India-US Strategic News and Discussion

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 03 Jul 2014 00:11

Rudradev wrote:
vivek.rao wrote:What is Berkeley Haas Cauldron?

http://nonprofit.haas.berkeley.edu/rese ... eople.html

Armed Conflict Resolution and People’s Rights

Creating Policy and Protocols for Redress and Restitution

Project Outline

People and Partners

Biographies

The Project Co-chairs
Shashi Buluswar.
Angana Chatterji.
Working Group Members
The Project’s Working Group is comprised of two Sub-Groups: Dr. Buluswar heads the Policy Sub-Group; Dr. Chatterji heads the Protocol Sub-Group. The Working Group combines scholars and technical experts with relevant experience with broad social and local issues, and existing national and international frameworks.

Naomi Roht-Arriaza, Distinguished Professor of Law, University of California, Hastings College of the Law.
Rajvinder Singh Bains, Lawyer, Punjab High Court and Haryana High Court.
Mihir Desai, Lawyer, Mumbai High Court and Supreme Court of India.
Meenakshi Ganguly, Human Rights Policy Expert and South Asia Director, Human Rights Watch.
Parvez Imroz, Lawyer, Jammu & Kashmir High Court and President, Jammu & Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society, Srinagar.
Harsh Mander, Director, Center for Equity Studies, Delhi.
Jaykumar Menon, Legal Expert and Professor of Practice, McGill University.
Binalakshmi Nepram, Founder, Manipur Women Gun Survivors Network, Delhi and Manipur.
Sudhir Pattnaik, Human Rights Expert and Editor of Samadrusti, a human rights news magazine, Bhubaneswar.
Jeremy Sarkin, Extraordinary Professor of Law, University of South Africa & Former Chairperson of the United Nations Working Group on Enforced or Involuntary Disappearances.
Teesta Setalvad, Secretary, Citizens for Justice and Peace, Mumbai.

Every traitor is represented here with active connivance of MQ

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 03 Jul 2014 01:31

^ These people are just waiting for an incident, which they can then use as a propaganda tool to convince GOTUS that its "concerns" about Modi are valid.

The Congi/Sickulars in India, meanwhile, are doing everything in their power to try and manufacture such an incident.

If the net result is that Modi's Washington visit is canceled, and/or economic investment from the US is blocked because of rapidly souring relations... who are the winners? Congis, ISI and ISI's agents in Berkely Haas. They all win, because a large part of the fast-tracked economic recovery program being laid out by team Modi gets derailed.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 03 Jul 2014 01:37

Jarita wrote:US bans Modi Visa for years but dismisses lawsuits against those responsible for torturing and maiming thousands of children

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1874369/posts

A United States federal judge dismissed a lawsuit July 30 seeking damages from two United Arab Emirates leaders for the use of thousands of children to ride racing camels, saying the case does not belong in U.S. courts.

US did not revoke Modi's visa due to gujarat riots. If I recall correctly, he in fact went to US even in 2003. His visa was revoked in 2005 after UPA came to power. The real reason is not the riots. US revoked his visa primarily because of strict implementation of anti conversion law. That kind of law exists in other indian states as well, but in those states, they could not cook up an excuse, but here GJ riots was sitting there to be grabbed as an excuse.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 03 Jul 2014 01:53

Rudradev wrote:^ These people are just waiting for an incident, which they can then use as a propaganda tool to convince GOTUS that its "concerns" about Modi are valid.

The Congi/Sickulars in India, meanwhile, are doing everything in their power to try and manufacture such an incident.

If the net result is that Modi's Washington visit is canceled, and/or economic investment from the US is blocked because of rapidly souring relations... who are the winners? Congis, ISI and ISI's agents in Berkely Haas. They all win, because a large part of the fast-tracked economic recovery program being laid out by team Modi gets derailed.

I think it would indeed be unwise for Modi to cancel his trip because of remarks made by Obama at a small focus group gathering. Obama is going to roll out the red carpet for Modi and I highly doubt there will be any problems coming from Obama during the trip. Also I would note that India is not among the US top ten trading partners while I am pretty sure the US is the third top trading partner for India. Also the US is one of the few of India's trading partners that provides a positive balance of trade to India. So there is much to gain in making the trip.

Vriksh · Post by **Vriksh** » 03 Jul 2014 03:42

TSJ do you think it was unwise of Mubarak Hussein Obama to reveal his real religion and sympathies to a select focus group like this? I am wondering given the problematic relationship of Americans to Islam whether they will accept being misled by their leaders like this.

The surname Hussein implies he is Shia rather than Sunni. Any thoughts on this and implications on Levant?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jul 2014 03:49

McCain was precisely advocating moving beyond the transactional relationship that is being suggested by TSJ.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 03 Jul 2014 05:59

Vriksh wrote:TSJ do you think it was unwise of Mubarak Hussein Obama to reveal his real religion and sympathies to a select focus group like this? I am wondering given the problematic relationship of Americans to Islam whether they will accept being misled by their leaders like this.

The surname Hussein implies he is Shia rather than Sunni. Any thoughts on this and implications on Levant?

Obama may have pride of heritage but I have reason to believe he is a practicing Christian. I have found over the years that people are complicated....... your mileage may vary.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 03 Jul 2014 06:53

Rudradev wrote:^ These people are just waiting for an incident, which they can then use as a propaganda tool to convince GOTUS that its "concerns" about Modi are valid.

The Congi/Sickulars in India, meanwhile, are doing everything in their power to try and manufacture such an incident.

If the net result is that Modi's Washington visit is canceled, and/or economic investment from the US is blocked because of rapidly souring relations... who are the winners? Congis, ISI and ISI's agents in Berkely Haas. They all win, because a large part of the fast-tracked economic recovery program being laid out by team Modi gets derailed.

I'm not sure this obsession with "American Investment" is such a good thing. I'm just saying at some point, if the levers of control decide to call our bluff and see which aspect we are more committed to: the full spectrum of Hindutva, or the "American Investment", it is important to pick the former.

I don't think Modi should have agreed to meet Obama. I think he should have waited for the next administration. he's selling himself for too cheap a price. at this rate, the "cauldron" you speak of, will be even more emboldened to call the bluff.

and right now both Modi and BJP are essentially bluffing. it is only when the bluff is called and we show our cards (choosing the hard path regardless of the pain) that it is no longer a bluff.

by bending so easily, Modi is emboldening the trouble-makers to call his bluff.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 03 Jul 2014 07:07

Corporations invest for profit not for anything else. "American Investment" in India involves opening manufacturing facilities and starting businesses within India. By pulling levers they can also hurt their bottom lines. All are welcome as Modi himself says, "Red carpet, not red tape". Ultimately Modi is smart enough to know what political limitations are. He knows that if India which is the 12-13th largest trading partner with the US can be in the top 10, then US corporations will have more influence on US policy toward India than the Congis, ISI and ISI's agents in Berkely Haas.

disha · Post by **disha** » 03 Jul 2014 07:24

TSJones wrote:I think it would indeed be unwise for Modi to cancel his trip because of remarks made by Obama at a small focus group gathering. Obama is going to roll out the red carpet for Modi and I highly doubt there will be any problems coming from Obama during the trip. Also I would note that India is not among the US top ten trading partners while I am pretty sure the US is the third top trading partner for India. Also the US is one of the few of India's trading partners that provides a positive balance of trade to India. So there is much to gain in making the trip.

One., US needs India more than India needs US. The whole charade of propping up Bakistan is for US to remain relevant in Asian geo-politics and by proxy relevant in the world affairs. It was only due to WWI US became somewhat relevant and after WWII with Allies win, and when British and France lost its colonies (and through the American neo-colonization), America became relevant.

That is in short a history for Americans.

Two., Barack Obama just exposed his inner bakistaniyat.

If America looses bakistan, the leader of the west can contend itself with a dismembered Britain (Scotland is going to go its own way anyway) and Canada and Mexico and Japan and some extent Australia (who are anyway beholden to the Chinese, Japanese and Indonesians - not necessarily in that order) to press for its foreign policy. And yes, some African nations like Luanda and Gabon and Nigeria.

BRF Dhoti-shiverers, it is good news that NSA has been outed spying on BJP., by that same extent GOI can now spy on both Democrats and Republicans alike!

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 03 Jul 2014 07:26

muraliravi wrote:US did not revoke Modi's visa due to gujarat riots. If I recall correctly, he in fact went to US even in 2003. His visa was revoked in 2005 after UPA came to power. The real reason is not the riots. US revoked his visa primarily because of strict implementation of anti conversion law. That kind of law exists in other indian states as well, but in those states, they could not cook up an excuse, but here GJ riots was sitting there to be grabbed as an excuse.

Modi has never applied for a US visa and never visited the US, IIRC.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 03 Jul 2014 07:27

This one could be slight OT, but it involved the powerful reporting by the mighty, authoritarian NYTimes

. Feel free to remove if wrong dhaga

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/upsho ... .html?_r=0
The Pitfalls of Peace

The continuing slowness of economic growth in high-income economies has prompted soul-searching among economists. They have looked to weak demand, rising inequality, Chinese competition, over-regulation, inadequate infrastructure and an exhaustion of new technological ideas as possible culprits.

An additional explanation of slow growth is now receiving attention, however. It is the persistence and expectation of peace.

The world just hasn’t had that much warfare lately, at least not by historical standards. Some of the recent headlines about Iraq or South Sudan make our world sound like a very bloody place, but today’s casualties pale in light of the tens of millions of people killed in the two world wars in the first half of the 20th century. Even the Vietnam War had many more deaths than any recent war involving an affluent country.....

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 03 Jul 2014 07:34

I think the whole BO comment sounds fishy. First he was preaching to the ultra-leftist Demikat fund-raisers, which means commie-pakis, Al Qaeda, KSA, PLA, Naxals, GreenPeace, Teamsters, the Chicago Mafia, the Israel lobby, Barbara Boxer's backers etc. They are bissed off because BO didn't nuke Assad, did sign the nuke treaty with India without getting all of India to convert, hasn't put the CEOs of all Fortune 490 companies in jail, hasn't boosted trade unions, has made Israel really mad...

And he has just invited the hated NaMo to not just get a visa and attend the Hoteliers Convention, but to the WHOTUS and the COTUS is clamoring for him to address the entire bunch of slackers so they can take another day off from real work.

What did you expect him to say? He basically gave Name, Rank and Serial Number.

My name is Barack Hussein Obama. They call me BO, that O as in 0,

Commandante Zerrow! (with apologies to the real Commandante Zero, the heroic Nicaraguan Sandinista leader who brought Liberation.)

Give him a break, ignore this. The people to whom he was talking are far worse enemies of freedom and democracy, than BO is.

disha · Post by **disha** » 03 Jul 2014 07:35

SanjayC wrote: Modi has never applied for a US visa and never visited the US, IIRC.

SanjayC'ji., MuraliRavi is right. Modi did visit US on a business visa once. But in 2005, US proactively revoked Modi's visa to appease its EJ constituency primarily and the Termite Queen secondarily on the pretext of "Godhra".

Modi after that never applied for US Visa. With McCain giving out a personal invitation and requesting Modi to address US Congress., I think the idiotic-arm of SD in this case beholden to EJ released the news of NSA spying on BJP to embarass McCain. There is a significant lobby within US that wants the relation with India transactional and relation with Bakistan tallel than deeper mountains and deepel than tarrel oshuns.

amit · Post by **amit** » 03 Jul 2014 07:41

I think the KP Nayar report should be taken with a pinch of salt.

It's not that I think K P Nayar is misreporting, however, I would wonder the motives of KP's source. Can we trust that the source is not trying to put a spanner into Modi's visit? I mean BO may have said what he said but the context is everything in such a situation. We don't really know the context or whether BA said anything else as supplement?

This could very well have been a "leak" to provoke NM into an extreme reaction like cancelling the visit or downgrading the importance. We need to remember that there's a quite a constituency in the SD which is aligned with the Berkley Hass position.

I think GoI should go into the visit with open eyes and open mind. The conclusions can be drawn after the visit.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 03 Jul 2014 07:44

disha wrote:
One., US needs India more than India needs US....

Dishaji, I totally agree with you. I also got one more person to agree with you, that makes us three.

http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis ... 26761.html
Facebook’s second largest market is India, says COO Sheryl Sandberg

India, an emerging global economic power, has the potential to become the largest economy in the world, Facebook chief operating officer (COO) Sheryl Sandberg said today.....

How can Pheshbook lady be wrong. They know more about Indians and their family members, your kids age, what school they go to, and where you work; more than Indian guvrmend know about its own citizens.

I waiting to see when CEOs start dancing to native folksy Indic muzic, singing the tune of ShooperPawa.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 03 Jul 2014 07:46

India is a poor country. It cannot afford to spend money on meaningless jet trips for its leaders. Modi should keep that in mind. There are many ways Modi can have face to face dialogue with Obama without burning precious jet fuel. Take advantage of conferencing tools like Skype, Lync, etc. I think even Facebook has video chat capabilities.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 03 Jul 2014 08:13

PM Modi visiting the US at this time will be from a position of strength,as it is the US which is on the backfoot,the DK outrage,Snoopgate,denial of visas for the PM,etc. The US is desperate for more defence goodies,nuclear plant sales,etc. The opportunity is there to drive a real hard "Gujju" bargain (no disrespect here to Gujjus!),where the innate ability to get the best out of a deal exists.After all remember our fav. Gujju,Gandhiji,who booted out the British without spending the price of a single bullet! But what the US needs to be told in firm tone is that an equal relationship will work,not a servile one that Snake-Oil Singh and his fellow Yanqui fans pursued unconditionally.

India has fruit from many trees to pluck from.Old friend Russia and China too,the superheavweights in the BRICS goup,where the PM will attend shortly,have much to offer. "Horses for courses" should be India's strategy,Indian interests first as always.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 03 Jul 2014 08:24

After all remember our fav. Gujju,Gandhiji,who booted out the British without spending the price of a single bullet

Hahaha. Never thought of the bania angle.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 03 Jul 2014 08:46

Why should Modi even visit?

Except for pomp and show and satisfying xyz's ego, is there a tangible reason for using tens of crores of rupees on such a visit?

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 03 Jul 2014 08:53

To understand a potential friend or enemy firsthand!

PS:PM Modi must first read "Manwatching" by Desmond Morris before he visits.He must master the art of deception in body language to confuse his Yanqui hosts. They must never know what is truly in his mind.Remember,"a blink of the eye moves more rapidly than fate".Yoritomo Tashi,famous Japanese philosopher shogun.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 03 Jul 2014 08:58

Philip wrote:To understand a potential friend or enemy firsthand!

really does any one think that Obama will not put on taqqiya but will bare his fangs and double tongue

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 03 Jul 2014 09:01

Honorary paleface,Uncle T aka B.H.O'Bomber,will undoubtedly speak with the proverbial forked tongue.Our PM must listen to what is not spoken ,listen between the words,to understand his host's true intentions.

PS:He will also be the first Indian PM to speak to a Yanqui president in Hindi,requiring a translator! Can't remember if ABV did so,though if I recollect he spoke in Hindi at the UN.Rubbing it in to the Yanqui chief that the era of servile western brown sahibs willing to obey their white master's command has ended.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 03 Jul 2014 09:05

Philip wrote:Honorary paleface,Uncle T aka B.H.O'Bomber,will undoubtedly speak with the proverbial forked tongue.Our PM must listen to what is not spoken ,listen between the words,to understand his host's true intentions.

Basically Obama will lie through his teeth and do taqqiya and for hearing those lies and see practised lying and manufactured body language skills, Modi must spend tens of crores and visit a country which dishonoured India.

Philip wrote: PS:He will also be the first Indian PM to speak to a Yanqui president in Hindi,requiring a translator! Can't remember if ABV did so,though if I recollect he spoke in Hindi at the UN.Rubbing it in to the Yanqui chief that the era of servile western brown sahibs willing to obey their white master's command has ended.

Nothing but another ego massage. Doesnt require to spend even a single rupee on this endeavour.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 03 Jul 2014 09:11

Karan Dixit wrote:India is a poor country. It cannot afford to spend money on meaningless jet trips for its leaders. Modi should keep that in mind. There are many ways Modi can have face to face dialogue with Obama without burning precious jet fuel. Take advantage of conferencing tools like Skype, Lync, etc. I think even Facebook has video chat capabilities.

I agree. The fuel which is spent on this trip can fund a school for many years. They can have the online meeting with Facebook or skype. They can rollout a red carpet on the facebook and have a welcome ceremony on the online screen

Virupaksha wrote:Why should Modi even visit?

Except for pomp and show and satisfying xyz's ego, is there a tangible reason for using tens of crores of rupees on such a visit?

How do you calculate

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 03 Jul 2014 15:28

But isn't he also attending the UN Gen.Assembly? It saves India the costs of a whole new trip.It is vital that a new Indian PM meets the world leaders asap after he takes office. It is an unfortunate fact of life that trips by world leaders costs a lot of money mainly due today to enhanced security.One plus poin about Mr.M.He won't be taking a huge contingent of family members unlike pres.Pratibha,Zail Singh and others,who allegedly walked off with furniture ,etc. from Rashtrapathi Bhavan when they left!

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 03 Jul 2014 16:04

Pentagon notifies Harpoon missile sale to India
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 689219.cms

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 03 Jul 2014 19:50

Two things regarding PM's visit to US -
1. PM Shastri was assassinated in Tashkent while India was in a position of strength. No sudden heart attacks.
2. No pomp and pagentry - State dinner, Bright lights, costumes, Bollywood dance garbage types. Strictly business and strategy.

Avarachan · Post by **Avarachan** » 03 Jul 2014 20:40

Philip wrote:PM Modi visiting the US at this time will be from a position of strength,as it is the US which is on the backfoot,the DK outrage,Snoopgate,denial of visas for the PM,etc. The US is desperate for more defence goodies,nuclear plant sales,etc. The opportunity is there to drive a real hard "Gujju" bargain (no disrespect here to Gujjus!),where the innate ability to get the best out of a deal exists.After all remember our fav. Gujju,Gandhiji,who booted out the British without spending the price of a single bullet! But what the US needs to be told in firm tone is that an equal relationship will work,not a servile one that Snake-Oil Singh and his fellow Yanqui fans pursued unconditionally.

India has fruit from many trees to pluck from.Old friend Russia and China too,the superheavweights in the BRICS goup,where the PM will attend shortly,have much to offer. "Horses for courses" should be India's strategy,Indian interests first as always.

It's very important to qualify this statement. Yes, India won its independence with much less slaughter to the native population than others (China, African nations, Vietnam, etc.). However, without the contribution of Bose and the Azad Hind Fauj (Indian National Army), I don't think the British would have been defeated.

All tactics are needed. Gandhi defeated the British spiritually; Bose, militarily; Patel, politically.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jul 2014 21:09

+108 Avarachan.

Thats the three upayaa.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 03 Jul 2014 21:10

So in addition to (possibly overlapping) the Berkeley Haas Cauldron, there is also this:

http://www.sacw.net/IMG/pdf/US_HinduNat ... rofits.pdf

http://www.sacw.net/ ("South Asia Citizens Web" the behenc**ds call themselves)

The enemy is organizing for action.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 03 Jul 2014 22:59

Sacw web page does not have any info on the organization structure, board of trustees, executive, employees, tax free status, where it is running from, funding sources noting nada. Even the name of the author of that report linked to by RD simply says J. M.

Is it being run from US? They also cleverly put a strikeout on swastika. I think it they chose that symbol over many other Hindu symbols to elicit a particular kind of revulsion.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 03 Jul 2014 23:11

If you take Hollywood as a yardstick Swastika is not associated with Hinduism. It appears on a lot of Buddha depictions.

It is Steven Spielberg who has done the max damage to the swastika and came closest to bringing Hinduism to the forefront by equating it to Nazism through the Indiana Jones series. These movies are prominently viewed by the baby boomer generation.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 03 Jul 2014 23:52

matrimc wrote:Is it being run from US?

Yes, associated with Columbia University. Query from whois -

Registrant Name: Sekhar Ramakrishnan
Registrant Organization: SINGH Foundation
Registrant Street: 50 West 97 St. 15-T
Registrant City: New York
Registrant State/Province: NY
Registrant Postal Code: 10025
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.2128661616
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.2120000000
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]

Bio page

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 04 Jul 2014 00:22

So SACW is the East Coast counterpart of Berkeley Haas ACR in the West.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 04 Jul 2014 00:28

SACW is run by the SINGH foundation then:

http://www.singhfoundation.org/rpsingh.html

SINGH Foundation was started in 1993 and received its tax-exempt status (501 (c) (3)) in early 1994. The foundation is named for Raghuvansh Prasad (RP) Singh. RP was diagnosed with cancer in 1979, got rid of it, and went on to complete his studies and lead a successful career in research, only to have the cancer reappear thirteen years later and claim his life in March 1993; RP was barely 40 when he died. RP was always interested in civil liberties and other progressive causes in India; during his terminal illness, he made sure that money was set aside to support such work after his death. The foundation was started with that seed money. To signify the prime interests of the foundation, we take SINGH to be an acronym, standing for Secular India's National Growth and Harmony.

He must have been quite heavily impacted during the turbulent times of 1975 (emergency) and 1984 (tree falling and all that).

http://www.singhfoundation.org/activities.html#Tours

Tours by Indian Activists, Intellectuals, Artists

A major activity of the foundation is organizing tours of the United States (and sometimes Canada) by individuals doing or addressing grassroots work in India, or working on issues concerning South Asian immigrants in North America:
Anand Patwardhan the documentary filmmaker
Asghar Ali Engineer, religious scholar who has extensively studied communal conflicts
Rakesh Sharma, filmmaker
Shabnam Virmani and Prahlad Tipanya to promote Kabir's poetry, music and values
P. Sainath, journalist and writer

The tours allow the activists to speak to many people - college students, teachers, the general Indian community - about their work. The foundation also raises funds from the hosts and audiences, solely to cover the travel expenses of the visitors; any leftover money is given as grants to groups in India.

So this is one end of the gravy train: Where Indian eggspurts go to suck unkil's teats dry, to GUBO and take orders from unkil on the next moves to make on the chess board called India.

On a side note : That RR guy from Columbia has a distinct MUTU scent emanating from him going by his rather profuse self promotion on his page in Coolo-mbia:
http://biomath.info/

I know there are many eye-eye-tians on this board, hopefully they dont take insult with this guy being an eye-eye-tee alumni

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 04 Jul 2014 06:03

How India’s Economic Rise Could Bolster America’s Economy

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 04 Jul 2014 06:49

Avarachan,quite correct. Gandhiji led the moral fight,Bose the military.It was a combination from all sides including Patel/Nehru and the political aspects,but the fright of being massacred in their beds was the decisive factor.Some Britishers of the time even admitted that Bose scared them more because Indian soldiers refusing to obey orders of British officers was the last straw.The revolt of Singapore scarcely remembered by anyone today is a case in point,the first opportunity for Indian and Japanese soldiers to get to know each other,culminating in the INA -Japanese bond. had the battle of Kohima gone the other way,a very different picture of Indian independence would've emerged.

Getting back to the PM's visit to the US,he is a man in a great hurry.Every day is an opportunity that has to be seized.He knows that after 10 years of UPA misrule the country,especially the youth of whom a large number are unemployed are extremely agitated and expecting a massive thrust to reviving the economy. Unless economic issues are thrashed out with India's chief trading partners,a fillip to the economy will be stunted.The PM wants to size up the attitude of the US and its president who has been very lukewarrn and indifferent to India thus far. He need to know how far he can go in the relationship,as there are other options.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 04 Jul 2014 18:12

Philip ji, good post. It is extremely important fir leaders to look into each other's eyes and get to know first hand what kind of a person the other is instead of relying in second and third hand information.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 04 Jul 2014 18:39

It is not clear what drives US media to indulge in articles that dont reflect reality in India but paint India in bad light. Heights of it was the mention of Gujarat and pogrom against muslims in the same sentence. It is sometimes explained as the urge to show as friend of muslim world to reduce muslim anger against Khans.

Now China has restricted (and banned in some instances) Ramzan fasting for its muslim citizens in Uighur. But no news coverage of it in BeeBeeCee or CeeYenYen! Even Chipanda's taller deeper friend has some news coverage on it. What gives?

http://www.dawn.com/news/1116546/china- ... n-xinjiang