Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul 2014

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CRamS wrote:However, if a white chic like Fair didi says the same, the elite in India will give her a hearing and also repeat the same. To this end, Fair didi's book is welcome.
Agreed, white privilege is big in India. White opinion trumps the utterances of the DIE WKKs anyday. In that narrow utilitarian prism, unFair didi has done really well. Since an Indian researcher who says the same things (that we have in BR for a long long time), would immediately be branded as Islamophobes and Hindu supremacists by the self-hating WKK racists.

However, the lazy Indian intellectual class will take her opinions in without question or testing them out in any form and this is a danger that I see in the future if unFair does a uturn. Which is why we need to cultivate a strong strategic think-tank that works on fact based theories and proposes solutions from an Indian standpoint. Hopefully I live to see a day when an Indian researcher that says the same thing is given respect and his or her ideas tested and put to use instead of waiting for the gora admi to come and save us.
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CRamS wrote:On Fair didi, I am with DoCJi and others. True, us on BR need not go overboard with her changed stance now in contrast to er earlier TSP predilections, her attraction to TFTA Pakijabi manhood etc. As someone pointed out, her changed stance might also be because she wants a kushy retirement package and tenure etc. But I am not sure how this latter objective is achieved through her non conventional writings about TSP which goes against the grain of what the big boys think in DC: India TSP equal equal, use TSP nuke scare t make both India & TSP nuke nude, pigLeTs == "Hindu extremists" etc. As I speculated, a little bit of dissent from "useful idiots" like her suits the big boys well.

But from India's perspective, Fair didi's straight talk on TSP serves a huge purpose. If us on BR, or for that matter any SDRE were to say even the fraction of what Fair is saying about TSP, they will either be ignored or branded a "Hindu extremist". In fact, Arnab, Bakara, Tuedesai, Nidhi etc will host shows with idiots like Shoba De on how pointing out TSP's rabid Islamist ideology is communalism and anti-Muslim. Such is the rot among intellectually, morally bankrupt Indian elite cowards.

However, if a white chic like Fair didi says the same, the elite in India will give her a hearing and also repeat the same. To this end, Fair didi's book is welcome.
This disease is on its way out. Fair is going to begin studying India soon after her Paki project is over. Modi model and the mauryan like state that is being crafted.
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Found this on teetar:
https://twitter.com/akchishti/status/494585303349219330
@akchishti

75 per cent of irregular immigrants in Pakistan are living in #Karachi source: ational Alien Registration Authority (Nara)
https://twitter.com/akchishti/status/494579446083379200
@akchishti 30m

For the first time I was shocked: #Karachi resembled not #Karachi but some agency of FATA with that many Pashtuns on road.
So people in FATA need some sort of documentation to move to Punjab/Sindh? This is a "liberal" shia baki, and they have some really deep issues.
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Paki Shias as still Pakis. Sunnis are like Maududi, Shia's are like Jinnah. Both of them display pakiness at the end of the day
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Having been gently "encouraged" by ramana to introduce "literary synopses" as evidence of remaining intellect, I am introducing some background, in the long process of reviewing said masterpiece.

1. Doc's e-book
2. Havent seen this debated in a while:

The Quranic Concept of War
JOSEPHC.MYERS
Myers wrote: The universalism of Islam, in its all embracing creed, is imposed on the believers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political, if not strictly military....The Jihad,accordingly, may be stated as a doctrine of a permanent state of war, not continuous fighting.” —Majid Khadduri
to be continued, apologies for not responding in time, will collectively respond upon completion of synopsis.
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A Myra MacDonald article that, for once, I could agreeably read because it does not overdo the usual equal-equal:

INDIA-PAKISTAN THROUGH THE ISRAEL-PALESTINE MIRROR

In the comments below the article, a couple of Pakis have, as to be expected, gotten their shalwars into a tight twist.
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She writes in detail about the way the British manned Indian units which consisted of 70% of people from the "martial races". There were virtually no Bengalis or South Indians
But this is totally lie by Mrs. Fair. The first army that British created was Bengal presidency, then Madras presidency. These armies helped British consolidate their rule in India.

It was only after 1857 revolution than people from Punjab, Nepal, Garhwal, Dogras, etc were declared to be "Martial Races" in support of British.

British had habit of using people (through these epithets) and then cutting them off. That's exactly what was called "Divide and Rule" policy! Which probably has been continued by the US State Department.

We should look at Ms Fair through the prism of "Great Game in Indian subcontinent" policy of Kerry, Obama and his ilks!! She indeed is part of "Track seeia" to mold the Indian opinion vis-à-vis nPakistan.

Anybody having anything whatsoever to do with Georgetown university is a suspect in my opinion!
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continued...

The competitors, each also putting out their magnum opus in 2014:
3. Carlotta Gall
kirkus wrote: "The author offers a compelling account of the attack on bin Laden's compound, the repercussions of which are still being felt. Gall admirably never loses sight of the human element in this tragedy." --Kirkus
4. The good haqqani -- reference to book omitted for obvious reasons.
5. Ahmad Rashid -- reference to book omitted to for obvious reasons.

These are referred to ONLY because they are as recent as "the prose" and direct competitors for eyeballs mk. 1. Anand Gopal may come handy some place, to be included if needed, in the synopsis.
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CRamS wrote:But I am not sure how this latter objective is achieved through her non conventional writings about TSP which goes against the grain of what the big boys think in DC: India TSP equal equal, use TSP nuke scare t make both India & TSP nuke nude, pigLeTs == "Hindu extremists" etc. As I speculated, a little bit of dissent from "useful idiots" like her suits the big boys well.
CRS, her project is only half way through. The next half is to write an equally devastating book about India. Everything will be equal, equal after that. George Bush Jr suspended the zero-sum game for a brief while but it has come back in all its glory a long time back.
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^^ Exactly. So if we promote her book, we should also supply a disclaimer that while the data on the book and conclusions are largely valid, that does not automatically validate anything else that the author might write in the future. Since Indian elites are fickle minded and hollow, they will swallow whatever she writes once she 'establishes' herself in India.
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LokeshC wrote:Since Indian elites are fickle minded and hollow, they will swallow whatever she writes once she 'establishes' herself in India.
Yes. Our elite might make her the supreme authority on India-Pakistan issues like how they have promoted Wendy Doniger as an authority on Hinduism.
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I think the argument about what might happen if Christine Fair writes a less than complimentary book about India is hypothetical and unnecessary. We all know that people can write one good book and rubbish after that. But if she writes the truth and we don't like what she writes, it simply will not do for us to be Paki and deny it. And if she writes rubbish and it gets promoted because of her reputation we will have to fight to set that right. After all this sort of thing is a continuing process. We must take what suits us and helps us and fight what is wrong.

Enjoy the moment. Savor the book now. And please stop this thrashing about regarding what Fair used to be and what she might be tomorrow. It is wrong to make Indian "elites" the "other" because most of us are part of the elite. If we can be part of the elite and think differently, I am sure we can carry the process forward. It is ignorance to say "They are Indian elite. We are not. We are some imaginary aam junta"
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Sure, I am enjoying the current show but I'll always be suspicious of her.
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Paul wrote:Something interesting I found in a PAk RAPE's geneaology.

Zafar Hilaly, who often comes in Indian Talk shows is the nephew of Agha Shahi the foreign secretary of Pakistan in the 80s, who originally was from Bangalore and in turn was related to Sir Mirza Ismail, the erstwhile diwan of the State of Mysore.

He is Shia by background.
During a particularly nasty exchange when Hilay denied that Pakistan ever supported any terror group, GP with his trademark smirk said to Hilaly "First of all my sympathies to Mr Hilaly for so many of his brethren getting killed by the same Pakistani extremist groups". The expression in Hilaly's face was priceless.
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So apparently Pakis now are teaching their schoolkids that India would have obtained freedom from the british earlier if the crafty hindu Banias hadnt collaborated with the british and backstabbed the brave TFTAs resisting the british rule
The anti-colonialism fuelling support for Palestinians was viewed through a distinctly Muslim historical narrative , which implied that undivided India might have been freed from British rule far sooner had its Muslim inhabitants not been let down by the Hindus...Thus, for example, in one typical textbook for “Pakistan Studies” — a compulsory course in the country’s history and ideology — Hindus under the British Raj were players of a double game who let down the Muslims “on account of their primordial psyche.”
And apparently Pakis made #IfHitlerWasAlive trend on twitter in Pakistan. Read it here: http://warontherocks.com/2014/07/india- ... ne-mirror/
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jrjraoji,

Your link to that article seems broken. I never read the loathsome Myra McDonald, but I look forward to that article because it was recommended by none other than you.
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Anujan wrote:
Paul wrote:Something interesting I found in a PAk RAPE's geneaology.

Zafar Hilaly, who often comes in Indian Talk shows is the nephew of Agha Shahi the foreign secretary of Pakistan in the 80s, who originally was from Bangalore and in turn was related to Sir Mirza Ismail, the erstwhile diwan of the State of Mysore.

He is Shia by background.
During a particularly nasty exchange when Hilay denied that Pakistan ever supported any terror group, GP with his trademark smirk said to Hilaly "First of all my sympathies to Mr Hilaly for so many of his brethren getting killed by the same Pakistani extremist groups". The expression in Hilaly's face was priceless.
And, Hilaly & his elder brother studied in University of Madras.
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EU bans PIA flights carrying cargo
KARACHI: The European Union (EU) has stopped Pakistan International Airlines from bringing cargo to the member states owing to security concerns, it is learnt here reliably.

According to the highly placed sources, the ban will also leave the national flag carrier unable to carry the cargo for the United States.

Though there is no restriction on PIA from the US authorities, the airline is not allowed to fly directly from Pakistan to the US and all Pakistan International Airlines flights going to the US have to land at European airports first for checking before restarting their journey for the US. :rotfl:

Saudi Arabia warns PIA of halting flights over unpaid dues :((

Responding to Dawn queries, PIA spokesperson Mashhood Tajwar said the ban was imposed owing to security concerns by the United Kingdom only, but as the UK is a member of the European Union all the EU countries would observe this ban and would not allow the PIA aircraft to carry cargo there. :mrgreen:

He said a communication had been received to this effect from the UK’s Transpiration Department :lol: on Monday.
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Terror connection

Pakistan plays a role in the story of ISIS founder Abu Musaab al Zarqawi.
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Funnily enough Myra Macdonald appears to have read and internalized much of what Shrimati Fair has written in her latest book. The "structure" of Macdonald's descriptions of the Paki army are very similar to what Fair has written and not at all like those of earlier western writers about Pakistan.
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... link to that article seems broken. I never read the loathsome Myra McDonald, but I look forward to that article because it was recommended by none other than you.
Not sure what was wrong a bit earlier (when I was offline), but the link seems to be working now, at least from the US.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Terror connection

Pakistan plays a role in the story of ISIS founder Abu Musaab al Zarqawi.
Interesting.

It has long been obvious to us that Pakistan has everything to gain by trying to bring the entire weight of militant Islamism into an anti-India posture. Since 9-11 we have seen how Al Qaeda (and now ISIS) propaganda includes mention of India.

But the best part is something that reminds me of ramana's "fractal recursivity". - "patterns visible on a smaller scale are repeated on a higher, larger, scale'

Pakistani nurturing of anti-India terrorists gradually morphed into an alliance between anti-India and anti-west terrorists. But this was initially restricted to AfPak. Now we have gone to a higher international plane. Pakistan's attempt to recruit international Islamist support against India has created an alliance between Pakistan and forces in Palestine and Syria - who are even more capable and anti-West than Paki groups like LeT. And they are closer to the west - being situated on the borders of Europe.

So Pakistan has succeeded in getting closer to the Islamic world and its wars, while trying to garner support for Pakistan's wars from the west Asian ummah.

The next step should be to stoke Islamism in China so China is pulled in as well. Wheeeee... :D
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Terror connection

Pakistan plays a role in the story of ISIS founder Abu Musaab al Zarqawi.
Hats off to Khaled Ahmed, as usual.
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Rather surprised to hear that my fellow citizens like TV programmes from the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan :-o . Surprised as a straw poll conducted by me among the demographic of native Hindi speakers showed a complete lack of interest for Pakistani TV fare with only one individual admitting to have watched the channel out of curiosity and found it to be mediocre and hence has stopped.

It looks to me that the spate of stories about the love of Indian’s for Pakistani TV shows culminating with the two below has more to do with Zee TV planting stories to advertise the channel :wink: . Or perhaps I picked the wrong demographic with pre-partition Punjabi nostalgia coupled with interest of India’s Muslim population fuelling this liking:?: :

Why do Indians like Pakistani soap operas so much? An Indian television channel is airing syndicated content from Pakistan for the first time. Several of the shows have become surprise hits

Zindagi channel treats Indian viewers to the best Pakistani dramas on offer
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arun wrote:Rather surprised to hear that my fellow citizens like TV programmes from the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan :-o . Surprised as a straw poll conducted by me among the demographic of native Hindi speakers showed a complete lack of interest for Pakistani TV fare with only one individual admitting to have watched the channel out of curiosity and found it to be mediocre and hence has stopped.

It looks to me that the spate of stories about the love of Indian’s for Pakistani TV shows culminating with the two below has more to do with Zee TV planting stories to advertise the channel :wink: . Or perhaps I picked the wrong demographic with pre-partition Punjabi nostalgia coupled with interest of India’s Muslim population fuelling this liking:?: :

Why do Indians like Pakistani soap operas so much? An Indian television channel is airing syndicated content from Pakistan for the first time. Several of the shows have become surprise hits

Zindagi channel treats Indian viewers to the best Pakistani dramas on offer
The idea that Indians are running after Paki TV is bullshit. In fact the actual channels available to Indians as packages or individually via satellite dish or cable are freely visible online and you will be hard put to actually find a Paki channel there. There are scores of Indian regional channels, sports channels, American, British, French, German and other oddball channels in ones and twos. maybe a Paki serial is actually shown on some channel - can't tell for sure - but you would have a hard time finding it. If a channel wants to run a Paki program and still wants to make money - they will have to spend money on advertising before they can dream of earning ad revenue off that. But then again - an Indian channel running Paki programs may see some demand in the Gulf and in other weshtren phoren lands.
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^^ SHQ is nationalist like any of us but when it comes to entertainment and soaps she forgets about haram. Zindagi was super favourite. I tolerated for some time finally gave 30 mins lecture and reminded her all sacrifices so much that SHQ cried and hold your breath apologised (tell you dont get to hear that). Still I have child locked that @#$@ channel. A hard core nationalist SHQ can do this...imagine.
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I had seen Javed Jaffery praising it on teetar when it started. Guessing from his tweets looks like jihadi minded IM might be interested in watching it. My guess is it is catering to that population the most.
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shiv wrote:The next step should be to stoke Islamism in China so China is pulled in as well. Wheeeee... :D
I was wondering why Uighur biladels in China are attacking with knives. TFTA Umma birathers next door should be able to supply them truck loads of AK I would think. Only thing stopping them is financial jizzya from China even though China don't see it like that at the moment. Like all things in the past this will also blow up in their face and then we will know the paki connection to Uighur probolem.
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jrjrao wrote: Not sure what was wrong a bit earlier (when I was offline), but the link seems to be working now, at least from the US.
Thanks. I did get it to read it over coffee this morning. Interesting read, and refreshing change from her usual equal equal crap.

But that said, while both this piece by her, and Fair's recent writing are pointing to some home truths about TSP, one thing I notice is they have not quite reached the goal. (Somewhat like Messi's frustrating approach to the German goal post during WC football, getting close but couldn't pull the trigger :-)). What I mean is that while they point to some raw truths about TSP that we know about, they ignore or whitewash US's continued role in nurturing this abomination to secure its interests including keeping India in check. Perhaps its too much to ask, they are patriotic Americans after all watching for their country's interests.
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@CestMoiz on Twitter
The above portion of the pic is a comment on this article http://www.dawn.com/news/1122276/eu-ban ... ying-cargo
The bottom part is the sad reality!
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So apparently, a grand total of NINE flights were airborne in Pakistan sometime today evening. Some threat, this :mrgreen:
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Splintering of Taliban Fuels Spate of Kidnapping in Pakistan
Growing factionalization within the Pakistani Taliban has spurred a rise in kidnappings of wealthy businessmen and influential figures, security officials say, as separate strands of the militant network seek funds for their terrorist activities.

An officer from the Federal Investigation Agency who works specifically on kidnapping cases said the splintering of the Pakistani Taliban, formally known as the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan or TTP, has led to more such crime in the past two years. "The militant groups are more active in this way," he said.

Security officials also warn that the launch in June of the long-awaited military operation against Taliban strongholds in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan has sent a new wave of militants into the cities, and that criminal activity there may increase as a result.

Pakistan's commercial hub, Karachi, has long been a notorious center for kidnapping, but these crimes are now increasingly being committed by Taliban factions or criminals they subcontract. Taliban-linked groups are also extending the practice to parts of the country where kidnappings have been rarer, including the capital, Islamabad.

The Taliban offer protection to kidnapping gangs in return for a cut of the proceeds. The criminals get access to havens in Taliban-controlled parts of the tribal areas, while the Taliban factions get the funding they need to operate. In some cases, kidnapping gangs of ordinary criminals sell their victims to the Taliban-linked groups, which then demand much higher ransoms from their families, said the Punjab police officer.

In a high-profile case in January, a group believed to have links with the Taliban kidnapped the deputy speaker of parliament, Moazzam Kalro, from Multan in Punjab province. Held for nearly three months in Kohat, a town in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province on the edge of the lawless tribal areas, he was eventually released after his family paid 50 million rupees ($500,000), two police officials familiar with the investigationconfirmed.

Similar amounts have been paid in ransom in other kidnappings suspected of having been carried out by Taliban factions or criminals acting on their behalf, police say.

A Taliban spokesman denied that the militant group offers protection to criminal kidnapping gangs. "Islam justifies the kidnap and murder of our enemies," said Shahidullah Shahid, the spokesman. "We can take the money of other enemies, but we do not target innocent Muslims."

As the Taliban have become more entrenched in the urban fabric of Karachi, the city has turned into a vital financial source for the militants, security officials said.

The Taliban mostly target the city's ethnically Pashtun areas. The militants' leadership is mostly ethnic Pashtun, and Pashtun businessmen tend to hire Pashtun drivers, cooks and guards—a community that the Taliban can easily infiltrate, said Niaz Khuso, head of the Karachi police counterterrorism unit.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif launched a security operation in Karachi in September, hoping to bring law and order to the country's financial center and only major port. But police say the operation failed to curb Taliban-linked kidnapping. "These elements remain out of control," said Farooq Awan, senior superintendent of Karachi's special investigations unit.

The Punjab police's official crime statistics cite 132 kidnaps for ransom in the country's largest province in 2013, down from 160 in 2012. But an officer with the police force said accurate numbers simply don't exist.

"There are kidnappings that are not reported, there are those that are reported but not registered, and there are those that are registered but dismissed," he said. "They are no accurate numbers of the number of kidnappings."

In Islamabad, five kidnappings were reported in the first six months of 2014, compared with nine in all of 2013.

A businessman who owns a factory on the edge of Islamabad told The Wall Street Journal he was kidnapped in September 2013 and didn't report it to police. He was released after his family paid up but he refused to discuss any details of the incident. The businessman's tight-lipped stance is not unusual among victims. Most victims avoid the police, preferring to negotiate privately with the kidnappers over a price and simply pay up, avoiding authorities they don't trust.

"They feel that if they report to the police that the kidnapper would know and they would damage them," said Akhtar Lalayka, the senior-most police officer in Rawalpindi, the garrison town that borders Islamabad.

Dr Muhammad Rizwan, a former senior officer in the Islamabad police, said links between the kidnap and extortion groups and terror networks based in Pakistan's northwest "have to be proved," but he admitted that the groups operate through a few religious seminaries on the outskirts of Islamabad known to have links to extremist groups.

Asif Tariq, who owns a high-end jewelry shop in Islamabad, said police advised him not to lodge a formal complaint after his brother was kidnapped five years ago, and to deal with the kidnappers directly. "If it goes wrong, it is your responsibility," Mr. Tariq said police told him. He negotiated a ransom and his brother was freed.

Nowadays, Mr. Tariq says he hears about two or three cases of extortion and kidnapping each month. "This is just from people we know," he added. "If they have money they are not safe."
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kancha, So defacto 'No makkhi zone" over TSP!!!

Rony, If TSPA Zrbe-Dard fails, the TTP is now already in the cities of Pakjab and they will reap the whirlwind.

Expect PISIS to emerge from the shadows.

Recall the wiki leaks and what not of US training militants in FATA/WANA to hedge for bad Taliban?
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Sindh govt to impose Section 144 as 23 people drown in Karachi beaches
Further, Express News reported that police had attempted to dispel the crowd from the beach on Thursday as people were still flocking to the sea for picnics. The attempt to clear the beach by the police got a little violent with the crowd.

We are still searching for dead bodies and these people can see the dead bodies with their eyes but they are still fighting with us to allow them to swim in the sea,” Fahad Ali, a police official deployed at the beach told AFP.

These people have came with their family members, there are women and children and you can see kids as young as six and their parents are fighting with us to allow them to swim in the sea,” he said.

This is the height of stupidity,” he added.

Efforts are being made to recover a car that submerged in the sea. However, the crane being used to lift the car also got stuck, according to Express News.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

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abhishek_sharma wrote:Terror connection
Pakistan plays a role in the story of ISIS founder Abu Musaab al Zarqawi.
From the above Khaled Ahmed's article, the following:
In the Pakistan National Assembly, the clerical alliance, Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal, demanded fateha prayers for Zarqawi but was denied by the speaker.
The provincial assembly of Lahore did offer fateha to Zarqawi by cleverly clubbing it along with that of another non-descript person. The Provincial assembly of NWFP also offered similar prayers. On a point of order, a Pakistan Peoples Party MPA asked the House to offer Fateha for an MMA MPA's mother. But another MMA member requested the House to offer Fateha for al-Zarqawi. The Speaker without particularly referring to any of the above dead, said the House should offer Fateha for all the Muslims who had died so far. Look at the masters of perfidy and duplicity in action !

Similarly, the JUI-F members and the entire Opposition, including Nawaz Sharif’s PML-N party, offered condolence to Osama bin Laden in the National Assembly after he was killed. On the other hand, when the Minorities Affairs minister, Shahbaz Bhatti was gunned down in Islamabad some members of the National Assembly refused to stand up and observe the courtesies because the slain minister was a Christian.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

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Rony wrote:Sindh govt to impose Section 144 as 23 people drown in Karachi beaches
....you can see kids as young as six ..... are fighting with us to allow them to swim in the sea” he said. This is the height of stupidity he added.
Now that's a paki kid. Stupid or not...but full of self-determination and daring do.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

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Popcorn time folks.

Immy wants to hold a huge march on August 14 to Isloo to overthrow Nawaz. Nawaz in a brilliant self goal has called in the army to protect Isloo (under the pretext of increased danger of Taliban attacks). The army will be deployed under article 245 of toilet paper of Pakistan (also called Constitution in civilized countries) which prevents the criticism or trial of army action under the powers of the article.

Army will want a pound of flesh. Or maybe they will cut a deal with immy and overthrow Nawaz or maybe they will shoot immys supporters. Or maybe immy will downhill ski. Or most likely army will refuse deployment orders. Grab your popcorns.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

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Good news, baki watchers. Achhe din (bus) aa gaye. Dar says talks in August to bring back $200bn in Swiss banks. There will be rivers of honey and milk, a car in every garage, picket fence....
talks will be held with Swiss authorities in August to bring back US$200 billion to Pakistan from banks in Switzerland
it could take three to four years to bring back the said money to the country
Dar said international monetary institutions had predicted that the country would be bankrupt in 2014, but the PML-N government with good performance proved that Pakistan has a strong economy
A momeen commented...

Arif Aslam Khan

Why is he trying to fool Pakistani Nation? there is a great chance that the Govt he work for will not be there in August, and even if it is there does any one will take his point that it will take 3-4 years to bring the money back from Switzerland, people who have deposited it there will leave the money there for 3-4 years? I would call this an absurd & pointless statement.
Martiallaw!!
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

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anupmisra wrote:

Martiallaw!!
Mashaallah
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul

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anupmisra wrote:
Arif Aslam Khan

Why is he trying to fool Pakistani Nation? there is a great chance that the Govt he work for will not be there in August, and even if it is there does any one will take his point that it will take 3-4 years to bring the money back from Switzerland, people who have deposited it there will leave the money there for 3-4 years? I would call this an absurd & pointless statement.
Martiallaw!!
The trick in announcing it now is that after govt is dismissed in August, till they come back to power they can claim that PML(N) govt was just 3 to 4 years away from getting black money from Switzerland when some hawks in GHQ blocked it 8)
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