Too Good!!! Felt like jumping in my office going pew-pew!!
Please tie a nimbu & mirchi to your hands!!

drones - may be..
satellite - there is nothing called real-time unless one has a fleet of satellites dedicated for this purpose (not sure how many low earth sats are needed for this). geo sats can be stationary wrt earth, but they are so faraway that they dont have enough resolution.
Big difference between simplistic theory and practice. No battle in the history of human warfare has ever been the kind of chess board type setups that theory recommends (based on your above questions).VKumar wrote:Disappointed to see no coordination and no use of other assets
Where is the artillery?
Where is smerch / pinaka?
Where is helicopter support to suppress enemy?
No drones?
No special forces?
No turret mounted artillery?
And how would the eye view of the commander of an Arjun task force be any different than from his tanks and his immediate vicinity? Is he likely to physically see everything going on? Every airstrike? Every spec ops mission out of his line of sight?This is supposed to be a battle not a demo for Arjun.
Why? So that I can leave the descriptions of the chaos of the unit level commanders and go back to my 30,000 feet view because its painful to read within the mud and dirt?... and work out a wholistic view involving all assets available.
When i read the second time more carefully, we do have the artillery and the drones, but their one liner mention got lost somewhere in the anticipationvivek_ahuja wrote: It had been struck by Indian artillery two hours ago and was deserted by now. A small column of BMP-IIs from the Trishul force had already reached its perimeters after Rhino had arrived on scene. That column of BMP-IIs would secure and hold that position to provide security for the northern flank of the breach point.
The border post west of the breach point was more in Kulkarni’s direct path and had not been reconnoitered by Indian forces except for airborne drones launched by Steel-Central.
This border post was Kulkarni’s first objective over Pakistani soil.
“Rhino-one to Trishul-actual. We have one tank immobilized three kilometers east of your position on way to waypoint Baker. Also one casevac needing medical assistance. Suggest you get some of your boys up here. Over.”
“Trishul-actual copies. Standby for support. Out.”
About how they secured the lanes .vivek_ahuja wrote: “Rhino-one here, Trishul. We see you. Weapons on hold. Requesting sit-rep. Over.”
“Mines, Rhino-one. Anti-personnel and anti-tank. Three-hundred meter depth to our north and south. The Pakis went overboard on this one. Almost as if they were expecting us! Makes me feel very comfortable knowing that. My boys have secured four lanes through the field and have established a small bridgehead beyond. You are good to go. Over.”
Yup. Spec ops are there. So are the drones, Counter battery systems as well as airstrikes. I kinda leave cookie-crumbs on all this inside the scenesrkhanna wrote:drones - may be..
satellite - there is nothing called real-time unless one has a fleet of satellites dedicated for this purpose (not sure how many low earth sats are needed for this). geo sats can be stationary wrt earth, but they are so faraway that they dont have enough resolution.
Also what about inserting Ghataks/LRRPs a the night prior to kick-off to tag the Artillery units and provide real time recon?
Pliss to be patient onlee.narmad wrote:
When i read the second time more carefully, we do have the artillery and the drones, but their one liner mention got lost somewhere in the anticipation
of the Rhino fight .
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But can you please write something more about Trishul Task force
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About how they secured the lanes .
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And a bit more from Steel-Central on the planning of this breach.
In a way Vivekji's previous scenario is replay of 1962 & current (this) scenario is 1965.ramana wrote:For me four different govts(Congress, NDA-1, UPA and NDA-2) have decided not to declassify the report for reasons of state.
And that is good enough.
If its was political and the stated goal of NDA-2 is "Congress mukth Bharat" it would have been declassified.
So its more than COngress involved.
I tend to agree with svinayak that 1962 was a gambit to draw the Chinese out of the FSU alliance.
India paid the price for ending the Cold War.
Hello All,rohan.chandel wrote:HI Vivek,
Is it possible to represent the battle thru map? Not an absolute necessity but maybe helps readers to visualize the battle in a more effective manner.I have read some books where they use lot of pictures/diagrams to explain the situation to readers.
N.B: If you think the above suggestion will cause delays in your posts,please ignore them completely.![]()
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Regards,
Rohan
Hopefully you are getting some much needed down time from work and other earthly burdensI gather from Vivek's FB page that he is recuperating from a shoulder injury and that may be the reason for his long absence.
Wishing speedy recovery Vivek, get well soon!