Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

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India to seek UN sanctions against Hizbul chief Salahuddin - PTI, Economic Times
India is in the process of seeking UN sanctions against banned Hizbul Mujahideen supremo Syed Salahuddin for a freeze on his assets and a travel ban for his association with Al-Qaeda terror group and its affiliates like Lashker-e-Taiba.

After filing a chargesheet against 64-year-old Salahuddin, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) compiled a dossier and routed it to Ministry of External Affairs for submission before the UN to seek sanctions similar to those issued against underworld don Dawood Ibrahim.

An Interpol Red Corner Notice was pending against Salahuddin, whose actual identity is Mohammed Yusuf Shah, and hails from Soibug area of Budgam district in central Kashmir.

The sources said MEA was in the process of taking concurrence of 15 member states in the United Nations Security Council before introducing it before the world body.

Salahuddin, who keeps shuttling between Rawalpindi and his Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir residence and at one time headed the United Jihad Council, may be declared an international terrorist under UN Security Council Resolution 1267 of the Al-Qaeda Sanctions Committee if New Delhi's request is acceded to by the global body.

India's case before the UN is that Salahuddin had headed the United Jehad Council, which is related to the Al-Qaeda, the sources said. He was chargesheeted by the NIA last year for his alleged involvement in sending funds for terror activities through a charitable institution.
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http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/tragedy-d ... -ismailis/

some sidelights on ismailis
On Wednesday, a bus carrying about 60 people was on its way from Safoora Chowk in Karachi to Ayesha Manzil Ismaili centre. Six gunmen, dressed in police uniform and riding motor bicycles stopped the bus. They climbed on the bus and one of them yelled “kill them all”. Hell was let loose on innocent people of Ismaili faith. Forty-five were left dead and 13 injured in the attack. The driver was also shot dead, and an injured and bleeding passenger drove the ill-fated bus to the nearest hospital where the injured were admitted for treatment.
In the history of terrorism and communal/sectarian violence in Pakistan, this is the first time that gunmen have made the Ismailis target of their bullets. The dastardly act stands in diametrical opposition to the peaceful and non-violent community that the Ismailis are. The tragic incident brings to my mind six massacres perpetrated by Kashmir terrorists on innocent Kashmiri Pandits during the early phases of terrorism.
Two Pakistan-based terrorist groups, the Pakistan splinter group called Jundullah, and Islamic State (IS), both said they had carried out the attack. However, a little later, Tehreek-i-Taliban-i-Pakistan, that is fighting Pakistan army in Waziristan also claimed responsibility of the attack. This shows that in liquidating Shia community in Pakistan, the main terrorist groups are in complete unison.
Jundullah (literally meaning the “Legions of Allah”) is a splinter group of Pakistani Taliban specifically assigned the duty of carrying Sunni Jihadi fire and brimstone across the western border of Pakistani province of Baluchistan into Iranian part of Baluchistan in the Iranian border town of Zahedan.
On 14 February 2007, Jundullah terrorists had sneaked into Iranian border town of Zahedan and gunned down 18 Shia Iranian Revolutionary Guards almost in identical manner in which they killed 41 Ismaili Shias. Five days later, Iranian authorities announced the execution of one Nasrollah Shanbezehi. He was hanged in public at the site of the bombing. He was said to have been tried and sentenced by a branch of the Revolutionary Committee.
A day later, on 15 February, Jundullah claimed responsibility for the attack. The Iranian government then arrested five suspects, two of whom were carrying camcorders and grenades when they were arrested, while the police killed the main “agent” of the attack. Among the arrestees was Said Qanbarzehi, a Balochi, who was hanged in Zahedan prison three months later. He had been sentenced to death at the age of 17 along with six other Balochi men. In all 68 persons were indicted and given capital punishment by the Iranian government. Ever since, Jundullah has not had the guts to embark on another killing spree inside Iranian territory.
Who are the Ismailis? Students of Islamic studies have to know the history of Ismailis because it is one of the most important Shia sects that initiated the great intellectual movement of reason and rationality in Islamic society in the 10-11th century A.D.
Ismaili Shias, in common with other Shia Muslims, revere Ali, son-in-law of the Prophet Muhammad, but they also revere the Imam Ismail who died in 765 AD. They consider the house of Aga Khan descending from Imam Ismaili after whom they are called Ismailis. They interpret the Koran symbolically and allegorically.
They live in more than 25 different countries
Spiritual leader Prince Karim Aga Khan is a philanthropist and business magnate. He gives his name to bodies including a university, a foundation, and the Aga Khan Program for Islamic Architecture at Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He has encouraged Ismailis settled in the industrialized world to contribute to those communities
Ismailis consider the Aga Khan their hereditary spiritual guide. They mostly inhabit the Himalayan region of northern Pakistan, but also have a significant presence in Karachi where they run businesses and charities, and tend to use community-built accommodation and transport.
A decade ago, I had the opportunity of visiting Badakhshan Mountain ranges in Southern Tajikistan in connection with a seminar organized by the Aga Khan Foundation in the southern town of Khorog with a sizeable population of Ismailis holding steadfast to their traditional culture. It was during this seminar that I had the opportunity of meeting and talking to Prince Aga Khan for a while.
Contribution of Ismailis to rational sciences in Islamic civilization has not been surpassed so far despite the fact that this contribution began as early as the 10th-11th century A.D. Central Asian and Iranian thinkers of those times had drunk deep from the fountain of Greek philosophers, Plato, Aristotle, Galen, Hippocrates, Plotinus and others whose renowned works in Greek were translated by the polyglots of the day into Arabic. These Arabic texts of Greek masters generated the urge for logic and reason among the Muslim scholars of Central Asia and Iran. Thus began the age of reason in Islamic history, and a host of Ismaili scholars led by great philosophers like Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd, Al-Farabi, al-Kindi, Abul Haitham and others laid great stress after Greek philosophers, on logic as the key to all knowledge. They went to the extent of saying that delicate and sensitive theosophical matters like prophet-hood, scriptures, mythological lore, miracles etc. all could be debated through the instrument of logic.
Obviously, when Ismailis dragged logic to that extent, the orthodoxy retaliated and it was with the emergence of Al-Ghazali in 12th century A.D that opposition to logic and the process of reason began and blind faith attained dominance with the Muslims. Supported by the muscle of feudal structure of Muslim society of Iran, Khurasan and Central Asia of those days, the era of reason receded but the struggle for supremacy of reason was carried surreptitiously by the Ismailis for a long time.

In fact the turmoil and conflict that we find within the Islamic fold today is the spill-over of the conflict that began in 12th century. Modern times being the age of advanced science and technology, have exacerbated the conflict and the orthodoxy feels that it can survive through the unleashing of violence only.
This is why the Jundullah and TTP bear a grudge against the Ismailis. They targeted a large number of Ismailis in Karachi. But given the international influence and reach of Prince Aga Khan and the great humanitarian works that his Foundation is doing in many parts of the world including Karachi, the massacre is bound to cause ripples in Pakistan politics. This is the reason why the Prime Minister of Pakistan and the Army chief both lost no time in flying into Karachi to take stock of things.
Interesting to note is that it was the Aga Khan Foundation unit in the University of Karachi that had deputed a team of surveyors to examine the possibility of establishing overland connection between Pakistan and Tajikistan. Even behind the contemplated project of supply of Rogan electricity in Tajikistan to Pakistan is the hand of Aga Khan.
It is a travesty that a people and their organizations committed to rendering support for the development of Pakistan and other societies are made the target of bullets by the terrorists.
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Once again Christine Fair was dead right in her book. Pakistanis especially the army and "establishment" feel that their existence and relevance is linked to standing up to India. the statement by Musharraf about "catching India by the throat" is a boast that no matter what level of crapdom Pakistan might be in - it stood up to India. "Wow. We must be strong and brave."

This is a slow and gradual downhill over the last 60 years - starting from "Shitistani crescent moon flag on red Fort"
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pankajs wrote:Start @ 9:50


I had actually watched Mushrat (Video) yesterday say that "Kargil was such an event where we had the world by its throat" and had a hearty laugh.

Now when I saw the reports pour in this morning with the misleading headline I asked myself why was the "World by the throat" changed to "India by the thorat". Might be trivial to most folks but I found it very interesting in terms of mis-reporting and that too by an Indian agency.
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At 27:15 onwards he does mention NLI catching Hindustan by the throat.

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^^^ Just like, in the churning of the ocean of milk, the Halahal (Kaal Koot) poison grabbed Shiva by the throat.

Pakistan is truly a poison that India cannot swallow nor can it be left to run free....
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A_Gupta wrote:^^^ Just like, in the churning of the ocean of milk, the Halahal (Kaal Koot) poison grabbed Shiva by the throat.

Pakistan is truly a poison that India cannot swallow nor can it be left to run free....
Pakistan is that "****** consciousness" of India!
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A_Gupta wrote:^^^ Just like, in the churning of the ocean of milk, the Halahal (Kaal Koot) poison grabbed Shiva by the throat.

Pakistan is truly a poison that India cannot swallow nor can it be left to run free....
Good analogy.

The more attention I pay to Pakistan, the more I am becoming convinced that Pakistan represents a distilled coming-together of all the toxic negative traits of humanity.
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So this Axact scam is making big news. Because Bol network (started by the same fella) has been poaching famous anchors and journos for big bucks. Their stated aim is to make a "Patriotic channel" and not air news of negativity. I think the establishment realized the money making potential and propaganda value of news media when GEO was solidly behind nawaz and was a significant reason why immy's protest (and planned soft coup) didn't work. Hence Bol.

The latest hoopla is because news channels annoyed by Bol's poaching is airing their dirty laundry. BTW prominent RAPEs and many Jihadis-in-suits work for Bol now.

This should be a good popcorn time.
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Forbes had an article on Axact earlier today, which they seem to have withdrawn.
http://observingliberalpakistan.blogspo ... axact.html
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Anujanullah,

Any chance of names of Pakis bigwigs and (hopefully) WKKs with Axact degrees coming out?
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A_Gupta wrote:Forbes had an article on Axact earlier today, which they seem to have withdrawn.
http://observingliberalpakistan.blogspo ... axact.html
A_Gupta Ji :

Now the Paki Express Tribune has an Article on Axact :

Fake diplomas, real cash: Pakistani company Axact reaps millions

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Please dont insult eunuchs.
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^^ Only silver lining is that many such projects would have been kicked off in past year which we will see bearing fruit in time to come
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KLNMurthy wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:^^^ Just like, in the churning of the ocean of milk, the Halahal (Kaal Koot) poison grabbed Shiva by the throat.

Pakistan is truly a poison that India cannot swallow nor can it be left to run free....
Good analogy.

The more attention I pay to Pakistan, the more I am becoming convinced that Pakistan represents a distilled coming-together of all the toxic negative traits of humanity.
You mean this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqROBTVgL6A
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Saudis procuring nukes from Pak: US officials - Chidanand Rajghatta, ToI
Saudi Arabia is long suspected to have bankrolled Pakistan's nuclear program under an arrangement that it would have access to atomic bombs if its existence is threatened. Unnamed US officials have now breathed life into this story by affirming that Riyadh may be moving ahead with procuring bombs from Islamabad, purportedly because the Saudi royalty that rules Sunni-majority Arabia is angry with the Obama administration's impending nuclear deal with its Shia rival Iran.

"Hundreds of people at (CIA headquarters) Langley" were working to establish whether Islamabad had already supplied the Gulf nation with nuclear technology or weaponry, a U.S intelligence officials told the Sunday Times for a weekend story, adding that "We know this stuff is available to them off the shelf," and that it "has to be the assumption" that the Saudis have decided to become a nuclear power.

Saudi officials have already indicated that U.S overture to Iran, a mutual long-term rival, is pushing them further down the nuclear weapons path. Former Saudi intelligence chief Prince Turki bin Faisal told a recent conference in South Korea that "whatever the Iranians have, we will have, too," and other remarks by the Saudis and their protectorate states have indicated they are agitated by the Obama overtures towards Iran, a regional and sectarian rival.

"For the Saudis the moment has come," a former US defence official told the paper, adding that "There has been a long-standing agreement in place with the Pakistanis and the House of Saud has now made the strategic decision to move forward."

Pakistan typically denies any such transaction, but given its history of lying about everything from nuclear proliferation to terrorism, it has no credibility in the international community including in the "Muslim ummah." Saudi Arabia practically owns Pakistan, many of whose leading political lights seek refuge with their Saudi patrons when the going gets tough at home.

When they are not ordering around their Pakistani vassals, the Saudis arbitrate political disputes in Islamabad, keeping it solvent and alive with free supply of oil and liquidity. The Pakistani military, whose air force has trained Saudi pilots and operates Saudi jets, is beholden to the House of Saud for resolving political tensions and functions as a rentier army for Saudis and its Gulf allies. The Pakistani military, which manages the country's nuclear arsenal, allows Saudis to access to it but not its own prime ministers, presidents and other civilians leaders.

All this has happened under the benevolent gaze of Washington, which has long been a patron of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, both artificially created Sunni majority states that are fearful of and have a complex about Shia-majority Iran rooted in the Persian civilization. Despite Pakistan's efforts to maintain a semblance of balance given its large Shia population, Saudi radicalization and oil money had made it a Sunni satellite state with large scale killing of Shias and other minorities in recent months.

The nuclear tie-up with Saudis therefore comes as no surprise to anyone. "Given their close relations and close military links, it's long been assumed that if the Saudis wanted, they would call in a commitment, moral or otherwise, for Pakistan to supply them immediately with nuclear warheads,"" former Foreign Secretary Lord David Owen told the Sunday Times, and a senior British military officer was quoted telling the paper that Western military leaders "all assume the Saudis have made the decision to go nuclear."
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^^^ More X Posted from the “Pakistan Nuclear Proliferation” thread.

Reiteration of the old. UK newspaper Sunday Times reports the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has committed to proliferate nuclear weapons to Saudi Arabia:
Saudis ‘to get nuclear weapons’

Toby Harnden, Washington, and Christina Lamb

Published: 17 May 2015

SAUDI ARABIA has taken the “strategic decision” to acquire “off-the-shelf” atomic weapons from Pakistan, risking a new arms race in the Middle East, according to senior American officials.

The move by the Gulf kingdom, which has financed much of Islamabad’s nuclear programme over the past three decades, comes amid growing anger among Sunni Arab states over a deal backed by President Barack Obama, which they fear could allow their arch foe, Shi’ite Iran, to develop a nuclear bomb.

The agreement, which is due to be finalised by the end of next month and involves the permanent members of the UN security council and Germany, is designed to roll back part of Tehran’s nuclear programme in return for an easing of UN sanctions.

There are concerns that Saudi Arabia joining the nuclear club might provoke Turkey and Egypt to follow suit.

“For the Saudis the moment has come,” a former American defence official said last week.

“There has been a longstanding agreement in place with the Pakistanis and the House of Saud has now made the strategic decision to move forward.”

Atomic boom
Turkey and Egypt could follow if the Gulf kingdom gets the bomb (Corbis) While the official did not believe “any actual weaponry has been transferred yet”, it was clear “the Saudis mean what they say and they will do what they say”, following last month’s Iranian outline nuclear deal. His assessment was echoed by a US intelligence official who said “hundreds of people at Langley”,the CIA’s headquarters, were working to establish whether or not Pakistan had already supplied nuclear technology or even weaponry to Saudi Arabia.

“We know this stuff is available to them off the shelf,” the intelligence official said. Asked whether the Saudis had decided to become a nuclear power, the official responded: “That has to be the assumption.”

Prince Turki bin Faisal, the former Saudi intelligence chief and ambassador to London and Washington, declared bluntly last month: “Whatever the Iranians have, we will have, too.”

The revelation of Riyadh’s step came as Obama concluded a summit at Camp David with the oil-rich monarchies of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates at which Iran’s nuclear role was centre stage.

Saudi Arabia has long been suspected of helping to fund Pakistan’s clandestine nuclear programme. Saudi defence ministers have been secretly allowed into highly sensitive nuclear facilities — a privilege not even accorded to Pakistan’s own prime ministers.

In return for the unofficial nuclear arrangement, the Saudis have provided Pakistan with billions of dollars of subsidised oil. Pakistan has sold its Shaheen mobile ballistic missiles to the Saudis; these can carry nuclear warheads, which Pakistan can also supply.

“Nuclear weapons programmes are extremely expensive and there’s no question that a lot of the funding of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme was provided by Saudi Arabia,” said Lord Owen, Britain’s foreign secretary from 1977-9, who has long urged a reduction in nuclear weapons.

“Given their close relations and close military links, it’s long been assumed that if the Saudis wanted, they would call in a commitment, moral or otherwise, for Pakistan to supply them immediately with nuclear warheads,” he added.

The prospect of a nuclear deal with Iran that would leave in place 5,000 centrifuges and a research capability has pushed the Saudis to call in the favour from Pakistan.

“There is a widespread belief in the Middle East that there is an American-Iranian stitch- up against Sunni interests,” said Sir John Jenkins, who was Britain’s ambassador to Saudi Arabia until earlier this year.

“For the last two or three years I started hearing people in Saudi talking of themselves as the regional superpower. The problem is they are 20m compared to 80m Iranians.”

A senior British military official warned that if Saudi Arabia pushed ahead, its neighbours would also want nuclear weapons as a bulwark against a newly assertive Iran.

“We [the western military leadership] all assume the Saudis have made the decision to go nuclear. Some think they already have the whole thing set up, others that it’s just a strategic decision and the Pakistanis will provide as necessary,” the military official said.

“The fear is that other Middle Eastern powers — Turkey and Egypt — may feel compelled to do the same and we will see a new, even more dangerous, arms race.”

Lieutenant-General Khalid Kidwai, adviser on Pakistan’s nuclear programme, insisted during a recent visit to London that Pakistan has never sent nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia or any other country.
From here:

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Voice of America reports that former head of Afghanistan’s Spy Agency, the National Directorate of Security (NDS), Amrullah Saleh is critical of the deal between the NDS and Intelligence agency of the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s notorious terrorist fomenting Intelligence agency the Inter Services Intelligence Directorate aka ISID aka ISI:

“Intelligence cooperation with ISI means doubting Pakistani duplicity in terror, dishonoring ANDSF's (Afghan National Defense Security Forces) sacrifices and falling in the trap of deception,”

Afghan MPs Criticize Kabul Ties With Pakistan's Spy Agency
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http://www.dawn.com/news/1182828
Jamaat-ud-Dawa chief Hafiz Mohammad Saeed appreciated on Monday the government’s move to “finally” expose the Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) for its involvement in various terrorist activities across Pakistan, but also slammed government for remaining silent on the issue for around a decade.

Speaking to members of the Karachi Bar Association at the City Courts, the JuD chief said India and the United States were concerned about China’s growing investment in Pakistan. He criticised the politicians for what he said compromising on national security for the sake of their political interests.
This whole shrill noise about RAW is gaining momentum. It is unusual that Generals and ISPR explicitly mentioned the name of a foreign intelligence agency. Then it was followed by politicians. And now the sundry jihadis. On top of that Both the Army chief and ISI chief have lauded ISI's role in Pakistan's defence and urged them to take "proactive" missions.
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Musharaff says that he caught India by the throat in Kargil. What he does not say is that because of that mistake, he got his butt whipped all the way downhill from Kargil to Pindi!

But the main story is not that. What we are seeing is gradual rehabilitation of the Army to take over the reigns officially. It seems like that because of some of the recent incidents

(i) Election time is approaching in the US and they need to get the boys back home from Afghanistan before that. USG once again believes for that too happen they should have complete control over who controls Pakistan. They find that Paki Army bends to the will of America much better than they unruly and incompetent civilian mobs
(ii) Hence the launch of pay ops with the story by Hersh stating that Pakis had a role to play in finishing Osama.
(iii) Stories originating in Pakistan of the Indian hand in Balochistan and behind terror attacks in Pakistan and getting repeated in the international media and think tank circuit as well as getting play in Indian Media that is compromised.
(iv) Provision of arms by the USG
(v) Chinese coming in and bank rolling Pakistani economic "revival" through the "Corridor"
(vi) Desperation of one of the backers, the Saudis, on Pakistani refusal to supply cannon fodder in their war. Resulting in Pakistanis trying to make up for that by giving nuclear maal (which is controlled by the PA and not by the PM)
(vii) Allowing ISI to start once again terror attacks on Indian Assets and personnel in Afghanistan
(viii) Allowing PA to gain drone technology

All this points out that the sponsors of this entity are doing their best to keep it from imploding by supporting PA and rehabilitating them once again in public eye of Pakis. Like the famous film villain Ajit used to say "Rabert, isey liquid oxygen mien daal do; liquid isey jeeney nahin dega, air oxygen is marne nahin degas!" The sponsors want such a situation for Pakistan.

While Pakistan in such a state means a lesser headache for India, we still do not have any incentive in seeing this entity survive. GoI seems to be using this opportunity to raise the cost of supporting Pakistan survival for its sponsors and reduce the value that this entity provides to them by limiting the space for Pakistan to maneuver in the neighborhood. While it has been successful in this to a great extent, GOI has not been able to achieve the same level of success in some instances like getting the new Afghan regime to keep a safe distance from Pakistani engagement.

As for how this is likely to pan out. As Nawaz nears his term end, one can look out for engineered dissent that will cause a power vacuum that is to be filled in by the PA leadership once again. Yes, I think Pakistan is headed towards another round of martial law. It could be an invited Martial Law this time.

Just the usual ramble, take it for what it is worth!
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BRF ahead of the curve again on Paki-Soothi nuke transfers! We've been saying this for well over a deacde.China's DF-31 BM sale to the Saudis aeons ago was the tip of the iceberg.

I like Lord Owen's statement that "the Saudis own Pakistan"! It is the reality and why the GOI should take a harder line with the Soothis over their "ownership" of Pak and sponsorship of radical Wahabi jihadism against India and the world.
India will have to increase its N-arsenal significantly and reserve a N-strike component against the Saudis,as I've said many a time,"the axis of evil against India is a Sino-Paki-Saudi" one.

Gen.Mush-a-rat,the "Bandicoot" of Pak,is suffering from delusions of grandeur and dementia,probably high on Afghani heroin sold by the ISI. His statement that he had "India by the throat" may indeed be true as far as the initial stages of the Kargil War are concerned.But why did he release his grip? It is because India had grabbed him by the b*lls and squeezed so hard that he was screaming in such agony that his boss Sharif had to run to the US and plead for mercy!

Poor Mushy,no wonder he's singing like a eunuch these days!
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Anujan wrote:Remember Pakistan's "Biggest IT company"? The fella who started it is also bankrolling Bol network and has murky relations with Dawood?

So apparently this is what the "Biggest IT company" does.
That company, Axact, operates from the port city of Karachi, where it employs over 2,000 people and calls itself Pakistan’s largest software exporter, with Silicon Valley-style employee perks like a swimming pool and yacht.

Axact does sell some software applications. But according to former insiders, company records and a detailed analysis of its websites, Axact’s main business has been to take the centuries-old scam of selling fake academic degrees and turn it into an Internet-era scheme on a global scale.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/18/world ... rkley.html

Fake Diplomas, Real Cash: Pakistani Company Axact Reaps Millions
"At Axact’s headquarters, former employees say, telephone sales agents work in shifts around the clock." --- someone calling an "American" university admissions' office would not expect to hear a foreign call center's accents. This is where "superior" English skills came into play, no doubt :)
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South Asia 71 ‏@SouthAsia71 2h2 hours ago

"Impregnable in his self-deception and stupidity" UK Amb Pickard's opinion of Tikka Khan
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Raja RamJi

GoI seems to be using this opportunity to raise the cost of supporting Pakistan survival for its sponsors and reduce the value that this entity provides to them by limiting the space for Pakistan to maneuver in the neighborhood.
Could you kindly elaborate on this? What have been India's actions to date that have raised the costs to TSP and its 3.5?
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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shiv wrote:Once again Christine Fair was dead right in her book. Pakistanis especially the army and "establishment" feel that their existence and relevance is linked to standing up to India. the statement by Musharraf about "catching India by the throat" is a boast that no matter what level of crapdom Pakistan might be in - it stood up to India. "Wow. We must be strong and brave."

This is a slow and gradual downhill over the last 60 years - starting from "Shitistani crescent moon flag on red Fort"
Shiv Ji,
Reading the book. Feel that she has utilized wrong data, for example the data on the population distribution of India and Pak at the time of partition (Page 55, she says it was around 36% Pak and 64% India).
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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rajsunder wrote:
shiv wrote:Once again Christine Fair was dead right in her book. Pakistanis especially the army and "establishment" feel that their existence and relevance is linked to standing up to India. the statement by Musharraf about "catching India by the throat" is a boast that no matter what level of crapdom Pakistan might be in - it stood up to India. "Wow. We must be strong and brave."

This is a slow and gradual downhill over the last 60 years - starting from "Shitistani crescent moon flag on red Fort"
Shiv Ji,
Reading the book. Feel that she has utilized wrong data, for example the data on the population distribution of India and Pak at the time of partition (Page 55, she says it was around 36% Pak and 64% India).
Why is it wrong? What is the correct data then? Did you include Bangladesh population? India at that time had 330 million.
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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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shiv wrote:Once again Christine Fair was dead right in her book. Pakistanis especially the army and "establishment" feel that their existence and relevance is linked to standing up to India. the statement by Musharraf about "catching India by the throat" is a boast that no matter what level of crapdom Pakistan might be in - it stood up to India. "Wow. We must be strong and brave."

This is a slow and gradual downhill over the last 60 years - starting from "Shitistani crescent moon flag on red Fort"
rajsunder wrote:Shiv Ji,
Reading the book. Feel that she has utilized wrong data, for example the data on the population distribution of India and Pak at the time of partition (Page 55, she says it was around 36% Pak and 64% India).
saip wrote:Why is it wrong? What is the correct data then? Did you include Bangladesh population? India at that time had 330 million.
saipJi :

The figures of 36% Pak and 64% India is the Division "Percentage" of the Armed forces and Defence Capacity i.e. Pakistan got 36% and India 64% of the Undivided Indian Armed Forces.

Populationwise I think that the total Population of East + West Pakistan was about 65 to 70 Million.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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saip wrote:........................
Why is it wrong? What is the correct data then? Did you include Bangladesh population? India at that time had 330 million.
from WIKI LINK, also Page 56 (report by UN) http://goo.gl/vsVJm1

"The population of undivided India in 1947 was approx 390 million. After partition, there were 330 million people in India, 30 million in West Pakistan, and 30 million people in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh).

From the book fighting to the end, page 55
"The ratio for division was 64:36 for India and Pakistan, excluding the Gurkhas, who were divided among the British and Indian armies. This was roughly the ratio of Muslims to Hindus in undivided India (Jalal 1990; Rizvi 200b)

She has used pak sources for her research, what this proves once again is that even while doing research the "pure ones" use chineese accounting principles.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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saip wrote:........................
Why is it wrong? What is the correct data then? Did you include Bangladesh population? India at that time had 330 million.
rajsunder wrote:from WIKI LINK, also Page 56 (report by UN) http://goo.gl/vsVJm1

"The population of undivided India in 1947 was approx 390 million. After partition, there were 330 million people in India, 30 million in West Pakistan, and 30 million people in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh).

From the book fighting to the end, page 55
"The ratio for division was 64:36 for India and Pakistan, excluding the Gurkhas, who were divided among the British and Indian armies. This was roughly the ratio of Muslims to Hindus in undivided India (Jalal 1990; Rizvi 200b)

She has used pak sources for her research, what this proves once again is that even while doing research the "pure ones" use chineese accounting principles.
rajsundar Ji :

The Muslim Population content of Undivided India was 23% to 24%
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Philip wrote: ...

Gen.Mush-a-rat,the "Bandicoot" of Pak,is suffering from delusions of grandeur and dementia,probably high on Afghani heroin sold by the ISI. His statement that he had "India by the throat" may indeed be true as far as the initial stages of the Kargil War are concerned.But why did he release his grip? It is because India had grabbed him by the b*lls and squeezed so hard that he was screaming in such agony that his boss Sharif had to run to the US and plead for mercy!

Poor Mushy,no wonder he's singing like a eunuch these days!
The tactical brilliance of paki military is in evidence here. If they wanted to subdue India, their best bet would have been to keep quiet and let RAPE-DIE papi jhapi do its job of easing paki infiltration into India at all levels.

By pointlessly barking and boasting about the Kargil fiasco, they are undermining papi-jhapi and marginalizing India's quislings.

When the terrorist attack comes, along with paki claims that it is a false flag op by RAW, this kind of paki barking will provide Yindoo right an opening to say, "but of course pakistan has the burning desire to do such things; by their own admission, they live for the joy of catching India by the throat."
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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I think now we know why the ismailis were attacked? Warning by the deep state in Pakistan to Aga Khan
Aga Khan meeting PM Modi, (and NSA sitting right there too) This meeting was on April 7, 2015
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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rajsunder wrote:
shiv wrote:Once again Christine Fair was dead right in her book. Pakistanis especially the army and "establishment" feel that their existence and relevance is linked to standing up to India. the statement by Musharraf about "catching India by the throat" is a boast that no matter what level of crapdom Pakistan might be in - it stood up to India. "Wow. We must be strong and brave."

This is a slow and gradual downhill over the last 60 years - starting from "Shitistani crescent moon flag on red Fort"
Shiv Ji,
Reading the book. Feel that she has utilized wrong data, for example the data on the population distribution of India and Pak at the time of partition (Page 55, she says it was around 36% Pak and 64% India).
The particular data that you mention, right or wrong, makes no difference to the fact that she is right in recognizing and pointing out that the appearance/pretence of "standing up to big bad bully India" is part of the psyche of the Pakistani army. They have to appear like they are holding back a huge and powerful kafir India that would invade them and put agni up their asses if the Pakistani army were not there.

The greater the number of movers and shakers in India who understand the true psyche of the Pakistan army (as Fair has done) the more likely India will be to formulate coherent policies about Pakistan.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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So this Bol/Axact scam also involves creating multiple scam websites like 'Barkley university', Columbinana university :rotfl: etc. Reminds me of that oiseule, whatsisname (moin ansari?), who used to have a bunch of newspaper websites like 'timesofnewdelhi", "timesofbombay" etc. He must be the CTO of Axact :mrgreen: . BTW, Wajahat Khan is also part of the Bol team :lol: .
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Guys, I hope I am right on this, but the only thing "good" about MushRat's latest bragging is that Indina govt ignored it as it should because MushRat is nobody now even in TSP, and DDM did not go over board in reacting. As we all know very well, and Fair didi and other goras have pointed out, the thing that hurts TSP's H&D besides getting their arses whipped is India ignoring them.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Shahid Masood has claimed in his daily show that when he getting ready to present an expose on the fraud company he got a threatening call.
He went to Hamid Gul who promised him protection provided he did not release name of the person who made the call on behalf of the company.
Hamid Gul is actually protecting the fraud company :mrgreen: and Shahid Masood has meanwhile said that if anything happens to him then Axact's owner is to be held responsible.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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I understand the Indian archery federation is going an award to Musharraf: bulls hitter.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Seems ismailis occupy the Humza valley, the final stretch of Baki territory before the Bak/Cheeni border.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Rajaram fair summary.

CRS NaMo is reducing TSP space in India. Did not work in Afghanistan as Ghani is marching to different drummers. Besides he has to repay those who stole the elections for him.

Gagan good catch. Explains the violence an the gangs involved: Jundullah and Sipah e Saheba in new form.

Philip, KSA calling for its share of nukes from Pakis is good for India.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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pankajs wrote:Seems ismailis occupy the Humza valley, the final stretch of Baki territory before the Bak/Cheeni border.
That would be Indian territory.
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