Moscow calls for intl probe into Malaysia MH17 flight crash – Russia’s UN envoy
Published time: July 18, 2014
http://rt.com/news/173972-churkin-malaysia-plane-un/
Malaysia Airline said in a statement on Friday that Ukraine’s traffic controllers ordered the Boeing-777 to lower by 500 meters when the aircraft entered Ukrainian airspace. It added that pilots were supposed to fly at 35,000ft (10,660 meters) throughout Ukrainian airspace, but air traffic control on the ground instructed MH17 to fly at 33,000ft (10,058 meters).
WHY?
While there is no doubt that this was a ghastly tragedy and one's hearts go out to the victims and their families and Malaysia in particular ,for a second catastrophic aviation tragedy to afflict it,there are many v.important Qs that need to be asked.
The first,why were commercial aircraft being forced to fly over the combat zone by the UKR regime?
What were the UKR BUK launchers doing in the same zone of conflict in the east?
The Chocolate soldier has boasted that he controls the entire country including the east,but suddenly discovers that "Russian controlled rebels" are in control of the east from where the missile was fired! The UKR forces retook Slavyansk very recently with the Donetsk forces withdrawing tactically to the Donetsk region.So how can Poroshenko keep on bullsh*tting that the rebels who upto now have not used such a sophisticated SAM like the BUK before.Had they done so,we would've seen them in action a long time ago and even more UKR aircraft shot down,if they had such alleged training from Russia.
The sticking point is that with so many commercial aircraft travelling just minutes after each other,Putin and Modi in particular ,which organisation with an iota of common sense would shoot at a contact without identifying it as a military flight? How could they discriminate between the aircraft whether it was a military one or commercial?
The news that Pres.Putin was just a minute away from the incident does lend much weight to the allegations that it was an assassination attempt that backfired. Putin's flight would've been tracked by US sats right from Brazil.The CIA would've well known his flight path,no big secret,therefore it would've been very easy to pass on the info to the UKR SAM batteries in the east to shoot Putin's aircraft down. Some western defence analysts say that the poorly trained UKR air defence forces might have goofed.
One very important fact.Why did the UKR forces move its BUK SAM batteries o the east when the separatists possess no air force or any form of aircraft or helicopter at all!
The only reason would be to shoot down Russian aircraft if they intervened in support of the Donetsk Republic forces,and the last attack by the UKR regime into Russian territory which killed a Russian local,saw the Russian parliament approve any use of the Russian armed forces into UKR territory.
Yet again,the Donetsk Republic forces have had ample success shooting down UKR aircraft and helos using Manpads and RPGs when aircraft were at very low level or landing.They would not require advanced SAMs to shoot down high alt. aircraft as even UKR ground attack aircraft have flown at low levels as has been seeen from many video clips of the conflict.
With the hugely successful BRICS summit and formation of the BRICS bank,bringing India,China,Russia,in particular together,with the possibility of a future security apparatus too is the US's worst nightmare. The key individual who can make this happen is Vladimir Putin.Therefore the perceived attempt to take him out.If the US establishment could assassinate JFK<they would have no qualms about removing Putin from the scene, permanently.
Ukrainian Buk battery radar was operational when Malaysian plane downed - Moscow
Published time: July 18, 2014
On Thursday, when a Malaysian Airlines plane was apparently shot down over Ukraine, a Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missile battery was operational in the region, the Russian Defense Ministry said, contradicting Kiev’s statements.
The battery was deployed at a site from which it could have fired a missile at the airliner, the ministry said in a statement. It said radiation from the battery’s radar was detected by the Russian military.
“The Russian equipment detected throughout July 17 the activity of a Kupol radar, deployed as part of a Buk-M1 battery near Styla [a village some 30km south of Donetsk],” the ministry said in a statement.
The ministry said the radar could be providing tracking information to another battery deployed in the region, which was at a firing distance from the plane’s flight path.
Earlier Kiev said it could not have fired a missile at the passing civilian plane because it had no Buk missile launchers deployed in the region. At the same time the Ukrainians said the militias had no Buk systems in their hands, according to a statement from the country’s Prosecutor General.
After the Russian ministry came out with the statement, Bogdan Senyk, a spokesman for the Ukrainian Defense Ministry reiterated Kiev’s position, saying that "anti-aircraft missiles have not been deployed during the anti-terrorist operation ... they are all in place."
The Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 carrying almost 300 people on board crashed on Thursday as it was flying over Ukraine’s Donetsk Region. The plane was apparently shot down by a surface-to-air missile, although both Kiev and the local militias fighting against it deny responsibility. A flurry of condemnations and calls for a swift investigation followed the disaster.
PS:Just for the record of US shooting down aircraft by mistake,the US military allegedly shot down TWA 800 of its east coast many years ago,while a top secret exercise to prevent the very incident of the Vincennes shooting down an Iranian Airbus,was going on.The missile without a warhead struck the plane and ignited the fuel.later on the argument was trotted out that somehow the fuel tanks caught fire while seat cushions bore all the hallmarks of missile fuel scorching.As for "blue on blue" mishaps,there have been so many in the recent conflicts,some acknowledged,many suppressed.
Tx.Madhu for posting that pic of a BUK command module.It looks as complex as the command centre of Capt.Kirk's "Starship Enterprise"! As you said,a ragtag bunch of farmers,miners,teachers,local blue collar workers could hardly operate such a sophisticated SAM system.