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6 modern Telugu political icons

Alluri Sita Rama Raju, revolutionary who fought against British

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Komaram Bheem, revolutionary who fought against the Nizam

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Tanguturi Prakasam, chief minister of Madras Presidency

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Potti Sreeramulu, revolutionary who fought against British, Social reformer who fought for Harijans, the only person in Independent India who has fasten onto death and the main indirect architect of India's linguistic states

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Nandamuri Taraka Ramarao


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Pamulaparti Venkata Narasimha Rao

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NTR and PVNR together
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VN is from Nellore. It is called Puncha. White cloth one. Almost same as Lungi, but Lungis come in all colors. Dhothi is normally worn in all AP including Nellore. Puncha is also common.
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Both punche (AKA puncha) and dhoti (what we used to say is more like dhovati) are usually white or a light yellow (cream) colored or sometimes they come in other colors too like red, blue, or orange - especially silk ones. There are two ways to wear them depending on the length. Longer ones are worn with a "gOchi" and the shorter ones are worn with no gOchi, i.e. worn like a lungi. Sometimes people get a short cloth stitched into a cylinder which can be quickly worn without gOchi. For wearing the long cloth with gOchi, it is not popssible to have this convenience. I hope people know the fact that tailoring and tailored clothes came to India during mughal times. I remember reading in bAbar nAma in which bAbar laments that there are no tailors in hindoostAn and he had to import them from *wherever* (farghana?).

It is common for women to wear 9 yard sarees with a gOchi in olden days (and even today in Telangana and rural MH - konkan, vidarbha) and 6 yard sarees are worn in the new style. One might have seen Smita Patil in 9 yard sarees in some movies (and possibly Madhuri Dixit?). With gOchi type saree wearing, women show large part of their calves which is not the case when women wear 6 yard non-gOchi style sarees. Same with panche with gOchi and lungi style with no gOchi - men show their calves while wearing the former.

BTW, if one wants to sit on the floor (usually for eating purposes), gOchi style is lot more comfortable than lungi style. Also lungi style wear traps lot more hot air in the nether regions.
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Rony sir, Too many present AP side people are shown by you as Telugu icons. TRS people may get angry and BR may get banned in T state. As of now lot of TV news channels are not coming in Hyderabad as TRS banned them. Power cut is also there in the city for hours.
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That PVNR and NTR image is the height of Telugu stalwarts at the height of its modern glory. Later it is all downslide. It is sweet memory and also tells us what a sad state we ended up.
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pandyan wrote:lungi??? he is wearing a white colour cloth and it is called a dhoti/veshti in TN
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That style of wearing is called lungi in AP. Look how Rosaiah, PVN and NTR are wearing. It is called dhoti in AP. It's the same white cloth but it is worn in a different way in AP.
You are right. Irrespective of white or colored, if someone wears like VN is wearing it will be called lungi in AP. Dhoti means the traditional and authentic way of wearing which PVNR/NTR used to wear. The same that Rossiah or even YSR wears.

In marriages, the groom is forced to wear the traditional way of dhoti. Off course a lot more are off-traditions and amended-traditions these days.

Pancha is just another Telugu word for the long cloth meant for wear and it has nothing to do with style of wearing. Dhovati is the full form of Dhoti.
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Muppalla have you read my post? :)
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matrimc wrote:Both punche (AKA puncha) and dhoti (what we used to say is more like dhovati) are usually white or a light yellow (cream) colored or sometimes they come in other colors too like red, blue, or orange - especially silk ones. There are two ways to wear them depending on the length. Longer ones are worn with a "gOchi" and the shorter ones are worn with no gOchi, i.e. worn like a lungi. Sometimes people get a short cloth stitched into a cylinder which can be quickly worn without gOchi. For wearing the long cloth with gOchi, it is not popssible to have this convenience. I hope people know the fact that tailoring and tailored clothes came to India during mughal times. I remember reading in bAbar nAma in which bAbar laments that there are no tailors in hindoostAn and he had to import them from *wherever* (farghana?).

It is common for women to wear 9 yard sarees with a gOchi in olden days (and even today in Telangana and rural MH - konkan, vidarbha) and 6 yard sarees are worn in the new style.
One might have seen Smita Patil in 9 yard sarees in some movies (and possibly Madhuri Dixit?). With gOchi type saree wearing, women show large part of their calves which is not the case when women wear 6 yard non-gOchi style sarees. Same with panche with gOchi and lungi style with no gOchi - men show their calves while wearing the former.

BTW, if one wants to sit on the floor (usually for eating purposes), gOchi style is lot more comfortable than lungi style. Also lungi style wear traps lot more hot air in the nether regions.
more detailed sir. I missed your post.

That style of wear for women is still prevalent in orthodox families of AP. They are supposed to wear like that only on very ritualistic based religious procedures. Not for pomp-and-show type functions (marriages, or regular festivals). For example if they do things like yagna/homam or havan the women in orthodox families still wear the same way that you see in Marathi movies.


There is one more thing I like to share regarding the work punche.

Generally the traditional White long cloth that has border or no border is worn as dhothee. The gochee part if it visible like what you see for PVNR/NTR style wearing or a Smita patil type wear then you call the split as gochee. But women for religious function in AP also wear it differently. The wear so that gochee goes inside the wrap and it is not visible outside. This kind of style is called "kacchaa posi kattu". Looks stylish and elegant :)

One more note:
In Krishna, Godavari districts and non-Palnadu portions of Guntur districts (considered as chaste-Telugu language lands), Punche ( a.k.a Dhovati) is very common for men. However, during the very old days when widowed women used to wear white clothes, they also used the same Punche. So "punche kattuko" which literally means wear a dhothi used to be same to tell either men or women. It is never uttered to suhagans. However, in Palnadu portions of Guntur Dt and I believe even in prakasam district, they use the same language "punche kattuko" for telling "wear an saree". My mom(Krishna Dt) always tells this language stuff to pull legs of my dad's side (Palanadu region) folks. She is critical of her MIL for asking her to "wear a punche" on her wedding day. :).

That was the level of difference even inside coastal AP. Today all these are 30 minute driving distances.
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^Coming to South of Palnadu and Rayalaseema

What Shri Rosaiah is wearing is called Dhoti/Dhovati and what Shri Venkaiah Naidu is wearing is called Panche. There is no confusion there.
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Lungi is colored/checkered punche worn with or without stiching. Stiched Lungi is like cylinder-shaped. Even Panche when stiched is called lungi (lungi punche). When it is unstitched it is called Panche only. Panche is traditionally light-colored/Saffron-colored. Dark colored means it is lungi.

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Both gentlemen are wearing the same garment. Dhovati or the shortened name Dhoti refers to the garment, which is usually four meters long. The traditional style, as Rosaia is wearing it is called Pancha-kattu. It refers to the five knots involved in wearing it thus. VN is also wearing the same four-meter garment, but you fold it once into two-meter length and then tie it around the waist. Just two of the many different styles of wearing a Dhovati.
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Folks,

Prof. Yellapragada Sudharshan Rao is appointed new head of Indian Council of Historical Research by @smritiirani. Any profile and insight on this gentleman. ?

He is a retired history prof from Kakatiya University Warangal. He hails from Mahabunagar district of TG.
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Rony wrote:Prof Y Sudharshan Rao appointed ICHR Chief
Yellapragada Sudharshan Rao, former Professor of Kakatiya University in Warangal, has been appointed as Chairman of Indian Council of Historical Research (ICHR).

According to university sources, Prof Rao, who hails from Kollapur in Mahabubnagar district of Telangana, will be holding the post of ICHR Chief for a term of three years.

He is expected to assume the charge on June 28 in New Delhi.

He retired from Kakatiya University Department of History where he was Head of the Department and also served as Dean of Faculty Sciences.

He worked at the university for about 40 years. Prof Rao has about 40 research papers published in various national and international journals to his credit.

He has travelled extensively and visited countries like US, England and Malaysia.
His blog with some interesting papers he presented. Hope he rescues Indian history from the clutches of marxists and psecs

http://ysudershanrao.blogspot.com
Rony wrote:This paper is by Yellapragada Sudershan Rao who has recently been appointed as chairman of ICHR

Interplay of Autocracy, Nationalism and Communalism In Hyderabad State under the Last Nizam – An Overview
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This was a very much needed development. I also hope he can turn around things.
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Thanks Rony garu. I am searching for any other works.

Added later:
Going through his blog makes him a way stronger Indic like our Shri Kaushal Vepa. Good selection by Smriti.
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Muppalla wrote:Thanks Rony garu. I am searching for any other works.

Added later:
Going through his blog makes him a way stronger Indic like our Shri Kaushal Vepa. Good selection by Smriti.
He is a sishya of Sri Satguru Sivananda Murthy!

Other known sishyas of Satguru are Andhra Bhoomi Editor Sri K V Sastry, Poet Sirivennela Sitarama Sastry etc.,
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Telangana has finally decided not to pay student fee arrears from Andhra origin Students. When questioned about how Telangana students were expected to submit 1956 nativity certificates of their parents, Telangana education minister G. Jagadeeshwar Reddy's answer was

There is no need for Telangana students to prove their nativity. We can identify them by their names, surnames or by looking at their faces. The taxes paid by Telangana people should be spent for their benefit only,” Mr Reddy said.

Now the Telangana ministers are going to decide the local status of a student by looking at their faces.

http://deccan-journal.com/content/telan ... n-students
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bhavani wrote:Telangana has finally decided not to pay student fee arrears from Andhra origin Students. When questioned about how Telangana students were expected to submit 1956 nativity certificates of their parents, Telangana education minister G. Jagadeeshwar Reddy's answer was

There is no need for Telangana students to prove their nativity. We can identify them by their names, surnames or by looking at their faces. The taxes paid by Telangana people should be spent for their benefit only,” Mr Reddy said.

Now the Telangana ministers are going to decide the local status of a student by looking at their faces.

http://deccan-journal.com/content/telan ... n-students
Can't such face-recognition based benefit distribution challenged in court? Sounds more like a Fatwa from FATA.
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There are generally acceptable nativity principles like 4 years in Art 371D and places like Karnataka it is 5 years for any plot allotment exercise etc. But the purpose of TRS is kicking out "Non Locals" just like Kashmiri Pundits. For that purpose all kinds of insults, abuses, attacks, threats. If you go to AP High Court, they will beat you in the court itself. They have even beaten a High Court Judge in AP High Court few years back and nothing happened to them. Any stay on this order by AP HIgh Court will result in attacks on the lawyers and the Judges.
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bhavani wrote:When questioned about how Telangana students were expected to submit 1956 nativity certificates of their parents, Telangana education minister G. Jagadeeshwar Reddy's answer was There is no need for Telangana students to prove their nativity. We can identify them by their names, surnames or by looking at their faces. The taxes paid by Telangana people should be spent for their benefit only,” Mr Reddy said.
This is Paki/Nizam logic.This is how Nizam behaved with Hindus.Now these nizam bhakts are using the same techniques on Andhras. Can anyone tell me how a telangana face looks different from a Andhra face ? or Telangana name is different from a Andhra name ? Jagadeeshwar Reddy is as common in Andhra as it is in Telangana. Even many surnames are common between two regions. Does this lahori logic even stand a chance in a court of law ?
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KCR is still in full agitation mode sir. Like Khejriwala. Already attacked L&T on Metro and it may soon withdraw from Metro project. During T agitation L&T was unofficially given an assurance by senior MHA officials that there will be no division of AP on cards and it can go ahead with its investment in the project. I am personally aware of this. Yet like many other things L&T now left to fend for itself with KCR demanding that it do underground work which was not agreed and which may not be feasable in the first place. Reason - Historical constructions. Real reason seems to be no money is being paid to KCR and Sultan Bazar "Secular" market can not be vacated for Metro.

Great news is the appointment of Ex Kakathiya University (hot bed of naxals and left radicals) professor being appointed as head of History position by NDA. Just kicking in the ba**s of leftist fellows.
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What is the great Narendra Modi doing when Indian citizens who even voted for him are being insulted and discriminated against in their own country ?

The tiresome logic of having "honeymoon" period and "only one month in office" cannot be excused any longer. He refuses to articulate his own positions and continuously focuses on "social media outreach" that too on "positive yet inconsequential issues" like PSLV launches and what not, never on identifying and addressing curent issues.. he seems smitten by a bania minded thinking that "economic development" alone is the panacea of all problems... which is as short sighted as his party's ostrich posture on the T issue.

Can someone explain to him that when an ethnic cleansing is on the verge of happening, we expect something more from a PM than an angry facebook post or tweet ? Diverting public attention from existing/impending ethnic cleansings and focusing on bojitiv news - is more Paki than Sanghi behavior.

The only difference between MMS and NaMo seems to be his better administrative skills, there is doubt that he may carry out any of the nationalist agendas - many people are already losing faith. .. it is hard to believe he is going to grow some cojones and be different after budget session.
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^^^ Glad someone said it. The administration has said not a word or even cautioning this regime from the continued bile and vitriol. I figured the whole nativity issue would be something easy that the center could squash because its frankly ridiculous/illegal on top of which it disenfranchises SC/ST/BC's. Coupled with the water wars being played out depriving drinking water to a region experiencing heat waves is bewildering.
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For those trolling the PM repeatedly and demanding 'why doesn't NaMo do something', why don't you explain what a prime minister's powers are in this situation to do anything ? This is an elected state government, and another elected national government we are talking about, with clear separation of powers between state and center, and an independent mandate to act in different matters, within a Federal constitutional structure. It would help if people actually explain what it is the government can do within the scope of the constitutional separation of powers here, before they accuse the government of not doing it. It's quite possible that the central government has no power to act within the constitutional structure here regarding whatever it is they demand, and that it falls under the realm of state powers - those who elected the state government should be willing to live with the consequences of it, right ?
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Pls find out the identity of "mChilian" and use some admin chilli powder so that peace prevails in this Dhaga.

He is the khujliwal of this dhaga
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Rony wrote:
bhavani wrote:When questioned about how Telangana students were expected to submit 1956 nativity certificates of their parents, Telangana education minister G. Jagadeeshwar Reddy's answer was There is no need for Telangana students to prove their nativity. We can identify them by their names, surnames or by looking at their faces. The taxes paid by Telangana people should be spent for their benefit only,” Mr Reddy said.
This is Paki/Nizam logic.This is how Nizam behaved with Hindus.Now these nizam bhakts are using the same techniques on Andhras. Can anyone tell me how a telangana face looks different from a Andhra face ? or Telangana name is different from a Andhra name ? Jagadeeshwar Reddy is as common in Andhra as it is in Telangana. Even many surnames are common between two regions. Does this lahori logic even stand a chance in a court of law ?
If Telangana "Education" minister says he can identify a telangana student by his face, then he knows what he is talking about. Each student will be double checked for his nativity using known t-networks. I am confident of this process because TRS will not discriminate against true T-students. Honest to god, this is a fool-proof system in current circumstances.

I request posters to read the illegal immigration thread where posters are confident of identifying BD immigrants by their faces, slang and lungi styles. If it can be done in WB, then it can be done TN.

There needs to be some cleanup before things can get better.
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can we identify telangana guys from their face and send them out of bangalore?
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RamaY wrote:
If Telangana "Education" minister says he can identify a telangana student by his face, then he knows what he is talking about. Each student will be double checked for his nativity using known t-networks. I am confident of this process because TRS will not discriminate against true T-students. Honest to god, this is a fool-proof system in current circumstances.

I request posters to read the illegal immigration thread where posters are confident of identifying BD immigrants by their faces, slang and lungi styles. If it can be done in WB, then it can be done TN.

There needs to be some cleanup before things can get better.

Does your clean up include all Telugu people who does not have a TG accent? within current TG parlance a clean up is a total purge of all Telugu people whose forefathers do not belong to TG from Hyderabad and TG people publicly talk about it. And what is this T-Networks, is this some thing like gestapo but which will concentrate on picking and disenfranchising non TG Telugu people?
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geeth wrote:Pls find out the identity of "mChilian" and use some admin chilli powder so that peace prevails in this Dhaga.

He is the khujliwal of this dhaga

No need for that. He is only bringing valid points.
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Jay wrote: Does your clean up include all Telugu people who does not have a TG accent? within current TG parlance a clean up is a total purge of all Telugu people whose forefathers do not belong to TG from Hyderabad and TG people publicly talk about it. And what is this T-Networks, is this some thing like gestapo but which will concentrate on picking and disenfranchising non TG Telugu people?
Cleanup is in Govt processes, structures and information/data. Not people.

I am yet to see a GoTN statement saying the Andhra settlers have to leave the state.

All I hear for now is that TN govt schemes are limited to TN people based on some criteria.

Do not put your words in others' mouths. I am capable of clearly writing what I am thinking.
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kvraghav wrote:can we identify telangana guys from their face and send them out of bangalore?
Sorry for an aggressive sounding challenge but are you the zamindar of B'lur? Under what law you want to send T (or for that matter TN, AP, MH, North) people out of B'lur?

It is perfectly OK to to not give reduced fee/free education in public institutions which derive even some part of their funding from the state. Are Ts somehow getting a free ride on KT tax payers' backs?

As RamaY said, T is an integral part of India and T govt. has to operate under Indian constitution and laws. If they don't the govt. can and will be dismissed.

May I point out that there were dire predictions of large scale violence in T, particularly in Hyderabad. Has any of that happened? We want all to succeed according their abilities - hard work and acumen. Nothing more nothing less.
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RamaY wrote: I am yet to see a GoTN statement saying the Andhra settlers have to leave the state.

All I hear for now is that TN govt schemes are limited to TN people based on some criteria.
This is where TG vaadis are disingenuous. TG vaadis and the state is not going to come out and put an official statement saying people who migrated to Hyderabad need to leave, but they will leave no stone unturned to make policy changes which will excommunicate, and disenfranchise these people. The first step toward that goal was to classify people who migrated to Hyderabad after 1956 as non residents and thus be ineligible for state benefits.

Oh BTW, I need not put words in your month. They were there all along.
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RamaY wrote:If Telangana "Education" minister says he can identify a telangana student by his face, then he knows what he is talking about. Each student will be double checked for his nativity using known t-networks. I request posters to read the illegal immigration thread where posters are confident of identifying BD immigrants by their faces, slang and lungi styles. If it can be done in WB, then it can be done TN.

So BD illegals == Andhras who came to Hyderabad after 1956 because it was their capital ? What are you smoking ? Seriously !
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^ The residency rule is applied to all Indians who's parents were not residents of TN before 1956. How can one say it is against Andhra people?
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Rony wrote:
RamaY wrote:If Telangana "Education" minister says he can identify a telangana student by his face, then he knows what he is talking about. Each student will be double checked for his nativity using known t-networks. I request posters to read the illegal immigration thread where posters are confident of identifying BD immigrants by their faces, slang and lungi styles. If it can be done in WB, then it can be done TN.

So BD illegals == Andhras who came to Hyderabad after 1956 because it was their capital ? What are you smoking ? Seriously !
Bliss to think Rony garu. You know me for long.

The pre-1956 rule is for all Indians who are residing in Telangana area. It is not selectively applied to Andhra Pradesh state people. Yes there are many AP origin people in TN but that is the whole reason for TN demand to begin with.

BD illegals also have a date. Any BD resident whose parents moved to India prior to 1947 is an Indian resident.

My comparison between BD/Andhra people is w.r.t TN education minister's claim to recognize them by looks/dress/slang.
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RamaY wrote:^ The residency rule is applied to all Indians who's parents were not residents of TN before 1956. How can one say it is against Andhra people?
And because it is against all Indians and not just against Telugu's somehow makes it just? And to your point about "How can one say it is against Andhra people", you and your ilk did not gain TG by railing against Hyderabadi sikhs, or marwadis, or gujaratis but against Telugu people who migrated to Hyderabad, so there's your answer.
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Jay garu,

'real/perceived' exploitation by Andhras (not Nizams, not Turks, Not North Indians, Not Mughals, Not British) is the ONLY reason behind Telangana state demand and realization. How can they go back on this, now?

Just relax and let the karma do its play.
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RamaY wrote:Yes there are many AP origin people in TN but that is the whole reason for TN demand to begin with.
But I thought TG vaadis wanted a separate state because united AP did not develop TG. Is it not dora? Like you yourself are coming out, "lack of development in TG" argument was an excuse to get a new state, while the openly unsaid reason was to purge non TG Telugu people from Hyderabad. Sad to see that someone like you not only agree with this but blatantly propagate such discrimination. I guess Indic/Dharmic ways does not apply to TG vaadis.
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Re: Telugu States' News and Discussion

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Re: Telugu States' News and Discussion

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RamaY wrote:The pre-1956 rule is for all Indians who are residing in Telangana area. It is not selectively applied to Andhra Pradesh state people.
RamaY garu, you know, I know, everyone knows that in practise this was intended only for Andhras. As you said in other post, they are concerned only about Andhras, not north Indians, not Muslims, not British, not xyz. Besides if 1956 is considered as cutoff year, what about people who are born in Telangana but whose parents migrated after 1956 ? These children are not locals of AP. Now with this twisted logic, they will be considered as not local in TN. There will be not here nor there. What will they do ? And we are talking about poor children (not middle class, not rich folks) who depend on the govt fee reimbursement. I won't even bother replying about identifying Andhras by their faces etc.
metric wrote:Sorry for an aggressive sounding challenge but are you the zamindar of B'lur? Under what law you want to send T (or for that matter TN, AP, MH, North) people out of B'lur?
Sorry to butt in between but if the T govt really want to follow law, they could have studied this from the point of mulki rules or have a presidential order defining local and non local status or discuss with AP govt and arrive at a mutually agreed solution ?
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Re: Telugu States' News and Discussion

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Mitrulara,

It is futile to argue whether TG demand is right or wrong at this point. We have crossed the Rubicon and Telangana state is reality.

Now Govt of TG is doing what it thinks is in the best interests of the state and mandate of TG people.

The fee-reimbursement program costs 5-6,000 crores per year and estimates put the andhra students studying in (mainly) Hyderabad cost >1000 crores. This is definitely large sum for TG govt. They can build a small irrigation project with this money or give Rs2-3000 stipend to all old people in TG. So nothing wrong in them thinking the way they are thinking.

One can definitely argue & request the 1956 date-limit to be changed to another date any time between 4032BC-2014ADand get it approved by Govt of TG.

The journalist's question of "How do you determine one's parent's are residents of TG before 1956?" is a rhetorical question and got a rhetorical answer from the "education" minister.

There is no point in us worrying about this much. Let things be what they are.
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