Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Dec 2014 08:08

NSA Shri Ajit Doval on his experience in Lahore during spying

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 08 Dec 2014 08:10

Gagan wrote:Djinna was neither Shia nor Sunni, but Muslim !
AoA

Pakistanis displaying their Pakistaniyat even back in 1955

djinna is like a jagged bone stuck painfully in the paki throat, it can neither be swallowed nor spat out.

A shia contamination / abomination in an otherwise pristine sunni paradise onlee.

A pork eating, non praying, cigar smoking and whiskey swilling example of the true paki.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Dec 2014 08:12

Harami Gul praised Narendra Modi during a tv interview calling him honest. Harami Gul says, Narendra modi may have lots of flaws but he is honest.
Now why is Haramzada Gul praising NaMo?

Because Harami has a trucking business, wants entry into India via wahag for his trucking business.
Recently he was crying that these Indians don't allow Pakistani trucks to cross over, that cement bags are unloaded and carried over into india, bag by bag on porters.

Gul wants trucks to enter India for two reasons:
1. So that he can send explosives, drugs into india hidden in his trucks
2. Make some money.

Hence this praise.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 08 Dec 2014 08:19

No, he is doing it because he thinks Modi is the polar opposite (i.e. the Hindu equivalent) of him and his ilk in the military/political sphere. Therefore, with his delusions of grandeur, this vain fool thinks Modi may feel the same way. In the next decade, if this evil primate continues to live, he will get an instructive lesson on the differences.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 08 Dec 2014 08:22

Gagan wrote:NSA Shri Ajit Doval on his experience in Lahore during spying

LOL Thanks for posting

For those who don't follow Hindi- the story is of Doval living as a Muslim in Pakistan. He emerges from a religious gathering one day and is called out to by a bearded "holy man" who tells him you are Hindu. Doval denies this - so the man takes him to a small room and tells him "Your ear is pierced - only Hindus do that" Doval says that it happened when he was a child but he converted later. The man says - not you are not a convert either and says that he too is a Hindu, and reveals a cupboard where he places moortis for prayer. The man says that his entire family was massacred and that he now lives on in Pakistan looking almost like a mullah, but remains a hindu and is happy to see people like Doval.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Dec 2014 08:36

Gagan wrote:Harami Gul praised Narendra Modi during a tv interview calling him honest. Harami Gul says, Narendra modi may have lots of flaws but he is honest.
Now why is Haramzada Gul praising NaMo?

he is a big fan of Imdim and Imdim said that in a rally. The ocassion was the Indian govt deciding to reveal lichtenstein a/c holders, Imdim's apprx words were ..

Narender Modi ke baare mein jo bhee kaho .. lekin yeh aadmi imaandar hain.

he was comparing Modi to Nawaz Sharif.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Dec 2014 08:50

Randibaaz praising Modi's reception in Sydney and New York. and Cursing Nawaz sharif.

Big question: Why do these Pakis hate Nawaz so much? Specially the young, do these idiots even know why? These copycats and photochor youth of Pakistan, good-for-nothings want a revolution in Pakistan, just because there was a revolution in Tunisia, Libiya, Egypt and Syria.

As expected their Pindi chana gas was soon deflated by Badmash lying low and riding it out. All the farting that the Pindi Jernails did ended up creating only a lot of stink, no bum blast

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 08 Dec 2014 08:56

xpost:
Interesting to see:

Leading Pakistani Scientist (Nobel prize winner- Dr. Abdus Salam) Effusively Praising Great Indian Nuclear Physicist Dr. Homi Bhabha.

This is from United Nations Conference on the Peaceful Uses of Atomic Energy, held in 1955. He calls Dr. Bhabha a "Supremo", "Great Wizard", terms his speech "electrifying"..

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Dec 2014 10:17

SSridhar wrote:The terrorist attack is certainly and only related to the on-going elections in J&K. There can be no doubt about this. No force on earth can influence Pakistan when it comes to J&K.

However, the lacklustre condemnation from the US, is linked to Putin's visit. Clearly, the US is unhappy with India and is showing it up this way. The US which pokes its nose even on minor incidents would not have been so lukewarm otherwise when multiple major incidents threaten an otherwise peaceful and largely attended poll, a historic fact.

Maybe that is one of the reasons, there was never a principal that that there couldn't be 2 major factors for a terrorist attack.

From studying mainstream Pakistani society esp pakjabi society it is clear to me that there is no stomach for war with India over there. We need to investigate thoroughly how US moles like David Headley/Dawood Gilani are intertwined with LeT operations. The LeT as a fully outsourced wing of TSPA, which even has dwindling street cred in Pakistan will commit to an attack on J&K only when USA gives them the green light.

We need to start correlating major terrorist events timeline with corresponding state of India-US relations. It is not far fetched to think that USA has moles within LeT through it's contacts with ISI that encourage or offer financial incentives to strike at India when they feel going is tight or to achieve certain geo-political goals.

Furthermore the casualness of it all is striking, and the pakjabi decision-makers are not a casual people. They would study all the consequences of their actions if they had to go it all alone. There is a tie-up at some level in their anti-India moves.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 08 Dec 2014 10:33

Anujan wrote: Also kudos to Pakis in trying to make a karachi out of london. ... Londonistan.

when we were kids "urgently going to London" would have meant "urgently going to pakistan" in the parlance of the BRF youth of today. In both cases inner londoniyat/Pakistaniyat wil be excreted into London/pakistan through Musharraf.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 08 Dec 2014 10:41

A_Gupta wrote:
“Why does not this nation and its leaders understand the nuances of this ‘Designer war’ heaped upon India by Pakistan since 1989? Unfortunately, even most military minds, both serving and retired, have failed to understand the reality of this war. It has nothing to do with 'Law and Order'; it is war, Sir!"
There are two things - that it is a war; and how the war is waged. How the war is waged - there can be a lot of debate. But that it is a war cannot be debated, and all the WKKs and Track II morons and such need to be treated as those who treat with the enemy in a time of war.

Exactly. They need to be hauled up for anti national activities.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Dec 2014 11:29

Look at the pathetic editorial from The Hindu, Complex Challenge in Kashmir

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 08 Dec 2014 11:43

The worst part of the terror attack is that the TSP is back at the center of the agenda for BRF.

khan · Post by **khan** » 08 Dec 2014 12:05

IMO all the hand wringing over the terror strikes is overblown.

To me all this takleef is a sign of how far we have come. It wasn't too long ago strikes like this were much more common and the response much less competent.

There is no doubt in my mind Mr. Doval will respond - disproportionately

He will definately not do it until the elections are over and he might wait until after
Republic day (Obama's visit), but a response there will be!!!

This handwringing is premature at best and unnecessary at worst.

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Dec 2014 12:29

http://www.dawn.com/news/1149548/severa ... faisalabad

Several injured as PTI, PML-N supporters clash in Faisalabad

Looks serious. Could this be badmash's "deny landing permission to army chief after sacking him" moment of his third term in office?

Regarding 1999 coup, dafaq was badmash thinking when he ordered his boss to divert his plane and land in, of all places, India?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Dec 2014 13:02

^^^
Faisalabad match.
Is it a one day or a 5 day test match?
Faisala is needed indeed.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Dec 2014 13:57

habal wrote:Maybe that is one of the reasons, there was never a principal that that there couldn't be 2 major factors for a terrorist attack.

habal saheb, you are right and I am not saying that either, except in the present case. None can disagree with you on the deep nexus between Pakistan's top-benefactor for six decades and its 'Establishment', which has always given grief to India. However, my point is Pakistan would have always acted in exactly the same way it has done in recent days and weeks because J&K is the jugular vein and it is etched in granite and imprinted in its DNA. It would not have toned down had either the U.S. Or China had indeed asked it to do so in the unlikeliest event. An election in J&K and that too one in which the cliched 'Hindu nationalist' party has a good chance is too much to bear. At the most, the U.S. might have shown a benign neglect even if it was aware of some operational details, or as it did eventually, issued a condemnation which was a non-event. The U.S. non-condemnation and the excuse it offered that it was not fully aware, IMHO, carry a message, no doubt. Until now, we have not seen a forthright condemnation. This is linked to Russia and perhaps Iran too. Now, Obama's visit in 7 week's time becomes even more untenable, again IMHO.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 08 Dec 2014 14:38

Gagan wrote:Harami Gul praised Narendra Modi during a tv interview calling him honest. Harami Gul says, Narendra modi may have lots of flaws but he is honest.
Now why is Haramzada Gul praising NaMo?

Because Harami has a trucking business, wants entry into India via wahag for his trucking business.
Recently he was crying that these Indians don't allow Pakistani trucks to cross over, that cement bags are unloaded and carried over into india, bag by bag on porters.

Gul wants trucks to enter India for two reasons:
1. So that he can send explosives, drugs into india hidden in his trucks
2. Make some money.

Hence this praise.

More than that it is Taqiyya, Pakis will never openly state that they hate a BJP regime, they know that weakens INC and strengthens BJP. They will always try and do BJP better for them.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 08 Dec 2014 14:48

partha wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1149548/severa ... faisalabad
Several injured as PTI, PML-N supporters clash in Faisalabad
Looks serious. Could this be badmash's "deny landing permission to army chief after sacking him" moment of his third term in office?

Regarding 1999 coup, dafaq was badmash thinking when he ordered his boss to divert his plane and land in, of all places, India?

Quite frankly that was a false flag operation. The Pakistani Army had planned the coupe, I would bet my bottom dollar the whole thing was rehearsed and the ATC was dictating and Pilot with extra fuel acting his part.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 08 Dec 2014 16:50

Crack II diplomacy goes on as if nothing has happened?

"Uninterrupted and uninterruptible" : https://twitter.com/MallikaJoseph/statu ... 16/photo/1

member_28233 · Post by **member_28233** » 08 Dec 2014 17:52

Thanks to pankajs for finding this gem --it needs a wider viewership. It is the NSA expounding on Kashmir, Pakistan, & Indian failings in dealing with both of them, with potential solutions. Some highlights:

[*]He talks of Defensive-Offence: How India should not be reactive only and what it can do
[*]How India should have, in 1947, taken back all of Kashmir and then *punished* Pakistan for its aggression
[*]How 370 is a self-inflicted wound. And how the Congress/UPA allowed Omar Abdullah to get away with saying the act of union was not complete.
[*]How Pakistan, a failing state, extracts maximum benefit from being a global nuisance, especially after acquiring nuclear weapons
[*]How India has neglected and marginalised Kashmiri Pandits, and what use they can be to the nation in this imbroglio

View all the parts, well worth the effort. If time is restricted, then view from part 3 onwards. If his views, insights, and clear sighted formulations don't please jingos, then I don't know what will. India is in the best of hands.

x-posting from the J&K thread from Nov. 5th

pankajs wrote:What will be the BJP's policy after J&K elections? Lets find out what Doval ji thinks of the J&K issue. What role does he see the Kashmiri Pandits play in the Kashmir.

Social Cause Seminar on Kashmir - Speaker Sri K Ajit Doval IB-1/6

Social Cause Seminar on Kashmir - Speaker Sri K Ajit Doval IB-2/6

Social Cause Seminar on Kashmir - Speaker Sri K Ajit Doval IB-3/6

Social Cause Seminar on Kashmir - Speaker Sri K Ajit Doval IB-4/6

Social Cause Seminar on Kashmir - Speaker Sri K Ajit Doval IB-5/6

Social Cause Seminar on Kashmir - Speaker Sri K Ajit Doval IB-1/6

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 08 Dec 2014 18:55

Guys, any news about ModiJi's rally in Srinagar, J&K, India? It seems to me that media is quite subdued which means one of 2 things to me: 1) Turnout wasn't as good as expected, or 2) TSP and its valley proxies have succeeded in muzzling our media, recall, PDP filth were saying media hype pissed TSP off so their terror attack is justified (I am paraphrasing).

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 08 Dec 2014 19:07

^^ PM Modi's rally in Srinagar, J&K, India is not meant to be discussed on the STFUP thread.

Explanation: it is an entirely Indian affair, and has nothing to do with Pakistan.

dsreedhar · Post by **dsreedhar** » 08 Dec 2014 23:52

Good speech by Ajit Doval. We need a change to Indian mindset (especially hindu) from appeasement to a fight for what is justly ours and pay more importance to national security.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 09 Dec 2014 03:59

Good article by Cyril in dawn. He makes an interesting point. An irrelevant terrorist organization is a dead terrorist organization. LeT needs to demostrate its relevance again and again by conducting terror strikes. And paki army is driven by a mixture of fear of LeT, patronage and affinity for LeT and hate for India. This is not going to change any time soon.

The loudmouth wannabe chicken hawk wajahat regards terrorism as legitimate tool and wants everyone to move on. India should then consider all forms of retaliation as legitimate tool and ask the world to move on.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 09 Dec 2014 04:16

Anujan:

The loudmouth wannabe chicken hawk wajahat regards terrorism as legitimate tool and wants everyone to move on. India should then consider all forms of retaliation as legitimate tool and ask the world to move on.

Totally. The paki oiseaules can provide perfect plausible deniability if the anti-Paki army "bad taliban" gain strength -- proactively assisting the bad taliban would be a good tactic for India to retain this deniability. The paki mofos will whine about India aiding bad taliban but it is not like they are not doing so already. Allowing the "bad taliban" to wither is bad news for India.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 09 Dec 2014 06:13

http://soodvikram.blogspot.com/2014/12/ ... happy.html

"It is not always possible or compulsory to have cordial relations with ones neighbours; a nodding acquaintance and staying out of each other’s way is perfectly acceptable. So with nations."

Why should India only hope for Pakistan to stay out of India's way? obviously that is not pakistan's intent. Pakistan should be allowed to grind itself down to dust with its self-defeating policies, and as long as the worthless rat #$%^s in the US state dept. keep funding the Pakistani army, that is not about to happen. The mofos protect terrorists and fund them year after year, clearly a "strategic glide path" or whatever cr@p Strobe Talbott was mouthing a decade ago...only that the direction of the glide is bound to be downward as long as the US funds terrorism in pakistan, deliberately and with malice.

Also, it is strange that ex-raw chief thinks that it is only Cashmere as a single point agenda is what is hurting relations with Pakis...surely he should know better. Really need to start watching Sri Lanka and Nepal, Myanmar, and Bangladesh instead of this worthless sh*thole of a wannabe nation on India's western border.

arun · Post by **arun** » 09 Dec 2014 06:56

Better sooner than later that wisdom has dawned on Punjabi University given that it was the 24 Punjab Regiment, amongst others, who suffered fatalities in the attacks linked to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in Jammu and Kashmir over the past few days.

Organizers of this Mohammadden Conference must now carry out a thorough investigation to find individuals who issued the invitation to Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and others from there and remove them from the organizing committee

But then again if our Army has been quiescent about inflicting retribution for the fatalities suffered and has not even claimed giving a “befitting reply”, perhaps organizers of the Mohammadden Conference should not have revoked the invitation.

That then leaves our BJP Government led by 56 inch chest Prime Minister Modi who appears to be equiescent as well and thus also suggesting perhaps organizers of the Mohammadden Conference should not have revoked the invitation. Looks like this attack is going the way of our countries reaction to the attack on our consulate in Herat during the days of wnen our Prime Ministers Mr. Modi was Prime Minister designate:

Organisers of Sufi Conference Cancel Invitation to Pakistani Delegation Following Kashmir Terror Attacks

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 09 Dec 2014 07:06

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sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 09 Dec 2014 08:13

^^ That mullah is so apt a metaphor for Pakistan-when he thinks he is off camera he pulls off the pious Muslim mask, is irreverent, sings, loves Indian movies, uses hardly an Urdu lafz (word) and in fact seems to be a fun loving, likeable hypocrite.

Without the mask, he shows his Hinduness.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 09 Dec 2014 09:00

We need a MEMRI like website to translate these fu(kers... The bit I could get out of it were only the cusswords, which I'm fluent in.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 09 Dec 2014 13:05

An essay on Junaid Jamshed's misogyny:
http://nation.com.pk/columns/09-Dec-201 ... al-illness

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 09 Dec 2014 13:06

http://www.hindustantimes.com/technolog ... 94548.aspx

Micro-blogging site Twitter suspended terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) founder and Mumbai terror attack mastermind Hafiz Saeed's Twitter account on Monday for violating its policies following pressure from the US government, senior government sources told Hindustan Times.

Saeed, who has been on Twitter for over two years, had been tweeting under the handle @HafizSaeedJUD, or Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), an organisation created after the US government declared the LeT a terrorist organisation. While the main JuD handle was suspended, two other handles related to the JuD -- Falah-e-Insaniat Foundation (FiF) and JuD Arabic -- continued to operate.

The US government, already grappling with growing evidence of fundamentalist groups using social media to recruit for militant groups such as Islamic State, decided to increase pressure for the suspension of the account, sources said.

"We have had some discussions with the US during our bilateral talks with the US on the presence of elements inimical to Indian interests, but we never discussed a suspension," a senior Indian security official told HT. "We have received information through informal channels that the US government worked with Twitter for the suspension."

According to the official, the US worked on the suspension unilaterally and convinced Twitter to shut down Saeed's account. This was confirmed by at least two other security officials.

Twitter India declined to comment on the suspension. "We do not comment on individual accounts, for privacy and security reasons. We do not proactively monitor content on the platform. We review all reported accounts against our rules, which prohibit direct, specific threats of violence against others," said the official Twitter India spokeperson.

The Twitter account was suspended days after Saeed told supporters Pakistanis should come forward and help the Kashmiris in getting "freedom" from India. His comments followed a string of militant attacks in Kashmir, including one on an army camp in Uri that led to the deaths of several Indian security personnel.

Describing himself as the Ameer of the JuD, Saeed frequently abused the Indian government on his Twitter handle. When Prime Minister Narendra Modi addressed the United Nations general assembly recently, Saeed took to Twitter to abuse India's statements. The JuD was banned as a terrorist front organisation after the Mumbai attacks through a UNSC resolution.

habal · Post by **habal** » 09 Dec 2014 13:22

pakistan paindabad .. watch mard-e-momins in action after 3:56 upto 4:56

2 motormas being harassed at PTI-rally in lyallpur. Juicy pickings for friendless & frustrated mujahids. So much that even a 'maulvi' wants share in action. The dude in a scarf is a 'maulvi'.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 09 Dec 2014 18:14

An Backrubi (short for Baki Arabi) trying to become Indian.
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/raza-habib ... 39658.html

I am the heir to the same great Indus valley civilization and I have the same claim to India as those who belong to modern political India. It is this common great heritage, underpinned by the idea of India independent of political configurations, which unites me with those who live in the present political entity of India. It is our common heritage irrespective of our different political and for that matter even cultural differences( because India has many subcultures which differ substantially from each other).

What happened to dustbin kasem or even the central Asian steppes, hainji? Not good enough for you? Is "India" the new sooth asia? These guys would not waste time to appropriating any heritage that suits them. I am surprised these parasites haven't claimed Han heritage.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Dec 2014 18:22

Voting in URI 83% !!!! That is a very long middle finger pointing to the Pakis!

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 09 Dec 2014 20:15

saravana wrote:What happened to dustbin kasem or even the central Asian steppes, hainji? Not good enough for you? Is "India" the new sooth asia? These guys would not waste time to appropriating any heritage that suits them. I am surprised these parasites haven't claimed Han heritage.

There were some honest converts; and there were some opportunists. The people with the culture of opportunists will go with whomever is most powerful. Though these are precisely the people one doesn't want.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 09 Dec 2014 22:54

a few messages back there is some paki praising the legendary Indian nuclear scientist Dr. Homi Bhaha. How did that turn into international nuke black market, paint job and photochor circus, actual nuke testing & missile tests and then turning more green into terrorism under nuclear umbrella, concerns about nukes falling in hands of terrorists, etc.

No one shows off chori kaa maal like the paki does.