Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2015

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Well, the pakis did not allow mufti's party member to be part of track thoo, and what mufti is saying is pakis were responsible for disrupting elections in the past. He is "thanking" them for not doing so this time, which is just a dig at them, more than any praise.

We all know the only reason there was no paki violence was because the GoI had sealed the border tight, but politicians will be politicians. The paki-lovers in the INC not being the picture in J&K is a first step, assuming INC won't make a comeback under abdullah any time soon.
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chetak wrote: Read it again carefully. He may actually be quietly advocating something quite different.
What do you think he is advocating? To me to sounds like he lamenting why TSP has stopped IT exports, and is rather hurt that only so few Indians were killed by TSP pigLeTs in the recent past. Of course, justice for past terror attacks is not even on the radar. And this punk is an "expert" on Thappad's show.
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Make no mistake about it, Mufti wants to involve TSP in the valley. In this sense he is advocating the sentiments of his constiuents. If and when he pushes this line, it will be interesting to see how ModiJi will react.
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CRams wrote: What do you think he is advocating? To me to sounds like he lamenting why TSP has stopped IT exports
Huh? He is being a little cheeky there implying Pakis disrupted elections before...why would he lament pakis not exporting terrorism? how would that help him politically if he believed that?
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He will try a few things before settling down. Give him some rope! AFSPA is not going anywhere. Talks with Pakistan are predicated on other aspects as well. Forget Kashmir, India is not willing to talk even on Sir Creek

Watch latest Baylaag/Ejaz Haidar on Youtube with Suhasini Haidar who incidentally surprised me by defending India's refusal to talk to Pakistan on Kashmir until resolution is found on 26/11

OTOH we need to move forward on providing voting rights to POK Hindus. This should be the next target for BJP. Art 370 is so far away it is unfeasible to even dream about it.
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Tuvaluan wrote: Huh? He is being a little cheeky there implying Pakis disrupted elections before...why would he lament pakis not exporting terrorism? how would that help him politically if he believed that?
I was not referring to Mufti, I was referring to that traitor Aakar Patel.
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Come now. Aakar Patel is naive and bigoted buffoon like the rest of his journalist ilk. Frankly, you seem to be the only person I have seen recently that takes him seriously. He makes a living writing in paki newspapers so he writes whatever the highest bidder requires of him.
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Peregrine wrote:[
Jammu & Kashmir chief minister Mufti Mohammad Sayeed on Sunday praised the Hurriyat, Pakistan and militants for allowing successful elections in the state, evoking strong reactions from the opposition even as ally BJP reacted with caution.
I think Mufti Mohammad Sayeed has, possibly inadvertently, stated that Pakistan is responsible for all the Terrorism perpetrated in Jammu and Kashmir. Way to go Mufti Ji.
Hoorirtats and Hurrirroaches are being allowed to die in their sleep peacefully only. But as one Twitterwala's' Chitterwala advise to Amit Shah to deal with Mufti , AFSPA & A370 are Identical twins ,Bhai Bhai and cannot be separated. Either both stay or both go.
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Guys
You don't understand the Kashmiri (and people caught in similar situations - an analogy is the Afghans) mindset.
They initially struggle, politically, then take up arms, then eventually take a step back and let the big cats fight it out.
In Jammu and Kashmir's case, they'll let India and Pakistan fight it out...

Then smile and hug the winner - in this and every possible scenario that is going to be India.

Until that eventuality, they will take pleasure in the discomfiture of both parties.

If the pakistanis are losing their youth by turning them into terrorists who are killed one by one by the Indian army, what goes of the kashmiri's father hain ji? The way they see it, they stand an equal chance of their livelihood's and life being lost whenever there's a gunbattle.

If India steps up the game, asserts itself, as it has done in the last several years, the kashmir dispute will vanish in the eyes of the kashmiris.

As far as Pakistan's terror sponsoring ways, I would let India take care of it, with massa looking the other way. After all what goes of massa's father if India kills off some terrorists who kill massa's soldiers anyways hain ji?
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Tuvaluan wrote:Come now. Aakar Patel is naive and bigoted buffoon like the rest of his journalist ilk. Frankly, you seem to be the only person I have seen recently that takes him seriously. He makes a living writing in paki newspapers so he writes whatever the highest bidder requires of him.
Not at all, I don't know how you got that impression. Someone posted an article from that bufoon, and I just commented.
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Guys I got twitter that Paki and Zimabway game was fixed. Moin Khan went to casino and met with booky to fix match. Obviously Zimbabway could have won easily but throw away the game. Money talks.
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sorry double posting
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chetak wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote: ...
Reads like pure fellow Indian Patel is advising Pakistan to get its act together and do more IT exports to his motherland.
Read it again carefully. He may actually be quietly advocating something quite different.
IT=International Terrorism in case it is too unclear.
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Of parades and operations
Were we holding military parades when we were at war in 1971 or in 1965? Are we not at war now?
The possibility of a planned attack by terrorists on a soft target on the day of the parade is something that the military must consider seriously before deciding to go ahead with the idea of holding the March 23 parade.
Our military is already overstretched and overcommitted.
The decision to hold the March 23 parade is a political one and not a military one
The only reason to hold the parade (given that the Chinese president attends it) seems to be to send a message to India and the world that China stands by us and backs our military and political interests.
If attending military parades is now being attributed to sending geopolitical messages, why can’t our prime minister travel to China to send such a message rather than the Chinese president travelling to Pakistan and attending a ceremonial parade that as a nation at war we should not be holding
Mayhaps the Chinese President is reluctant!
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Looks like the Chinese president is not going to come after all.

Terrible loss of H&D !!!

How to overcome this situation?

My prediction is that the ISI will stage a false flag terrorist attack one week before March 23 and postpone the parade.
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Just keeping a track of the number of things where India is involved that causes rona dhona in La La Land is amazing.

Just this year alone, I wonder how many things have caused a serious case of tummy gripes to these neighbours of India
1. Modi becoming PM
2. India's economy
3. Mangalyaan
4. Army Public School
5. BSF kicking their arses across the LOC
6. Obama's visit
7. AAP's win in Delhi
8. Former CEC Qureshi's visit to Pakistan
9. Cricket world cup

The list goes on and on...
I'll bet 2 weeks from now, there will be more rona dhona involving India on an entirely new subject. I expect FS's visit there will generate another round of rona dhona...
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Guys, I am impressed with Hina Bhat. While valley Muslims will accuse her of being a sell put, if you listen to her carefully, I didn't sense any convenient language she is using to impress the BJP big wigs. She is very careful about article 370, and while she laments Mufti's statement on TSP, she does point out that basically Mufti was saying TSP could have been a spoiler. Now that they tried and were thwarted by Indian army is a different matter. In any case, I hope Hina Bhat is well protected from the vile ISI b@satrds and their proxies.
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Peregrine wrote:Of parades and operations
The possibility of a planned attack by terrorists on a soft target on the day of the parade is something that the military must consider seriously before deciding to go ahead with the idea of holding the March 23 parade.
If a terrorist attack occurs during the parade it will inevitably be blamed on India - so here's hoping that an attack does take place. We can say "tut tut Pakistanis also a victim of Pakistan sponsored terrorism. Terrorism has no religion so Islamic terrorism is secular terrorism"
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Gagan wrote:Looks like the Chinese president is not going to come after all.

Terrible loss of H&D !!!

How to overcome this situation?

My prediction is that the ISI will stage a false flag terrorist attack one week before March 23 and postpone the parade.
goody! no need to rent chopsticks now!!
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Two butchers arrested in Karachi for selling dog meat

KARACHI: Two butchers were arrested in Karachi's Ibrahim Hyderi area on Monday for selling dog meat to the public under the guise of goat meat.

Acting on a tip-off, police conducted a raid in Ibrahim Hyderi and arrested two men Imran and Shahab who were slaughtering dogs on a building's rooftop.

According to police, the two men were merely accomplices who had been duped into slaughtering dogs, while the main suspects had managed to flee.

Police also seized a gunny sack containing dog meat from the two butchers. Further investigation into the matter is underway.

Take a look : Three held for selling donkey meat

Pakistan, which is a Muslim-majority country, prohibits consumption of dog meat. Dog meat is also regarded as unclean under Islamic dietary laws.

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^^so let me get this right: someone was selling donkey meat to a buyer who thought he was getting dog meat, only to sell it to the consumer who thought he was getting mutton?
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JE Menon wrote:^^so let me get this right: someone was selling donkey meat to a buyer who thought he was getting dog meat, only to sell it to the consumer who thought he was getting mutton?
only Im the dim can lead such a complex and evolved society.

Lots of paki mards must now be pissing with one leg cocked up against the lamp post?? :rotfl:
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KP police arrest 471 parents for refusing polio vaccine
Police on Monday registered cases against more than 1,400 people in Peshawar for refusing to vaccinate their children against polio during the ongoing drive in the provincial capital.
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Self Deleted. Double Post.
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Here we go again!

Breaking the deadlock: Pakistan to offer India new CBMs
ISLAMABAD / LAHORE: After months of belligerent rhetoric and sabre-rattling, the administration of Prime Minister Narendra Modi is sending its top diplomat on foreign policy to Pakistan tomorrow (March 3). And Islamabad is expected to propose a series of new confidence-building measures (CBMs) in an effort to put the rollercoaster relationship back on track.
The new CBMs include a proposal to restore the 2003 ceasefire agreement between the two archrivals along their de facto and de jure borders where sporadic outbreak of hostilities have bedeviled their relations in recent months.This is due to the India's Massive Response to Paki Cease-Fire Violations
The official told The Express Tribune that Pakistan would offer an end to months-long hostilities along the LoC and working boundary. “The proposal is part of CBMs Pakistan intends to put forward during the foreign secretary-level talks in Islamabad,” said the official who spoke to The Express Tribune on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to the media.
“And the process was revived after Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi telephoned Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and invited him to resume talks from where they were suspended,” he added.
Referring to India’s defence budget which was jacked up by 8%, Aziz said Pakistan did not want to enter an arm race in the region.Paki claims while India's latest Budget apportions a Defence Budget of US$ 40 Billion. Pakistan's Defence spending is claimed at US$ 7 Billion. IMO it is about US$ 15 Billion if not more.
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^^^
I wonder if this is after baksheesh and hand-me-downs weapons, from the four fathers is factored in or before hain ji?
chetak wrote:Lots of paki mards must now be pissing with one leg cocked up against the lamp post?? :rotfl:
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 432907.cms
Indian defence budget hike will create new edge of tension: Pakistani media
Two days after India increased its defence budget by 10.95 per cent to Rs 2.46 lakh crore for the next fiscal as compared to the revised estimates of Rs 2.22 lakh crore for 2014-15, an editorial titled 'Clear Intent' in The News International said it was "unfortunate that both countries" lay so much focus on defence spending.

"...in recent months New Delhi has been taking an increasingly belligerent stance as far as Pakistan goes, with skirmishes taking place along the Line of Control and hostile language used again and again.

"Against this backdrop the increase in the military budget will create a new edge of tension between the two neighbours," said the editorial in the newspaper considered close to Pakistani military.

The editorial called it "unfortunate" that both India and Pakistan, partially as a result of these tensions, "lay so much focus on defence spending rather than on improving the quality of lives for citizens".
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It said that the strong stress placed by the Indian Finance Minister while announcing the budget on defending every inch of the country's territory "sends out a message that makes it obvious that India is not in its most peaceful phase". {Defending ones own territory is against peace? Only Lahori Logic can draw such conclusion}
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Another editorial in the Dawn said the Indian military remains the principal threat to Pakistan's security and, hence, the Pakistani security establishment is right in closely tracking Indian defence spending.

"The Pakistani security establishment is right to closely track Indian defence spending because India remains, in terms of its military capabilities, the principal threat to Pakistan's security. But a rational, logical perspective is really what is needed rather than the wild conjecturing in some hawkish quarters.

"Simply, much as some in India would like to separate the question of competing with China from the need to manage risk with Pakistan, the overall Indian military capability will send a message in both directions. Stability will only come from advancing dialogue with Pakistan," the editorial titled 'Defence Anxieties' said.
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Peregrine wrote:Here we go again!

Breaking the deadlock: Pakistan to offer India new CBMs
ISLAMABAD / LAHORE: After months of belligerent rhetoric and sabre-rattling, the administration of Prime Minister Narendra Modi is sending its top diplomat on foreign policy to Pakistan tomorrow (March 3). And Islamabad is expected to propose a series of new confidence-building measures (CBMs) in an effort to put the rollercoaster relationship back on track.
The new CBMs include a proposal to restore the 2003 ceasefire agreement between the two archrivals along their de facto and de jure borders where sporadic outbreak of hostilities have bedeviled their relations in recent months.This is due to the India's Massive Response to Paki Cease-Fire Violations
The official told The Express Tribune that Pakistan would offer an end to months-long hostilities along the LoC and working boundary. “The proposal is part of CBMs Pakistan intends to put forward during the foreign secretary-level talks in Islamabad,” said the official who spoke to The Express Tribune on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to the media.
“And the process was revived after Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi telephoned Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and invited him to resume talks from where they were suspended,” he added.
Referring to India’s defence budget which was jacked up by 8%, Aziz said Pakistan did not want to enter an arm race in the region.Paki claims while India's latest Budget apportions a Defence Budget of US$ 40 Billion. Pakistan's Defence spending is claimed at US$ 7 Billion. IMO it is about US$ 15 Billion if not more.
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SSridhar wrote:Munir Akram's Improbable Prediction - DAWN
Modi will find it impossible to pummel Pakistan into accepting India’s regional domination. Once Pakistan-Afghan relations are fully normalised, India will lose its principal avenue for waging its apparent shadow war against Pakistan through the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan and the Balochistan Liberation Army. On the other hand, as the BJP’s Hindu extremists antagonise Kashmiri Muslims, India’s Achilles’ heel will once again be fully exposed.

Nor is Pakistan likely to be financially overwhelmed or strategically intimidated by India’s massive arms build-up. It will acquire defensive capabilities cheaply from China and possibly Russia. In any case, India appears to be arming itself for the wrong war. The next India-Pakistan war, if allowed to happen, will be fought not so much with aircraft, tanks or ships, but mostly with missiles. Such a war will be short and destructive and most likely escalate to the nuclear level.

The main question is what will happen once the realisation dawns in New Delhi that Modi’s ambitions are unlikely to be realised. As the BJP government begins to lose popular support, Modi’s instinct will be to retain the loyalty of his core constituency by returning to his Hindu supremacist roots. This will further divide India and threaten regional and global peace and security.
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I think I have shared this story before. In school I had a friend: Who'd get into trouble again and again for cutting classes, getting drunk, going to watch pr0n movies and generally doing no-good things. He was a good friend of ours though. We tried telling him "Atleast finish 10th". For which he bravely replied "You fellows attend classes, do well. Now all you can do is to is go down, fail and become a general loser in life. I on the other hand am so rotten that all I can do is go up and become better than you".

Last I checked fellow was a local don and had gone to jail 4 times.

Munir Akram's article reminded me of this incident.
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vijaykarthik wrote:I still don't understand if that was the Muftis way of appreciating Pakis? So casual, so mufti.
I was pretty impressed by the discipline, long term thinking and maturity that Pakistan and the militant organizations had in JK. They realized that democracy and peaceful elections is what is needed for people to march towards their destiny and showed immense maturity and strategic insight. I wish Pakistan well, and hope that Pakistan supports democracy and peaceful elections in Pakistan as much as how Pakistan supported democracy and peaceful elections in JK.
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vijaykarthik wrote:I still don't understand if that was the Muftis way of appreciating Pakis? So casual, so mufti.
Well, dont get all worked up. Pakistan's official position is that they have never interfered in JK and the uprising is all indigenous :wink:
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Pakistani tubelight lighting up: Fellow muslim countries and four-fathers are promoting IT industry in Pakistan
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vijaykarthik wrote:^^ Fair enough.

Just these data points too:

I read a few reports from ex-IAS / ambassador types who say that there hasn't been a precedent where SAARC visits have been done this way. Besides, something about this having to be done by the Sec Gnrl and that country in charge and since India currently isn't the one, its perhaps a bit too tenuous that its about SAARC. --> Its about a bilateral talk or talk of a restart of a bilateral talk but cloaked as a SAARC summit. [I also remember seeing that there hasn't been too much progress in the SAARC end for anyone to have a tearing SAARC meet up. ]
Something like this had to be done long time ago. It is about time that India needs to view itself differently and take on a role that is more encompassing. Indian economy is huge and most of the other countries in SAARC are all attached to India and Indian economy. Other countries are together less than 25% of Indian economy. So making such trips is just about time and also important to put Pakistan in its place and remind Pakistan that it is just another country in the vicinity of India. Difference in the economic and political size has to be made clear to Pakistan and as India goes on to integrate other counties well within SAARC, let Pakistan decide what and where it wants to fall.
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Defence anxieties
First, the bad news. The Indian defence budget is set to hit a record high of $40bn. That compares with a basic and Pakistani military budget of roughly $7bn.
Consider that while the Indian defence budget is set to cross $40bn, the Chinese defence budget is roughly four times larger.
Chinese Economy is about three times India's Economy. India does not go about beating its breast at the size of Chinese Defence Budget. However, India's Economy is over Nine Times the size of the Pakistani Economy. I feel that the Cwapistani Defence Budget is at least US$ 15 Billion more than One third the Indian Defence Spending. As such Cwapistan is ruining itself by trying to Equal=Equal with India - at least in the Area of Defence Capability. Lagay Raho Cwapistanis!
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Frequent equal equalitis, threatening instability and playing up threats of war and existential crisis is the modus operandi that the TFTAs deploy to ask for baksheesh.

Pakistan's economy, literacy, public health and energy sectors are in a worse shape than their defense. You don't hear such sustained rona dhona about it.

What do you think is the more immediate threat? India pak nuke war or uncontrolled polio outbreak with thousands of cases in Pakistan?
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Peregrine wrote:Defence anxietiesChinese Economy is about three times India's Economy. India does not go about beating its breast at the size of Chinese Defence Budget. However, India's Economy is over Nine Times the size of the Pakistani Economy. I feel that the Cwapistani Defence Budget is at least US$ 15 Billion more than One third the Indian Defence Spending. As such Cwapistan is ruining itself by trying to Equal=Equal with India - at least in the Area of Defence Capability. Lagay Raho crwapistanis!
Not Equal Equal But Peaqual Peaqual Paradigm

Mush Jale Tho Jale, Pakidil Jale Tho Jale
Kissi ka Na Sunn, Paki Giraaye jaa!
Bin Vasleen Bajayee Jaa, Gaa Jai Hind Taarane
Bdget Baarrayee Jaa!!

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If India is compared to a human being, then Bakistan and its defense budget is like a crazy monkey with a lit dynamite tied to its back running around the human being.

The human is much more intelligent and resourceful than the monkey can ever be, however temporarily the monkey has an enormous advantage in the power equation..... Until the fuse burns out.
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Martial race TFTA's are getting their butts kicked by the SDRE's.

India's growing Mixed Martial Arts organisation - Super Fight League (SFL) – held its 38th Fight Night at The Dome, Dubai Sports City.

Present at the showdown were Founder Raj Kundra, Shilpa Shetty, celebrated UK boxer Amir Khan and GCC officials. The night witnessed a face-off between the two classic adversaries - India and Pakistan.

India crowned yet another victory against Pakistan, winning 6-1.

The bouts certainly satisfied the appetite of MMA fans in the UAE.The proceeds collected from the SFL 38 Fight Night will support the charity of boxer Amir Khan that works for the betterment of the victims and their families affected in the Peshawar attacks in Pakistan.

Momeens cannot loose to Hindus.These matches were fixed. This is is big conspiracy against Pakistan.
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Vipul wrote:The proceeds collected from the SFL 38 Fight Night will support the charity of boxer Amir Khan that works for the betterment of the victims and their families affected in the Peshawar attacks in Pakistan.

Momeens cannot loose to Hindus.These matches were fixed. This is is big conspiracy against Pakistan.
They do and they'll spin it as taqqiya to support the bereaved in Pakistan.

I wonder if Pakis have ever participated in an event the proceeds of which will go to Baluchis and the genocided Bengalis, then why this khujli from some Indians to contribute to the "victims and their families affected in the attacks in Pakistan."
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

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Pakistan's Terrorism Accusations Against India: Bizarre But Calculated
Amid a declining domestic situation, senior Pakistani officials see it fit to blame India — an unproductive endeavor.
The Director-General of Pakistan’s Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Rizwan Akhtar arrived in Washington, D.C. for talks with intelligence and defense officials on a possible “peace settlement” between the elected government in Afghanistan and the Taliban. The Pakistani Urdu daily Jang also reports that Lt. Gen. Akhtar planned to complain to his hosts about India’s alleged support to the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and its activities in Afghanistan, which the Pakistani military establishment considers inimical to its interests.

In the days and weeks leading up to Lt. Gen. Akhtar’s visit to the U.S., Pakistan’s complaints were reinforced in Pakistan’s English and Urdu dailies. The far-right newspaper Ummat ran an article asserting that Pakistan was planning to present evidence of Indian “terrorism” through diplomatic and global media circles. The newspaper claimed that “evidence” had been unearthed of India’s involvement in terrorism in Balochistan, Karachi, and Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA). Not to be left behind, the conservative daily Nawa-i-waqt, in an editorial, appealed to the Nawaz Sharif government to counter India’s alleged interference in Pakistan’s internal affairs and demanded that Mr. Sharif declare that India is an enemy of Pakistan.
Looks like establishment has started to believe the lies that it fed to masses for all these years. First sign of self destruction is when you do that AoA
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