India-US Strategic News and Discussion

The Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum is a venue to discuss issues pertaining to India's security environment, her strategic outlook on global affairs and as well as the effect of international relations in the Indian Subcontinent. We request members to kindly stay within the mandate of this forum and keep their exchanges of views, on a civilised level, however vehemently any disagreement may be felt. All feedback regarding forum usage may be sent to the moderators using the Feedback Form or by clicking the Report Post Icon in any objectionable post for proper action. Please note that the views expressed by the Members and Moderators on these discussion boards are that of the individuals only and do not reflect the official policy or view of the Bharat-Rakshak.com Website. Copyright Violation is strictly prohibited and may result in revocation of your posting rights - please read the FAQ for full details. Users must also abide by the Forum Guidelines at all times.
krithivas
BRFite
Posts: 784
Joined: 20 Oct 2002 11:31
Location: Offline

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by krithivas »

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 242487.ece
Hindu-Americans are not regarded as warmly as Jewish people, Catholics, Evangelical Christians and Buddhists, according to a recent poll by the Pew Research Centre, which noted that Hindus here were given an average rating of 50 on a scale of 100, and lower still when ranked by Evangelical Christians
This is a great effort by HAF to spread awareness of the problem statement and most of the comments indicate that it is the Hindus that have to start thinking highly of themselves.
Vayutuvan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 13881
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 04:36

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Vayutuvan »

Paul wrote:
Pratyush wrote:President Obomber, is turning into a joke. He will best be remembered for totally destroying the residual credibility the US enjoyed, when he assumed power.

Post retirement, he can write a book called, how to loose allies and alienate nations.
If this benign neglect is beneficial for India's rise, is it not good thing?
But for Indian Americans it is a disaster.
KJo
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9926
Joined: 05 Oct 2010 02:54

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by KJo »

krithivas wrote:http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 242487.ece
Hindu-Americans are not regarded as warmly as Jewish people, Catholics, Evangelical Christians and Buddhists, according to a recent poll by the Pew Research Centre, which noted that Hindus here were given an average rating of 50 on a scale of 100, and lower still when ranked by Evangelical Christians
This is a great effort by HAF to spread awareness of the problem statement and most of the comments indicate that it is the Hindus that have to start thinking highly of themselves.
I think it's a matter of Americans not being familiar with Hindu traditions and feeling that they are "weird". They also have a thing against "idol worship". Americans are familiar with Jews, types of Christians and it is "cool" to say you are a Boooodist because of Hollywood.

Not a big deal.
Nandu
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2195
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 12:31

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Nandu »

I think the difference mainly come from one segment, the fundamentalist evangelicals. This explains both why Jews are rated higher than Christians and why Mormons are rated lower than Hindus.
Rony
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3513
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 23:29

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Rony »

Here is the original report and there have quite interesting details

How Americans Feel About Religious Groups
Jews, Catholics and evangelical Christians are viewed warmly by the American public. When asked to rate each group on a “feeling thermometer” ranging from 0 to 100 – where 0 reflects the coldest, most negative possible rating and 100 the warmest, most positive rating – all three groups receive an average rating of 60 or higher (63 for Jews, 62 for Catholics and 61 for evangelical Christians). And 44% of the public rates all three groups in the warmest part of the scale (67 or higher).

Buddhists, Hindus and Mormons receive neutral ratings on average, ranging from 48 for Mormons to 53 for Buddhists. The public views atheists and Muslims more coldly; atheists receive an average rating of 41, and Muslims an average rating of 40. Fully 41% of the public rates Muslims in the coldest part of the thermometer (33 or below), and 40% rate atheists in the coldest part.

These are some of the key findings from a Pew Research Center survey conducted May 30-June 30, 2014, among 3,217 adults who are part of Pew Research’s new American Trends Panel, a nationally representative panel of randomly selected U.S. adults.1

Groups Tend To Be Rated Most Positively by Their Own Members

Religious groups are rated more positively by their own members than by people from other religious backgrounds. Catholics as a group, for example, receive an average thermometer rating of 80 from Americans who describe themselves as Catholic, compared with 58 from non-Catholics. Similarly, evangelical Christians receive an average rating of 79 from people who describe themselves as born-again or evangelical Christians, compared with an average rating of 52 from non-evangelicals. Among non-evangelicals, roughly as many people give evangelicals a cold rating (27%) as give them a warm rating (30%).

The fact that Catholics and evangelical Christians are large groups and view their fellow adherents warmly helps explain why the two groups are among the most favorably viewed groups in the population. (Catholics account for 20% of the sample in the survey, and self-described evangelical/born-again Christians account for 32% of the sample.) The other groups included in the survey constitute much smaller shares of the overall population. As a result, their ratings are very similar whether they are based on the entire population or only on people who do not belong to the group.

Both Jews and Atheists Rate Evangelicals Negatively, but Evangelicals Rate Jews Highly

Attitudes among religious groups toward each other range from mutual regard to unrequited positive feelings to mutual coldness. Catholics and evangelicals, the two largest Christian groups measured here, generally view each other warmly. White evangelical Protestants give Catholics an average thermometer rating of 63; Catholics rate evangelicals at 57. Evangelicals also hold very positive views of Jews, with white evangelical Protestants giving Jews an average thermometer rating of 69. Only Jews themselves rate Jews more positively. But that warmth is not mutual: despite evangelicals’ warm feelings toward Jews, Jews tend to give evangelicals a much cooler rating (34 on average).

When asked about other non-Christian groups, evangelicals tend to express more negative views. White evangelicals assign Buddhists an average rating of 39, Hindus 38, Muslims 30 and atheists 25. The chilliness between evangelicals and atheists goes both ways. Atheists give evangelical Christians a cold rating of 28 on average.

Atheists give largely positive ratings to several non-Christian religious groups, including Buddhists (who receive an average rating of 69 from atheists), Jews (61) and Hindus (58). Atheists tend to give much cooler ratings to Muslims and the Christian groups asked about in the survey.


Atheists themselves are rated positively by atheists and agnostics, and they receive neutral ratings from Jews and those who describe their religion as “nothing in particular.” Atheists are rated much more negatively by other religious groups.

Christians and Jews Are Rated More Favorably by Older Americans Than by Younger People; Other Non-Christian Faiths Are Rated More Positively by Younger People

Christian groups and Jews receive higher ratings from older Americans (those ages 65 and older) than from younger Americans. By contrast, other non-Christian groups receive their highest ratings from younger Americans. Adults under the age of 30, for instance, give Muslims a neutral rating of 49, on average, whereas older adults give Muslims significantly more negative ratings (42 among those ages 30-49, 36 on average among those 50-64, and 32 among those 65 and older).

These patterns may partly reflect that there are more Christians among older Americans than among younger people. In Pew Research surveys conducted this year, fully 85% of Americans ages 65 and older describe themselves as Christians, compared with just 59% among adults under 30 (32% of whom identify as religious “nones”).

Jews Rated Most Positively by Whites; Evangelicals and Muslims Viewed More Favorably by Blacks than Whites

Jews receive their most positive ratings from whites, who give them an average rating of 66. Jews also are rated favorably by blacks and Hispanics (with each group giving Jews an average rating of 58). Evangelicals also are rated positively by all three groups, with their highest average rating coming from blacks (68). Muslims receive a neutral rating from blacks (49 on average), but they are rated more negatively by whites (38). Hispanics’ ratings of Muslims fall in between (43).

These findings may reflect the racial and ethnic composition of religious groups. Many blacks describe themselves as born-again or evangelical Christians, for instance, and 23% of Muslims in the U.S. are black, according to the Pew Research Center’s 2011 survey of Muslim Americans. Fully 94% of U.S. Jews are white, according to the Pew Research Center’s 2013 survey of U.S. Jews.

Republicans and those who lean toward the Republican Party tend to rate evangelicals very positively (71 on average). They also express warm feelings toward Jews (67 on average) and Catholics (66). The warmth Republicans feel for evangelicals may reflect the fact that many Republicans and Republican leaners are themselves evangelicals. Among those who are not evangelical Christians, evangelicals receive an average rating of 62. Mormons receive a neutral rating from Republicans and Republican leaners (52 on average), while Buddhists receive a rating of 49 and Hindus a rating of 47. Republicans and Republican leaners view atheists and Muslims much more negatively than they view other religious groups.

Democrats and Democratic leaners express warm feelings toward Jews (average rating of 62) and Catholics (61). Buddhists also are rated favorably (57 on average) by Democrats. Evangelicals receive an average rating of 53 from all Democrats and Democratic leaners, but this drops to 45 among those who are not evangelicals themselves. With the exception of Jews, all of the non-Christian groups asked about receive warmer ratings from Democrats and Democratic leaners than they do from Republicans.

Fully 87% of U.S. adults (including 85% of non-Catholics) say they personally know someone who is Catholic. And seven-in-ten people (including 63% of non-evangelicals) say they know someone who is an evangelical Christian. Because Catholics and evangelical Christians are such large groups, it is to be expected that most people would know someone from these groups.

Most Americans also say they know someone who is Jewish (61%) or an atheist (59%), even though these groups are much smaller than Catholics and evangelical Christians; roughly 2% of U.S. adults identify religiously as Jewish, and a little more than 2% identify as atheists. Other small groups are less familiar to most Americans. For example, 44% of Americans say they know someone who is Mormon, and 38% say they know someone who is Muslim. Mormons constitute about 2% of the U.S. adult population, and Muslims roughly 1%. Roughly one-in-four adults or fewer say they know a Buddhist (23%) or Hindu (22%); these groups each account for roughly 1% or less of the overall population.

Knowing someone from a religious group is linked with having relatively more positive views of that group. Those who say they know someone who is Jewish, for example, give Jews an average thermometer rating of 69, compared with a rating of 55 among those who say they do not know anyone who is Jewish. Atheists receive a neutral rating of 50, on average, from people who say they personally know an atheist, but they receive a cold rating of 29 from those who do not know an atheist. Similarly, Muslims get a neutral rating (49 on average) from those who know a Muslim, and a cooler rating (35) from those who do not know a Muslim.
Nandu
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2195
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 12:31

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Nandu »

Congressman mistakes state department official Nisha Biswal commerce department official Arun Kumar to be Indian government representatives.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... foreigners
CRamS
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6865
Joined: 07 Oct 2006 20:54

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by CRamS »

Nandu wrote:Congressman mistakes state department official Nisha Biswal commerce department official Arun Kumar to be Indian government representatives.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... foreigners
Interesting and marks a stark contrast to how something like this would be dealt with in India :-). I wonder if Nisha Biswal will go on CNN/Fox and cry her heart out as a pompous apologist anchor shares her disgust

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-bu ... dtv/331469
KLNMurthy
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4849
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 13:06

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by KLNMurthy »

Nandu wrote:Congressman mistakes state department official Nisha Biswal commerce department official Arun Kumar to be Indian government representatives.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... foreigners
He apologized for his mistake in a straightforward way.
Sagar G
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2594
Joined: 22 Dec 2009 19:31
Location: Ghar

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Sagar G »

Nandu wrote:Congressman mistakes state department official Nisha Biswal commerce department official Arun Kumar to be Indian government representatives.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... foreigners
The average life of a doge :lol:
Vayutuvan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 13881
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 04:36

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Vayutuvan »

I wouldn't mind being the doge of little Italy of Manhattan. :P
UlanBatori
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14045
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by UlanBatori »

Reading what the Russians etc think of the WHOTUS and SDOTUS SpokesDiplomats is quite revealing.
Rony
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3513
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 23:29

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Rony »

Looks like the Curt Clawson dude went to school with Nagarjuna and likes "Telugu Film Nagar" (Ramoji Film city or Annapurna Studios)

US congressman mistakes Obama officials for Indians
He went to school in Nagarjuna, he said, and his favourite foreign films were those shot at Telugu Film Nagar in Hyderabad. And he loved Chennai and Hyderabad.

And that he has invested extensively in India.
UlanBatori
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14045
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by UlanBatori »

Modi visa issue 'a thing of past': Biswal

Great defense in murder cases!
UlanBatori
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14045
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by UlanBatori »

US congressman mistakes Obama officials for Indians
The Hon. Congressbody is well-educated, like the famous University of Mongolia alum. He went into a Singles Bar in downtown Ulan Bator, and spotted this gorgeous chick sitting alone at the bar. He asked the barkeeper to buy her a beer with his compliments so he could start his Operation Pickup.
The b.k. told him, as be closed the cash register and proceeded to get the beer:
Just so u know. She's a Lesbian.

The Alum said:
Oh, thanks! Ah done learned all about dem in Yooniverse-City of Mongolia where I gra-doo-ate-ed.
And he went over and sat by aforesaid Chick.
How are things in Beirut?
What an Honorrubble racist friggin sh1headed Mohron! Starts his deep Opinions with "We" and "You". Reminds me of (never mind).
shiv
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34981
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: Pindliyon ka Gooda

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by shiv »

Rony wrote:Looks like the Curt Clawson dude went to school with Nagarjuna and likes "Telugu Film Nagar" (Ramoji Film city or Annapurna Studios)

US congressman mistakes Obama officials for Indians
He went to school in Nagarjuna, he said, and his favourite foreign films were those shot at Telugu Film Nagar in Hyderabad. And he loved Chennai and Hyderabad.

And that he has invested extensively in India.
If I were this chap this is what I would be doing now
Image
Shanmukh
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3042
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Shanmukh »

Ehh - is the US spin machine in full flow, or is this thing true? Article claims that Obama didn't know of Modi's US ban.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/exclu ... 140725.htm
Gus
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8220
Joined: 07 May 2005 02:30

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Gus »

nageshks wrote:Ehh - is the US spin machine in full flow, or is this thing true? Article claims that Obama didn't know of Modi's US ban.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/exclu ... 140725.htm
well what about the "my name is barack husein obama" crap from k.p.nayar.
Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21537
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Philip »

The bugging of Nitin Gadkari's bedroom has allegedly been laid at the feet of the "foreign hand" by Sub Swamy.Quoting from his sources,he says that is began in Oct last yr. during the UPA regime and that the BJP had been specifically targeted by the NSA/US,as it was anti-BJP.

Snowden also accuses the NSA of partnering the Saudi regime (NSA partnering with Saudi regime ‒ Snowden leak
Published time: July 26, 2014 ...http://rt.com/usa/175712-snowden-nsa-saudi-partnership/).In the revelations last yr.maps were shown with the diff. operational code words fro diff. NSA intel ops worldwide.The craven quislings of the Congress/UPA didn't even utter a squeak of protest against snooping against India,saying that it was par for the course.Independent nations with self-respect like Brazil,Germany,etc, vehemently protested,against the US's illegal spying.

Meanwhile Uncle Sam,carrying his big stick but not speaking softly,"warns" about INdia staying firm on food security concerns at WTO negotiations.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Busi ... 999542.cms
US warns Indian threat will 'flip the lights' off at WTO
US has expressed unhappiness at Indian ultimatum that threatens WTO deal.
Reuters | Jul 25, 2014,
GENEVA: An Indian-led ultimatum to unravel a World Trade Organization deal struck in Bali last December would end global trade reform efforts, US ambassador Michael Punke warned in a speech to the Geneva-based body on Friday.

"Today, we are extremely discouraged that a small handful of members in this organization are ready to walk away from their commitments at Bali, to kill the Bali agreement, to kill the power of that good faith and goodwill we all shared, to flip the lights in this building back to dark," Punke said.

India blocks WTO deal


At a meeting in Geneva, diplomats from the 160 WTO member countries were supposed to rubber stamp a deal on "trade facilitation" that was agreed at talks in Bali last December. Some estimates say it could add $1 trillion to the world economy and create 21 million jobs.

But India said it would veto the agreement until it gets what it wants in a separate area linked to its system of subsidizing and stockpiling crops.

Several countries issued statements saying that a failure to agree to the deal would be a massive blow to the WTO, which is trying to emerge from a decade of failed negotiations on further liberalizing global trade.

WTO director general Roberto Azevedo said talks were ongoing to try to resolve the problem before a deadline of July 31.
"We are informally talking, yes," he told Reuters. When asked what would happen if there were no deal by July 31, he said: "That's part of the conversation."

A group of 25 countries including Australia, Canada, Colombia, Mexico, Norway, Switzerland and Thailand said they were "dismayed" at the failure to agree at Thursday's meeting.

They warned that failing to seal the trade facilitation deal would unravel the whole package of trade agreements done in Bali, effectively destroying the chance of further global trade reform, something that India has long demanded.

"Contradictory stance"

"A decision to step away would be in no one's interest. It would seriously undermine the ability of the WTO to deliver for the future," the group said in a statement.

The European Union gave a similar warning, saying: "Without adoption of the Trade Facilitation Protocol by July 31 a great opportunity to mobilize trade as an instrument for growth and development would be lost, and the credibility of the WTO, which has during the financial crisis proven its value as a firewall against protectionism, would be further damaged."

Japan also said it strongly urged those members who take a "contradictory stance" to try to achieve the common objective.

Several trade diplomats said they were mystified by India's stance, since it has not made any specific demands, making it impossible for the rest of the WTO to resolve the problem.

Some think India might want to bring forward the 2017 target date for agreeing permanent rules on food stockpiling, or it might try to postpone the July 31 deadline for adopting trade facilitation, linking it to wider negotiations that the WTO plans to line up by the end of this year.

But the EU said it would not renegotiate existing timelines.

Many diplomats thought India would be reckless to maintain its veto.
"It will be suicidal, absolutely. And that's not a threat, that's just a statement of fact," said one Western diplomat.


"They say we're going to get what we want or we'll blow everything else up, but if they do that they won't even get what they want."

Many trade experts think that if global trade negotiations lose momentum again, many WTO members, including the European Union and the United States, will effectively give up and focus all their efforts on more ambitious trade reforms that they are already negotiating bilaterally and in small groups.

Those include regional deals such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the EU-US Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, as well as sectoral negotiations in areas such as services, information technology and environmental goods.
So a "few countries",that includes the world's second largest nation on the planet with 1.2B population,the world's largest democracy.,where earlier this year the largest and greatest peaceful election ever held in global history matters for nothing?
Rudradev
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4325
Joined: 06 Apr 2003 12:31

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Rudradev »

UlanBatori wrote:Modi visa issue 'a thing of past': Biswal

Great defense in murder cases!

Didnt al Quolin Bin Powell say that about the Photochor Nuke Mart?
TSJones
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3022
Joined: 14 Oct 1999 11:31

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by TSJones »

Philip wrote:The bugging of Nitin Gadkari's bedroom has allegedly been laid at the feet of the "foreign hand" by Sub Swamy.Quoting from his sources,he says that is began in Oct last yr. during the UPA regime and that the BJP had been specifically targeted by the NSA/US,as it was anti-BJP.

Snowden also accuses the NSA of partnering the Saudi regime (NSA partnering with Saudi regime ‒ Snowden leak
Published time: July 26, 2014 ...http://rt.com/usa/175712-snowden-nsa-saudi-partnership/).In the revelations last yr.maps were shown with the diff. operational code words fro diff. NSA intel ops worldwide.The craven quislings of the Congress/UPA didn't even utter a squeak of protest against snooping against India,saying that it was par for the course.Independent nations with self-respect like Brazil,Germany,etc, vehemently protested,against the US's illegal spying.

Meanwhile Uncle Sam,carrying his big stick but not speaking softly,"warns" about INdia staying firm on food security concerns at WTO negotiations.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Busi ... 999542.cms
US warns Indian threat will 'flip the lights' off at WTO
US has expressed unhappiness at Indian ultimatum that threatens WTO deal.
Reuters | Jul 25, 2014,
GENEVA: An Indian-led ultimatum to unravel a World Trade Organization deal struck in Bali last December would end global trade reform efforts, US ambassador Michael Punke warned in a speech to the Geneva-based body on Friday.

"Today, we are extremely discouraged that a small handful of members in this organization are ready to walk away from their commitments at Bali, to kill the Bali agreement, to kill the power of that good faith and goodwill we all shared, to flip the lights in this building back to dark," Punke said.

India blocks WTO deal


At a meeting in Geneva, diplomats from the 160 WTO member countries were supposed to rubber stamp a deal on "trade facilitation" that was agreed at talks in Bali last December. Some estimates say it could add $1 trillion to the world economy and create 21 million jobs.

But India said it would veto the agreement until it gets what it wants in a separate area linked to its system of subsidizing and stockpiling crops.

Several countries issued statements saying that a failure to agree to the deal would be a massive blow to the WTO, which is trying to emerge from a decade of failed negotiations on further liberalizing global trade.

WTO director general Roberto Azevedo said talks were ongoing to try to resolve the problem before a deadline of July 31.
"We are informally talking, yes," he told Reuters. When asked what would happen if there were no deal by July 31, he said: "That's part of the conversation."

A group of 25 countries including Australia, Canada, Colombia, Mexico, Norway, Switzerland and Thailand said they were "dismayed" at the failure to agree at Thursday's meeting.

They warned that failing to seal the trade facilitation deal would unravel the whole package of trade agreements done in Bali, effectively destroying the chance of further global trade reform, something that India has long demanded.

"Contradictory stance"

"A decision to step away would be in no one's interest. It would seriously undermine the ability of the WTO to deliver for the future," the group said in a statement.

The European Union gave a similar warning, saying: "Without adoption of the Trade Facilitation Protocol by July 31 a great opportunity to mobilize trade as an instrument for growth and development would be lost, and the credibility of the WTO, which has during the financial crisis proven its value as a firewall against protectionism, would be further damaged."

Japan also said it strongly urged those members who take a "contradictory stance" to try to achieve the common objective.

Several trade diplomats said they were mystified by India's stance, since it has not made any specific demands, making it impossible for the rest of the WTO to resolve the problem.

Some think India might want to bring forward the 2017 target date for agreeing permanent rules on food stockpiling, or it might try to postpone the July 31 deadline for adopting trade facilitation, linking it to wider negotiations that the WTO plans to line up by the end of this year.

But the EU said it would not renegotiate existing timelines.

Many diplomats thought India would be reckless to maintain its veto.
"It will be suicidal, absolutely. And that's not a threat, that's just a statement of fact," said one Western diplomat.


"They say we're going to get what we want or we'll blow everything else up, but if they do that they won't even get what they want."

Many trade experts think that if global trade negotiations lose momentum again, many WTO members, including the European Union and the United States, will effectively give up and focus all their efforts on more ambitious trade reforms that they are already negotiating bilaterally and in small groups.

Those include regional deals such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the EU-US Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, as well as sectoral negotiations in areas such as services, information technology and environmental goods.
So a "few countries",that includes the world's second largest nation on the planet with 1.2B population,the world's largest democracy.,where earlier this year the largest and greatest peaceful election ever held in global history matters for nothing?
Don't worry India will work a deal with the BRICs. Everything is kewel.
member_22733
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3786
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by member_22733 »

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you....... and you know the rest.

Keep laughing.
svinayak
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14222
Joined: 09 Feb 1999 12:31

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by svinayak »

U.S. trade with India in goods and services was $96.7 billion in 2013, whereas with China the same measure was $616.5 billion
Nandu
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2195
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 12:31

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Nandu »

Gus wrote:
well what about the "my name is barack husein obama" crap from k.p.nayar.
That is all it is. Crap from k.p.nayar.
Hari Seldon
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9374
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 12:47
Location: University of Trantor

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Hari Seldon »

svinayak wrote:U.S. trade with India in goods and services was $96.7 billion in 2013, whereas with China the same measure was $616.5 billion
Clearly, we are small fry (and perhaps deservedly so).

I hope unkil leaves us small fry alone. Why have the world's third largest US diplomatic mission stationed in small fry? Such a large diplomutt base enables everything from snooping to FUD to unrest-sowing. Would be nice if we can cut their numbers down to reciprocal levels or something.

Also, why carp and crap so much at WTO level meets coz of small fry opinions? Should deal with us small fry with the same magnanimity unkil has preached we reserve for Bakistan. No?
nvishal
BRFite
Posts: 992
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:03

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by nvishal »

With kerry visiting india, paid news articles have over-flooded the cyber space and print news arena. Please don't use BR as an aggregation site for those links.
vishvak
BR Mainsite Crew
Posts: 5836
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 21:19

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by vishvak »

nvishal wrote:With kerry visiting india, paid news articles have over-flooded the cyber space and print news arena. Please don't use BR as an aggregation site for those links.
:rotfl: when kerry comes to India, paid news points fingers at Modi for 'not controlling riots' while mobs of muslims riot in Saharanpur! It is same media that underplayed mandate to NaMo in the biggest democracy!

What happens when US representative visits! Hopefully the Modi govt. has enough questions for US representative above meddling in elections (finance, propaganda, etc) as also about supporting pakilands, etc.
A_Gupta
BRF Oldie
Posts: 13670
Joined: 23 Oct 2001 11:31
Contact:

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by A_Gupta »

India, US, and the Bali Trade Agreement - an American P.O.V.:
http://blogs.cfr.org/asia/2014/07/29/in ... agreement/
svinayak
BRF Oldie
Posts: 14222
Joined: 09 Feb 1999 12:31

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by svinayak »

India unbound
India cannot be contained demographically,
India cannot be contained culturally,
India cannot be contained militarily,
India cannot be contained politically,

They want t contain India in the global trade system
RoyG
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5619
Joined: 10 Aug 2009 05:10

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by RoyG »

The US can and will cause a lot of trouble for us. We have an Islamist ticking time bomb being carried within us. This is our soft underbelly. They know this and can do to us what they did to Syria.
RoyG
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5619
Joined: 10 Aug 2009 05:10

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by RoyG »

Kerry touching down today. Nothing of substance. Obama is on his way out and has already f*cked up the relationship beyond repair. With the liability bill, Indo-US nuclear trade is finished, GMO will only progress at a snails pace, more transport aircraft?, etc.

The big ticket item is going to be the WTO deal, sino-Russian-Indian initiative to setup an alternative trade/financial network, Afghanistan (not much to discuss with the US pulling it's d*ck out). We've already checkmated with the bugging incident. Get off our backs Obomba! You are growing increasingly useless!
Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21537
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Philip »

WTO is the name of the game right now.India simply cannot abandon the fate of hundreds of millions of poor rural folk to the whims and fancies of firang food producers.The Swadeshi Jagran Manch has today successfully forced the GOI to retreat from its allowance of GM crops to be experimented in India.There was universal opposition for this from the Indian farmers.GM crops worldwide are one of the most controversial of subjects,with western nations even wanting any food item that contains GM crops to be marked with warnings.Indian interests must come first.
Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21234
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Prem »

Kerr Kya Kehat hai
The new Indian government's plan, 'Sabka Saath, Sabka Vikas', together with all, development for all that's a concept, a vision that we want to support. We believe it's a great vision, and our private sector is eager to be a catalyst in India's economic revitalisation," Kerry said in his address to a Washington audience at an event held by the Center for American Progress, a top US think tank.We should be expanding our educational ties across the board, increasing opportunities for young people in both of our nations. I know Prime Minister Modi drew from that energy of India's youth during his campaign. He repeatedly pointed out that while India's one of the world's oldest civilisations, it has the world's youngest population."And that means strengthening the exchange in technical education, in vocational programs for high-skilled trades, and especially in areas where we can build on the entrepreneurial and innovative spirit of both of our nations," he said, adding that everyone knows about the extraordinary work ethic that people in India have and the capacity to be able to do this and seize this opportunity," Kerry said.
"Innovation and entrepreneurship are in both of our DNA, and they not only make us natural partners; they give us natural advantages in a world that demands adaptability and resilience. The US and India cannot afford to just sort of sit back and rest on these currently existing advantages. We have to build on them and we have to build on them by investing more in one another," he said.The greater transparency and accountability that Prime Minister Modi put in place during his time as chief minister tells us he has already provided a model of how raising standards can actually increase economic growth," Kerry said.
The US and India should continue to reach for the ambitious target that Vice President (Joe) Biden laid out last summer in India, to push from USD 100 billion to USD 500 billion a year in trade."And whatever impediments we may face along the way, we need to always be mindful of the opportunities and the bigger picture around this.
RoyG
BRF Oldie
Posts: 5619
Joined: 10 Aug 2009 05:10

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by RoyG »

Blah Blah, Modi's economic policy is Swadeshi built around strong exports and domestic consumption. For production of goods at home and especially in defense you need transfer of technology. The US will not part with it and has put barriers in place so that we can't get it. What could they possibly give us that we can get from someone else like Japan? Go home Kerry.
Singha
BRF Oldie
Posts: 66589
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 19:42
Location: the grasshopper lies heavy

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Singha »

I guess he will get a cool reception from higher ups today. this man and hillaryC were the most pro-TSP elements in DC admin. I think before he became Secy of State was a fixer and track2 consul sent to deal with Pindi on multiple occasions taking over from zinni and armitrage.
Hari Seldon
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9374
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 12:47
Location: University of Trantor

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Hari Seldon »

Kerry should be referred to as Nishan-e-haider winner Mr John Kerry only, by Indian babudom.
Vikas
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6828
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 02:40
Location: Where DST doesn't bother me
Contact:

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Vikas »

Will NaMo meet JFK ? We have been complaining that every low level officer from foggy bottoms would get access to MMS in the past. Lets see how it plays out this time.
JFK should spend time with Sush Aunty only as per protocol. Chai - Biscuit, Eid Milaap and then drop him at the Airport.
nandakumar
BRFite
Posts: 1678
Joined: 10 May 2010 13:37

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by nandakumar »

VikasRaina wrote:Will NaMo meet JFK ? We have been complaining that every low level officer from foggy bottoms would get access to MMS in the past. Lets see how it plays out this time.
JFK should spend time with Sush Aunty only as per protocol. Chai - Biscuit, Eid Milaap and then drop him at the Airport.
The Deputy Secretary of State William Burns did have an audience with Modi when he was here in India. So it is a fair guess that Modi will meet Kerry. Nisha Biswal was not so lucky as she is one notch lower in the pecking order.
Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21537
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by Philip »

Well JoKerry IS the US Sec, of State.It is often the case for a PM or head of state to meet another FM out of courtesy as usually the visiting FM has a message from his head of state or PM to deliver in private. Since our PM is to visit the US,JoKerry will probably want to discuss his visit personally and Mr.Modi's priorities,people he'd specifically like to meet,the agenda of discussions,etc. Follow up work will be done by babudom.
chetak
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34986
Joined: 16 May 2008 12:00

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Post by chetak »

nandakumar wrote:
VikasRaina wrote:Will NaMo meet JFK ? We have been complaining that every low level officer from foggy bottoms would get access to MMS in the past. Lets see how it plays out this time.
JFK should spend time with Sush Aunty only as per protocol. Chai - Biscuit, Eid Milaap and then drop him at the Airport.
The Deputy Secretary of State William Burns did have an audience with Modi when he was here in India. So it is a fair guess that Modi will meet Kerry. Nisha Biswal was not so lucky as she is one notch lower in the pecking order.
Good show.

Quite a change from even watchmen and security guards from the US meeting the high and mighty including the termite queen and PM on their every visit..

The Modi govt needs to give credence and priority to only those of relevance and equal status so that the white skin and first world syndrome does not prevail
Post Reply