Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul 2014

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Aug 2014 07:38

Yawn:

http://www.dawn.com/news/1127962/dangerous-trends

Dangerous trends
By Editorial

it is not just the PML-N government that is in the metaphorical firing line but the democratic system itself that is on trial. And, with the street protest against the government entering its third week, the pressure on the system has grown.

Pressure on not just government but on the system itself. AoA!

Quite how much that pressure has grown in recent days was in evidence on Tuesday as the Prime Minister’s Office issued an extraordinary statement after a meeting between Nawaz Sharif and army chief Gen Raheel Sharif. In the press release issued by the Prime Minister Office, there is not just an explicit mention that matters of high politics were discussed between the highest-ranking civilian and the most powerful military leader on matters concerning politics but that, rather extraordinarily, the two men are in agreement that the political impasse should be resolved expeditiously.

Only in Pakistan will an army chief fly to PM's house to 'discuss' some street protests. Can you imagine US army chief getting involved with Ferguson protests or Indian army chief coming to 7RCR to discuss Nirbhaya protests?

The benefit that Mr Sharif and the PML-N would have hoped to gain from such a statement is fairly obvious: the federal government is trying to show that the army leadership and the PML-N are still working together and in agreement on the way out of the crisis.

Essentially, the PML-N’s posturing is meant to signal to the protesters and their leaders that the military is on the government’s side, not the protesters’. In truth, however, the PML-N’s posturing only reveals its own uneasiness – and perhaps even uncertainty – about what may happen if push comes to shove. In truth, there are enough tensions on policy matters between the PML-N government and the military to leave a lingering question mark over whether the army leadership may prefer a different political dispensation in the country.

For the PML-N, the pressure is coming from many directions. The PTI has floated the idea of a so-called in-house change in parliament; the MQM has talked of a possible sacrifice being made; the PML-Q leadership has tried to sow fear by ominously reminding the political class of how political crises have led to military interventions in Thailand and Egypt; and even the ANP has talked of being committed to the democratic process but not necessarily the prime ministership of Mr Sharif.

Meanwhile, protesters continued to occupy Constitution Avenue yesterday despite the Supreme Court suggesting that they needed to move. Amidst all of this, Prime Minister Sharif has unhappily returned to his approach of being seen sometimes and heard rarely. Mr Sharif ought to speak to the public and put in perspective what this protracted crisis is about and the kind of pressures his government is under.

I soch it is the army that is behind the supreme court directive to clear Constitushun avenue in the hope that govt will act stupid and try to forcefully evict the protesters thus deteriorating the situation further creating an opening for army intervention. But I think badmash saw through this army game plan. He is really testing army's patience. Not good for his head.

It is a good editorial. Good analysis of the situation hence posted in full.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Aug 2014 07:40

Meanwhile

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 27 Aug 2014 07:56

Malsi "Religion of pieces" at work:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/27/world ... phone&_r=0

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The Pakistani Taliban has suffered its second major split in three months, with militant leaders this week confirming the emergence of a hard-line splinter group inspired by the success of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

The new group, known as Jamaat-e-Ahrar, is composed of disaffected Taliban factions from four of the seven tribal districts along Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan, according to a video released by the group. Counterterrorism experts said the group was effectively controlled by Omar Khalid Khorasani, an ambitious Taliban commander with strong ties to Al Qaeda.

Mr. Khorasani’s faction, which is based in the Mohmand tribal agency near Peshawar, had emerged as one of the most active Taliban elements this year. It is believed to have carried out a bombing in Islamabad that sought to derail peace talks between the Taliban and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s government.

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Aug 2014 08:03

^
Wait, we were told by ISPR that zarb-e-zabzab was a great success and hundreds of militants were killed but here they are forming splinter groups, resolving differences and building a road map for the future.

The Pakistani Taliban has always been a loose and often conflicted coalition of smaller cells. But it faced a huge public setback in May when a major segment of the Mehsud tribe broke away amid factional fighting in the mountains of Waziristan.

But in recent weeks, Mr. Fazlullah has worked to reunite with the Mehsud factions, and some Taliban representatives began signaling this week that he seemed to be making progress.

Further splits in the Taliban may be bad news for stability inside Pakistan, said Mr. Rana, the analyst. “The militant landscape remains broadly the same, and this new group could be even more brutal,” he said. “Security-wise, it may not be good news.”

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Aug 2014 12:31

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 27 Aug 2014 12:34

Is Badmash being couped again? is Raheel pulling something from his Musharaf?

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Aug 2014 12:36

Amazing how RAPEs are blaming Nawaz Shariff for derailing democracy and are suggesting he should have compromised and given space to army but India should strengthen the hands of civilians and democracy by talking. WTF? They themselves are not ready to challenge and question the army for repeated coups and for wielding real power in Pakistan. It is always an outsider's responsibility to fix things in Pakistan.

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Aug 2014 12:37

Aditya_V wrote:Is Badmash being couped again? is Raheel pulling something from his Musharaf?

I don't think so. At least not yet. Just applying more pressure on badmash to quit voluntarily.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2014 12:40

Isn't the 48-hour deadline for TuQ and his followers to do a Jonestown in 'Slummabad over? Maybe the trucks from wah-wah can't just a preemptive move.

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Aug 2014 12:44

anupmisraji, for your convenience. TuQ deadline clock

https://infogr.am/dr-tahirul-qadris-new ... ne?src=web

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Aug 2014 12:46

deleted.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2014 12:46

Ganja el Sharief has declared victory! Democracy has triumphed

Sharif on Wednesday said today would be remembered in the nation's history as a great day for democracy

It makes me happy to think that this is the voice of the 200 million people of the country

This is the triumph of a vision

governments come and go, prime ministers come and go

And I stand corrected.

PAT chief Tahirul Qadri's deadline to the government is expiring this evening and the cleric recently went as far as calling for the hanging of the Sharif brothers

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2014 12:48

partha wrote:anupmisraji, for your convenience. TuQ deadline clock

https://infogr.am/dr-tahirul-qadris-new ... ne?src=web

Thanks you, Parthullah. The reverse clock gives me just about 14 hours to get my day started and done, and order in a twelve pack.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2014 12:56

Meanwhile, more reality check at the gates of wah-wah productions. PCB decides to postpone Super League.

Before all you loyal well wishers of pakiland go tizzy and delirious over this mind-numbing, earth shattering news that has struck us all like a thunderbolt out of the blue, please note that the super-duper league to rival all bania-sponsored leagues is only postponed. Not cancelled.

Bhy?

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has decided to postpone its first Super League for not getting healthy bidders and not having enough time to hold it in January next year.

two bidders for the Pakistan Super League (PSL) rights

sources said the PCB was not satisfied with the financial position of both the bidders.

Neither one of the two desperate but clueless bidders were healthy. That's bhy.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Aug 2014 15:08

partha wrote:Amazing how RAPEs are blaming Nawaz Shariff for derailing democracy and are suggesting he should have compromised and given space to army but India should strengthen the hands of civilians and democracy by talking. WTF? They themselves are not ready to challenge and question the army for repeated coups and for wielding real power in Pakistan. It is always an outsider's responsibility to fix things in Pakistan.

This is just another variation on the "help me or I'll shoot myself" game that Pakistan plays.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Aug 2014 15:21

Sharif: It makes me happy to think that this is the voice of the 200 million people of the country

If one goes here, UN World Population Prospects,
http://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/unpp/panel_population.htm
one can find the "constant fertility variant" of Pakistan population projections.

Code: Select all

Year	    Value (millions)
1990	   111.091
1995	   126.690
2000	   143.832
2005	   157.971
2010	   173.149
2015	   191.492
2020	   212.817

The CIA world factbook estimates Pakistan's population to be:

196,174,380 (July 2014 est.)

i.e., Pakistan supposedly has increasing fertility, exceeding in 2014 the population projection for 2015 at constant fertility.

i.e., either Pakistan is exploding in yet another way, or else someone in the CIA is smoking crack.

PS: an old article on Pakistan's population explosion:
http://www.newgeography.com/content/002 ... -exploding

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2014 15:48

A_Gupta wrote:
Sharif: It makes me happy to think that this is the voice of the 200 million people of the country
Pakistan supposedly has increasing fertility, exceeding in 2014 the population projection for 2015 at constant fertility.

El Sharief is the first paki in power, AFAIK, who has used this number, even if it is rounded up. In pakiland, "supposedly" quickly becomes "fact" in order to deflect "reality". Maybe the real number is much over 200M, hain? All the pakis have to do is to release the last census figures.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 27 Aug 2014 17:01

anupmisra wrote:Meanwhile, more reality check at the gates of wah-wah productions. PCB decides to postpone Super League.

Before all you loyal well wishers of pakiland go tizzy and delirious over this mind-numbing, earth shattering news that has struck us all like a thunderbolt out of the blue, please note that the super-duper league to rival all bania-sponsored leagues is only postponed. Not cancelled.

Bhy?

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has decided to postpone its first Super League for not getting healthy bidders and not having enough time to hold it in January next year.
two bidders for the Pakistan Super League (PSL) rights
sources said the PCB was not satisfied with the financial position of both the bidders.
Neither one of the two desperate but clueless bidders were healthy. That's bhy.

Well , the real reason from yesterday was that players were too busy.
I actually bought that story.... until anupmisra-ji ran into it . Pak is land of milk & honey but no money!

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 27 Aug 2014 17:16

^^^ So our desi IBN will not call a spade a spade. Ha! It takes Yawn! to wake us up to reality. What a mess!!!

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Aug 2014 18:09

Lo Ji, aab ayega muzza!

PAT, PTI protestors dig up graves around D-Chowk in Islamabad

ISLAMABAD – The anti-government protestors belonging to the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and the Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) on Wednesday started digging graves to demonstrate their determination to lay down their lives till the fulfillment of their demands.

The unexpected activity was witnessed around D-Chowk where several protestors were seen digging up graves. Protestors dug the graves on the greenbelt of the D-Chowk and also displayed burial shrouds.

The move came few hours before Dr Tahirul Qadri’s deadline to the government and he made it clear that whatever will happen after the deadline would not be his responsibility.

On Monday, Tahirul Qadri leading a mass anti-government rally in front of parliament issued a 48-hour deadline for Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to step down, saying he was prepared to die to see it happen.

Tahirul Qadri showed protesters a white burial shroud in a speech issuing the deadline for the prime minister, who had refused to step down.

Cheers

arminius · Post by **arminius** » 27 Aug 2014 18:52

Peregrine wrote:Lo Ji, aab ayega muzza!

PAT, PTI protestors dig up graves around D-Chowk in Islamabad

ISLAMABAD – The anti-government protestors belonging to the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and the Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) on Wednesday started digging graves to demonstrate their determination to lay down their lives till the fulfillment of their demands.

This nautanki has been running for too long. Moi want some quadrifications. I was expecting some R-rated stuff, it is turning out to be a PG. Arrah is cruel onree, no pleasure for kuffars.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Aug 2014 20:39

SS and other gurus and chelas,

I think TSP had its "Yeltsin moment" aka the coup that failed.
ISI retd jarnails like Pasha orchestrated a Paki Spring with Dimwit & TuQ.
These two represent RAPE(Amrika pasand) and Beards (Arrah) with Jihadi fistula Army in background.

So all three bad As have been defeated.

Looks like the coup failed as the regular PAA stood down and Paki Spring turned to Paki Autumn.

If this is the template, expect the churning and off-shoring non-productive regions and areas to consolidate the core.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Aug 2014 20:50

PakiAaaarmy have accused Sharif of collaborating with GOI to keep PA busy at the border. PA must be sulking now and if the accusation is correct, Pakistani is already tottering on the edge of Islamist abyss.
Pakistan may fall to Satan before Afghanistan. This will restore the natural border in Islamic territory. Pathan will collect Laagan from Islamabad & Lahore.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 27 Aug 2014 21:03

^^^Ramana, TQ is Barelvi not Deobandi, that is why he and Dimit never combined their forces for that would have cooked IK's goose with the Taliban. TQ may have some street power but not enough to topple Ganja who has far greater forepower at his disposal.

In this battle the Deobandis have stayed out. That is why it is a storm in a teacup....i.e. a PG13 movie.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 27 Aug 2014 21:08

^^^

These two represent RAPE(Amrika pasand) and Beards (Arrah) with Jihadi fistula Army in background.

So all three bad As have been defeated.

Looks like the coup failed as the regular PAA stood down and Paki Spring turned to Paki Autumn.

All three have survived for tamasha for another day. By Paki yardstick it is not defeat. It is victory!

Now, we can add to our ever increasing Bakistani terminology -

state politicians (Dimran Con) and non-state politicians (TuQ TuQ),
state PM (Badmash) and non-state PMs (The pretendors and the Real Sheriff),
state rigging (Ifty) and non-state digging (PTI/PAT hordes)
state army (RAWheel and cohorts) and non-state army (Pasha and cohorts). This is a two headed snake.
state judiciary (SC etc.) and non-state justice (TuQ - hang Badmash)

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Aug 2014 21:17

Water Possession
PoaqtopussyReaching Khudkushi

Pakistan wants to approach the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for arbitration if India continues with its stance of constructing the Kishanganga Dam on River Jhelum and four other dams on the Chenab in violation of the Indus Water Treaty (IWT). This come after India has taken an aggressive stance against Pakistan, leading to the freezing over of peace talks on Kashmir. It seems that India won’t stand down, it’s looking at itself as the regional hegemon and will take what it needs and do what it wants and talks have failed.Even if the issue goes to the ICJ, there is no telling what will happen. India has more resources and in an international court, it will be more organized. There is very little attention paid to the water issue, especially legal expertise. There are other concerns as well; that the government might not allow a reference to ICJ over trade concerns. Additionally, the IWT is 50 years old and this might open a Pandora’s box. India may well demand a revision of the dated treaty and we may further lose our water privileges. Pakistan has raised objections to any dam construction in the past and international arbitrators have quashed them all. Under international law, the obligation to not inflict harm on Pakistan restricts the sovereignty of India. Precedent might not be with us. And as the expression goes, “Possession is nine-tenths of the law.”India has been stealing Pakistani waters for a long time. But we have also been wasting our water resources with almost criminal negligence and abandon. We don’t have competent people who can take necessary action; instead we have politicised the matter of the dams, to the benefit of no party. Is this India striking Pakistan where it hurts most? India will look after its people and make dams, and it has been making dozens to increase power generation capability. Pakistan will keep complaining, and lose cases at the ICJ, while load shedding and water shortage become the norm. And then, when all is said and done, will we have to bend and buy electricity from India (from water that was ours to begin with)?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Aug 2014 21:29

Fragile democracy in danger

Talat Mahamood

The cry for a ‘new Pakistan’ by Imran with all the tried out leaders surrounding him makes a mockery of his vision. Imran’s claim that his present movement to oust Nawaz is similar to what the Egyptians launched against former President Mubarak of Egypt is a false analogy and betrays an erroneous understanding of the difference in the political systems of the two countries.
Clearly, in a democratic system, protest movements are the norm. But Imran’s reference to the protests in the UK against the decision of former British prime minister Tony Blair to participate in the war in Iraq is another case of misreading history. Whereas he was full of praise for British democracy he fails to understand that it dates back to 1215 when the famous Magna Carta was agreed to. And has been refined over centuries through practice. It would have been worthwhile for him to mention about the regularity with which the parliamentarians and leaders of political parties in the UK attend the parliament sessions. On the contrary, by constantly attacking the parliament and fellow politicians as highly corrupt, the parliament illegitimate and on the verge of collapse, at his nightly street gala, he is undermining the sanctity of the parliament and lowering its image in the eyes of the people. Nascent democracy in Pakistan needs to be nurtured by setting good traditions and practices. Whereas by creating further disillusionment by delegitimising it in their eyes a grave situation could emerge.Imran is least sensitive to the disruption of the economy and exceptional inconvenience caused to people. Consumed by his super ego and buoyed by cheering young party supporters, he fails to understand that there are millions who are watching on TV screens and forming their own opinion.He is treading a dangerous path by inciting people to launch a civil disobedience movement. This is tantamount to striking at the foundations of the state. If people do not pay taxes, utility bills and dry the sources of its income how do you sustain government machinery. Imagine a possible scenario that the government goes bankrupt and is unable to pay salaries or meet expenditures of defence, education and health and fails to meet statutory budget commitments of all provinces.
If a political solution was not found, the army in all likelihood would have to reluctantly step in! Hopefully, sense will prevail and the crisis will be diffused, because military interventions have a dynamic of their own wherein all sides and worst of all the country sufferers most.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Aug 2014 22:16

Jhujar wrote:Water Possession
PoaqtopussyReaching Khudkushi

Pakistan wants to approach the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for arbitration if India continues with its stance of constructing the Kishanganga Dam on River Jhelum and four other dams on the Chenab in violation of the Indus Water Treaty (IWT). This come after India has taken an aggressive stance against Pakistan, leading to the freezing over of peace talks on Kashmir. It seems that India won’t stand down, it’s looking at itself as the regional hegemon and will take what it needs and do what it wants and talks have failed.Even if the issue goes to the ICJ, there is no telling what will happen. India has more resources and in an international court, it will be more organized. There is very little attention paid to the water issue, especially legal expertise. There are other concerns as well; that the government might not allow a reference to ICJ over trade concerns. Additionally, the IWT is 50 years old and this might open a Pandora’s box. India may well demand a revision of the dated treaty and we may further lose our water privileges. Pakistan has raised objections to any dam construction in the past and international arbitrators have quashed them all. Under international law, the obligation to not inflict harm on Pakistan restricts the sovereignty of India. Precedent might not be with us. And as the expression goes, “Possession is nine-tenths of the law.”India has been stealing Pakistani waters for a long time. But we have also been wasting our water resources with almost criminal negligence and abandon. We don’t have competent people who can take necessary action; instead we have politicised the matter of the dams, to the benefit of no party. Is this India striking Pakistan where it hurts most? India will look after its people and make dams, and it has been making dozens to increase power generation capability. Pakistan will keep complaining, and lose cases at the ICJ, while load shedding and water shortage become the norm. And then, when all is said and done, will we have to bend and buy electricity from India (from water that was ours to begin with)?

Jhujar Ji :

A Kay Hovay?

Pakistanis have to Bend and they have to Pay after having Indians Performing GUBO ala KAMA SUTRA - all Eighty Four Position. The Pakistani Punjab dominated by the Five Rivers will now have India as their Fifth Father!

Oh! the ignominy of it all!

Cheers

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Aug 2014 22:26

Didn't kishenganga already go through arbitration by a neutral expert? Is there remedy beyond that? Also Pakis are idiots. ICJ does not have compulsory jurisdiction. For a case to be taken to ICJ, both parties should agree to bringing up a case with ICJ. There is a big difference between a court of a country which has automatic jurisdiction over its citizens and ICJ which does not have automatic jurisdiction over countries. Else any country can file any case on any other country. "We will take India to ICJ" Is like threatening "I will bring my daddy to school tomorrow".

Meanwhile Pakistan army has issued a statement that no talks with India is possible till cashmere is resolved. So with Pakistan government destabilized and US pulling out and Indian intelligence agencies reporting 37 camps in PoK it is back to the 90s then.

Under international law, the obligation to not inflict harm on Pakistan restricts the sovereignty of India.

This is nonsense. India won all its cases vis-à-vis IWT because paki complaints had no merits.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Aug 2014 22:34

Peregrine wrote:
Jhujar wrote:Water Possession

A Kay Hovay?Pakistanis have to Bend and they have to Pay after having Indians Performing GUBO ala KAMA SUTRA - all Eighty Four Position. The Pakistani Punjab dominated by the Five Rivers will now have India as their Fifth Father!Oh! the ignominy of it all!Cheers

Its only by bending , they produce the right Curve position for GUBO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1DZxkiMjRo
Yeh Raat Bheegi Bheegi

Yeh Induswater Treaty,Bijli Paani kaa Pawwarra
OOttha Dhere Dhere, paki G.. pyara pyara

Lo Vasleen Lagga Kar, Aayye Hai Pakistri
Dikhaye Dheere Dheere curved Mush ka Nazara!

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 27 Aug 2014 23:07

Anujan wrote: Meanwhile Pakistan army has issued a statement that no talks with India is possible till cashmere is resolved.

Where is this statement?

partha · Post by **partha** » 28 Aug 2014 00:09

So this Qadri fellow has postponed the revolution by 24 hours again

. It is clear that he is giving time for his handlers to decide their next move.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 28 Aug 2014 01:26

They are AAP wannabes Parthaji.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Aug 2014 02:28

RoyG wrote:They are AAP wannabes Parthaji.

And Dimwit told Burkha not to compare him to Kejriwal !!!

Both Dimwit and Kejri are working from same Brookingzai playbook.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 28 Aug 2014 02:59

Marchers must vacate one lane of road, says SC

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court of Pakistan on Wednesday while directing both protesting parties, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) to clear one side of the Constitution Avenue observed that commuters were still facing obstacles and hardships while travelling on the road.
The apex court on meanwhile resumed hearing of identical petitions filed by Supreme Court Bar Association (SCBA) and other bar councils related to any extra-constitutional step from any authority or institution. A five member larger bench of the top court headed by Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Nasirul Mulk heard the case and during proceedings the court observed obstacles are still there and people are bracing hardships while travelling on the Constitutional Avenue.

Cheers

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 28 Aug 2014 03:16

^^^

Marchers must vacate one lane of road, says SC

While other countries have lanes that are demarcated for Carpool/ HOV/ Toll lanes versus Regular lanes, here we have one more Pakistani first ...

Coup Lane, and Non-Coup Lane

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Aug 2014 05:07

Talks fail; ‘Youm-e-Inqilab’ today

Youm E Exploding Mush

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) on Wednesday midnight announced that their separate negotiations with the federal government have ended in a failure following refusal of the PML-N regime to come to terms with their set of demands.
PAT chief Tahirul Qadri announced “Youm-e-Inqilab” today (Thursday) in his late-night address to his supporters, wile PTI chief Imran Khan told his workers and followers to continue with his peaceful struggle at the sit-in venue of the Constitution Avenue. But Qadri created chaos and scare in the capital as he indirectly warned of a looming military intervention, and asked workers to get ready for sacrifice and martyrdom on Thursday. Security people translate it as a stark and indirect warning of storming government buildings, especially Parliament House.
Some government sources, however, remained optimistic about a last-minute deal on Thursday with PAT as Qadri told his crowds after two rounds of negotiations on Wednesday with government’s ministerial committee that the doors of the negotiations have been closed as government did not fulfil two of its demands – registration of FIR against 21 people nominated by it, and resignation of Punjab Chief Minister Shahba Sharif – till midnight Wednesday. PTI chief also ended talks with the government following refusal of the prime minister to step down for a 30-day period subject to completion of proposed Supreme Court investigation into 2013 elections fraud allegations.
The PML-N government had earlier changed its dialogue strategy preferring a fast track deal with Tahirul Qadri-led PAT, as PTI chief Imran Khan ended the dialogue process after his demand regarding Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s time-bound resignation or proceeding on leave was formally rejected by the government. Two back-to-back meetings between the government’s top negotiator, Senior Minister Ishaq Dar with PAT chief Tahirul Qadri in his container did not produce any breakthrough till midnight on Wednesday as the PAT insisted on immediate registration of FIR against those nominated in its application for registration of the FIR for Model Town killings, and production of Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif’s written resignation along with those of the federal and provincial ministers nominated in its FIR. Tahirul Qadri announced suspension of talks with the government and said the final decision would be taken by an “Inqilabi Jirga” of people Thursday evening. “Participants of the Inqilab March would decide Thursday at 3pm the fate of the nation and Pakistan, and it would be a day of revolution,” the firebrand Canada-based anti-government cleric said. “We will prove true and realise the dream of Quaid-i-Azam and the promise of constitution of the country to the masses,” he maintained. Meanwhile, PTI chief Imran Khan Wednesday announced an end to negotiations with the government till the resignation of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. Addressing his supporters in the Red Zone after the government and PTI negotiating teams failed to break the deadlock, Imran said the government accepted all the demands except the resignation of Nawaz Sharif. He said there could be no independent investigation into alleged rigging of elections in the presence of Nawaz Sharif. The government side seemed in a hurry to strike a deal with the PAT after a reported advice from the military establishment to end the current political stalemate through meaningful negotiations, and end choking of the Constitution Avenue, which was crippling the working of the central government. The military had earlier set limits for government as well as protest marchers not to cross read lines i.e. non-indulgence into violence of any sort, or invading any government building along the Constitution Avenue. The federal government on Tuesday had also assured the garrison that the PTI camp seemed in low morale Wednesday night as its crowd dwindled and negotiations with the government ended in a stalemate, forcing its chief to come on stage at midnight and telling party and workers to stay put for a long haul.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Aug 2014 06:17

RCase wrote:All three have survived for tamasha for another day. By Paki yardstick it is not defeat. It is victory!
Now, we can add to our ever increasing Bakistani terminology -
state politicians (Dimran Con) . . .

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Aug 2014 06:34

Anujan wrote:Didn't kishenganga already go through arbitration by a neutral expert? Is there remedy beyond that? Also Pakis are idiots. ICJ does not have compulsory jurisdiction. For a case to be taken to ICJ, both parties should agree to bringing up a case with ICJ. There is a big difference between a court of a country which has automatic jurisdiction over its citizens and ICJ which does not have automatic jurisdiction over countries. Else any country can file any case on any other country. "We will take India to ICJ" Is like threatening "I will bring my daddy to school tomorrow".

In the Atlantique case, STFUP argued that either India should voluntarily subject itself to ICJ or the ICJ must forcefully establish its jurisdiction on India based on a pre-Independence treaty signed by the British for 'Pacific Settlements of Disputes".

India argued that such a treaty had lapsed and ICJ had no jurisdiction at all on inter-state disputes between India and Pakistan. The ICJ accepted that by an overwhelming margin and the issue was settled in its finality. Full Stop.

In c. 2008, STFUP threatened the UNSC that it would take up the matter of it classifying JuD as a terrorist organization and its chief Hafiz Saeed as a terrorist, to the ICJ !! Such is the infatuation of the Pakistanis with this organization.

As for Kishenganga, the CoA (Court of Arbitration) is un-appealable. It is final. Also, the IWT does not have any such provision for taking the issue to any body other than a Neutral Expert or the CoA.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 28 Aug 2014 06:45

Historic temple’s days may be numbered

Valmiki Mandir or Balaknash Temple, as it is commonly known, might be razed along with several Hindu residences in the area to make way for an educational and housing complex.

The officials had assured the Hindus that they would build a new temple wherever the residents of Gracy Lines were relocated

the Hindu community feared that they may not be welcome in any other part of the city if they were to be relocated.