Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 28 Jan 2015 10:23

The MOFA statement if you observe closely uses words like "strategic stability in the subcontinent" , "Pakistan itself victim of terrorism" and so on. Pakis are remarkably consistent in reusing the same phrases over and over again. By pakis I mean their jernails, politicians, track 2'ers, "analysts", think tankers, journalists.

All of them not only say the same thing, but also use the same words to say it. This is quite remarkable.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Jan 2015 10:29

Anujan wrote:The MOFA statement if you observe closely uses words like "strategic stability in the subcontinent" , "Pakistan itself victim of terrorism" and so on. Pakis are remarkably consistent in reusing the same phrases over and over again. By pakis I mean their jernails, politicians, track 2'ers, "analysts", think tankers, journalists. All of them not only say the same thing, but also use the same words to say it. This is quite remarkable.

Its not only them , we have to watch who echoes same message on this side of Wagha.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 28 Jan 2015 10:58

Anujan wrote:The MOFA statement if you observe closely uses words like "strategic stability in the subcontinent" , "Pakistan itself victim of terrorism" and so on. Pakis are remarkably consistent in reusing the same phrases over and over again. By pakis I mean their jernails, politicians, track 2'ers, "analysts", think tankers, journalists.

All of them not only say the same thing, but also use the same words to say it. This is quite remarkable.

Are we sure pakis had written that statement? I couldn't find a single use of "...should realize" in it anywhere.

partha · Post by **partha** » 28 Jan 2015 11:18

Anujan wrote:All of them not only say the same thing, but also use the same words to say it. This is quite remarkable.

Right saar. I suspect it is all coordinated (by ISPR?). I remember during the height of recent LoC tensions, every Paki was saying the same thing on Internet, Indian TV channels, Pak op-eds etc and that was "Why will Pakistan forces start firing on the eastern front when the army is busy with operation zarb-e-zamzam on western front?".

partha · Post by **partha** » 28 Jan 2015 11:36

KLNMurthy wrote:
partha wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1159463/pakist ... gic-vision

Blow to H&D. Pakis reduced to having to closely read India-US pacts to feel good about themselves by making assumptions which may or may not be true.
The logic of the paki mind is that India and the US desperately need strategically located bakistan for their agenda, therefore bakistan can and should demand bissful settlement of cashmere, otherwise the southasia will remain poor and riddled with terrorism and bolio.

Pakjabi businessmen have a plan - take advantage of growing Indian economy and prosper. They have realized, with their economy going down Pakistan, they are losing H&D and also negotiating power in settling disputes (not that they want to resolve the disputes) especially Kashmir. Hence they are desperate to restore some H&D even if they have to acknowledge Indian economic might and integrate economically with India. I think this is why badmash has been trying hard to make the trade relations better. Did he not write a letter to Modi wishing for Republic Day? This, after India canceled talks causing them great takleef.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 28 Jan 2015 12:38

shiv wrote:
sudhan wrote:Teachers get guns in Al-Backistan. Brilliant! This just cannot go horribly wrong"
This has got to be bullshit propagandu onlee.

Many of those wimmens are flouting basic safety norms and I am happy to be far faar away from them. In the first image - not only does the wimmen in green have her finger firmly on the trigger - she also has a thumb in a place where it will get cut off when the sliding casing ejector shoots back with every shot.

In other fotoos wimmens are merrily hooking their fingers over the trigger and act that should be done only when you are ready to shoot

The lady in green (with yellow hood) is kinda committing a lot of safety no-nos. Not only does she have her thumb in the wrong spot with the pistol, her finger tips also appear to be in the wrong spot when she's handing the AK. Plus, in the pic at the bottom, she's not really looking through the sights even though she has one eye closed. Incidentally, note that none of those handling the AK have a magazine inserted (a very wise decision indeed!), given that trigger discipline is pretty much non-existent in many of the pics and they don't seem to care where they're pointing muzzles anyway. By the way, the AK appears to be a much used and abused Chinese made type-56 actually. Guess they don't trust local made-in-pakistan goods that much.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 28 Jan 2015 12:42

Prem Kumar wrote:
sudhan wrote:Pawki gets spooked, probably browned his shalwars

Guess he really missed his coach..
Sohail had one too many Djinn & Tonic before going to bed

May be the IED that Afridi hit in Sohail's kit bag went off

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Jan 2015 12:46

Anujan wrote: . . .All of them not only say the same thing, but also use the same words to say it. This is quite remarkable.

This remarkableness comes from the adhering to a religious fervour where they simply have to approach everything with a closed mind and simply repeat whatever is being said. They cannot question anything because it then becomes blasphemous. This is one bonus(?) for Pakistan for defining the problems between India & Pakistan in religious terms. Pakistan would consider that as a benefit because unlike in India, where some people question even a routine interception of a terror boat on high seas by the CG. We are at the other end of the spectrum.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 28 Jan 2015 13:00

Mahendra wrote: quote="Prem Kumar"
sudhan wrote:Pawki gets spooked, probably browned his shalwars

Guess he really missed his coach..
Sohail had one too many Djinn & Tonic before going to bed /quote

May be the IED that Afridi hit in Sohail's kit bag went off

Now if NZ actually has one of their famous tremors and bakis will start traveling with a djinn proof maulaner or two in addition to the team beards. Or take this as a sign they shouldnt travel to haram lands.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 28 Jan 2015 13:43

Patni wrote:
Pakistan aircraft denied landing in Capital

As per linked report the original paki request was for landing at Delhi (VIDP) but We refused as POTUS was in town and we being beliver of Atithi DevoBhava didnt want to let paki stink up delhi air and so was denied permission to land in delhi and so went to lucknow it seems.

Pakistanis were trying to listen in on Obama and Modi?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Jan 2015 14:14

ArmenT wrote: Incidentally, note that none of those handling the AK have a magazine inserted (a very wise decision indeed!), given that trigger discipline is pretty much non-existent in many of the pics and they don't seem to care where they're pointing muzzles anyway.

Absolutely. Of course even without the magazine one cannot tell if there is one round in the chamber - which is why trigger discipline is a must.

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 28 Jan 2015 14:31

Daily dose of Self-delusion from across the baarder

Don't worry, Supapowah Al-porkisatan has not forgotten you! India an important neighbour for us: Nawaaz

Now those dark skinned Bhindians will rest easy in their narrow dark temples..

Speaking to Pakistan’s High Commissioner to India Abdul Basit, the premier said the country would like to have normal relations with India on basis of mutual respect and sovereign equality.

and here goes the pawki again.. Sovereign and Suarinity

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 28 Jan 2015 14:38

Meanwhile in the greener lands of Al-Porkistan..

IS names ex-TTP man as regional chief

Some quality talent hunting being done by ISIS

Always on the look out for the right skills

Looks like ISIS has thrown its hat in the already crowded dark green belt. They should promptly declare the uniformed jihadis haram and start landing kicks ups their musharaffs... They should also sent out an open invite for rage-poys from around the world to come to al-porkistan and engage in pure green activities..

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Jan 2015 16:31

Americans notice Pakistani khujli.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2015 ... irritation

Obama's visit this week to Pakistan's much larger, more prosperous and more important neighbor was always destined to grate on Pakistani nerves. A sense of pique hangs in the foggy winter air.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Jan 2015 16:33

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/28/world ... .html?_r=0

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — In an unusually critical statement, a senior Pakistani official said that Pakistan remained opposed to India’s inclusion in the Nuclear Suppliers Group and feared that the country’s growing nuclear cooperation with the United States could harm deterrence efforts in South Asia.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Jan 2015 16:33

sudhan wrote:Meanwhile in the greener lands of Al-Porkistan..

IS names ex-TTP man as regional chief

This is at least two or three weeks old news. I thought there was probably a change of guard, but no. I don't know why Express Tribune has published this as a new one.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Jan 2015 16:35

http://nation.com.pk/national/27-Jan-20 ... to-paf-ccs

SARGODHA - JF-17 Thunder, the multi-role and all-weather fighter aircraft, was formally inducted into the prestigious Combat Commanders’ School (CCS) of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) here on Monday.

The induction of this indigenous war fighting machine will further facilitate advanced combat training of PAF fighter pilots.

Deputy Chief of the Air Staff (Operations) Air Marshal Sohail Aman was the chief guest on the occasion.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Jan 2015 16:37

Morgan Stanley snake oil.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/828679/shif ... n-stanley/

KARACHI:

Pakistan is located in a region that will bring major changes in the world economy in coming decades primarily due to its demographics.

With over 100 million people below the age of 30 aspiring to change their lives, the rise of Pakistan is just a matter of time, Morgan Stanley Chief Investment Strategist David M Darst said on Tuesday.

“Demographics will play a major role in coming decades. Pakistan is among those nine countries in Asia that will add another China in the next 35 years and the impact of this change will be phenomenal on the world economy,” he said while giving a lecture on “The World Economic Environment: Where’s the Global Capital Going”.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Jan 2015 16:40

http://blogs.blouinnews.com/blouinbeatb ... omic-zone/

The specter of violence already prompted Pakistan and China to alter the original route of the CPEC to avoid most of Baluchistan and the tribal areas, instead transiting largely through Punjab (coincidentally Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s province). If Chinese investments and personnel do become prime targets in the Gwadar SEZ — and Pakistan is unable to stop attacks — then the project has no future.

member_28921 · Post by **member_28921** » 28 Jan 2015 16:41

Jhujar wrote:92 suspected militants killed in strikes
Baki Trying best to Get Attention. Terri Rah Mey Kharre Hai Begging Bowl Thaam Ke,Deja Khairaat Allah Ke Naam Se

ESHAWAR: Seventy-six suspected militants were killed in North Waziristan and 16 in Khyber Agency when planes pounded their hideouts in the two volatile regions on Tuesday, the military said.
“In a precise aerial strike in Dattakhel area of North Waziristan in the afternoon, 53 militants, including 12 foreigners, were killed. Six hideouts, an ammunition dump and seven explosives-laden vehicles were destroyed,” said an ISPR statement.The jet fighters targeted militants’ positions in Kharh Tangi, some 35km west of the agency headquarters of Miramshah. Most of the foreigners killed were Uzbeks, military sources said.In another strike in the same area later, 23 militants were killed, the ISPR claimed.Since the area is off-limits to journalists, it is difficult to independently verify the number and identity of the dead.The jets continued shelling for about one hour, inflicting heavy losses on the militants, sources said.The air strikes were carried out in Therkho Kas, Wacha Wana, Sra Vella and Nakai areas, near the Afghan border. The officials claimed that those killed belonged to the outlawed Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan and Lashkar-i-Islam. Six militant hideouts were destroyed in the strikes.

In the good old days, all they needed to do was pick up some unwashed apdul, name him Al-Q number 3. Looks like just as the Baki currency has fallen against the dollar, their other currency - terror - has also been devalued.

On another note, Baki Bilots must be really skilled - so much bombing and no collateral damage. No wonder they won the air war in 1971, 1965, 1948, 1917, 711 and so on...

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Jan 2015 16:47

Missed this - I don't think it was posted here.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015/01 ... -earliest/

Expressing displeasure over the federal and provincial governments for dragging their feet in holding fresh population census in the country, the Sindh High Court directed them to gear up efforts for holding the census within shortest possible time.

The court directed the Pakistan Bureau of Statistics (PBS) to make preparations for the census at the earliest as the same has been delayed inordinately.

A division bench headed by Chief Justice Maqbool Baqar had taken up a petition filed by Dr Muhammed Siddique Rathore, vice president of the Jamiat Ulema Pakistan (JUP), who moved the court seeking its directives for the respondents to hold population census in the province before holding local government elections.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 28 Jan 2015 18:23

There have been fresh droppings from the National Bird:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/828986/dron ... kills-six/

“A US drone fired two missiles at a compound and vehicle in Shawal area of North Waziristan, killing six terrorists,” a senior security official told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Pakistan, however, officially denounces the strikes as a violation of its sovereignty.
The area is generally off-limits to journalists, making it difficult to independently verify the number and identity of the dead.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Jan 2015 19:17

deejay wrote:There have been fresh droppings from the National Bird:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/828986/dron ... kills-six/

“A US drone fired two missiles at a compound and vehicle in Shawal area of North Waziristan, killing six terrorists,” a senior security official told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Pakistan, however, officially denounces the strikes as a violation of its sovereignty.
The area is generally off-limits to journalists, making it difficult to independently verify the number and identity of the dead.

These drones and their missiles seem to be very highly selective and bad guy pasand onlee. They seem to be hitting and taking out only terrorists, no mention of collateral damage ??

or is simply that whomsoever the drone takes out is automatically declared a terrorist, ipso facto??

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 28 Jan 2015 21:09

A_Gupta wrote:Missed this - I don't think it was posted here.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015/01 ... -earliest/

A_Gupta Ji :

A Census was held in 2011. However the Crapistani Leaders in Power decided for obvious reasons not to pulish the results. IMO the Population of Crapistan today should be in the vicinity 220 t0 225 Million.

Population shoots up by 47 percent since 1998

LAHORE: Balochistan witnessed the highest and the Punjab the lowest increase in population from 1998 to 2011, with the country's overall population shooting up to an alarming 46.9 percent.

However, with the inclusion of population of Azad Jammu and Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan, the population of the country would reach 197,361,691 in 2011 against 134,714,017 in 1998, showing an increase of 46.5 percent.

As far as population proportion is concerned, 13.99 percent of the total population of the country has been reported in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in 2011, 2.32 in Fata, 47.52 in the Punjab, 28.73 percent in Sindh, 6.85 percent in Balochistan and 0.60 percent in Islamabad

According to data, average household size has decreased from 6.9 in 1998 to 6.8 in 2011.The average of household size decreased from 7.0 to 6.6 in the Punjab, from 6.1 to 6.0 in Sindh.

Cheers

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 28 Jan 2015 21:20

Peregrine ji,

Baki population is on an exponential growth. That means it will grow by 60million in 5 years instead the 10 years it tookppreviously to grow by the same amount.

I.e. baki population should be about 260 million in 2017, 320million in 2020, 380 2022.....

We are looking at a very scary issue for all of humanity.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 28 Jan 2015 21:31

Nature will "fix" such over populated and regressive populations in its own brutal way -- these guys are basically back in the stone age and are vulnerable to a whole host of diseases, but that also makes them cheap cannon-fodder, which is the main problem countries like India will have to figure out. A tall wall to keep them out will do for a start.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Jan 2015 21:37

Peregrine wrote:
A Census was held in 2011. However the Crapistani Leaders in Power decided for obvious reasons not to pulish the results. IMO the Population of Crapistan today should be in the vicinity 220 t0 225 Million.

I don't think they actually did a complete census in 2011. Also I think it was the 2008 census that they tried to do in 2011. No full census has been done after 1998

News from 2013
http://dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/Pakist ... ensus-next

PM Nawaz directed all concerned departments to make arrangements for the holding of population census in all provinces in 2014. The directives were ordered following a reply to the letter of Election Commission.

The ECP had requested the PM to ensure population census next year. It also stated that census should be carried out after 10 years according to the constitution. The lack of a census could lead to raising questions about the transparency of general elections.

The ECP suggested that a census be held before the 2018 general elections in Pakistan in order to help ascertain the actual count of the population and the formation of electoral constituencies.

Population census was last held in Pakistan in 1998. At that time, the total population was estimated to be 130 million.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 28 Jan 2015 21:43

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 28 Jan 2015 21:47

What's the takleef in conducting a census?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Jan 2015 21:50

Anujan wrote:What's the takleef in conducting a census?

Money, organization, security.

disha · Post by **disha** » 28 Jan 2015 22:00

Anujan wrote:What's the takleef in conducting a census?

What happened to "polio eradication" efforts will happen to "census collectors". Large parts of Pakistan are no-go areas. In fact Bakistan has been reduced to a Pak-Sindh strip from Islamabad to Karachi with a tenous link to Quetta out of Sukkur. Infact even Peshawar is out of Bakistan's orbit.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 28 Jan 2015 22:02

Typical day in pakistan.
Geo news headlines from Oct 4 2014

Jeehard everywhere, only success in hockey field.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 28 Jan 2015 22:10

shiv wrote:
Anujan wrote:What's the takleef in conducting a census?
Money, organization, security.

I thought it was very cheap to calculate
Pakistan's population = f(Pakistan's GDP, India's GDP Per capita, echandee)

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 28 Jan 2015 22:25

Senator Tabaahi ‏@mahobili 39m39 minutes ago
After an abduction case in LUMS,students are not allowed to leave the campus alone. At least five people in group should leave.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 28 Jan 2015 23:32

Paul wrote:
Senator Tabaahi ‏@mahobili 39m39 minutes ago
After an abduction case in LUMS,students are not allowed to leave the campus alone. At least five people in group should leave.

Is that supposed to be the halal 'one mans, four wimmins' shariah rule?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 28 Jan 2015 23:51

The security part is one angle. I have read articles in paki news along the lines of "census as everyone knows is politically unacceptable". I didn't understand why it was politically unacceptable. That's why my question of the takleef with census. Here's an article for example from jihadi lodhi.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... sus-counts

Political parties are opposed to census and very vehemently so. I wonder what the game is.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 29 Jan 2015 00:03

Obviously accurate knowledge of the sectarian composition of Baki population may pose a prisoners dilemma like situation to the political parties who are largely split in those lines.

All of them assume the worse outcome for them once the public gets to know the reality and the safe position (they think) to take is to oppose the census and eradicate the census takers.

So PLM(N), PTI, blah-blah think they will lose out if census outs the real picture.

From the above article

The controversies that led to repeated postponement of the census have much to do with the share of national resources that provinces claim and with intra provincial ethnic rivalries. But the census should not become an enduring casualty of such contention precisely because it serves as the fundamental foundation for making resource allocations and evolving plans that square resources with public needs.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 29 Jan 2015 00:10

LokeshC wrote:Peregrine ji,

Baki population is on an exponential growth. That means it will grow by 60million in 5 years instead the 10 years it tookppreviously to grow by the same amount.

I.e. baki population should be about 260 million in 2017, 320million in 2020, 380 2022.....

We are looking at a very scary issue for all of humanity.

LokeshC Ji :

Forgive me for being brutally honest. I apologise in advance.

I do not give a toss for all of humanity as what has all of humanity done for India which has suffered Pakistani Based Terrorists (Uniformed or not) since September-October 1947?

All I care for is the Effect on India as a result of ANY UNSETTLING EVENT(S) IN CRAPISTAN.

IOW, we must think of the effects of Pakistani Islamic Sectarian Events i.e. not only the Explosion of Crapistan’s Population including but not limited to the Sunnis onslaught on the Ahmedies, Shias and other Non-Sunni Sects as well as on Non-Muslims.

I feel that in such circumstances India should accept the Hindus, Sikhs and the Scheduled Castes. India has no truck with those of other Muslim Sects whether accepted by the Sunnis or not.

The Zoroastrians and Christians will prefer Australia, Canada, UK and USA. Except the UK the other Three do not suffer from a High Population Density.

As it is Pakistani Ahmedis are flooding into Indian Punjab, Haryana and Himachal Pradesh on the pretext of having their relatives in these Indian States. The same will be in the case of any Sunni and all Shias.

I trust the Government of India is aware of the above.

Cheers

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 29 Jan 2015 00:20

Peregrine sahib,

I am completely with you there. At the risk of sounding like a hypocrite and an example of the Barber-Paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_paradox) let me state this (legal mumbo jumbo follows):

In my "book" (to use an abrahamic term) I define humanity as the set of all human beings who do not, consciously or unconsciously, intentionally or unintentionally subscribe to a belief system that excludes people who possess a different belief system than themselves. Especially so when such subscription in such beliefs causes the follower to resort to inhumane violence against the "other" after forgetting his or her own humanity when dealing with those he or she considers the "non human" other.

Edit: Here is the short form of the above in Engleesh (that may avoid the barber paradox

): A person is not a part of humanity if the person's beliefs makes that person become inhumane when dealing with any person who is humane.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 29 Jan 2015 00:39

OLd news but...