Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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A_Gupta wrote:Are these causally linked events? Oppression of Ismailis in Najran, Houthi rebellion and attack on Najran, attack on Ismailis in Pakistan?
http://m.hrw.org/en/node/75197/section/7
http://www.yementimes.com/en/1875/news/ ... ajran”.htm
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32717321
So, soothie wahabis hate Ismailis, because they are "sorcerers".

Yemeni hoothis hate Ismailis also, because...well, that's what they do.

Ismailis and their living god Aga Khan are also financiers and patrons of the RAPE.

And pakis (which ones? The RAPE or non -RAPE? Does it matter?) are devout bitches of soothies.

Ismailis of Najran want to be the bitches of the soothies but they are not welcome.

Presumably, paki Ismailis are also not welcome to the blessed state of soothie bitchhood, given that some bitches of the soothies, in all likelihood, did the recent karachi massacre.

What does it all add up to? To answer that, maybe we should ask what's missing from the story.

Kafirs, I'm thinking. If not missing entirely, severely lacking in availability. Yazdis are too few. Yindoos are numerous but are too well-defended for courageous momins to try much more than the occasional terrorist attack. And Modi has a fearsome reputation, even if undeserved.

When there isn't a decent number of vulnerable kafirs to feast upon, the momin are designed to turn on each other. There's nothing special about the Ismailis, other than the fact that in the modern era, they have gotten rather out of practice with the getting-high-and-assassinating business, therefore are easy pickings.

(Rant inspired by shiv's observation that the moment any subset of Muslims take any kind of civilizational break from violent predation, they become de facto kafirs and are thus fair game for the Pious, Pure and Peaceful.

A corollary is that, in order to remain pious, it is important to stay superstitious and primitive, because any departure from that state carries the danger of rationality and civilized thinking, which is kufr and shirk).
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Anindya wrote:That is, large portions of their population have significant common thinking with ISIS, Taliban.
Anindya, absolutely. Are we surprised by such a finding? No. When they draw inspiration from the Holy Book that says such things, why should we be surprised? They are doing exactly as they are asked to do. There is a consistent attempt by p-secs not to talk about the fountainhead from where springs forth such evil.
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KLNMurthy wrote: . . .When there isn't a decent number of vulnerable kafirs to feast upon, the momin are designed to turn on each other. .
The Arabian proverb, "Me, against my brothers; me and my brothers against our father; me, my brothers and father against our uncle . . . .; we all against the kuffar"
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KLNMurthy wrote:A corollary is that, in order to remain pious, it is important to stay superstitious and primitive, because any departure from that state carries the danger of rationality and civilized thinking, which is kufr and shirk.
Ijtihad, or creative re-interpretation of The Koran and the Sunnah, was banned for ever in the 10th century.
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csaurabh wrote:
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Islam, like other 'religions' and societies is basically a model for social interaction, and this influences how Muslims think. I read somewhere that Muslims do not have the concept of right and wrong. Instead they understand 'halaal' ( permitted ) and 'haram' ( forbidden ). For example, marrying a 9 yo girl or stoning gays is 'halaal' , whereas keeping a pet dog or eating pork is 'haram' . If at all any Muslim has a concept of right and wrong apart from the framework of halaal and haram, this means that they have been 'led astray' and corrupted by outside influences, and are therefore, not Muslims
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I think that's largely correct. Shariat aims to be quite comprehensive as a text of dos and don'ts, and an ideal Muslim is completely and totally guided by it.

But not every Muslim can meet this ideal. But all Muslims hold this ideal very dear and will fight and kill and die to preserve its sacredness.

Also, Muslims, even the ideal ones who live by the shariat, are not stupid: they know that the rest of the world lives by a universal, transcendent sense of right and wrong. They happily make use of this fact to reinforce the sacredness of their shariat.
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ICC banias have refused to appoint match officials for the Zim visit.
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Comer wrote:ICC banias have refused to appoint match officials for the Zim visit.
Comer Ji :

Two thoughts arise :

1. Of course the BCCI will send Indian "match officials".

2. If ICC Oficials are not "Supervising" the Matches then will these Matches be considered "Official" or "Unofficial?
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Notice, no Harvard Medical School
http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/ ... 117433.php
The honors program building, formerly Alumni Hall, will now bear the name of the Kathwaris' son, Irfan, who was killed in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, in April 1992.

Irfan Kathwari's presence in Afghanistan during that period has led some web commentators to label him a radical Islamist. But Farooq Kathwari said his son, who had been a student at Montreal's McGill University, was upset by Russia's invasion of Afghanistan and was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

"He was there only a half a day before he was killed," Kathwari said. "He had good intentions. He just wanted to go and see what was happening."
NYT, 1998
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/06/nyreg ... adise.html
He said a two-month trip to India and Pakistan by five study group members last year was financed by his Irfan Kathwari Foundation, named for his 20-year-old son who died in an accident in 1992. Mr. Kathwari said it was too painful to talk more about it.
I'm unable to find the full text of "My Nephew the Freedom Fighter" by Rafiq Kathwari.

PS: May 2009
http://www.powerthemagazine.com/convers ... index.html
What did happen with you son? He was at Harvard?
Unfortunately there has been a lot of misinformation. He was at McGill in Canada. He was born here. He was affected – when he was in high school, he was tremendously impacted by the Afghans fighting the Soviet Union.

Watching it on TV?
TV, writing. It was big news at the time, and he was tremendously influenced by that. He was also influenced in Kashmir. Since he was seven years old, we would go back to Kashmir every year. And every year we would go for a different hike, a different mountain in Kashmir. He was also impacted by talking to the people.

He would go there during the summer then come back to his life over here?
Right. He would see over there the fact that things were not good. And by 1990, this thing happened in Kashmir [India dismissed the state government and ruled directly, setting off a period of terrible violence]. Of course, people from the outside [Pakistan] put the fire in there, too. And the Indians reacted very poorly. The government, instead of saying, “It’s a small problem, we’ll handle it,” said “We’re going to nip [the anti-Indian insurgency] in the bud through a very extensive crackdown.” Checkpoints. Curfews. Killings. The result: it went in the opposite direction. Fifteen thousand young Kashmiris crossed the border to the other side to get guns. And the Pakistanis should not have allowed them to go back with their guns. They did, and most of them lost their lives. It was a disaster. He was affected by all these events, but especially Afghanistan. It’s a long story. One of our friends, who is now one of the justices of the criminal court in the Hague, invited him to come to Pakistan for a visit and also to attend a semester at a university in Islamabad. We thought, “Maybe he’ll get over this thing that is always on his mind, what’s happening in Kashmir and Afghanistan.

And then, unknown to us, one weekend he went to Afghanistan. He was there for six or seven hours. He was in the wrong place and he was shelled. He lost his life the same day. He was there six or seven hours.

He’d just gotten to Kabul?
Not Kabul. He went … this was right before the [Communist] government failed. He lost his life on April 7. He was in Jalalabad. He went through the Khyber Pass. Actually, he’s buried near Torkham.

Was he looking to join the mujahidin or one of the commanders? Was he thinking to train for something else, for Kashmir, maybe?
It was possible. He was young. He was 19. He was influenced by some people. We only heard about it afterwards.
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Rafiq Kathwari, 2011
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/03/11/ ... g-s-party/
Years before he flew to Afghanistan, my nephew attended a suburban Catholic High School where he wrote his first major term paper titled, History’s Most Persecuted Minority is Insensitive to the Aspirations of the Worlds Most Dispossessed Tribe. I remember the long title verbatim because I was struck by the eloquence of it, by his idea of injustice, his identification with the Palestinian cause, his radicalization, if you must, Mr. Chairman.
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You call it the Eisenhower doctrine. We call it imperial pillage. Why should it surprise you when it engenders feelings of helplessness and indifference in some, and blind rage in young educated, discontent middle class or higher Muslim youth — whom you choose to dub "home-grown terrorists"— who get involved in movements opposing the status quo or fighting back against U.S. hegemony? Or, like my nephew, who found himself in the wrong terrain, at the wrong time under a wrong sky for, unbeknownst to him, a bored, young armchair pilot 11,000 miles away in Nevada rained down misery on Tora Bora, in the name of liberty.
So now per this story Irfan Kathwari was killed by a drone, in 1992, in Tora Bora???
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The Zimbabwe cricketers:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-zi ... 77067.html
Several players were hesitant to make the trip, with a few even considering pulling out, but concerns over the impact that would have on the future of their careers forced them to change their minds. All 16 squad members, which includes six returnees and one new cap, have agreed to travel to Pakistan for the two T20 and three ODI series which begins on May 22.
Zimbabwe have been promised VIP security which includes armed guards, an armed vehicle escort and helicopter monitoring of their travel in Lahore, the only city they will visit. An advance delegation of ZC officials visited Pakistan in the first week of May for a thorough explanation of the measures that had been put in place to protect the players and were satisfied with what they were shown.

Despite that, the international player body FICA said their security report revealed that the risks of touring Pakistan were "unmanageable."
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ICC not to send match officials to Pakistan for Zimbabwe series - DAWN
The International Cricket Council (ICC) today informed the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) and Zimbabwe Cricket that it is not appointing its match officials for the upcoming series between the two countries in Pakistan, according to a statement posted on the ICC website.

According to DawnNews, the PCB has announced a panel of local match officials including Azhar Khan, Russell Tiffin, Aleem Dar, Ahsan Raza, Shozab Raza, Ahmad Shahab and Khalid Mahmood.

The ICC decision was made after receiving a report from its security consultant. Due to security fears, foreign countries and match officials are reluctant to visit Pakistan.
All the matches will be played at Lahore.
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German spy agency helped U.S. track down bin Laden: report - PTI, Business Line
Germany’s foreign intelligence agency helped the CIA track down Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, before the al Qaeda leader was killed by U.S. special forces in May 2011, according to a media report today.

Germany’s BND spy agency informed the CIA that bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan with the knowledge of Pakistani security authorities, German international broadcaster Deutsche Welle said citing a Bild am Sonntag report.

The report said that German spy agency received the information from an informant within Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency.

This knowledge is said to have confirmed CIA suspicions.

The BND provided help before the operation that killed bin Laden, using its base in the Bavarian town of Bad Aibling to monitor telephone and email traffic in northern Pakistan, it said.

Pakistan has denied that it had any knowledge about bin Laden hiding within its territory. It has also denied that it received any information about the U.S. special forces’ operation that killed bin Laden in May 2011 in the garrison city of Abbottabad, the West Point of Pakistan.

The German newspaper said that ultimately the U.S. tracked down bin Laden by shadowing one of his couriers. The U.S. has also maintained that position.

The report comes as the BND battles heavy criticism in a spy scandal that it helped America’s National Security Agency (NSA) spy on European targets, including Europe’s Airbus Group, the French presidency and the European Commission.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been attacked by opposition over the claims. The opposition says the government did nothing to stop BND’s alleged actions.
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Some Pakistani numbers:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1182403/econom ... challenges
Though a declining trend in the number of terrorist attacks in Pakistan continued in April 2015 for the fourth month in a row, major actors of violence are still active. During the month, 50 terrorist attacks took place in the country, 10 less than in the previous month which claimed 70 lives and inflicted injuries on another 89 people. Although Balochistan appeared the more volatile region in recent months, the situation has gradually improved there; compared to 37 in February and 24 in March, 14 terrorist attacks took place there in April this year.
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They are going on summer vacation. Will be back in October November.
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Germany’s foreign intelligence agency helped the CIA track down Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, before the al Qaeda leader was killed by U.S. special forces in May 2011, according to a media report today.
Is there any agency which didnt track down OBL and thus played the key role in making him meet his 72?

Waiting for Rwandan and Zimbabwean intel to also stake their claim
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SSridhar wrote:ICC not to send match officials to Pakistan for Zimbabwe series - DAWN
The International Cricket Council (ICC) today informed the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) and Zimbabwe Cricket that it is not appointing its match officials for the upcoming series between the two countries in Pakistan, according to a statement posted on the ICC website.

According to DawnNews, the PCB has announced a panel of local match officials including Azhar Khan, Russell Tiffin, Aleem Dar, Ahsan Raza, Shozab Raza, Ahmad Shahab and Khalid Mahmood.

The ICC decision was made after receiving a report from its security consultant. Due to security fears, foreign countries and match officials are reluctant to visit Pakistan.
All the matches will be played at Lahore.
I think Zimbabwe players wanted to be as close to India as possible so they can run away to India as soon as attack starts. :lol: :lol:
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sum wrote:
Germany’s foreign intelligence agency helped the CIA track down Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, before the al Qaeda leader was killed by U.S. special forces in May 2011, according to a media report today.
Is there any agency which didnt track down OBL and thus played the key role in making him meet his 72?

Waiting for Rwandan and Zimbabwean intel to also stake their claim
Isn't Germany one of fourfathers being European. Seems Pakis are milking even this farce even as it was Pakis who hid Osama while Afghanistan was bombed to stone age.

Rwanda and Zimbabwe are neither fourfathers nor rich, no chance that Pakis will accuse and then demand $$.
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X Posted from the “Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism” and the “ISI- History And Discussions” thread.

German government controlled media outfit Deutsche well (DW), on the basis of article appearing in German language newspaper "Bild am Sonntag", reports that :

1.German spy agency Bundesnachrichtendienst aks BND had penetrated the Punjabi dominated Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Islamic Terrorism fomenting spy Agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate aka ISID aka ISI.

2.” BND told the CIA that bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan with the knowledge of Pakistani security authorities” :

German spy agency gave US information on Osama bin Laden whereabouts
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Harami Gul did the right thing to send his two fat and not so bright sons to Jalaluddin Haqqani for some PT/Parade.
Otherwise those two boys would only have wasted their time waging love jihad on the hookers of Pindi and Lawhore.

Jalaluddin Haqqani prolly kept them in a tent, had servants do everything for them, and they must have wiled away their time killing rabbits.

Then they were sent back home after being 'victorious' in Jihad.

Just like Zaid Hamid, who was a photographer and was a hanger on with the northern alliance for a while. Never actually fought or fired a weapon. When he got back he claimed that he was fighting Jihad in Afghanistan.

Half-is-suar saeed's kiddo is not a terrorist. He I think studies medicine in some donation college overseas. But half-is suar can get away with it, because he earns his sawab daily by dissing YYY, and is a Hafiz-e-kuran. Jernail Gul isn't so lucky, he was in bed with the massa-devil, was siphoning off CIA's monies, and so had to send his kids up north for some fake Jihad.

Please note that NONE of the bigwigs in Pakistan EVER SEND THEIR KIDS TO J&K TO WAGE JIHAD. The Indian Armed Forces only return Jihadis in coffins it seems. The Jihadi's life span once the enter the valley is about 6 months or so...
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Remember Pakistan's "Biggest IT company"? The fella who started it is also bankrolling Bol network and has murky relations with Dawood?

So apparently this is what the "Biggest IT company" does.
That company, Axact, operates from the port city of Karachi, where it employs over 2,000 people and calls itself Pakistan’s largest software exporter, with Silicon Valley-style employee perks like a swimming pool and yacht.

Axact does sell some software applications. But according to former insiders, company records and a detailed analysis of its websites, Axact’s main business has been to take the centuries-old scam of selling fake academic degrees and turn it into an Internet-era scheme on a global scale.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/18/world ... rkley.html

Fake Diplomas, Real Cash: Pakistani Company Axact Reaps Millions
Seen from the Internet, it is a vast education empire: hundreds of universities and high schools, with elegant names and smiling professors at sun-dappled American campuses.

Their websites, glossy and assured, offer online degrees in dozens of disciplines, like nursing and civil engineering. There are glowing endorsements on the CNN iReport website, enthusiastic video testimonials, and State Department authentication certificates bearing the signature of Secretary of State John Kerry.

“We host one of the most renowned faculty in the world,” boasts a woman introduced in one promotional video as the head of a law school. “Come be a part of Newford University to soar the sky of excellence.”

Yet on closer examination, this picture shimmers like a mirage. The news reports are fabricated. The professors are paid actors. The university campuses exist only as stock photos on computer servers. The degrees have no true accreditation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/world ... sites.html
Critical support for the scheme comes from a host of dedicated Internet search portals, and a smaller list of dummy accreditation bodies meant to put potential customers at ease by giving Axact’s fake schools a more credible appearance.

Below is a partial list of sites analyzed by The New York Times and determined most likely to be linked to Axact’s operation in Karachi, Pakistan. Some of the details came from interviews with former employees of Axact, who identified roughly 50 sites, along with servers used by the company and blocks of custom website coding it developed.
Axact exported IT services worth $1 beellion trillion and is nipping at the heals of Indian IT!!!!!! Used to be the usual headlines. Interesting to see what they are upto :rotfl:
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^^^ Anujan, Musharraf had put in place a requirement for Pakistani Members of National Assembly to have, at the minimum, a BA degree; and back then the Supreme Court of Pakistan upheld the requirement.

1. Does that requirement still hold?
2. Can we find out just how many Pakistani MNAs hold degrees from Axact's fraudulent schools? :)
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It is the biggest IT company ofcourse:
“Hands down, this is probably the largest operation we’ve ever seen,” said Allen Ezell, a retired F.B.I. agent and author of a book on diploma mills who has been investigating Axact. “It’s a breathtaking scam.”
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Hmm,
One should also investigate the Hafiz-e-quran degrees some maulanars have. I am sure there will be fradulent pigs a plenty there too...
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Bakis are pioneers in computer fields

phrom the first computer virus to the biggest online fraudversity. :) :)

i bow to theee baki mofos.
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comments are interesting. one is well tuned into paki way of life
I had several Pakistani friends in college from well connected families. Cheating in college was a way of life for them. Cheating outside was ok too. They used stolen credit cards to buy stuff, used stolen phone cards to call Pakistan, had s wife here and one back in Pakistan. The funny thing is, some took fake degree certificates from here so they could get an arranged marriage in Pakistan. I guess father of the bride did not trust future son-in-law.
and of course the obligatory paki response...bugger posts his email too, probably a friends to get him some hate mail...lol
Hi every body and Asslam o Alaikum !
I read this story here in Islamabad, Pakistan early in the morning and it was a bomb shell.This was a second big story this mont after Hersh's long essay on OBL published in London Review of books.Let me tell you from a Pakistani perspective about the importance of this.
1.The issue of fake degrees is taken very very serious in Pakistan and here few elected members of assembly have been ripped off from their seats.So rest assure Pakistani govt will take this very seriously.
2.Secondly the Axact group was about to launch a media group with the name of BOL TV.It was claimed to be the biggest media group ever in Pakistan. Now I doubt the prospects of the group.
Big applause for the Declan Walsh .
Rest assure Pakistani Law would deal with the culprits with an iron hand.
Regards
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^^^
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A_Gupta wrote:^^^ Anujan, Musharraf had put in place a requirement for Pakistani Members of National Assembly to have, at the minimum, a BA degree; and back then the Supreme Court of Pakistan upheld the requirement.

1. Does that requirement still hold?
That still holds, but what doesn't hold is the need to answer religious questions to prove one's piety, such as reciting the Kalima, La Ilaaha i'l . . .etc. Of course, madrassah degrees are also accepted (not necessarily BA degree from a mainstream university). Almost all NWFP members of the MQM produced one such degree when Musharraf conducted the elections.
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Pak army 'caught India by throat' during Kargil war: Musharraf - PTI, ToI
Recalling the Kargil conflict, Pakistan's former military dictator General Pervez Musharraf on Sunday said the Pakistani army "caught India by throat" and that India will never forget the war.

"There was a second line force, too, which caught India by throat and that was later given the status of army," Musharraf said, addressing a ceremony of his All Pakistan Muslim League (APML).

Musharraf, who masterminded the 1999 Kargil conflict and ruled over Pakistan for nine years, said India will always "remember the battle of Kargil", the Geo News reported.

"We entered Kargil from four points of which India was not aware," the former Pakistan president said,
Tactical brilliance flowing all over again.
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Start @ 9:50


I had actually watched Mushrat (Video) yesterday say that "Kargil was such an event where we had the world by its throat" and had a hearty laugh.

Now when I saw the reports pour in this morning with the misleading headline I asked myself why was the "World by the throat" changed to "India by the thorat". Might be trivial to most folks but I found it very interesting in terms of mis-reporting and that too by an Indian agency.
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They caught India by the throat and got the Sh1t kicked out of them. He left out the latter part. Catching anyone's throat is the easy part. Anyone can do that. The hard part is to avoid getting kicked in the musharraf in return. Misunfortunately, they fell short in that part.
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This is a new trend, you dont need to buy a fake degree. Just make up fake profiles. Eg -- http://muet.academia.edu/RajeshKumar13

I know this is fake. Half the papers are from India.

This sort of thing has the potential to be dangerous. Anyone know how to reduce this tactical brilliance, and check if you have been affected. too.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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India backing terror in Pakistan: Kh Asif, Defence Minister - DT
Federal Minister for Defence, Water and Power Khawaja Muhammad Asif said on Sunday that India was supporting terrorism in Pakistan, however, Pakistan wanted durable peace with its neighbours, including India.
There is a method to the madness.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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I wonder if the 'we are calling from IRS /USCIS. U in trouble. Wire us money' scam that one hears so much these days is also run by these fellows. In the office DL, 2 dozen people reported such calls.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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I guess root cause behind Pakistan's sudden scream on "india sponsored terror" is to make pak relevant in Indian mind. If we look back, as far as Indian govt is concerned there is almost ZERO reference to Pak and its activities. A ROUTINE and very EXPECTED(read day-to-day common) hi/hello on phone will not make any feel good factor... also remember the "SAARC yatra" to their utter disbelieve was a true SARRC yatra. So apparently it come to a single point that if one(India) do nothing then you(Pak) cant talk anything except whining about inaction. Which is not so dramatic or tfta or juicy gossip element to hog even the LED light. So pak mind conspiracy mill put to good use. It serve them many purpose in one shot. Also, monkey-asha is out of fashion in India.

1. If they keep harping on RAW backing, they can pound any one they wish, a very powerful selective tool.
2. They can keep draw attention from at least Indian news channel. which in tern have some space in indian mind.

As Shiv says, Pak fears the most is its irrelevance in wrt India/Indian mind. And I too wish the day when this thread go at the bottom of pool.

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On a funny side its true their greatest enemy is NaMo. any comment good or bad or trivial on NoMo will hog all prime time space in Indian domestic politics that there is not much time left for Pak anymore. And if any time left we have AAP and RaGa.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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While TSP has the likes of MushRat, India has the likes of MSA, don't know whether to puke or p!ss on him or both

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/18-trips-ab ... dget_cat_6

But pretending that $22 billion of deals for India is comparable to the $46 billion that terrorism-exporting Pakistan has got from China is to kid ourselves. China remains Pakistan's best friend. That need be no cause for concern if we bring normalcy to our relationship with Pakistan. It is Indian hostility to Pakistan that gives China the opportunity to needle us there. A sensible policy would be to prioritize the normalization of our relations with Pakistan over every other foreign policy imperative. But Modi has needlessly blocked that route. And, therefore, President Xi's visit to Pakistan on the eve of Modi's visit to China must be chalked up against Modi.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Tactical brilliance flowing all over again.[/quote]

This idiot just does not seem to learn!
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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well to he honest to the man he did not say India but the world by its throat...though i didnt know what me meant by that.. maybe he was saying we raised spectre of a N war ?

he caught the world by its throat and world caught paki balls ! and sqieezed them hard.

he has to justify kargil as he has nothing else to tom tom.. he will beat kargil drum as long as he lives since his kargil version has been punctured on all accounts..
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Given the paki single-track mind, this blaming of RAW appears like preparation for the next terrorist attack on India and then the subsequent equal-equal if India applies pressure on them. The more immediate reason maybe to just fool the local populace into buying CTs about RAW in pakistan -- the average paki will believe any CT, and will rally around the paki army should India take an aggressive stance against the pakis after their next terrorist attack on India. Would be surprising if the pakis have some new brilliant tactics not involving conning the locals and justifying terrorist attacks on Indians or the paki minorities.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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#indiawithbalochistan trending.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Green-on-green violence is justified by "you are less pious than me". The jihadis have solid arguments that they are more pious than the members of the Pakistani state apparatus and specifically the army. Remember that Taliban-Pakistani army officer debate? (link on my blog: http://observingliberalpakistan.blogspo ... ficer.html )

The Pakistani state therefore needs to assert their piety over those that the army wants to attack; and this is done by claiming that those are sponsored by India.
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