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In that insider job what were the reasons for the person to turn traitor? I think the country needs to know especially when he is court martialled. I think OAS requires imprisonment. Court Martial is easy let off unless it leads to military prison.
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Noticed that all the government office and post offices enabled with high tech biometric devices have all their biometric devices broken by the govt. employees themselves -- is the govt. really that incompetent that it cannot make destroying govt. property like biometric devices carry a minimum mandatory sentence of 10 years or some period. What is the fricking point of spending crores and crores on govt. efficiency when the goddamned monkeys that work for the govt. offices can evade all scrutiny by just breaking these devices physically? What kind of security can be expected in say a bank or any govt. service, in due course. when govt. programs and services are rendered ineffective by ignorant baboons who land up government jobs who have no interest in accountability or oversight?
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T
How about some data? Lets take this up as BRF project for good governance.
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Corrupt officers block PM Modi’s transparency drive
sunday-guardian.com | Mar 7th 2015

MADHAV NALAPAT New Delhi

enior officials say that Prime Minister Narendra Modi has called for a review by the Cabinet Secretariat of the indiscriminate way in which documents have been classified as secret. The intention behind the exercise is "to ensure greater transparency in the functioning of government offices, in order to promote disclosure and probity". Although as yet the Modi government has succeeded in bringing to justice only a small handful of corrupt officials during the UPA period, the rest of the tainted flock are nervous at a possible intensification of Prime Minister Modi's quest for transparency and accountability. They are therefore working to ensure that the opaque governance system that is a relic of the British colonial era, continues into the foreseeable future. In particular, they are working to ensure through appropriate notings and interventions that the 2011-13 efforts by the Manmohan Singh government to water down the impact of the Right to Information Act get revived rather than rolled back.

Acting on the overall directions of the Prime Minister, units of the Delhi police have uncovered several "corporate espionage rings" operating within key economic and other ministries. Senior officials in sync with PM Modi's desire for clean and transparent government say that relevant agencies have since 2011 had knowledge of these networks, but that the corporate spies were allowed to continue unimpeded "because of protection from the highest political quarters". Interestingly, some of these espionage networks ensured the flow (to selected media channels) of information stolen from ministry files, so as to generate negative (albeit factual) stories about rival groups and hostile individuals, including senior officials as well as ministers. Some of the rings "functioned also as the private detective agencies of friendly officials and politicians, securing for them dirt on their opponents, which could be leaked to friendly journalists or used for purposes of blackmail".

For the media, accuracy and public interest trump the motivation of sources in revealing information, hence their case for publishing material stolen from government files by corporate espionage networks. Interestingly, police and other agencies have yet to question more than a third of the individuals known (from preliminary investigations) to have guided such spy rings, or who regularly accessed information gathered by them. However, an official said that these individuals have not been excused, but will be questioned later, after the huge volume of information secured during the raids gets processed by the police. Interestingly, an official privy to the documents said that "more than three-fourths of them should not have been classified as secret". According to him, such documents ought to have been placed on the websites of the concerned ministries, and that to do so would have been in the public interest.

"Keeping information secret, which ought to have been in the public domain, ensures that bribes get paid to reveal such data, and also serves to protect corrupt officials", a senior official warned, adding that "more than 90% of classified information is such as to serve the public interest better by disclosure rather than by secrecy". A senior official said that specific measures to increase transparency have been suggested, which include:

(a) the placing of draft bills intended for introduction in Parliament on ministry websites, in order to generate the views of civil society on such prospective legislation;

(b) televising or live streaming of the discussions held by Parliamentary committees on important issues and the placing of minutes of proceedings in the public domain;

(c) placing on relevant official websites all decisions of the Union Cabinet as well as the notes relied upon in the taking of such decisions;

(d) making public the assets of officials, and making them fill out a declaration of assets each year for themselves and their family members, with penalties for non-disclosure. In particular, several officials claim that their offspring win scholarships to expensive international institutions of higher learning. Full details of how costs of stay and study abroad of dependents of decision-makers are being met would assist in accountability, officials unhappy at the non-disclosure of such information say;

(e) making public via ministry websites the file movements both within each ministry as well as between ministries, so as to keep a check on inefficiency or possible collateral motives;

(f) placing information given in public tenders on relevant websites, after technical and financial bids have been opened, so as to keep a check on possible scams based on "fixing" of criteria;

(g) strengthening the ambit of the Right to Information Act and set mandatory punishments for ignoring timelines for the handing over of information, as well as ensure that only those committed to transparency would be considered for the posts of Information Commissioners.

Senior officials say that except for a coterie of corrupt officials and their accessories, others in the government would welcome greater transparency. Owing to the widespread prevalence of graft in India, disclosure of information has much less of a downside than a continuation of the British colonial era fetish of official secrecy, one of the many features of colonial rule embraced in totality by Jawaharlal Nehru and his successors. These officials say that they are hopeful that Prime Minister Modi will succeed in his mission of ensuring transparent government. They would also like the Cabinet Secretariat to initiate workshops and courses on "open government" for officials at all levels, so as to rid them of the cult of secrecy and a mistrust in the good sense of the general public, both of which are holdovers from the British colonial era, but which still remain embedded within the governance system in India. "Prime Minister Modi can rely on the 'honest majority' of officials to ensure that he succeeds in his efforts at bringing the governance system in India on par with those in other major democracies, rather than resemble those of authoritarian states," according to a senior official.
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ramana wrote:T
How about some data? Lets take this up as BRF project for good governance.
Ramanaji, I only know about govt offices in Bangalore where these devices have been broken, and these were new and shiny just a few months ago. I will remember to snap some pictures the next time I am there.
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Tuvaluan wrote:Noticed that all the government office and post offices enabled with high tech biometric devices have all their biometric devices broken by the govt. employees themselves -- is the govt. really that incompetent that it cannot make destroying govt. property like biometric devices carry a minimum mandatory sentence of 10 years or some period. What is the fricking point of spending crores and crores on govt. efficiency when the goddamned monkeys that work for the govt. offices can evade all scrutiny by just breaking these devices physically? What kind of security can be expected in say a bank or any govt. service, in due course. when govt. programs and services are rendered ineffective by ignorant baboons who land up government jobs who have no interest in accountability or oversight?
You would be so right. In one of the organisation the head imposed charges to all ( as they refused to disclose the name of the person responsible and no CCTV was installed) equivalent to repair charges , purchase of two new such devices and the cost of the original one( amount per head was very small but all had to pay). The association protested but when informed that a police FIR would have to be registered against the watchman who is supposedly responsible for keeping watch they relented. It was also informed that if next one is broken same charge would be levied.

And it worked without trouble. Sometimes community fines are effective.
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Can we at least get news paper reports of such instances?
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ramana wrote:Can we at least get news paper reports of such instances?
No reports in the local newpapers about such things, unfortunately, maybe it is considered not newsworthy.
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Tuvaluan wrote:
You have made your point, which is of course regurgitation of govt. pov., something I do not agree with in this case, and I have made mine.
Removing PP off a plane certainly does not violate "constitutional rights" constitutional rights of an Indian, and you can't seem to specify what exactly those constitutional rights are yourself, one can presume you were just making it all up. Moving on, the constitution is far from perfect and pretty flawed, and I disagree with large parts of it, but that is not the point here.

PP being removed from the plane because her ticket was funded by GP which was on some FCRA watchlist, and that has nothing to do with her "constitutional rights". This is was considered a violation of the FCRA rules that were recently passed in the parliament that was allegedly enforced by IB, which has nothing to do with PP's constitutional rights. No one has a constitutional right to fly whereever they want, especially if there proven intent to prejudice and hurt public interest.
Just one point, if govt. was within its rights, and within the laws, there wont be any controversy and we won't be debating this in the first place.
Laws are usually written imperfectly leaving room for ambiguity in interpretation, so no, there is nothing that says that just because the govt. considers its interpretation right, there will not be any controversy. The courts exist for clearing the ambiguity, which is the whole point. So summarily,

1. there are laws that are not perfectly written
2. govt. interprets these laws to its benefit depending on what it considers is allowable interpretation
3. the courts exist to remove any ambiguity and deal a resolution one way or another.

None of this means that PP's rights are being violated or the govt. is "within its rights". As for speaking the govt.'s POV, I am glad to not support anti-national activity of some traitor working for some dubious NGO and providing intel to a foreign govt. and hurting Indian trade interests, which in turn could well affect the very people the likes PP are pretending to represent, and not in a good way.

The following quote is from a rediff article:
Priya has been working with local communities in Mahan, who oppose the setting up of an impending coal plant by Essar Energy (a company registered in UK) and Hindalco (Aditya Birla Group in India). Greenpeace India made no secret of the fact that it was opposed to the setting up of coal-based thermal power plants for environmental and other reasons.
She was going assist in hurting UK companies that were willing to set up a power plant in India from setting up such a plant in India -- which may not even be in the UK's interests for that matter. An energy shortage in India does not help the poor people in Mahan in any way at all -- to start any sort of economic activity you need energy, so yeah, I am pretty okay with PP being thrown off the plane and whatever else is thrown her way if she continues to push GP's agenda.

On the one hand we have hundreds of millions of poor Indians with no access to energy or clean water, and unable to lead a quality life, and we have people like Priya Pillai reporting to foreign governments on how to screw India by stopping projects in these underdeveloped areas that will help improve the local economy and whining because they are unable to do so. On the balance, denying PP's rights to assist in the quality of life of the 100s of millions whose life will be touched by an improving economy is the right balance, but that is not a legal opinion which is what matters.

Delhi High Court verdict is out and it is Priya Pillay 1 - NDA Govt 0, thus vindicating my stand on in this case. That would also mean that Delhi HC did not buy your arguments.

Court Sets Aside 'Look Out Circular' for Greenpeace Activist Priya Pillai
NEW DELHI: Exactly two months after Greenpeace activist Priya Pillai was stopped from boarding a flight to London to speak to British MPs, the Delhi High Court has asked the government to quash the lookout circular against her.

The court has also directed the government to expunge the passport entry where it has been stamped as "offload".

"You cannot muzzle dissent in a democracy... Citizens can have different opinion of development policies," the High Court said today.

Ms Pillai, who was offloaded from the aircraft by immigration officials on January 11, was scheduled to visit London to make a presentation before British MPs regarding alleged human rights violation at Mahan in Madhya Pradesh where a proposed coal mining project was threatening to uproot the lives of the local communities.

Ms Pillai said her offloading was "illegal and arbitrary" and she had a valid business visa for six months to visit London where she was scheduled to address British parliamentarians on January 14.

Her name will now also be removed from any government database that prevents her from travelling abroad.
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This can also be taken as an opportunity. Now we can invite anyone from the world to come here and talk about the ills happening in their own respective county and we can dictate to that country. :D
That's what supreme court is saying. :)
The Indian court now also do have jurisdiction over anything that happen in England. :) And England is an Indian territory belonging to the Democratic Republic of India. :) That's why court mentioned that anyone from here can go there and say things. So similarly anyone from England can come and talk bad about England..because we are one onlee. :) England from now on is a small island territory of India.
Also the govt can put some questions to the court to answer.
1) Is British Parliamentarians representative of Indian people? How is complaining to them about anything going to help resolve the problem in India?

We must now onwards invite people in England to come here and testify before the Indian parliamentarians about things happening in Britain. This is the only way forward. There be no restrictions. People can speak whatever they feel like. Anyone can. Let there be no restrictions. Let there be open debates. :) I am sure India will win handsdown. :)
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I mentioned earlier
On the balance, denying PP's rights to assist in the quality of life of the 100s of millions whose life will be touched by an improving economy is the right balance, but that is not a legal opinion which is what matters.
So the court gave its legal opinon, and PP still did not get to meet her handlers in Britain in January, so it all sorta worked out, really. The courts are also part of the current regime, it is not like they are a separate entity, making this out to be some sort of political loss to the BJP is pretty stupid.

One arm of govt. interpreted the law to keep PP out of Britain in january and by the time she got her day in court, the moment has passed. All in all, everyone got what they wanted except PP..so boo hoo.
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what happens next time?
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what happens next time?
If the securty agencies want to stop someone from temporarily leaving the country, they can do this again...by the time the courts get to it, the intent would be achieved, like it did this time. If what happened here is a misinterpretation of "etc." in the rulebook, the etc. can be misinterpreted again if required.
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Lot of judgments are coming which are making it harder and harder to secure the country and thwart native collaborators. No wonder the lady who made the Nirbhaya documentary is feeling so cocky about the ban not lasting long because of "independent judiciary." Something is not right with the judges. They are batting on the side of the forces which are intent on destroying the country. they ban Salwa Judum and disallow the government from banning funding of Green Peace.
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Very well said, Uddu ji. Now we can invite actual investigating agency that probed child grooming cases, and ask them if any minority kids were harmed too while the British were at their sophisticated best to not look anti-racist (??wtf) only.

Or we can invite good fellas from EDL or similar group give video talk about it. After all, it was the sophisticated half truths Passed about "south asia" gangs in British media that hid actual criminals.

But then, may be, anti-komoonal parties in India will problems in twist when any truth comes out. These interest groups rather have the truth muddied with "south asia" BS and spread nonsense. Not one desi was arrested for abuse and most of the criminal gangs turned out to be pakis but that didn't come in the way of people dumping such heinous crimes on "south asia". Isn't it a crime to hide pedophiles under fancy labels and flip blame in general to other group in UK?
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This little incestual judges club will soon be destroyed and set on fire, once the executive starts controlling appointments, as it should be -- hopefully that will stop losers like Katju and his ilk from occupying these august positions. These judges seem to think they are in charge of social activism rather than interpreting the laws as they are supposed to do.
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I have doubt about Katju being a looser. The jury is out there actually
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Katju is a politician wearing the garb of a judge -- he was definitely unfit for the Supreme court, regardless. His constant publicity mongering says that he is just a congenital narcissist/attention seeker.
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uddu, If you had to put so many smileys then it hardly is a viable option. Wont happen.
The key issue is overstepping of the courts in every executive action. While tardy response to criminal sentencing.
How come the Courts have not shown the same alacrity in the Delhi Gang Rape case? The criminals will die of old age before the court gives its opinion.

The Courts have to be told they cannot legislate.
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Agree, Ramanaji, courts have chosen to listen to high publicity cases like IPL rather than important cases of violent crime, which is utterly despicable.

Also, finally this govt. does the needful and cleans the smelly stables of New Delhi bureaucracy. Hopefully they going be going after benami land deeds etc, as most of this illicit loot is stashed in the form of land.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... -60-lakhs/
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ramana wrote:The Courts have to be told they cannot legislate.
YES !!! It has to be a sharp rap on the knuckle to drive some sense into them. Judges of this country fancy themselves as some kind of demigods who cannot be touched or criticized.
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SanjayC wrote:Lot of judgments are coming which are making it harder and harder to secure the country and thwart native collaborators. No wonder the lady who made the Nirbhaya documentary is feeling so cocky about the ban not lasting long because of "independent judiciary." Something is not right with the judges. They are batting on the side of the forces which are intent on destroying the country. they ban Salwa Judum and disallow the government from banning funding of Green Peace.
Many of the judges follow the dictum which the honourable supreme court gave to a former army chief - "sway with the wind"

Of the five judges asked to bow before Indira, four crawled, one didnt completely do it. Three of them went on to become chief justices of India and one was already because he superceded three seniors. The one who didnt bow resigned. Basically 80% judges and 100% of chief justices bowed before the government.

Guess when they appoint their next successors (1994-2014), whom they picked?

Even the ias officers have to write an exam, the only condition imposed on judges is 10 years experience in supreme court as lawyer. The choice is completely according to those in power.

Accountability in judiciary in India < 0
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ramana wrote:uddu, If you had to put so many smileys then it hardly is a viable option. Wont happen.
The key issue is overstepping of the courts in every executive action. While tardy response to criminal sentencing.
How come the Courts have not shown the same alacrity in the Delhi Gang Rape case? The criminals will die of old age before the court gives its opinion.

The Courts have to be told they cannot legislate.
it requires that executive stand up for its rights. The judiciary grabbed that space during 90s and 2000s, when no executive was ready to say to them where to get off.
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Indira Gandhi, with advice from Mohan Kumaramanlam and Siddharth Shankar Ray, packed the Supreme Court with pliable judges under slogan "Committed Judiciary". Soon after Emergency was over one CJI read the Constitution and created the collegium process to insulate from political pressure. However it has degenerated and needs to be readjusted. Its not like its the best process for it has put in judges with wrong priorities.
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Tuvaluan wrote:I mentioned earlier
On the balance, denying PP's rights to assist in the quality of life of the 100s of millions whose life will be touched by an improving economy is the right balance, but that is not a legal opinion which is what matters.
So the court gave its legal opinon, and PP still did not get to meet her handlers in Britain in January, so it all sorta worked out, really. The courts are also part of the current regime, it is not like they are a separate entity, making this out to be some sort of political loss to the BJP is pretty stupid.

One arm of govt. interpreted the law to keep PP out of Britain in january and by the time she got her day in court, the moment has passed. All in all, everyone got what they wanted except PP..so boo hoo.
You have it backwards, PP was able to talk over Skype connection, thus making the govt. ban look stupid in the first place. Secondly she turned down govt. offer of signing an affidavit, and finally won in court, as expected.

It is more like PP 4 - BJP govt 0. PP wanted relief from HC and got the relief on all count so the statement "All in all, everyone got what they wanted except PP..so boo hoo" is complete oxymoron.

I am not a fan of Greenpeace or PP for that matters, but I am not a fan of stupid decisions made by the govt. either.
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Virupaksha wrote: it requires that executive stand up for its rights. The judiciary grabbed that space during 90s and 2000s, when no executive was ready to say to them where to get off.
Towards the end of its second term, the UPA govt. did try to assert itself, but it was too late, which is why they supported the bill by the current govt. to remove the election of judges out of the purview of the collegium.
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SanjayC wrote:Lot of judgments are coming which are making it harder and harder to secure the country and thwart native collaborators. No wonder the lady who made the Nirbhaya documentary is feeling so cocky about the ban not lasting long because of "independent judiciary." Something is not right with the judges. They are batting on the side of the forces which are intent on destroying the country. they ban Salwa Judum and disallow the government from banning funding of Green Peace.
Actually the HC has turned down lifting the ban on the documentary.
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Dipanker wrote: You have it backwards, PP was able to talk over Skype connection, thus making the govt. ban look stupid in the first place. Secondly she turned down govt. offer of signing an affidavit, and finally won in court, as expected.
Disagree there. There is a difference between skyping brit MPs and being physically present in Britain -- in the former case India knows exactly what was said and who heard it. In the latter case, there is no telling who else PP may have been meeting and what else was being planned there -- a complete lack of intel on that. The signing of an affidavit would have had the same effect as offloading her off the plane, as she could be held responsible for violating the terms of the affidavit if she was upto some mischief, even if unwittingly.

In any case, it seems very likely now that Greenpeace's targeting of UK's ESSAR conglomerate via PP turned out to be the first of many targeted attacks against ESSAR via targeted leaks to the Indian media in February -- there was something else going on here along the lines of corporate espionage and rivalry and PP was the useful idiot who failed to deliver.
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Virupaksha wrote: ......
Many of the judges follow the dictum which the honourable supreme court gave to a former army chief - "sway with the wind"

Of the five judges asked to bow before Indira, four crawled, one didnt completely do it. Three of them went on to become chief justices of India and one was already because he superceded three seniors. The one who didnt bow resigned. Basically 80% judges and 100% of chief justices bowed before the government.

Guess when they appoint their next successors (1994-2014), whom they picked?

Even the ias officers have to write an exam, the only condition imposed on judges is 10 years experience in supreme court as lawyer. The choice is completely according to those in power.

Accountability in judiciary in India < 0

No wonder that gave AbhiSex Singhvi so much power to harass women lawyers.
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Hmmm bhery important secular developments in West Bengal !!!!

Cleric’s ‘fatwa’ cancels women’s football match
MALDA: Organizers had to cancel a women's football match and national-level players who had come from various places across the country had to return as fundamentalists allegedly issued a fatwa to stop a women's football match at Harishchandrapur here on Saturday.

The block administration, which had earlier given permission for the football match, is now giving the excuse of law and order issues to cancel the event.

Progressive Youth Club of Chandipur village in Harishchandrapur police station area had organized the football match as a part of their golden jubilee celebrations. Club president Reja Razi said, "The women's football match was to be played between Kolkata-XI and North Bengal-XI. National-level players such as Krishna Das, Sujata Kar, Arjuna-awardee Santi Mallik, Fifa referee Anamika Sen, captain of national handball team Anita Roy and many others were supposed to be present on the occasion. There was great enthusiasm about the event among local people."

"But last week, some moulavis (Muslim clerics) raised their objection to the women's football match. We had approached the block administration and the sub-divisional officer for help. On March 11, a meeting was also held in the presence of BDO between us and the fundamentalists who were against the match. The next day, many more clerics said a women's match would be against Islam. They also threatened to make a stronger agitation if the match was held. The BDO then ordered to stop the match."

BDO Biplab Roy conceded, "We had to cancel the football match because of a possible deterioration in law and order situation."

Locals were upset with the cancellation of the event. Villager Pijuskanti Das said, "Are we going backward? When the govt is inspiring women to come forward, such a dictum is disappointing."

Local Imam Maqsud Alam, however, claimed that they did not issue any fatwa against the match. "When some people sought my opinion, I just said Islam does not permit us to watch women playing in the field wearing short dresses."
Abhijit Majumder @abhijitmajumder · 6h 6 hours ago

Malda, where fatwa stopped women's football, has 52% Muslims. Hindus in minority. So instead of screams for secularism, there'll be silence
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 574190.cms
NEW DELHI: It may be even more difficult for you to identify a genuine 500-rupee note from a counterfeit one as the currency being smuggled into India by inimical agencies is now a closer imitation of the original, Delhi Police have cautioned.

Officers of the Delhi Police Special Cell point to the role of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency in pushing through notes which have a greater resemblance to India's high denomination Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 notes.

The officers said that they have been noticing for the past few months that differences between genuine and counterfeit notes were reducing and that around five such differences have actually disappeared.

"The paper being used to make the fake notes is now more similar. The stiffness is almost the same. The security thread (in the right half) on fake notes also resembles that on the genuine currency.

"The watermark (the portrait of Mahatma Gandhi in light and shade) has also been nearly matched," an officer, who did not want to be named, told IANS.

"The identification mark on the left of the note looks quite similar in counterfeit and genuine notes. The Optical variable ink also looks similar," he added.

The officer said that despite vigil by security agencies, attempts to push counterfeit notes into India had been continuing for several years and are aimed at damaging the economy.

"The ISI has developed high quality Fake Indian Currency Notes (FICN) and is pumping these into India with the help of several syndicates. These notes are similar to the genuine ones and it is not easy for the common man to detect them, deputy commissioner of police (Special Cell) Sanjeev Yadav told IANS.

"The security features on the fake notes can only be enabled on highly sophisticated machines that only the Pakistan government owns," said an officer, who has been part of a team making seizures in the capital.
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Following in the wonderful tradition of church of selling Jesus like vada paav the latest case being in Haryana where a church has been allegedly "vandalised". The details that are coming out now tell that there is more to it than what meets the eyes (what a surprise !!! :roll: )

Now, complaint against Father of the vandalised Haryana church
Haryana Chief Minister Manohar Lal Khattar on Monday informed the Haryana Assembly that a complaint has been registered against Subhash Masih — the Father of a church that was ‘vandalised’ on Sunday — for assaulting a youth who ran away from a prayer meeting where Hindu gods were allegedly insulted.

Mr. Khattar told the House that Fr. Subhash Masih had bought a 250 square yard plot in Ram Nagar colony, which had been cut on a seven acre plot.

He said Fr. Subhash had constructed two rooms and a hall but the did not have any doors or windows. "On February 8 when he was teaching Bible to 10-12 construction workers some villagers objected to it. The matter was resolved by the Sarpanch. Then Fr. Subhash went away on March 6. When he returned on March 13 he found the place vandalised and lodged a police complaint against 14 people."

The Chief Minister said residents of the village also met the Deputy Commissioner on Monday and complained against Fr. Subhash. "One youth, Umed Singh has also complained that Fr. Subhash took him to his church and conducted a prayer, which he could not understand. Umed said words were also spoken against his gods and when he objected (to it), he was beaten up. Now a report has been registered on his complaint.”

Mr. Khattar said it has also been alleged that Fr. Subhash would allure young boys with the promise of getting them married off.

The Chief Minister said everyone has a right to practice their religion and strict action will be taken to maintain peace. But he qualified the remark saying “if there is a wrong intention then it too should be checked.”


RSS Agenda?

With some Congress leaders terming it an “RSS agenda,” Finance Minister Captain Abhimanyu retorted that the names of two persons close to a senior Congress leader figured among the accused.

Indian National Lok Dal legislator from Hisar, Ranbir Gangwa, said Fr. Subhash had put up a cross on his house and some local leaders with an eye on the upcoming panchayat elections had objected to it. He said Bajrang Dal leaders from Hisar had also gone to the village and objected to the move.

Mr. Gangwa claimed that people in the village insisted that they were not behind the desecration of the church.
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IAS officer commits suicide in Bengluru

Officer was instrumental in going after the land and sand mafia.

I think black lentils only.

BTW there is a fire in Shastri Bhavan, New Delhi which houses the coal ministry. Looks like Congress deep state is reaching far and wide.
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what happens next time?
Passports have to be renewed after a certain # of years - and there are such things as mysterious delays.

BTW, here is something that seems not to have hit the PeeAreh headlines:
Government cancels licences of 1,142 NGOs to receive foreign funds.

B4 u say 'Oppressive Guvrmand!": :((
1,142 NGOs belonging to undivided Andhra Pradesh, under which they get foreign funds, for not filing their annual returns for three consecutive years.

The foreigners division of the Home Ministry has served notices to NGOs on October 16, 2014 for not filing their returns for 2009-10, 2010-11 and 2011-12 under the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act and given time to reply within 30 days.

As many as 510 notices have been returned by the postal authorities undelivered due to various reasons, including shifting of the address. There is no reply from the remaining 632 NGOs.
This is money-laundering.
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UB saar, pliss to check the NGO thread. BRF reporting is very much alive and kicking...
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:(( :((

I LOOKED for an enngeeo dhaga, but there are too many dhagas now, it is like searching Alibaba.com
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/466 ... slims.html
Dreaded terror outfit ISIS has completely failed to attract Indian Muslims into its fold as the community is fully integrated into the mainstream, Home Minister Rajnath Singh said today.

"Indian Muslims are patriots and are not swayed by fundamentalist ideologies. Extremism is alien to their nature. Moreover, India, as a country is proud of all its diversity," he said inaugurating an international conference on counter terrorism here.

Referring to the Middle-East terror group, which controls a vast territory in Iraq and Syria, the Home Minister said the influence of the Islamic State on Indian youths is negligible.
"According to our intelligence agencies, just a handful of Indian youths have joined the ISIS and some have returned after being persuaded by their families," he said.

Singh said India as a country is proud of all its diversity and has the second largest Muslim population in the world after Indonesia.

"India is home to all 73 firqas of Muslims and it houses one of the oldest church known to mankind in the world. We have been practising philosophy of peaceful coexistence for centuries," he said.
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I think this does belong on Internal Security Watch:
BANGALORE: It is observed that a growing number of Wealthy Indians are relocating to foreign lands namely UK, the U.S. and Australia.

A report draws highlights the migration between 2003 and 2013, where over 43,000 Indian high-net-worth individuals(HNWIs) have made the big move overseas. With an overall 27 percent, it follows second behind China of which 76,200 millionaires have either move abroad or obtained alternative citizenship, reports The Financial Express.
http://www.siliconindia.com/news/busine ... cid-3.html
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UlanBatori wrote::(( :((

I LOOKED for an enngeeo dhaga, but there are too many dhagas now, it is like searching Alibaba.com
It's in the burqa forum, title itself says NGO.
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Burqua phorum is not satisfactory for NGO issues related to national security. Clearly these NGOs set themselves up, get phoren phunding permission (which is not a trivial exercise - most Indian NGOs that I know refuse to apply, saying it will just bring Polis harassment onlee) and then just disappear. That is clearly not halal.
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