Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 May 2015 21:00

MoS Home Kien Reijju says clearly to the dhimmedia today that "MHA is yet to take a decision on the cricket series. The sentiment of the people must be respected."

The sentiment he talks about is that of the BJP votebase which wants nothing to do with pak, period.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 May 2015 21:08

From Twitter:

>>Dawn.com ‏@dawn_com 2h2 hours ago
Zimbabwe cancels Pakistan tour on the advice of its sports regulatory http://dawn.com/news/1181947/ #cricket

kish · Post by **kish** » 14 May 2015 21:21

saip wrote:Zimbabwe tour abandoned and then un-abandoned all in a space of 15 minutes.

Dawn

Saar, this is typical paki media propaganda to save their H&D onlee. Else Aam abduls would kill few more fellow muslims to show their anger against zimbabwe.

Paki media act as prozac for pakis, they know how to peddle a lie to keep pakis calm.

This is like how
a) pakis won 1971 war
b) pakis won kargil war
c) Xi's visit to pak rivaling obama's visit for Republic day parade.

Zimbabwe, which was due to reach Lahore on May 19 conveyed its decision to the Pakistan Cricket Board after consulting its government and security experts following the terrorist incident.

A source in the PCB told PTI that Cricket Zimbabwe had officially informed the PCB about the cancellation

Zimbabwe call off Pakistan tour after Karachi bus attack

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 14 May 2015 21:31

What stops them I wonder.

modi should do this..modi should do that.

why is modi not doing this. why is modi not doing that.

he is same as MMS. i spit on him and piss on him.

really???

get a grip people.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 14 May 2015 21:31

KLNMurthy wrote: Maybe...

It is a kind of probing test they can't help doing. Each time India "surrenders" they have to push the envelope to find out how thorough and deep the surrender is: in other words, push India to make the surrender uninterrupted and uninterruptible, because you know, the jingos on "both " sides, that is to say Hindu Terrorists, will succeed in their nefarious agenda otherwise.

So it may not be sabotaging but stress-testing the commitment of the dhimmis. A by-the-book protocol with Quran and Muslim military history being the textbooks.

+100

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 14 May 2015 21:40

CRamS wrote:.....But that said, this whole crap is being framed by DDM and others from the false premise that "Kirket and politics should not be mixed". ..... I mean politics is about disagreement on a trade deal or monetary policy etc. But this is about Indian lives, and TSP's obsession to undo India.

+100

Yes, disagreement over Indus waters or MFN status or transit rights to Afghanistan, etc. need not hold up cricket with Pakistan.

But the violent ending of lives is different. In Pakistan killing of people may be legitimate politics in their definition of politics, but then that invalidates the "sports & politics should not be mixed".

member_28911 · Post by **member_28911** » 14 May 2015 21:47

ESPNcricinfo
Just in: Zimbabwe Cricket has suspended the tour to Pakistan on the advice of the country's sports regulatory body.

. Let the whining

start.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 14 May 2015 21:48

Before inviting Pakistanis, please settle Kashmiri Pandits first in Kashmir which is an ancestral land of Kashmiri Pandit community. We have our priorities all messed up and then ossified even. Pakistanis should be told about everything that Pakistanis did since 1947 repeatedly.

May be Pakis can play Bangladeshis in Sharjah and line up records and emerge as champions 'internationally'.

Melwyn · Post by **Melwyn** » 14 May 2015 21:55

India Today group twitter account claims govt. has approved Indo-Pak series... But a few hours later, one of its own journos claims that no nod yet!!!
Again lies by media.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 14 May 2015 22:00

Article worth quoting in full :
70 Pakistanis deported from UK arrive

RAWALPINDI:As many as 70 Pakistanis, including two women, who were deported from the UK arrived at the Islamabad airport on Wednesday.

They were escorted by 140 British security officials during their journey.

After handing the deportees over to the Pakistani immigration authorities, the UK security officials returned to their home country.

A senior official of Federal Investigation Agency’s (FIA) immigration wing told Dawn that a special flight with 70 Pakistani illegal immigrants overstaying in the UK landed here at Benazir Bhutto International Airport on Wednesday.

He said two women had been overstaying in the UK as none of them was involved in any crime either in the UK or in Pakistan. All of them were allowed to go home after brief questioning.

The immigration official said that as many as 140 security officials from UK were guarding the Pakistani deportees in the flight since they left the Heathrow airport for Islamabad.

He said the strategy of deploying two security personnel on one passenger was in line with the standard operating procedure (SOP).

“They don’t take risk of any trouble created by passengers especially in the middle of the journey and therefore they deployed two security personnel for one person,” the immigration official said.

He said all of the deportees were allowed to go to their homes after brief questioning.
Cheers

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 14 May 2015 22:56

These different reports suggest confusion in the ranks of ModiJi & Co. Looks like some want to, while others want to hold on. We shouldn't even be debating this. But mera Bharat mahan.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 14 May 2015 23:14

Peregrine wrote:Article worth quoting in full :
70 Pakistanis deported from UK arrive
He said the strategy of deploying two security personnel on one passenger was in line with the standard operating procedure (SOP).

Looks like Bakis have a noo farmoola:

1 TFTA Baki == 2 TFTA Briturds

=> Baki is still soup-e-rear!

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 14 May 2015 23:17

Hari Seldon wrote:From Twitter:

>>Dawn.com ‏@dawn_com 2h2 hours ago
Zimbabwe cancels Pakistan tour on the advice of its sports regulatory http://dawn.com/news/1181947/ #cricket

Misfortunately for Bakistan, the fundoo bunnies know timing very well. You can count on them for fabulous cover drives!

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 15 May 2015 00:09

RCase wrote:
Misfortunately for Bakistan, the fundoo bunnies know timing very well. You can count on them for fabulous cover drives!

http://dawn.com/news/1181947/%20%20#cricket
..But after the news release was issued, the statement was withdrawn and Zimbabwe Cricket spokesman Lovemore Banda

told Reuters that discussions were still on-going.

So Lovemore Banda doesn't show any love for Pukes.

-M

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 15 May 2015 02:19

Arjun wrote: Shia Ismailis (Khojas and Bohras) are a successful business community - mainly because they are converted Hindu Lohanas who still retain some Hindu customs.

Indian Ismailis would be keen to assist in relocation of their brethren in Pakistan, who form a very small percentage of the much larger Shia community...GOI should green-light this. No better opportunity to further weaken the Pakistan economy than by depopulating it of its few entrepreneurs.

Only Khojas are Ismailis not Bohra's. Gujrati Lohanas who were converted under the sword became Khoja's (Including Qauid- e- Sadan Jinnah), Gujju Brahmin's who converted became Bohra's and Gujju Bania's who converted became Memons.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 May 2015 02:45

He is Loveless Panda!

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 15 May 2015 03:16

CRamS wrote:These different reports suggest confusion in the ranks of ModiJi & Co. Looks like some want to, while others want to hold on. We shouldn't even be debating this. But mera Bharat mahan.

Or they could just be further confirmation of the crap that passes for reporting in DDM circles. It could also suggest an infantile level of stubborn naievete on the part of avid consumers of DDM crap.

saip · Post by **saip** » 15 May 2015 03:41

Something is cooking. After the bus massacre they have lost no time in blaming RAW for it. Some idiot in London (Lord Nazir) has said 'he has concrete evidence' of Indian involvement. All this preparation for another Mumbai?

Link

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 15 May 2015 03:45

Pakis are blaming RAW of killing of minorities -- this is just a ploy by the paki scum to commit genocide of their minorities and blaming India for it.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 15 May 2015 04:55

Tuvaluan wrote:Pakis are blaming RAW of killing of minorities -- this is just a ploy by the paki scum to commit genocide of their minorities and blaming India for it.

Q is, are the Baki quaoms buying it? After Motorma's sunroof-shaheed stunt, nobody blamed India for instance.

AFAIK, the Baloch are lost completely to Pak. So also the Baltistanis. The Mohajirs slip out a little every day. Shias are headed on the same path. Pathans I dunno about.

Apt toon to depict the situ.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 15 May 2015 05:58

Tuvaluan wrote:Pakis are blaming RAW of killing of minorities -- this is just a ploy by the paki scum to commit genocide of their minorities and blaming India for it.

They've been doing it since their inception. Will blaming us at this stage make any difference?

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 15 May 2015 06:37

Vipul wrote:Only Khojas are Ismailis not Bohra's. Gujrati Lohanas who were converted under the sword became Khoja's (Including Qauid- e- Sadan Jinnah), Gujju Brahmin's who converted became Bohra's and Gujju Bania's who converted became Memons.

Both Khojas and Bohras are Ismaili - Khojas from Nizari branch and Bohras from Mustaali. Check out the wiki on Ismailis.

Possible that Bohras were Nagar Brahmins....As regards Memons, most internet sources (including wiki) place them as converted Lohanas.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 15 May 2015 07:59

Lisa wrote:"Kirket and politics should not be mixed"

Lets organise a match in any muslim country with a guest team from Israel then.

(P.S. Post not aimed ay anyone in particular)

[OT]

unfortunately the onlee muslim countries recgonizing Israeli passport are egypt , turkey , Kazakhstan , Uzbekistan , Tajikistan and Turkmenistan . An israeli team cannot enter other muslim countries.. (without the Israeli Army invading the given country).. An Israeli citizen cannot enter UAE even ...

though I am not sure if the "moslem" former soviet territories are considered Islamic by the big momeens ...

cosidering the fact that they have such un-islamic volley ball players

How about India , Israel and Kazakhstan tri-series to be hosted on Kazakh soil ? I would surely book the ticket...

[/ot]

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 May 2015 09:04

Not just Dawood Ibrahim, MHA to turn up heat on Pakistan for action against wanted terrorists - Aman Sharma, Economic Times

After being left red-faced over the fiasco on Dawood Ibrahim with Home Minister Rajnath Singh forced to explain in Parliament that his Ministry had no doubt that the don was in Pakistan, the government has decided to ratchet up legal pressure on Pakistan on other most-wanted terrorists.

Senior Home Ministry officials have told ET that a Letter Rogatory (LR) will be sent soon to Pakistan to ask about the "location" of Indian Mujahedeen (IM) top leader Riyaz Bhatkal as India believes he is hiding in Karachi, and "confirmation" of the Pakistani identity of IM's chief bomb-maker Zia-ur-Rehman alias Waqas who was arrested by the Delhi Police last year. The government has also decided to approach the United Nations Security Council to obtain UN sanctions against the Hizbul Mujahedeen chief Syed Salahuddin, who is based in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (PoK), and declare him an international terrorist under UN Security Council Resolution 1267 of the Al-Qaida Sanctions Committee .

India's case before the UN is that Salahuddin had headed the United Jehad Council which is related to the Al-Qaeda. Dawood was listed by the UN similarly in 2003 for his association with Al-Qaeda.

The LR regarding Riyaz Bhatkal and Waqas will be sent through a court in a case of the National Investigation Agency (NIA) regarding the Dilsukhnagar blasts in Hyderabad in 2013 in which both are named as an accused, ministry officials said. "We believe Riyaz Bhatkal is in Karachi and coordinating the Indian Mujahedeen modules from there. Pakistan will be asked to investigate the proof we have and ascertain his location," the ministry official said. India is also keen to confront Pakistan with the identity of Waqas, who is behind making bombs used by IM in major terror strikes, and was arrested by Delhi Police last March. NIA had specified his address in a charge-sheet last year: Chek No. 296, Gojara, Toba Tek Singh, Mustafabad, Punjab, Pakistan.

The charge-sheet submitted last September said Waqas had plotted his Pakistani address in presence of the independent witnesses. "He has plotted down his native village Chak 298 JB, Gojra in Pakistan. He also plotted down the LeT training camp, where he underwent training, besides plotting down FATA area in North Waziristan, where he underwent Taliban training," the charge-sheet said. To prove that Riyaz is in Pakistan, the charge-sheet said the online chats he had with other IM operatives in in India showed his IP account belonged to Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited. "IM is receiving financial and material assistance from the ISI, backed by the Government of Pakistan, which is providing shelter to several absconding senior operatives of the IM in Karachi and in other places in Pakistan." The LR is expected to furnish all this as proof, asking Pakistan to further investigate it.

The NIA case is that Riyaz Bhatkal now based in Pakistan had deputed Waqas to go from Pakistan to India in September 2010 after receiving terror training in Pakistan. NIA has incidentally submitted five LRs earlier to Pakistan in various other cases - the David Headley-Tahawwur Rana case, a case involving arrest of a LeT operative Mohd Zia Ul Haq in Hyderabad, two cases involving terror and hawala activities of the Hizbul Mujahedeen and a general case against the conspiracy hatched by the Indian Mujahedeen. "Pakistan has so far not replied to any of our LRs," a Ministry official conceded.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 15 May 2015 10:49

So how is it we will be turning up the heat?

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 15 May 2015 11:55

shiv wrote:
ramana wrote:So Pak Shias have to fight for self-determination in TSP itself. Escape is not an option.
Unfortunately - this is more wishful thinking than what I expect reality to be. Indian Shias, a successful business community have the clout to get many Pakistani shia relatives into India. What is more important under the circumstances is for imports from Pakistan to toe the Indian line 101%. Or else.

The shias are untrustworthy lot. Till late 70s many shias went to Pakistan. For Every India-Pak cricket match shias will cheer for Pakisatan, even today. According to many shias, the bombs released by IAF on Karachi were caught by Fakirs in their jolas to protect Mozlems from Kafirs' outrage.

There something in Qur'an that converts a convert to a degree that he/she forgets all the past, live up for all the mozlems in the world - inimical or not inimical to their existence.

The bohras, might have converted from Brahmins but are the most polished bigot types and cannot be trusted for any reason.

After the Mumbai taj attack, shias took out processions in Mumbai and distributed leaflets in which they indirectly justified the attack citing Bhagat Singh and calling him a terrorist.

Never trust any of these highly codified bunch of confused fundamentalist bigots - whatever is their firka (denomination). there is no soft-liner who reads or believes in the coded book.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 May 2015 11:56

Stop RAW from using Afghan soil against Pakistan, Kabul told - DT

Foreign Office spokesman Qazi Khalil Ullah stated on Thursday that the government has urged Afghanistan not to allow its territory to be used by Indian spy agency RAW for any negative activities in Pakistan.

He said that Pakistan-Afghanistan bilateral relations stipulate that we will not allow our respective territories to be used against each other. Pakistan has conveyed its concerns to Afghanistan that RAW must not use Afghan territory to create instability in Pakistan.

Multatuli · Post by **Multatuli** » 15 May 2015 13:11

About the killing of Ishmaili's, Qadiani and other such groups in Pakistan: I think there is sufficient reason for orthodox Muslims to consider them as heretics. And Islam prescribes a specific way of dealing with such heretics. Why should we criticize the orthodox Muslim for dealing with the Ishmaili's/Qadiani in accordance with Islam? They are simply following their religion (of peace). Why, even the 'Mahatma' did not want to criticize Muslims for killing Hindus (Moplah Rebellion) because they were simply following their religion.

arun · Post by **arun** » 15 May 2015 13:55

arun wrote:Zimbabwe cricketers looking to tour the Islamic Republic of Pakistan warned by Tony Irish, executive chairman of the Federation of International Cricketers’ Associations, that they are taking on an unacceptable risk:

Tony Irish, executive chairman of the Federation of International Cricketers’ Associations, wrote in an email to the Associated Press on Monday that “an international tour to Pakistan remains an unacceptable risk”

Irish said FICA’s security consultants advise that teams should not travel because “the security environment cannot be controlled or influenced to an extent that the risk becomes acceptable”.
From here:

Zimbabwe’s cricketers told not to tour Pakistan after safety warning

Zimbabwe government advises against touring Pakistan

Pakistan's hopes of hosting its first international home series since 2009 took a massive blow when Zimbabwe government advised its team against touring over security fears. …………………………

Zimbabwe Cricket sent a press release confirming the suspension of the tour but another email quickly followed confirming that discussions were "ongoing and the final position will be announced as and when".

“We have consulted on the security situation in Pakistan with particular reference to your intended cricket tour of the country and have been advised that it would not be safe for the team to travel to Pakistan at this point in time,” the initial email quoted Sports and Recreation Commission director-general Retired Colonel Charles Nhemachena as saying to ZC CEO. …………………………..

Strategy of Punjabi Military dominated deep state of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to whip up Mohammadden religious fervor in order to indoctrinate hatred for the purpose of targeting Hindu’s in India is clearly not a consequence free option for the Islamic Republic herself.

Clearly whipping up Mohammadden religious fervor in the Islamic Republic has also uncorked the genie of sectarian hatred towards other Mohammaddens resulting in Wednesday’s blood bath in Karachi and scaring away of Non-Mohammaddens like the cricket team from Zimbabwe.

Bottom line is fomenting Mohammadden Terrorism in order to target Hindu’s and India has severely baleful consequences for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan herself.

Rajagopal · Post by **Rajagopal** » 15 May 2015 14:16

RoyG wrote:So how is it we will be turning up the heat?

Senior Home Ministry officials have told ET that a Letter Rogatory (LR) will be sent soon to Pakistan to ask about the "location" of Indian Mujahedeen (IM) top leader Riyaz Bhatkal.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

We will write so many letters to Paksatan that they will die of fatigue reading our letters.

Death by Thousand letters!!

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 15 May 2015 15:52

Terrormonitor.org @Terror_Monitor · 2h 2 hours ago
#Pakistan - 2 Children(2 Brothers - 4 & 9-Year-Old) Killed A Toy Bomb Exploded In #Ghotki District

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 15 May 2015 15:55

Toy bomb?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 15 May 2015 16:22

^^^ More plausible report:
http://www.khybernews.tv/newsDetails.ph ... y=ODI5ODE=

GHOTKI: Thirteen-year-old Fida Hussain and nine-year old Wakeel were killed in a grenade explosion in Ghotki's Faisal Kolachi village on Friday. According to police sources, the two children were playing outside their home with a hand-grenade which they had perceived as a toy when a loud explosion occurred. Hussain died on the spot whereas Wakeel was rushed to Civil Hospital Ghotki where he succumbed to his injuries. Panic spread in the area after the incident and police started an investigation and began gathering evidence. How the children came across the grenade is yet to be determined.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 15 May 2015 16:29

^^^ That picture above is: "A file photo of bomb planted in a toy. PHOTO: MUHAMMAD IQBAL/EXPRESS"
http://tribune.com.pk/story/886839/two- ... explosion/

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 15 May 2015 16:54

A_Gupta wrote:^^^ That picture above is: "A file photo of bomb planted in a toy. PHOTO: MUHAMMAD IQBAL/EXPRESS"
http://tribune.com.pk/story/886839/two- ... explosion/

This makes the target of the bomb very clear. So much for killing one innocent is equivalent to killing all humans.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 15 May 2015 17:19

'Goodbye, my son!' — After spate of attacks, Shias flee Pakistan

QUETTA: After losing one of his two sons to the worst attack against minority Shias in Pakistan's history, Ali was determined for the other to find a new life abroad.

Sectarian violence — in particular by hardliners against Shias, who make up roughly 20 per cent of Pakistan's 200 million people — has claimed thousands of lives in the country over the past decade.

Cheers

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 15 May 2015 17:34

RoyG wrote:
Tuvaluan wrote:Pakis are blaming RAW of killing of minorities -- this is just a ploy by the paki scum to commit genocide of their minorities and blaming India for it.
They've been doing it since their inception. Will blaming us at this stage make any difference?

This is just to do an equal-equal right now if India presses them on the Riyaz Bhatkals and Dawood Ibrahims. "You return our terrorists and we return yours, if they are in our territory as you claim"

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 May 2015 18:05

Fair didi bares it all out once again on unholy nexus between US and TSP

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/ame ... ness-12894

Of course, we have debated this many times, but she still doesn't get it. US policy is not naive, or misguided or any such thing. It is a wilful, well thought out plan to prop up TSP to box India, period. Anybody who doesn't understand this needs to have their heads examined, but as many have pointed out, to the extent Fair didi speaks the truth on TSP, more power to her.

Finally, as an aside, I exchanged some e-mails with Carlotta Gall, NYT reporter from UK, and another westerner who tells it like it is on TSP, as to why the US chose to fight the wrong enemy in AfPak instead of TSP; initially she was a bit wishy washy, and then when I asked her why she is denying the obvious, namely, it is to keep India off balance that US sleeps with TSP, she said she didn't discount that

. But if someone like her says that boldly and loudly, she may have to look for another job, forget working for NYT or any other western mouthpiece, she will have to look for a waitress job in some pub in London.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 15 May 2015 18:11

I support Pakistan in its pursuit of Islamic purity. If it has to travel thru extermination of fake Muslims, that's how Allah wished it. After all Ekam Sat Vipra Bahudha Vadanti, and the Arab-Brahmin Muhammed said that all fake Muslims must be killed.

When Pakistan finishes cleaning fake Muslims there, hopefully India can/should send a daily dose of Munafiqs to Pakistan to be culled. This is an area where Indo-Pakistan peace can prosper.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 15 May 2015 18:35

An administrator of defence.pk is claiming in that forum that the operation to kill OBL was a joint US-Pak one launched from Tarbela in pak.And it made eminent sense for pakis to claim that they had no role in it as the blowback from AQ would have killed thousands of pakis.ISI used a retd brigadier to send the message to US,he claims.