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Zaidi Houthis are not Iranian Puppets:
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semp ... .html#more
The zaidiyah is named for Zayd, the fifth Shia Imam. For that reason the Zaidis (or Zeidis) are often referred to as Fivers as opposed to Ismaili Shia Seveners (loyal to the memory of the seventh Imam) or Imami Twelver Shia (loyal to the 12th Imam). These different groups of Shia are NOT interchangeable in their membership and indeed are competitive in their claims as to which was the last worthy imam.

There does not exist a natural affinity between the Yemeni Zeidis and the 12er Shia of southern Iraq and Iran. The zaidiya follows a system of religious law (sharia) that more closely resembles that of the Hanafi Sunni "school" of law than that of the Shia of Iran or Iraq. The Zaidi scholars profess no allegiance to the 12er Shia scholarship of the Iranian teachers. In theology the Zaidis follow the methodology in analysis of the mu'tazila , the "rationalist" school of theology exterminated in the rest of Islam (including Iran) 1200 years ago. This system of scloarship survives only among the Zaydis. In short there is little religious connection with Iran. For a Zaydi to "convert" to 12er Shiism is as big and alienating a step as "conversion" to Sunnism. Such a change would normally lead to family, clan and tribal ostracism.

It is sometimes said that the Yemeni hill men are largely unaffected by the niceties of religion, but I would challenge that notion. I would agree that religion as the domain of scholars and priests (where they exist) does not much affect the tribesmen, but the role of religion as emblem of ethnic and tribal identity among them is strong and they will fight long and hard for that identity.
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Many Zaidis live in Delhi & UP, Agra, Muradabad area.
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Yemen has 2 different kinds of fights now:

one for resources and improper allocation of resources etc.

other is to ensure that there is no split of Yemen - no S yemen in any fashion. Even in terms of devolved federalized power. Most of the oil is in the Maarib region and KSA just wants to ensure access to Bab el Mandeb and the Maarib region. Hence the concern reg Aden, Maarib etc.

The rumor about overt Iran support for the Houthis is the rumor mills working overtime, IMO. The Iranians are stretched thin as it is in the Iraqi Syrian crisis and I don't know if they even have enough cash to ensure that all hearths can be kept warm in Iran. While I cant certainly say this is the motive - the prospect of a Iranian deal will have loomed large in KSA's decision chart while charting this course... apart from an 27-35yr old idiot who is also playing a bit part in this decision [Salman's son is the new defense minister]

There are advantages though. If this calculation goes awry, KSA will have trouble both internally and externally. I think that will be the best case scenario.
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Zaidi is a (common?) naam-e-Bakistani, hain?
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Saudi hints that it would go nuclear if a deal with Iran was reached has alarming portents for the entire Asian region. Reports say that "60%" of the cost of thye Paki arsenal/development of N-weapons has been funded by the Saudis.It has long been suspected that the Saudi Chinese supplied BMs were to have been tipped with Paki built N-warheads,some which may already be in secret Saudi locations just waiting to be mated to their missiles.If a Sunni-Israeli alliance is forged,it would be a dramatic moment for the MEast,as the most fundoo of elements like ISIS,AlQ,etc. will be fighting against whom? Todays enemies becoming tomorrow's bum-chums appears to be a scenario changing as frequently as the annual seasons!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 45019.html

Iran nuclear talks: Prospect of deal with Iran pushes Saudi Arabia and Israel into an unlikely alliance
Netanyahu lines up with Saudis' Sunni bloc against 'expansionist' Iran
Kim Sengupta
Diplomatic correspondent
Monday 30 March 2015

Foreign ministers from Iran, the US and five other world powers including Britain were tonight preparing for a final 24 hours of intense negotiations that could change the Middle East’s political landscape for years to come.

US officials said the talks in Lausanne over Iran’s nuclear programme, whose deadline for a “framework” agreement is midnight tomorrow night, would go “to the wire”.

China’s Foreign Minister, Wang Yi, was “cautiously optimistic”. His German counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeier said “there had been some progress and also some setbacks in the last hours”.

But as officials alternately expressed optimism and gloom over the prospects, two Middle Eastern countries were observing the apparent progress in Lausanne with grave alarm – and are moving towards cementing an unlikely alliance as a result.

Both Israel and Saudi Arabia have repeatedly claimed that Tehran is intent on acquiring a nuclear arsenal, regardless of whatever pledges it makes, and that its hand will merely be strengthened by the lifting of economic sanctions as part of an agreement. Both see Iran with nuclear weapons as a direct threat to their existence which must be confronted.

Co-operation between Israel and Sunni states in the region was already growing in response to Shia Iran’s expanding influence in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and, most recently, Yemen.

But the Obama administration’s enthusiasm for the nuclear talks, plus its arms-length co-operation with Tehran in the fight against Isis in Iraq and Syria, has done most to bring Israel and Saudi Arabia closer. In the run-up to Israeli elections, officials including advisers to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu were keen to stress the strategic advantage of their secret understanding with the Sunni bloc.

One senior security official in Tel Aviv said: “Necessity creates alliances. The necessity for us and the Saudis in particular – as well as the Gulf states, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE, Jordan and Egypt – is to be on our guard against Iran, which is an aggressive, expansionist power. We think the nuclear deal that the Iranians may persuade the international community to sign would make all of us vulnerable in this region, and so co-operation makes sense.”

Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday stressed the danger to the region that he said was posed by the terms likely to be agreed in Lausanne by the P5+1 group of the US, UK, France, Russia, Germany and China with Iran. The course of the talks, said the Israeli Prime Minister has “confirmed our concerns and proved to be even worse”. Israel was not the only country that would be in the firing line of Iranians, who wanted to “conquer” the whole of the Middle East, he maintained.

READ MORE: • What are the sticking points?
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Mr Netanyahu pointedly warned of an “Iran-Lausanne-Yemen axis”. Saudi Arabia has taken the lead against that “axis”, by forming a Sunni coalition against Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen, whom the Kingdom’s warplanes are currently bombing.

Prince Turki al-Faisal, a former head of Saudi intelligence and ambassador to Washington and London, warned that a deal with Iran could lead to nuclear proliferation. “Whatever comes out of all these talks, we will want the same,” he said. “If Iran has the ability to enrich uranium to whatever level, it’s not just Saudi Arabia that’s going to ask for that. The whole world will be shown an open door to go down that route.”

The Saudis have formed an alliance against the Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen The Saudis have formed an alliance against the Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen (AP)

Israeli officials have claimed privately in the past that Saudi Arabia would turn a blind eye if Israeli warplanes needed to overfly its territory to strike at Iranian targets, although the Saudis are said to be keen for Israel to revive the stalled negotiations over a Palestinian state. One Western diplomat based in Brussels reportedly said: “The Saudi authorities are completely coordinated with Israel on all matters related to Iran.”

Two months earlier Israel’s intelligence service, Mossad, and Saudi officials were said to have met to share intelligence on Iran and there were claims that Riyadh was prepared to assist proactively in any anti-Tehran mission, facilitating the use of helicopters to rescue any downed flight crew and air-to-air refuelling for Israeli aircraft.

Last year, Prince Turki publicly met the former Israeli military intelligence chief, General Amos Yadlin, in Brussels. General Amos Gilad, the former director of the Israeli defence ministry’s policy department, said Israel had a behind-the-scenes working relationship with the Sunni states. “Everything is underground,” he said. “The Arabs will never accept this publicly but they are clever enough to promote common ground.”

Robert Emerson, a security analyst, said: “The feeling of anger against [Netanyahu] among Democrats in the US is very deep. Until the next American election, Bibi can only hope that the Republicans will try to block any deal in Congress. So for now, Israel is forced to play a regional game in the Middle-East.”

The Republicans may, however, have difficulty in getting the numbers needed block the lifting of sanctions. Mr Netanyahu’s address to the US congress was viewed as a snub to President Barack Obama, and has angered members of the Congressional Black Caucus. James Clyburn, assistant minority leader, described the speech as an “affront to America’s first black president”.

Benjamin Netanyahu warned on Monday of an ‘Iran-Lausanne-Yemen’ axis (AFP/Getty Images) Benjamin Netanyahu warned on Monday of an ‘Iran-Lausanne-Yemen’ axis (AFP/Getty Images)

Mr Obama has pledged to veto two bills aimed at preventing the lifting of sanctions and, without the Black Caucus, Congress may be unable to summon the two thirds majority needed to override him.

Meanwhile in Lausanne, differences remained over the time limits on uranium enrichment, the lifting of economic sanctions and their re-imposition if Tehran breaches an agreement, and the shipping of enriched uranium out of Iran.

Philip Hammond, the Foreign Secretary, added: “We are here because we believe a deal can be done. But it has to be a deal which puts the bomb beyond Iran’s reach. There can’t be any compromise about that.”
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John Bolton. :D Boltons :rotfl:

Red wedding is under plan for Saudis??? :mrgreen:

Khan is planing another war this time to to be fought by munnas with only vedio games supplied by Khan. From now onwards Khan will keep ME hot with wars.

Song of Oil and Sand. :mrgreen:
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Yemen imbroglio means Islamism is the only game in West Asia.
It goes back to Ummayad vs Ali type fight.

If Yemen falls to Houthis then we will see re-drawing the maps
and Sindh separating from Bakistan.
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KSA's extreme reaction to the Houthi makes me think the regime has real fears of a Shia uprising within their own borders. This is a country whose military has always been very lukewarm about getting engaged in real combat. They barely even contributed to the first Gulf War in 1991, and this was when the kingdom was facing a real external threat from Saddam's Iraq. If there was ever a reason to fight, that was it. And yet even then, KSA was very half-hearted about getting into the fight. The only ground combat KSA troops took part in was repelling the Iraqi ground incursion at Khafji (with US marines and air power doing most of the work), and even with all that help they didn't acquit themselves very well.

KSA's willingness to undertake a huge ground offensive with 150,000 troops is very telling; it makes me think that they genuinely fear a major Shia uprising in the kingdom if the Houthi example is not stamped out ruthlessly. Shias may only comprise 20-25% of the Saudi population but as we've seen in Yemen, they can be a potent force even as the minority. This seems like a great opportunity to get KSA sucked into a meatgrinder, but only if the Houthi have been supplied with sufficient arms already. Now that Yemen has been completely blockaded by air and sea, it's too late to help the Houthi in any significant way. I hope the Russians and\or Iranians have already done the needful, because at this point the only way to supply the Houthi would be to challenge the Saudi\Arab blockade. No way the Russians or Iranians are going to do that.
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If we see this Yemen crisis as an extension of the North Yemen Civil War things fall into place.
The Houthis are essentially North Yemenis.

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Y. Kanan wrote:KSA's extreme reaction to the Houthi makes me think the regime has real fears of a Shia uprising within their own borders. . . . The only ground combat KSA troops took part in was repelling the Iraqi ground incursion at Khafji (with US marines and air power doing most of the work), and even with all that help they didn't acquit themselves very well.
Y.Kanan, you are absolutely right about the Al Khafji fight. The Americans saved the day as otherwise, it was a straight [excellent] highway drive for the Iraqis from there to Al Jubail and the nearby huge storage farms and oil terminals at Ras Tanura etc.. Another 100 odd Kms from Jubail would be Khobar/Dhahran and across the causeway was Bahrain. The Iraqi troops would have enjoyed complete support from the disgruntled Shi'a in these regions.

The Shi'a situation has grown even bigger compared to those days along the entire eastern seaboard of the Persian Gulf.
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ramana wrote:If we see this Yemen crisis as an extension of the South Yemen Civil War things fall into place.
The Houthis are essentially South Yemenis
You wanted to mean that the Houthis are North Yemenis instead? All data points seem to point to the fact that they (Houthis) are the northerners who don't want a federalized south? Apart from ensuring that some oil revenue gets shared equally rather than just in the South.

In a relevant sidenote: KSA will surely be worried also because their oil rich region is all in the east which is also Shia dominated. Ouch.
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this hyena was apparently captured in Tikrit. not sure of its provenance whether escaped from a private zoo or was someone's pet.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... bels-yemen

Should be interesting to see which way the wind blows in this battle between the Houthis and the Southis (of Arabia).
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^^ Singha - have you actually moved to Socotra? :-) Having the best seat in the show that's happening in the ME?
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So the Sunni coalition controls all sea and air access to Yemen. How long before the Houthi's run out of food, medicine, fuel, ammunition, etc.?

I guess Iran, with the backing of Russia, could send humanitarian (and other) aid (forcefully break the blockade)? Or they could secretly ship supplies to Yemen? If not, then the Sunni's have already won the war.
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The Saudis, like their ummah brothers in Pakistan, have been targetting civilian population. I hope all Indians are safely evacuated soon.
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a CNN team has reached the center of tikrit, though other parts remain under ISIS control
saddam palace complex is also in govt hands. it was located on the riverside and pounded heavily by US planes recently.

Christiane Amanpour ‏@camanpour 22h22 hours ago
#Tikrit liberated from ISIS. YES!!!
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NYT article says focus will be on try and clean Anbar province next, but credible Sunni militas and leaders are hard to find as most of these from 2007 sunni uprising against AQ are dead, retired, deposed or discredited

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Once Saudi "boys" start coming home in body bags,there will be rumblings at home and the empire will crumble.Why they have cleverly preferred to fund wars and shoot from another's shoulder,the US/West,etc. Here they want another "Arab army" with a motley mercenary bunch of Egyptians and Pakis too,(T.E.Lawrence must be laughing in his grave) to do the needful while they use their air power! Yemen is now finished as a nation state and the "oil wars" have literally spilled over into yet another country. perhaps historians ....if any are left in the future,will look back upon these wars which have lasted in the Muslim world now for a couple of decades,as WW3.

Adding to the flames is the US decision to release mil aid to Egypt so that it can take part in the carnage!

Yemen nears 'total collapse' as country cut off from aid deliveries
Almost 100 civilians killed in five days as Saudi-led airstrikes target Houthi strongholds and street fights continue
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... eries.html
Huge plumes of smoke rise above buildings during airstrikes allegedly carried out by the Saudi-led alliance on a weapons storage depot in Sana’a, Yemen Photo: EPA/JABER GHURAB
By Louisa Loveluck, Cairo
7:36PM BST 31 Mar 2015

The United Nations said Yemen was nearing "total collapse" on Tuesday as airstrikes and fierce street fighting deepened the country's humanitarian crisis.

"The situation in Yemen is extremely alarming, with dozens of civilians killed over the past four days," Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, said in a statement. "The country seems to be on the verge of total collapse."

A Saudi-led military coalition has been pounding rebel positions in Yemen since last Wednesday night in an attempt to halt their march across the country.

The Houthis – members of the Zaydi sect of Shia Islam – swept into the capital, Sanaa, in January, placing the President Abd Rabbu Mansour Hadi under house arrest and later forcing him to flee.

Aid agencies said on Tuesday that the closure of air and sea ports was preventing the delivery of emergency aid. At least 93 civilians have been killed and 364 wounded across five Yemeni cities in as many days, according to UN figures.

Tribal gunmen loyal to the Houthi movement brandish their weapons in Sana'a (AFP)

The Red Cross has called for help negotiating safe passage for an aid shipment carrying enough medical supplies to treat at least 700 people. The organisation said one of its local aid workers was shot dead on Monday evacuating wounded residents in south Yemen.

At least 40 people were killed on Monday when an airstrike pulverised a refugee camp near the Saudi border. The UN says dozens of Yemeni refugees have fled to northern Somalia, reversing the well-worn path usually taken by African migrants escaping violence at home.

Although Yemen's conflict stems from a multi-layered set of local grievances, it also a proxy battleground for Saudi Arabia and its arch-rival Iran, which backs the Houthis.

Yemeni women supporting the Shiite Houthi movement shout slogans during a rally in Sanaa (AFP)

Houthi fighters fought pitched battles across the country on Tuesday, backed by army units loyal to the country's powerful former president Ali Abdullah Saleh. For the first time in the conflict, they reportedly exchanged fire with Saudi forces along several stretches of the northern border.

The rebels also continued their push to take the port city of Aden, Mr Hadi's final stronghold. Video footage from several neighbourhoods showed fierce cat and mouse street battles unfolding.

The conflict represents a major hurdle to Washington's longstanding drone war against al-Qaeda militants, who have exploited the power vacuum in Yemen since Mr Saleh's resignation. Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) said on Tuesday that it had attacked Houthi targets in the northern governorate of Al Bayda.

The Houthis and AQAP are bitter enemies and a spokesman for the jihadists said on Tuesday that the rivals were "in an open war".
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Putin letter to Arab summit triggers strong Saudi attack
(Reuters) - Saudi Arabia accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of hypocrisy on Sunday, telling an Arab summit that he should not express support for the Middle East while fuelling instability by supporting Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.

In a rare move, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi announced that a letter from Putin would be read out to the gathering in Egypt, where Arab leaders discussed an array of regional crises, including conflicts in Syria, Yemen and Libya.

"We support the Arabs' aspirations for a prosperous future and for the resolution of all the problems the Arab world faces through peaceful means, without any external interference," Putin said in the letter.

His comments triggered a sharp attack from Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal.

"He speaks about the problems in the Middle East as though Russia is not influencing these problems," he told the summit right after the letter was read out.

Relations between Saudi Arabia and Russia have been cool over Moscow's support for Assad, whom Riyadh opposes. The civil war between Assad's forces and rebels has cost more than 200,000 lives in four years.

"They speak about tragedies in Syria while they are an essential part of the tragedies befalling the Syrian people, by arming the Syrian regime above and beyond what it needs to fight its own people," Prince Saud said.

"I hope that the Russian president corrects this so that the Arab world's relations with Russia can be at their best level."

The Saudi rebuke may have been awkward for summit host Egypt, which depends heavily on billions of dollars in support from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab allies, but has also improved ties with Moscow.

In February, Putin received a grand welcome in Egypt, signaling a rapprochement.
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Saudis talking about Syria! Atleast Syria is not affected by naval blockade unlike Yemen. One can clearly see power of controlling the seas by colonials and post colonial superpowers.
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Syrian Naval Blockade was saved because Russia Naval stations were there though relatively small one , else US was on the verge of blocking Syria and had deployed many ships
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Slemani Times ‏@SlemaniTimes 17m17 minutes ago

#Istanbul under siege as gunmen are currently roaming the streets following attempted suicide attack on police HQ.
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guess we missed this.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 055229.ece

Since when did Suhasini Haidar begin to write sense? A nicely written article, btw.
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Iraqi PM carrying the flag through downtown Tikrit

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More goodies in and around Aden. In the chicken neck region Khor Maskar region.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/ ... me=topNews

Tanks, RPG and AFV's. Bring 'em on.
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it might happen the houthis gain control of the south, but the sunnis keep bombing them from the air and some sort of sanctions are put to starve the country of trade and money.

their only resourse as they are not well equipped would be to set fire to eastern provinces of saudi arabia and bahrain.

so far the saudis have shown no stomach to cross the border and put boots on ground and neither has its great allies like egypt, sudan and TSP.
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Cross-posting

I think it is time for MAD to do some tactical aggression on Pakistan. Put pressure on Pakistan, be it on the LoC, or on the sea, for example for kidnapping our fishermen. Sink a Paki naval ship or two.

Make it known to the Saudis-Emiratis-Qataris that if they want their Paki mercenary force for Yemen, they would have to pay India more than they pay those mercenaries. Take a steep price.

Secondly if Pakistan goes into Yemen, India should see to it, that all those Pakis meet their Keema-Pressers as soon as possible with maximum publicity. India should help Houthis with some form of SAM, be it Akash or something else. After all if the Houthis can hold back the Sunni onslaught, then that would be excellent publicity for our weapon systems, and would let the Sunnis know that they can't ignore India.

We need to be in this war, without dragging Republic of India's good name too much into it. This is where the need for some mercenary force or proxies shows up!

I think a Zaidi nation (Shi'a but a little different) at the tip of the Arabian Peninsula would be excellent for India and keeping Saudis in check! We need some way of putting direct pressure on them as well.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32157239

Now the spokesman speaks. I think its Brig Gnrl As(s)iri?
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well I think we should encourage TSP to get embroiled in a occupation of Yemen.
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I wish they did. Should be fun to see. Will there be yet another scam in coffins / bodybags? Yemen goes rogue Yama(n) rejoices.
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Playing around in Af along with Iran might be a good strategy too.

The FakAp region surely does need some stirring.
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I think Afpak is the area we need to play. If Pakis are playing in M.E. leaving the areas wherein they are already weak then they will be making serious mistake.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 781343.cms
Al-Qaeda frees 300 inmates in Yemen jailbreak
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RajeshA wrote:

I think it is time for MAD to do some tactical aggression on Pakistan. Put pressure on Pakistan, be it on the LoC, or on the sea, for example for kidnapping our fishermen. Sink a Paki naval ship or two.

Make it known to the Saudis-Emiratis-Qataris that if they want their Paki mercenary force for Yemen, they would have to pay India more than they pay those mercenaries. Take a steep price.

Secondly if Pakistan goes into Yemen, India should see to it, that all those Pakis meet their Keema-Pressers as soon as possible with maximum publicity. India should help Houthis with some form of SAM, be it Akash or something else. After all if the Houthis can hold back the Sunni onslaught, then that would be excellent publicity for our weapon systems, and would let the Sunnis know that they can't ignore India.

We need to be in this war, without dragging Republic of India's good name too much into it. This is where the need for some mercenary force or proxies shows up!

I think a Zaidi nation (Shi'a but a little different) at the tip of the Arabian Peninsula would be excellent for India and keeping Saudis in check! We need some way of putting direct pressure on them as well.
I like your idea. However we shouldn't send Akash missiles to Yemen, but the older Russian system we have, MANPAD's too, as well as antitank missiles. A pressure point to the south of the Saudi's (Yemen) with Indian influence there, would be invaluable. India would have a spear pointing directly at the Saudi's.

As for an Indian mercenary force, it can be arranged in days if the political will is there.

India must not allow the Saudi's to defeat the Houthi's,
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Singha wrote:well I think we should encourage TSP to get embroiled in a occupation of Yemen.
I would like to see both sides bleed each other. At the moment, Houthis look to be on retreat. We should stem that and "ease" this conflict into a war of attrition. It should be an "ahuthi" of mlecchas to the Vajrastra-dhari himself! To all the devas for whom the blood of Jihadis is the soma in this kali yuga! To the bhairava whose tandava is a result of the joy of seeing Jihadis bleed and die.

the longer this conflict goes on, the better for Bharat. Let them gouge each other. And let us help them do it. In the process, Islamists of one stripe are forced to liquidate the theocratic-military capabilities of Islamists of another stripe. And they do it to each other so both sides emerge from it weaker in strength.
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^^
Not our war and keep it that way.
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Singha wrote:well I think we should encourage TSP to get embroiled in a occupation of Yemen.

The West Punjab region had no military leader for the last millennia. They were all Pakjabi Gungadins for Turco-Afghan-Persian looters.


IOW they will rush in once the existing combatants are dead to claim a victorious flourish.

Even their vaunted Pakjabi Army tell me what were its victories under the British in both World Wars? It was only after the British dropped martial races theory and opened up the recruitment to all Indians that they started winning.
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Looks like KSA airstrikes were brutus fulmen :useless thunderbolts.
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