain in the Army's relationship with the government. He has been a distraction from the many pressing internal security challenges. The Sindh court has created a chance for reconciliation. If the government challenges the order, internal security will worsen and the threat of another military coup d'état will increase.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jun 2014 13:54

SSridhar wrote:The question though is, do the Chinese still manufacture coal-fired locos?

I consulted Uncle Gokul and discovered that Steam Engines are both maintenance intensive and labour intensive and nobody wants to touch them. However Cheenis mey be clever enough to palm off an old disused assembly line rat brain cousin marriage affected Bakis.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 13 Jun 2014 14:35

shiv wrote:
SSridhar wrote:The question though is, do the Chinese still manufacture coal-fired locos?
I consulted Uncle Gokul and discovered that Steam Engines are both maintenance intensive and labour intensive and nobody wants to touch them. However Cheenis mey be clever enough to palm off an old disused assembly line rat brain cousin marriage affected Bakis.

It is the best possible solution. Think of the tourist extravaganza, and vacuum related, er, accidents from exploding boilers. win/win for everyone. I say convert karachi airport into a railway station. complete with bulbuddin ghuaomatyar therapy lounges.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jun 2014 14:39

Shreeman wrote:
It is the best possible solution. Think of the tourist extravaganza, and vacuum related, er, accidents from exploding boilers. win/win for everyone. I say convert karachi airport into a railway station. complete with bulbuddin ghuaomatyar therapy lounges.

I guess you are right. After all Pakistan has the world's <insert number here> largest coal reserves.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 13 Jun 2014 15:25

Pakistan is a diamond but existing in the form of coal lump (with apologies to coal lump)

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 13 Jun 2014 15:31

A Taliban raid in Pakistan

Terror at the airport

Cheers

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jun 2014 15:53

STFU-TSP violates ceasefire in Poonch - ToI
The new government must use this opportunity to tell the TSPians that times have changed.

habal · Post by **habal** » 13 Jun 2014 16:13

OMG .. haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2qk5SZDb4

now napakis can get all the explosions they want. What an idea.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Jun 2014 17:12

Not these I suppose:
http://www.csrail.org/index.php/researc ... ocomotive1
or
http://www.csrail.org/index.php/researc ... m-advances

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 13 Jun 2014 19:26

UK: Heroin hoard found in carpets from Pakistan

Border Force officers at the Manchester Airport have seized a large amount of heroin worth millions of pounds which was hidden inside a shipment of carpets from Pakistan in one of the largest drug seizures at the airport.

The seizure of the drug smuggled in a novel way was made when officers became suspicious of a 46-piece consignment of hand-made knotted carpets that had arrived from Peshawar via Abu Dhabi

revealed a highly sophisticated concealment where the drug was woven into the fabric of the carpet. Several other carpets also tested positive for heroin.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 13 Jun 2014 19:43

Well they are just trying to increase Uk GDP

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 13 Jun 2014 19:48

Do the rakshaks know why Pakistan, the shithole of the world, is so important for the rest of us? Here's why:

All the organs of the body were having a meeting, trying to decide who was the one in charge.

"I should be in charge," said the brain, "Because I run all the body's systems, so without me nothing would happen."

"I should be in charge," said the blood, "Because I circulate oxygen all over so without me you'd all waste away."

"I should be in charge," said the stomach," Because I process food and give all of you energy."

"I should be in charge," said the legs, "because I carry the body wherever it needs to go."

"I should be in charge," said the eyes, "Because I allow the body to see where it goes."

"I should be in charge," said the rectum, "Because I'm responsible for waste removal."

All the other body parts laughed at the rectum and insulted him. So in a huff, he shut down tight. Within a few days, the brain had a terrible headache, the stomach was bloated, the legs got wobbly, the eyes got watery, and the blood was toxic. It was then they all decided that the rectum should be the boss.

The Moral of the story?

Even though the others do all the work...the ass hole is usually in charge by not working

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 13 Jun 2014 20:47

Peregrine wrote:A Taliban raid in Pakistan

Terror at the airport

Cheers

But whereas once it was the Pakistani army who refused to be pushed around by the Americans, for the past year it has been prime minister Nawaz Sharif who has been holding back the generals. With the NATO drawdown in neighbouring Afghanistan now in full swing, the top brass believe they have to take control of North Waziristan, the last remaining part of Pakistan’s troubled borderlands where there have not been operations. Mr Sharif has resisted their requests, fearing a major terrorist backlash and because of the relentless opposition of Imran Khan, the demagogic right-winger who is the only plausible challenger to the prime minister in his political heartland of Punjab province.

I wonder if this moron Khan who has his alliance with UK-Jewish wealthy scums thru his separated wife Jemina Khan is another mole to keep violence in this region.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Jun 2014 22:19

anupmisra wrote:Delusions of Grandeur per Paki Radio

Pakistan offers ideal business opportunities: WSJ report

May be WSJ meant "business end" as in if you have a big gun (like in a tank) there is lot of opportunity to find crore kommandoos in P'stan to face the "Business end".

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 13 Jun 2014 23:00

Kunwar Khuldune says it again:

The Foreign Hand

The TTP, LeJ, Jaishul Adl, et al are all propagators of a foreign ideology that has for centuries been hell bent on destroying the land of the Indus Valley Civilisation, and chopping off its cultural roots

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 14 Jun 2014 00:04

Army wants to fight but civilians holding it back is a pile of BS. the army never wanted to fight. Even under Musharraf they kept on signing peace deals with the Taliban. In any case when did paki army ever listen to civilians? Army doesn't want to fight the Taliban because of three reasons. They still think Taliban are their friends and will help capture Afghanistan and JK. they are afraid to take on the Taliban because they will get a bloody nose and lastly they are afraid of the cohesion of their units who won't fight their own brothers, who after all just want to bring sharia to Pakistan.

Nawaz and Imran khan are locked in a proxy fight for Pakjab. Whoever wins pakjab wins prime minister ship. Nawaz doesn't want to attack the talibs because the Taliban will set fire to pakjab and suddenly Imran Kahn's idea of talking to Taliban will make a lot of sense to pakjabis and Nawaz will lose support. So he is biding his time. Taliban too are clever. They keep attacking Karachi because they have pashtun support there. They also know that Nawaz won't go after them as long as they leave pakjab alone. On top of that, if they control Karachi they control money.

So the current situation suits everyone. Talibs attack Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar. Nawaz keeps quiet, does a few F16 and drone attacks. Army doesn't want to fight, spreads rumors how they are raring to go if only the civilians will let them (mark my words, they will conduct a soft coup and depose Nawaz before they take the Talibs full on. What is this nonsense then about Nawaz restraining them?) It is a party all around.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Jun 2014 00:18

Anujan, A bigger fear of the PAA is their ranks will melt away and join the faithful. So they wont fight.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 14 Jun 2014 01:26

Yes the PAF fellow turned jihadi interview is illuminating. People are going from the armed forces to jihadi outfits for training. They are also embedded into jihadi outfits. For example when Mullah Nazir picked up a fight with his co yahoos, army commandoes fought side by side with his yahoos. On top of that the yahoos are a lot more principled in their focus to bring true sharia without kufr actions like taking money from US or drinking alcohol.

Now why would a Pakistan army brother want to fight his jihadi brother? Better idea would be to join ranks and overthrow the jahil generals.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 14 Jun 2014 02:24

Agnimitra wrote:Kunwar Khuldune says it again:

The Foreign Hand
The TTP, LeJ, Jaishul Adl, et al are all propagators of a foreign ideology that has for centuries been hell bent on destroying the land of the Indus Valley Civilisation, and chopping off its cultural roots

and

The foreign ideological hand that is wreaking havoc in Pakistan first usurped this territory in 712 AD. And every Islamist imperialist from Muhammad bin Qasim to Hakeemullah Mehsud has been hailed as a hero in this realm, despite being the land’s biggest enemy.

It has pretty much succeeded I would say. I learned today that just before Partition, Hindus & Sikhs were in the majority in Karachi, and most of them were gone by January 1948.

arun · Post by **arun** » 14 Jun 2014 10:37

Indian origin T.V.Paul, Professor of International Studies at McGill University, while discussing his book on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which is titled “The Warrior State”:

What fuels Pakistan's mass acceleration of military weapons is its embittered and egoistic stance against India, Paul said, adding: "It is more of a conflict over status with India."

"They thought themselves as co-equals with India, but they lost Bangladesh and Kashmir. So this is the perfect case of a brother who didn't get his share.

"This is one of the biggest reasons for its embitterment," he said.

Extract from here:

'Pakistan's leaders lack vision, obsessed with India'

Meanwhile the unfortunate spectacle of some Indian’s pandering to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by doing an equal = equal when the message that ought to be sent is to the Islamic Republic is that she is unquestionably inferior to India and cannot afford to compete with India on military power or status without inflicting great pain on herself:

When did you last watch a Pakistani movie? The mindless insulation of Indians from all things from Pakistan hints at a superiority complex

What’s there not to feel superior about the Islamic Republic of Pakistan?

Laws that are discriminatory and do not permit Non-Mohammaddens standing for the office of President or Prime Minister?

Laws that are barbaric and prescribe being stoned to death for adultery?

Laws that punish a three year child for the alleged crimes of the child’s uncle as under the Frontier Crimes Regulation?

Laws that sanctify the rape of children as young as 10 years old by providing the camouflage of marriage using Mohammadden religious Law?

Laws that make it well nigh impossible to prove rape by insisting upon 4 pious Adult Male Mohammadden witnesses while rejecting permissibility of using DNA tests for rape convictions?

Laws that ludicrously manufacturer a crime of Posing as a Muslim that to in an Islamic Republic?

A Military that thinks nothing of launching coup’s and usurping power.?

A Military that uses disproportionate and indiscriminate force against its own population by way of use of aerial and artillery bombardment?

A Military so enamoured of Mohammaddenism especially that of waging Jihad, that it stupidly thought that it was immune against the depredations of Mohammadden Terrorists it itself had raised to target India and which today is ravaging the Islamic Republic?

A Military that has gorged so much natural resources that the country has none left to eradicate Polio?

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 14 Jun 2014 10:55

Pakistan has ‘very, very key position’ in South Asia: Kerry

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 14 Jun 2014 10:59

From the above,

US Secretary of State John Kerry said on Friday that recent developments in South Asia had placed Pakistan in a “very, very key” position and had further increased the need for staying engaged with that country.

“Obviously, Pakistan is very, very key now, has been for 70 years,” the secretary said. “Now with the transition in Afghanistan, with the new government in India, with certain challenges that we’re both facing in terms of counter-terrorism,” it had become even more crucial to stay engaged with Pakistan, he added.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 14 Jun 2014 12:38

shiv wrote:
Shreeman wrote:
It is the best possible solution. Think of the tourist extravaganza, and vacuum related, er, accidents from exploding boilers. win/win for everyone. I say convert karachi airport into a railway station. complete with bulbuddin ghuaomatyar therapy lounges.
I guess you are right. After all Pakistan has the world's <insert number here> largest coal reserves.

Also the beshtu vacuum resources, 180 plus million of them.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 14 Jun 2014 14:10

new flash about earthquake in NW Paki lands

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 14 Jun 2014 14:27

Pakis have been feeling plenty of these tremors lately.
Not to forget the island that has popped up in Arabian Sea after 2013 earthquake.
Allah has been merciful to them, gifting land like this, when evil Indians had snatched a lot of it.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 14 Jun 2014 14:39

Balochistan's Christian MPA gunned down in Quetta

Either LeJ or HuJI must be involved.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 Jun 2014 16:05

arun wrote:Indian origin T.V.Paul, Professor of International Studies at McGill University, while discussing his book on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which is titled “The Warrior State”

I read this book last month. It paraphrases the same findings that we discuss on this forum. Bottom line, this rent-a-warrior mentality is a British legacy.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 Jun 2014 16:08

I wonder if the current turmoil in Iraq/Syria (you know, the fratricide between the "green and greener") and with Eye-ran and the Turks poised to jump in the fray, will have any spillover effect on the pakis? These rent-a-warrior pakis are itching for the next one.