Telugu States' News and Discussion

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 27 Nov 2014 11:36

Ramana and NagehsKS garlu:

Here is the first list from Sri Vishwanatha Satyanarayana. I will follow with more names in other posts. I will annotate in different posts. may be in the books thread. I haven't read many in the list but my mom had. I don't think she remembers the details at this point. I would have to read to give detailed reviews which will take more time than what is at my disposal at the moement. So for now only the list. It is written in ITRANS (as I remember it) so that the list can be renedered in Telugu script easily.

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kAshmeera rAja vamsha navalalu - six books put together will be about 800 pages or ~15% larger than vEyipaDagalu

1. yahsOvati
2. pAti peTTina nANemulu
3. mihiarakuluDu (my preference would be mihiarkuLuDu, but looks like VS has chosen the former)
4. sanjeevakraNi (again I would have preferred sanjeevakaRaNi)
5. kavalalu
6. bhramaravAsini

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nEpALa rAja vamsha navalalu - six books put together will be about 800 pages or ~15% larger than vEyipaDagalu

1. dinDu krinda pOkachekka
2. chiTlIchiTlani gAjulu
3. saudAmini
4. dootamEghamu
5. lalitA paTTaNappu rANi
6. dantapu duvvena

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purANa vaira grantha mAla (except just one, the 4th book, is listed as magatha rAja vamsha charitra- VS says in the preface that the series is known by either of the two names) - 12 books put toegether is about 1600 pages or twice the size of vEyipaDagalu)

VS' preface for each book is very interesting. He says he wrote this series to show how the westerners have distorted Indian history. The word he uses for the western rendering of Indian history from mahAbhArata onwards is "nonreality".

1. bhagavantuni meeda paga
2. nAstika dhoomamu
3. dhooma rEkha
4. nandO rAjA bhavishyati
5. chandraguptuni swapnamu
6. ashwamEthamu
7. amrutavalli
8. puli mruggu
9. nAga sEnuDu
10. heleena
11. vEdavati
12. nivEdita

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An interesting coincidence is that all the above books have something in common with the discussion that is going on in the 'Why is "Hindu Nationalism" spoken of in a pejorative sense?' thread here in open BRF.

There are several others books which I have noted down in my nortebook and will post the list shortly. Reviews have to wait until a later date (unless somebody else - RamaY or Yagnasri who have the books - post the reviews in which case I wil chip in with my comments)

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Here is another one in verse by sreenAthuDu.

palnATi veera charitra

sreenAthuDu or sreenAtha kavi was purportedly a brother-in-law of tikkana and a tax socfflaw. His poetry is extremely erudite and would be very difficult to translate.

I am leaving out VS' social novels for now (unles somebody would want the names posted). vEyipaDagalu is more if a social novel than historical fiction.

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Ramana garu: A small correction - what I remember is that VS got the jnanpeeth award mainly for his ramayaNa kalpavruskham. vEyipaDagalu was also sighted but as the second book. It is a tragedy that the former magnum opus of VS is not readily avaialbel but muPPALa ranganAyakamma's distorted parody of this great book which goes by the name of ramAyaNa visha vrukshmu is widely disseminated and is on the shelves of most public libraries - big and small - in AP and TG. I have read MR's book and what a travesty it is. Several people including Susanna A. Roy, Illiah etc. are in thrall of this caricature rather than Vs's magnum opus.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 27 Nov 2014 11:49

I have PDFs of most of the books. You need just mail me. I think most of you have my personal gmail id.

ishaan · Post by **ishaan** » 27 Nov 2014 13:44

Yagnasri wrote:I have PDFs of most of the books. You need just mail me. I think most of you have my personal gmail id.

Yagrasri garu can you email me at venkyk75 at gmail dot com. TIA

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 27 Nov 2014 23:47

I request all (who have ready access to books published in India) to buy the set of books from VS's son Vishwnataha Pavani Shastri. As of now the books are printed on very fragile paper and binding is not that great. Probably the copyright holders (I presume that would be his decsendants) do not have the funding to produce the works in better binding and longer lasting paper. I request people outside India too to buy the set and donate to your public library of choice in AP/TG after getting the PDFs. If readers who can read telugu don't do this, we would have some of these works disapear from our lands. We would have to line up at LoC, Yale, Urbana, or Berkely (the largest libraries in the US) to access these and other works.

I was told lack of funding is one of the reasons why rAmAyaNa kalpa vruksham's publication has been delayed. RamaY has the address of a person/small publisher in Vijayawada who can ship books (specifically VS since I got the impression that he is touch with Sri Pavani Shashtri).

VS's books are hard to read - they are a mixture of samskrutam and telugu of 1920-1970s. During 1960-1962 he was the principal of Sri Raja Rajeshawara Degree College (popularly known as SRR Degree college) of Karimnagar. Earlier he was at another SRR college which was (is?) in Vijayawada. He wrote several books during his three year stay in Karimnagar which have some TG telugu influence as well. Al his novels have words which probably one would not find in a dictionary - not CP Brown's for sure as CP Brown mainly catalogued words from AP with some tamil influence.

Does somebody know whether there is a pada prayOga kOshamu for VS and other modern writers like we have for the classical writers - nannaiah, tikkana, et al.?

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 28 Nov 2014 09:39

nageshks wrote:SrinivasK-ji, Ramana-ji,
Thanks for the info about the books. Had read PVNR's book `Insider' but not his translations. He was a very rare breed of thinking politician.

the more I think, the more I realize that he was to India was Merkel is currently to Germany.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 28 Nov 2014 09:44

Yagnasri wrote:I have PDFs of most of the books. You need just mail me. I think most of you have my personal gmail id.

can you post it so I can message you with a request for those PDF's? thank you!

chandrasekhar.m · Post by **chandrasekhar.m** » 29 Nov 2014 03:04

What about Suravaram Pratapa Reddy's books? Wiki says he was a social historian - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suravaram_Pratapareddy

He compiled a list of 354 Telangana poets under the title "Golconda Kavulu" to prove that Telangana also had literature and poetry. Pratapareddy wrote approximately 40 books, including Nizamrashtra Palanam, Mogalayi kathalu, Sanghoddharana, Ucchala Vishadamu, Grandhalayamu, Hinduvula Pandugalu, Haindava Dharmaveerulu, Yuvajana Vignyanam etc. Most prominent among his writings was Andhrula Sanghikacharitra (Social History of Andhras), which won him prestigious "Kendra Sahitya Academy Award," a federal Indian government award for literature. In this book he described a thousand years of Telugu cultural and social history.

Bibliography
Golconda Kavula Charitra
Raamayana Visheeshaalu
Hinduvula Pandagalu
Hindava Dharma Viirulu
and many short stories and poems.

Has anyone here read his books? Especially the Nizamrashtra Palanam and Andhrula Sanghikacharitra? They seem very interesting.

matrimc saar, does the edition of Ramayana Kalpavruksham come with a commentary so that someone who doesn't understand (classical) literary/poetic style Telugu can still grasp the meaning?

Since we are talking about books, has anyone read Festivals, Sports and Pastimes of India by Dr V Raghavan, the great Sanskrit scholar? I will be going to India in December and want to come back with a haul of books like that written by Indians explaining our history and culture. Can someone advise which places I should go to in Hyderabad to acquire such books?

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 01 Dec 2014 10:01

Chandra.m.: I will get back. :placeholder:

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Dec 2014 04:40

Twitter is saying NaMo to launch 'Telangana bachao' on Jan 20th!!!

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 02 Dec 2014 06:42

ramana and nagehsKS garlu: do you want me to post the rest of the list and a couple from Bapiraju? Is the interest from the publisher still there?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 Dec 2014 06:54

Please post the book names Saar. We would love to read them.

Do you know if these books are available? I tried to get some of them with no success

For example that Sri Lekha, one Yugadi etc.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 02 Dec 2014 06:54

matrimc wrote:ramana and nagehsKS garlu: do you want me to post the rest of the list and a couple from Bapiraju? Is theinterest from the publisher still there?

Please do, Matrimc-ji. I have been noting down the books you have listed. I have submitted everything in the older lists posted on this thread. I would be delighted to accept any more suggestions from you.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 Dec 2014 07:11

matrimc wrote:ramana and nagehsKS garlu: do you want me to post the rest of the list and a couple from Bapiraju? Is theinterest from the publisher still there?

I don't know if it was already mentioned but Gona Ganna Reddy is another exciting historical thriller by Bapiraju garu, set in Rani Rudramma's time. Would make a great movie.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 Dec 2014 07:32

Now that discussion of books seems to have come up...

For the longest time I have been looking for a copy of Madhura Vijayamu (author of Telugu version unknown to me) which is a Telugu rendition of a Samskrutam chronicle by Princess Ganga, of the reconquest of Madhura (Madurai) by her husband Prince Kampana of Vijayanagar, from the occupying Muslim invaders. Basically Ganga Devi, a newly married bride, worked as embedded war correspondent and wrote an eyewitness account of the war.

The book was a prescribed non-detailed text for Telugu in senior Intermediate for the academic year 1972-73. After that it seems to have disappeared completely. I have been told that the Samskrutham original was in someone's private collection in Karnataka but I could not follow it up.

My failure to find such a remarkable book has led me to suspect that somehow the brutally frank eyewitness account of Muslim depredations made it politically unacceptable and caused the authorities to make it disappear.

I would be extremely interested in finding a copy of both the samskrutham original as well as the Telugu version. I did manage to find a version in Telugu different from the 1972-73 nondetailed book, from Vetapalem library but it was very disappointing as it was a retelling that completely obscured the voice of Ganga Devi.

I will be happy to contribute towards the costs of this effort.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 02 Dec 2014 07:46

KLNMurthy wrote:
I would be extremely interested in finding a copy of both the samskrutham original as well as the Telugu version. I did manage to find a version in Telugu different from the 1972-73 nondetailed book, from Vetapalem library but it was very disappointing as it was a retelling that completely obscured the voice of Ganga Devi.

I will be happy to contribute towards the costs of this effort.

KLNMurthy-ji,
I have the copyright expired Sanskrit original in soft copy (pdf). Happy to send a copy to you if you so desire. But it is the barebones original-no translation/vyakhyana whatsoever,

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 Dec 2014 07:59

nageshks wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote:
I would be extremely interested in finding a copy of both the samskrutham original as well as the Telugu version. I did manage to find a version in Telugu different from the 1972-73 nondetailed book, from Vetapalem library but it was very disappointing as it was a retelling that completely obscured the voice of Ganga Devi.

I will be happy to contribute towards the costs of this effort.
KLNMurthy-ji,
I have the copyright expired Sanskrit original in soft copy (pdf). Happy to send a copy to you if you so desire. But it is the barebones original-no translation/vyakhyana whatsoever,

Nageshks garu, I would be thrilled to get your pdf; my Samskritam knowledge is very very modest but I don't mind struggling through it. My email id is brf dot murthy at gmail dot com

Many thanks

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 02 Dec 2014 08:07

KLNMurthy wrote:
matrimc wrote:ramana and nagehsKS garlu: do you want me to post the rest of the list and a couple from Bapiraju? Is theinterest from the publisher still there?
I don't know if it was already mentioned but Gona Ganna Reddy is another exciting historical thriller by Bapiraju garu, set in Rani Rudramma's time. Would make a great movie.

It is non-detailed text for me during college.

Ramana and nagesh -
http://www.telugusahityam.com/2010/08/g ... iraju.html
All the novels, write-ups of Bapiraju garu is in that link. If you have problems to read Telugu script let me know. I will put in English alphabet here.

The difference in the style between Adavi Bapiraju and Vishwanatha Satyanarayana is telling someone "I think you are doing right" Vs "shouting "you are a scoundrel". Once should read how they criticize Buddhism in their novel to get the point. I think in one chapter of veyipadagalu, (I believe) Vishwanatha goes ballasitic and write a very detailed logic of "no barber no Buddhism".

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 Dec 2014 08:18

nageshks wrote:
KLNMurthy-ji,
I have the copyright expired Sanskrit original in soft copy (pdf). Happy to send a copy to you if you so desire. But it is the barebones original-no translation/vyakhyana whatsoever,

Me too pls... Ramay dot brf at gokulnatha!

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 02 Dec 2014 08:19

KLNMurthy wrote: Nageshks garu, I would be thrilled to get your pdf; my Samskritam knowledge is very very modest but I don't mind struggling through it. My email id is brf dot murthy at gmail dot com

Many thanks

Sent, KLNMurthy-ji. It is 13.5MB, so hopefully you got it without it being mutliated.

Sent to you as well RamaY-ji.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 Dec 2014 09:40

nageshks wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote: Nageshks garu, I would be thrilled to get your pdf; my Samskritam knowledge is very very modest but I don't mind struggling through it. My email id is brf dot murthy at gmail dot com

Many thanks
Sent, KLNMurthy-ji. It is 13.5MB, so hopefully you got it without it being mutliated.

Sent to you as well RamaY-ji.

Thank you very much.

I took a quick look. Far from not having any commentary, it has a fine scholarly introduction and a synopsis of the work in English. I skimmed through it with a heavy heart. First, the description of lost palm leaves, eaten by insects makes me realize how much we have lost through sheer carelessness in not valuing and preserving our heritage.

Second, looking at the scholarship and erudition of the editor Sri Harihara Sastry, and his casual assumption that every reader is able to read and understand SanskRtam as well as discern the poetic qualities, shows me how far we, the educated classes, have fallen since the period of Sri Harihara Sastry (1916 or so). We have so-called advanced degrees from fine institutions and high education but are nowhere capable of communicating on equal footing with educated persons of 3-4 generations back. That tells me that our degeneration is a recent thing. How is it that, in a modern age when everyone is shouting about gender equality, we as a culture are not proudly celebrating the achievement of an obviously brilliant woman like Princess Ganga Devi?

Rising out of this state, even to get to the cultural and intellectual standard of our great-grandparents, let alone exceeding them, will take a tremendous effort on our part.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 02 Dec 2014 10:06

Muppalla wrote: It is non-detailed text for me during college.

Ramana and nagesh -
http://www.telugusahityam.com/2010/08/g ... iraju.html
All the novels, write-ups of Bapiraju garu is in that link. If you have problems to read Telugu script let me know. I will put in English alphabet here.

Thanks very much, Muppalla-ji. Can read Telugu just fine, so no problem. As an aside, one of the first Sanskrit presses in India (Nirnaya Sagara Press owned by Ramaswamy Shastrilu), didn't print in Devanagari script, but in Telugu script. My great grandparents had a ton of Sanskrit books in Telugu script that are still left to us. To read those, one needs Telugu script (and the press did not remotely have the neat letters of today)

The difference in the style between Adavi Bapiraju and Vishwanatha Satyanarayana is telling someone "I think you are doing right" Vs "shouting "you are a scoundrel". Once should read how they criticize Buddhism in their novel to get the point. I think in one chapter of veyipadagalu, (I believe) Vishwanatha goes ballasitic and write a very detailed logic of "no barber no Buddhism".

Thanks, Muppalla-garu. Very interesting indeed.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 02 Dec 2014 18:42

Madhura-vijayam at this link link .
You can find pdf on clicking "PDF" on the left ( to its right, size 13.0M is displayed).
Same copy can be read online here: link .

Some other links that are not as useful:
Link 1 , Link 2 , Link 3 , Link 4 .

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 07 Dec 2014 20:29

To all folks who helped in compiling the lists of books to be translated, a very big thank you from me. In particular, Ramana-ji, and Muppalla-ji - my genuine thanks.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 08 Dec 2014 03:17

I hardly did anything. All the work others and you did...

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 22 Dec 2014 04:06

Six months over since the formation of the state, but there is absolutely no signs of fulfilling any promises made by the central govt to the truncated state. None of the promises of funds for capital city, polavaram, railway zone, or special tax status is anywhere on the horizon. Since there is no constitutional guarantee for any of these, as we were afraid from the beginning, these became mere political promises. Considering what happened to the other three states that formed before Telangana, there is no surprise here. But people hoped that it would be different this time due to the alliance between TDP and BJP. Those hopes are also shattered as BJP doesn't need TDP's help in the center.

Now the rumor is that BJP is trying to change the political equation in Telangana and AP. Few News channels reported that behind the scenes, TRS is negotiating an alliance with BJP. According to this, BJP would dump TDP and go solo in AP while they start an alliance with TRS. Some of these rumors could be wishful thinking by TRS, but BJP dumping TDP on both sides makes lot of sense. BJP, playing second fiddle to TDP, has absolutely no future in AP. The BJP T unit, led by Kishen Reddy and Dattatreya were begging for this for a long time. Ultimately more bad news for AP and don't expect any serious move on these promises. I'm sure we will be discussing these beyond 2019 elections.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Dec 2014 05:39

KCR keen to mend ties with BJP

http://www.telugupeople.com/news/articl ... th_BJP.asp

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Dec 2014 08:09

Dasari (and mods): May be it is time to split the thread into two - TG and AP. (are you related to the famous director DNR and from pAlakollu?)

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Dec 2014 08:13

Why Saar? So AP people can complain that T-people don't post on their thread & vice-versa?
Already we have enough divisions where a non-Tamil commenting on Tamil-politics lead to post reporting???

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Dec 2014 08:42

I will be personally very disappointed if NM do not full fill his promise to AP. He personally assured AP voters that he will not abandon them.

Gurus can mail me at rlnarayanarao at the rate gmail for PDF Books I have.

I am looking for YarranShetty Said books like Ammayee or Ammaayee etc. Great novels written by him which are full of fun and many are quite serious.

One more writer is Kondavalaganti (?) Kutumba Rao whose short stories etc are classics.

Is there anyone who can spend some reasonable money to get lot of docs scanned. My friend has informed me that one of the rural libraries in Guntus district has lot of old magazines like Krishna Patrika. Needs money to get them all scanned.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Dec 2014 10:57

koDavaganTi kuTumba rAu

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Dec 2014 12:14

matrimc wrote:koDavaganTi kuTumba rAu

Yes. That is the name. His books are getting printed once again. May be available in Vijayawada.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 25 Dec 2014 02:34

RamaY wrote:Why Saar?

Ray tracing to see who is lurking in this here thread.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 25 Dec 2014 08:03

CBN promises Christian Bhavan in Guntur, reservations for Dalit Christians & financial assistance to visit Holy Jerusalem

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... IHyderabad

Of course, KCR had preceded CBN with his own Christian Bhavan (in Hyderabad?)
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/t ... 705134.ece

How do our resident Telugu Gurus interpret these developments?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 25 Dec 2014 08:31

^ growing vote bank of Christians & the inroads they made. It is a clusterF in andhra & telangana.

Muppala garu didn't believe the % of Christians increased to 16%, but all indications suggest otherwise.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 25 Dec 2014 08:39

RamaY wrote:^ growing vote bank of Christians & the inroads they made. It is a clusterF in andhra & telangana.

Muppala garu didn't believe the % of Christians increased to 16%, but all indications suggest otherwise.

What is the percentage in AP now? And in Telangana?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 25 Dec 2014 08:40

No one knows for sure. But my guesstimate is >15% in both states.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 25 Dec 2014 09:17

I think that, i.e. RamaY's - is a fair guess. There are some on the verge of becoming chrisitian, if not formally then in thought.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Dec 2014 20:20

RamaY wrote:No one knows for sure. But my guesstimate is >15% in both states.

but <20% overall. That is the max it will be taking all exaggerations as converted.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Dec 2014 20:22

nageshks wrote:CBN promises Christian Bhavan in Guntur, reservations for Dalit Christians & financial assistance to visit Holy Jerusalem

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... IHyderabad

Of course, KCR had preceded CBN with his own Christian Bhavan (in Hyderabad?)
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/t ... 705134.ece

How do our resident Telugu Gurus interpret these developments?

CBN is see the writing on the wall. He is trying to build a new coalition for 2019 as plan-B. It will be Kammas+converted+assorted castes as BJP is taking over all Hindu forward castes plus OBCs. CBN is insecure. If he starts anti-Modi, his end starts too fast.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 25 Dec 2014 21:33

^+1. Forgot this dimension.