Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 31 May 2015 13:16

Thanks. Will do.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 31 May 2015 13:18

nandakumar wrote:
Lisa wrote:nandakumarji,

For you,

EU citizens not eligible for referendum vote, says No 10

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32872211
Lisa
Sorry I missed this post. But it does make sense isn't it? It is a bit like the proposition that you can't be judge in your cause. If UK decides to opt of EU, the decision would affect their future. So they can't be allowed to participate in the referrundum. But Commonwealth citizens are on a different footing. So it is only fair that be allowed to participate in the referrundum.

nandakumar

One more thing. Commonwealth citizens can also join the armed forces and civil service. A relative applied to work in 10 Downing Street and made it through to a third interview. regretfully did not get the job.

nandakumar · Post by **nandakumar** » 31 May 2015 16:42

I am going to pursuade people I know who are permanent residents in UK to register themselves as voters and take part in national politics there. Or at least influence the course of policy making.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 31 May 2015 20:24

Simply "smashing"! A glorious demonstration of UK Bangladeshi Muslim culture on display at Leeds.Great video-clip! Ck it out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... Leeds.html

Mass brawl in Bangladeshi community centre in Leeds
Six people injured and more than a dozen arrested after a violent brawl breaks involving sticks and chairs

By Tom Whitehead, video source Facebook / Zayd ul Islam
31 May 2015

Six people were injured and more than a dozen arrested after a violent brawl broke out at a Muslim community centre involving sticks and chairs.

The fight erupted at the Bangladeshi Community Centre in Leeds in what is believed to have been a row between two factions over who should run the venue.

Amateur video footage showed chaotic scenes with chairs being thrown across the room, men brandishing sticks and at least one man with a cut to his head.

Police and community support officers can also be seen barged out of the way as they tried to break up the violence on Saturday.

The footage was posted online and had been viewed by more than 100,000 people by Sunday.

Arif Hussain, who represents the Harehills area for Leeds City Council, claimed the row broke out during the centre's AGM between two rival factions who both want to take charge.

He told Mirror Online: 'I'm shocked. It's completely unacceptable. There are 802 members and it's up to them to decide who they want to run the centre, just like for an MP or a councillor.

'It all started a long time ago. There's one group saying they have one support from the Bangladeshi community and the other group saying ‘we should be running the centre’.

'It's not great for the community, it's not great for the area, it's not great for the city.”
A spokesman for West Yorkshire Police said: “A small neighbourhood policing presence, consisting of PCs and PCSOs, were at the centre in Roundhay Road in support of a local community event.

“Thirteen people have been arrested in connection with this incident for offences including public order and assault, with six people treated for non-life threatening injuries.
Facebook / Zayd ul Islam

Chief Inspector Nik Adams, of Leeds District Police, said at the time: "A small number of neighbourhood PCs and PCSOs supporting a community event have been faced with a violent incident involving large numbers of people during which they themselves have come under attack.

“They have quickly called in further officers to assist and within minutes brought the incident under control.”

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 01 Jun 2015 02:09

‘UK shy of enough land to lock up all child sex abusers’

May 31, 2015

Britain’s child protection chief says the UK does not have enough land to build prisons and put all of its child sex abusers behind bars.

The Deputy Children’s Commissioner for England, Sue Berelowitz, who is currently chairing a government inquiry into the problem, pointed out that the public would be shocked by the sheer scale of the problem when she reports in November, the Telegraph said.

She blamed the spread of ***** through the Internet and social media for the growing problem of an increasingly sexualized society.

Speaking at the Hay Festival, Mrs Berelowitz said: “We live in a highly sexualized world in which for the most part it is considered quite acceptable to do as they want with females, and too many females think that is something they must comply with because they think it is a part of growing up.”

“Child ***** and the proliferation of indecent images of children, and all the stuff we are seeing on social media which is undoubtedly having an impact on young people growing up and their impressions of sex and sexuality.

“I want us to keep in mind that people who sexually abuse children are somehow another breed. They are here and in our midst.

“If the CPS were to prosecute everyone we would need a rolling prison program. I would say there probably isn’t the land to build enough prisons."

Now Peter Saunders, founder of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood, says such comments might technically be correct “because there are so many offenders that we wouldn’t be able to build enough prisons to house them all.”

“The issue of paedophiles sexually abusing children is a massive, massive problem, a huge problem that permeates every sector of society,” Saunders told Press TV on Sunday.

He also called for mechanisms to address the widespread issue in the UK.

The Berelowitz report comes in the wake of abuse scandals in areas including Rotherham, where it was reported that 1,400 children were abused between 1997 and 2013.

A previous inquiry into sex abuse by gangs revealed that from August 2010 to October 2011, at least 2,409 children were sexually exploited by gangs and groups across England.

Scotland Yard is also being investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) over claims that it covered up child sex abuse because of the involvement of influential MPs and police officers between the 1970 and 2000s.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/05/3 ... use-prison

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Jun 2015 02:56

Today, Fareed Z on CNN rubbed the long nose of British Ambassador to USA asking about the Poodle status of UK. The Ambby was repeatedly reminded of the smallness of UQ in every sense of power. My guess is within a decade, UK will be no more P-Imp (ortant) than Pakiland.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 01 Jun 2015 11:17

I am wondering, with horror of course, how the rampant pedophilia of the Brishits might have manifested before our freedom from the said sh*ts?

In my area of India, the history, writings and even folklores about the saahibs ruling us mysteriously have nothing to indicate anything of this sort happened.

Going by their horrid history, there seems to be a crime of genocidal proportions in the form of pedophilia hidden somewhere in the sordid tale that is the Brishit plunder of India. Wonder where those skeletons are hidden?

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Jun 2015 12:23

The waning of the Anglo-Saxon age. Good riddance!

Notwithstanding the fact that there are many good things about British society,when practised in an egalitarian manner,apart from culture,etc., the rule of law,etiquette,humour,backing the underdog,etc.the rules are often bent when it comes to dealing with other nations.Hypocrisy,chicanery and falsehood are just beneath the skin of the British establishment.Tony B.Liar's falsehoods about Saddam's alleged WMDs was the most heinous war crime since Pol Pot and the killing fields of Cambodia.He and Dubya Bush destroyed Iraq,affecting the lives of millions killed,maimed and uproted from their land,who are now facing the gruesome consequences of the Bush-Blair insanity ,a horsemen of the apocalypse,ISIS.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... s-too.html
America is in retreat. Is it time Britain faced facts too?
American reluctance to underwrite global order poses profound questions for Britain, argues Peter Foster in Washington

By Peter Foster, Washington
30 May 2015

It seems hardly a day passes without another reminder that after six decades serving as the world’s policeman, the United States is now retreating from the world.

When Ramadi falls, the White House shrugs; when Putin invades Ukraine, Washington offers only the bare minimum in money and materiel; when the Assad regime uses gas, it goes unpunished; and when Gaddafi threatens to wipe out an entire city, the US is content to “lead from behind”.

• America’s new foreign policy: 'Anything for a quiet life'

The direction of travel is abundantly clear, but what remains uncertain – and will be a key question in the 2016 US general election – is how much of America’s disengagement is down to Barack Obama, the US president, and how much to deeper structural forces.

Put another way, has Mr Obama just been facing facts – China is rising, Europe is sinking and America's war-weary public is no longer convinced it is worth paying to uphold the old world order – or has his personal leadership, or lack of it, been to blame for American retrenchment?

The answer will ultimately only become clear under the next president, but it is a question all candidates in the race will have to address at a time when polls show the American public is openly questioning the limits of America’s superpower status.

One of the sharpest attempts to open that debate has come from Ian Bremmer, the Eurasia Group president and foreign policy guru who coined the phrase “G-Zero world” to describe the new era of global volatility.

In his new book, “Superpower – three choices for American’s role in the world”, Bremmer maps out three distinct paths for the US and asks America’s politicians and electorate to choose between them.

America, he posits, has the following broad options: stick to the old “Indispensable” role of underwriting global stability; engage in a hard-nosed “moneyball” approach that pursues only narrow economic and security interests; or adopt an “independent” America strategy, by giving up trying to solve the world’s problems, and instead leading by example from home.

In the real world, the choices are not as mutually exclusive as Bremmer paints them, but as an exercise in clarifying thought his book addresses an urgent need – both in the US and the UK – to make clear-headed choices in an uncertain world.

The Obama administration’s biggest sin, argues Bremmer, is one of omission – taking a muddle-though, make-it-up-as-you-go-along approach to foreign policy that has done more to undermine confidence in America than would a clear statement of strategic intent, whatever that might be.

If "indispensable" America is no longer affordable or practical, then better to be clear about the limits of America's appetite for engagement than to send mixed signals: don’t set red lines in Syria and then fail to enforce them; or lead Ukraine to believe America has its back by sending the vice president and CIA director to visit, only to fail to come up with the goods.

US Secretary of State John Kerry and Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk shake hands in Kiev. Photo:EPA

Bremmer is not afraid to admit that this kind of pragmatism leads to some dark places for those who grew up with the idea that America – and by extension its chief ally Britain – would stand up for the values it once believed were essential to global peace and prosperity.

It leads to the “Hong Kong” approach, which we saw last year when thousands of demonstrators filled the streets of the former British territory, and both America and Britain confined themselves to expressing “concern”, while making clear they would do nothing to support those democratic aspirations.

But if this indeed is the direction of travel for America – and who, looking at the mood of the American people these days would bet against it? – then we in Britain must be clear that this poses profound questions for us too.

If America is giving up on its global leadership aspirations, is it time that Britain did too? Are we better off looking after our own narrow self-interests – aspiring to be, say, a Norway or a Netherlands – than tagging along with a friend who is no longer that into us?

Perhaps not, but avoiding the conversation is not the answer either. Already the incoherence of the Cameron years - the bungled Syria vote, the self-marginalisation in Europe, the Nato summit calling for everyone to spend 2 per cent of GDP on defence, followed by an announcement that Britain might not - is costing Britain visibly in Washington.

You know that the meme of British decline is becoming ‘a thing’ when John Oliver, a British-born comedian who made it big stateside, opens his segment on the British election by describing the country of his birth as “America’s dead-beat dad” – and the audience roars with laughter.

And serious foreign affairs commentators like CNN’s Fareed Zakaria are rushing to join in, writing a column in the Washington Post last week headlined simply “Britain resigns as a world power”. Note the lack of a question mark - because none was needed, apparently. (*Posted earlier)

That the narrative of British decline is gaining near unstoppable momentum in Washington plainly augurs ill, and points to the one reality that Britain does share with America – we need to make our choices too.

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 01 Jun 2015 13:18

After all the visa drama created by some abrahamic religion's malayalee followers, Sasikala teacher finally arrives in London and gives a speech to a full audience.
http://www.britishmalayali.co.uk/index. ... l&id=45360 (Malayalam)
http://www.ukmalayalee.com/latest-news/ ... d=MzM2MA== (English)

arun · Post by **arun** » 03 Jun 2015 06:48

Indrani Bagchi reports that the UK is actively involved in fostering intelligence sharing arrangement between Afghanistan and Pakistan which is not in keeping India’s interest.

India must bluntly inform the UK that playing the “Great Game” in Afghanistan is no longer a British option:

India suspects British backing of Pak-Afghan intel cooperation

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 08 Jun 2015 00:01

Structural racism and how to spot it - such clarity of thought .
BRF-ish.

Didnt know India committed 2.5 milllion to the war.
Didnt know Aborigines were classified under "Flora and Fauna"

Fantastic from Rapper Akala who was invited to comedian Frankie Boyle's show.

DevD · Post by **DevD** » 08 Jun 2015 01:26

Anyone listening to this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05rptbv?
Sunil Khilnani, Professor of Politics and Director of the King's College London India Institute presents it, and the objective is to document Indian history through short 20 minute biopics of fifty extraordinary lives.
Started with Buddha, then Mahavira and Shankaracharya. Currently up to Dara Shikoh.
Interesting listening. Some original information, lots of prejudiced slant reserved specially for Hinduism.
It amazes me how the Brits can plan and execute such projects and find willing sepoys to undertake it time and time again. When will we see an authentic take on our own history of similar production values?- DDs 'Bharat ek Khoj' was good, but in the end it was based on Chachaji's book..

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 08 Jun 2015 02:01

Sunil Khilnani is the same guy who wrote about the "Idea of India" I think -- execrable book that I got on loan from some one else (had the sense to not buy it). Guy has the same world view as Nehru and his acolytes about what India is about -- cliche ridden to the max.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 08 Jun 2015 02:02

They search out turds, prop them up as experts, basically sepoys and then use them to target the native cultures.
All this will end only when India becomes rich and powerful and is able to run a counter narrative as versus the guerilla warfare currently Hindus and other marginalized ethnic groups do on social media.
Which is why using every trick in the book to run down India's GDP story is also important for the BBC

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 08 Jun 2015 02:04

They can do all the psy ops they want -- the people in India who do all the hard work are not even watching what the BBC jokers and their Indian sepoys of Khilnani's ilk have to say.

DevD · Post by **DevD** » 08 Jun 2015 02:50

It's true that the reach of such projects is limited, but they do have an audience in India, an audience whose influence is disproportionate to it's size.
This needs to be opposed actively by a counter narrative, one which is thoroughly researched and presented with production values of an international standard.
We will probably have to wait for a couple of generations until we develop sufficient civilisational confidence to do a similar Psy Op on Britain.

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 09 Jun 2015 19:30

Scottish police investigate Lord Janner over child sex abuse

Tue Jun 9, 2015

Police in Scotland are investigating claims that Lord Greville Janner, rumored to have been a prolific child sex offender, abused a boy there in the 1970s.

The allegation was first made by a Leicester man in 1991 who told the police that Lord Janner abused him on a number of trips across the UK.

Allegations against Lord Janner surfaced in 1991. Alison Saunders, the Director of Public Prosecutions, recently decided not to prosecute Lord Janner with alleged child sex offenses due to his dementia, insisting that the disease is so extreme, he could not “play a part in the trial”.

But Scotland has a separate and independent prosecutor from England. Scottish police have reviewed the files and are investigating whether or not to bring the case forward.

“Police Scotland is conducting an investigation into an historic complaint and as such it would be inappropriate to comment…Police Scotland is absolutely committed to bringing perpetrators of abuse to justice regardless of the passage of time."

The decision not to prosecute Janner sparked anger from many people across Britain, including alleged victims and campaigners. Janner was diagnosed with dementia in 2009 but continued to attend the House of Lords until late 2013. The Public Prosecution has said that there is enough evidence to charge Janner with 22 child sex offenses.

Alleged child abuse victims are tired of what they see as a high level political cover-up. There have been many high profile cases of alleged child abusers in the UK over the past couple of years, including Sir Jimmy Savile and Sir Cyril Smith.

Campaigners are furious that the authorities don’t vigorously investigate the alleged abusers as allegations are made of an institutional cover up to protect the powerful abusers.

Many people who have waited a long time for justice are sitting and waiting to see what the police forces in Scotland decide to do.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/06/0 ... ORD-JANNER

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 13 Jun 2015 23:00

A British woman jailed for taking her clothes off on a mountain in Malaysia has left Borneo ahead of returning to the UK later.

Eleanor Hawkins, 23, from Derbyshire, was among a group of 10 people who stripped before taking photographs at the peak of Mount Kinabalu on 30 May.

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She and her co-accused all admitted a charge of "committing an obscene act in public".

Hawkins, who is from the Derbyshire village of Draycott, said she had been "stupid and disrespectful".

Prosecutors said the four tourists, along with six others, climbed the peak to enjoy the sunrise on 30 May and then challenged each other to take off their clothes and pose for photographs.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-33112680

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 14 Jun 2015 15:25

Scottish schools 'have no black or Asian heads'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-33122160

"Scotland does not have any head or deputy head teachers from a black, Asian or ethnic minority background, according to Scottish government data. There were also only 18 black or Asian principal teachers out of 5,403 secondary principal teachers."

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Jun 2015 18:51

http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2015/0 ... wden-files
Britain pulls spies as Moscow cracks Snowden files

The BBC and the British Sunday Times cited senior government and intelligence officials as saying agents had been pulled, with the newspaper saying the move came after Russia was able to decrypt more than one million files.

“It is the case that Russians and Chinese have information. It has meant agents have had to be moved and that knowledge of how we operate has stopped us getting vital information,” a Downing Street source said, according to the newspaper.

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 14 Jun 2015 20:32

BBC: Dewsbury teenager is 'UK's youngest ever suicide bomber'

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Jun 2015 20:42

eklavya wrote:BBC: Dewsbury teenager is 'UK's youngest ever suicide bomber'

are they going for a record of some sort?? What a stupid headline.

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 14 Jun 2015 20:56

I think the article has been written by someone with a dark sense of humour.

A statement issued by Asmal's family said: "Talha was a loving, kind, caring and affable teenager.
"He never harboured any ill will against anybody nor did he ever exhibit any violent, extreme or radical views of any kind.

I wonder if the BBC will now provide a quote from the families of this b*st*rd's victims.

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 14 Jun 2015 21:33

Backpacker who stripped on Malaysian mountain returns to the UK

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Jun 2015 21:41

eklavya wrote:Backpacker who stripped on Malaysian mountain returns to the UK

a masters degree holder with a penchant for taking off her panties in public?? aila!!!!

This gal has a great future onlee.

Might even marry royalty some day.

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 14 Jun 2015 21:44

^^^
Dim witted losers looking to cross-breed with horses marry royalty.

This one is way too clever for that.

member_19686 · Post by **member_19686** » 15 Jun 2015 20:07

The Rohingya were promised a separate Muslim state when the British reclaimed Burma from Japanese occupation during World War II as a reward for their loyalty. But instead, only those Rohingya that had collaborated with the British were appointed to official posts within the British-controlled colony.

By 1947, the group had formed an army and had approached President Jinnah of newly-formed Pakistan to incorporate northern Arakan into a part of the country that would later form Bangladesh. Experts believe that it was this action that led to eventual problems between the Rohingya and the Burmese government, who saw the group as untrustworthy.

http://www.rfa.org/english/multimedia/r ... 02750.html

They actually raised an armed jihad called the mujahid uprising and slaughtered Buddhists with the arms given by Brit scum.

It's quiet clear that the only solution is for Rohingyas to be given a national area in the UK and fulfill the promise these scum made.

Anyone who tries to palm them off in China, India or some other Asian country needs to be reminded who the real culprit is and who should take responsibility.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 18 Jun 2015 11:44

India UK’s 3rd largest job creator in 2014
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 714406.cms

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 18 Jun 2015 23:59

England's sons commits terrible crimes against children:

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Police Record 85 Child Sex Crimes Every Day

The NSPCC calls the figures "disturbing" and urges the Government to ensure all sexual abuse victims get specialist help.

Reports of sexual offences against children have risen by more than a third - with police recording at least 85 sexual assaults every day.

The figures, for England and Wales, show a total of 31,238 allegations of sexual offences against children in 2013/14.

The data, obtained through Freedom of Information requests by the NSPCC, showed the majority of the victims were aged between 12 and 16.

However, one in four - 8,282 - were younger than 11, and of those, 2,895 were estimated to be aged five or under, including 94 babies.

In 2012-13, 22,654 allegations were recorded by 41 police forces. All 43 forces in England and Wales responded in the latest study.

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http://news.sky.com/story/1503434/polic ... -every-day

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 19 Jun 2015 00:02

Pregnant Woman Attack

A man accused of the "destruction" of his ex-lover's unborn baby has appeared in court, where he has been refused bail.

Kevin Wilson, 21, who is a teaching assistant, is also charged with causing grievous bodily harm to the mother-to-be, Malorie Bantala.

Ms Bantala, 21, is still critically ill in hospital after life-saving surgery on Monday night. She had suffered major blood-loss at the scene.

She was 32 weeks pregnant when she was attacked by two young men wearing motorbike helmets outside her home in Peckham, south east London.

The main charge against Wilson is child destruction, brought under the Infant Life (Preservation) Act 1929.

The indictment reads: "With intent to destroy the life of a child capable of being born alive, by a wilful act, namely kicking and stamping on the stomach of the 32-weeks pregnant mother, caused the child to die before it had an existence independent of its mother."

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http://news.sky.com/story/1504438/pregn ... d-in-court

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 19 Jun 2015 00:05

Avinash R wrote:India UK’s 3rd largest job creator in 2014
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 714406.cms

And the bloody ingrate shits pay us back by being a four-father (and mother) for the Bakis.

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 19 Jun 2015 00:09

by gork: (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-893460-85-1.html)

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Yet More White Supremacism

The child-rapists at the state-run BBC claim: The aim is to make standards comparable to top-performing countries such as Finland, Canada, and the Netherlands.
- GCSEs: Pass mark raised in exams shake-up

Wow! Those three did perform relatively well in the PISA 2012 test scores. But Asian nations took the top six places! The highest of the above three was the Netherlands in tenth place. Again, this is like the stem cell treatment in Beijing which only became "pinoeering" when performed by a swiss or a spanish clinic but was smeared by the state-owned channel 4. So the state-run BBC has DELIBERATELY skipped the top 9 places and chosen education systems based on skin colour! The Yob Gear propaganda programme does the same comparing Poodleville krudmobiles (when they used to make them) to German or Italian cars, but downgrading Japan's top of the range car as equivalent to a mid-range German car, for example. So egregious is this white supremacism that Which Car? (not What Car?) issues a statement on its magazine saying claiming it doesn't spout BS. Yob Gear also spray the track whenever they're testing a Japanese performance car. They could simply fiddle the test, but the fraud would be too obvious. So they sprayed the track when th Lexus LFA was being tested, admitted it was the best performing in the wet, 3 seconds faster than the next fastest in the wet, but then placed it way down the leader board. Obviously, the list is worthless if the conditions of the tests are not comparable.

Even then, the PISA results were suspiciously uniform showing only a gradual decline from top-scorer Shanghai and the two gangster-run, thieving prison-states, Amerika and Poodleville, were suspiciously close to the average; Poodleville exactly average. With Asians clearly outperforming, you'd expect a more distinct divergence if the statistics weren't BS.

Following release of the PISA results, Poodleville rushed out propaganda claiming they were hiring teachers from Shanghai to teach them how not to be congenitally "as dumb as a rock" as one Amerikan teecher put it, whilst one auztralian lekturer claimed it was "culture" but admitted even in Auztralia Asians outperformed.

Yet PISA has already been flushed down the Orwellian memory hole. Now it's only western education systems that need to aspired to. What do Asians have to do to get recognition around here? What was their excuse for Chinese Head Taxes? How can one species monopolise on being such sad little ********.

It's like the Montreal Olympics when Kathryn Reuters flopped down in the speed skating, knocking over the korean and chinese athletes. The old-farts coommentating at the state-run BBC said she would be marked down. But the corrupt Anglos at Montreal marked down China's athlete instead. The skanky old-farts carried on with the commentary expressing no suprise and not even missing a beat.

Similarly, at the Athens Olympics when Poodleville's Paula Radcliffe could go no further, having failed to prepare for the heat. The skanky old farts driving the state-run BBC's camera van swerved in front of the japanese athlete out of the sheer sad little ******** that some of us are well familiar with. But the state-run BBC's commentators claimed it was lack of training. I was on one yooniversity course where I was more highly qualified and experienced than the lekturer. He complemented some in the class for their ability, finally adding me in as a grudging afterthought.

The child-rapists may, of course, claim they're just aiming low. But that would be inherently daft, but that conflicts with: The government says the new measures will place England's education system on a par with the best-performing countries,

As well as the book-burning when they razed China's Summer Palace, they make all manner of suggestion that the West and not Asia created culture, music and art and in spite of China being the World's oldest surviving civilisation.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Jun 2015 01:35

UK ministers have started to defend Saudi Arabia's flogging of Raif Badawi – it's breathtaking
How medieval does a regime have to be before ministers pause to consider the relationship?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 24161.html

"UKISIS-land Rising"

Asked about the flogging and jailing of Badawi, the Foreign Office minister Baroness Anelay said in the Lords last week: “We maintain our view that freedom of religion and belief and freedom of expression are core rights that lead to long-term stability and good governance.”But? Yes, of course there was a but, and one to take the breath away: “My Lords, I think we have to recognise that the actions of the Saudi government in these respects have the support of the vast majority of the Saudi population.”Do they? Last Friday I asked the Foreign Office how the minister could be so sure. No answer has yet been forthcoming. Perhaps the “vast majority” of Saudis are indeed fanatical sadists who rejoice to see liberal bloggers whipped. Or, then again, perhaps they aren’t. No one knows: this is an absolute monarchy, not a marginal in the West Midlands being polled by Lord Ashcroft.

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 19 Jun 2015 02:53

'Burka-clad white man' is arrested after police detonate suspect package in Watford town centre

DevD · Post by **DevD** » 19 Jun 2015 22:37

So once again, driving to work in a relatively good mood, I was listening to BBC radio 4 news (the sucker that I am)
The news presenter says.." Meanwhile in India, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has announced that the World's largest Yoga performance (How does one even measure that!) would be held at the lawns of the President's estate" in a voice dripping with condescension. "Our correspondent XYZ is in India tying himself in knots. Over to him-"
Correspondent comes in, sounds of groaning, huffing and puffing " Good morning Evan, I'm trying out a Yoga asana with one of India's best known Gurus, Sadguru Jaggi Vasudeva... I must admit that I have been having a tough time getting into position, maybe because I'm trying to do it too fast"
Some jokes and frivolous comments from the presenters on the pointlesness of doing these contortions.
Over to Sadguru then with a half sarcastic comment on the use/value of getting masses to do these 'contortions'
Luckily, Sadguru is a rather articulate man, and unlike many other interviewees that the Beeb has ambushed before, gives extremely cogent answers (I am paraphrasing from memory)
"It is not merely an exercise. This human body, human mechanism is of immense capability. If you keep it right, you can percieve everything within yourself because all human experience and perception happens within you. Yoga is about turning your system for a higher level of perception, a larger slice of life"
Correspondent interjects- "But there has been all sorts of controvery when NM supported the international Yoga day..People said this was a part of the Hindooo Nationalist agenda...And Yoga is a part of the Hindu tradition, isn't it?"
SJV: "Calling Yoga Hindu is like saying Gravity is Jewish or Christian. Just because a science evolved in a country, the religious beliefs do not become part of that science" (I do not fully agree with him here though).."Yoga predates all religions. It's antiquity goes back 1500 years BC. Before the Idea of religion came, Yoga was"
Correspondent: "So this is an attempt by India to RECLAIM this great tradition for the world"
SJV: "It is not reclaiming. It is about offering it to the world"

The presenter moved on swiftly to the U.S Church killing after this.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 21 Jun 2015 16:27

Horror of senior detective at discovering that 1 in 35 men is sexually attracted to children

750,000 British men want to have sex with children, Government was told
Former detective Phil Gormley is a top official at the National Crime Agency
He said the findings revealed 'some unhealthy things about human nature'
Disturbing data accepted as accurate by the Home Office and senior police

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3dhFyyfWw

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldren.html

ManishC · Post by **ManishC** » 21 Jun 2015 22:51

DevD wrote:So once again, driving to work in a relatively good mood, I was listening to BBC radio 4 news (the sucker that I am)
The news presenter says.." Meanwhile in India, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has announced that the World's largest Yoga performance (How does one even measure that!) would be held at the lawns of the President's estate" in a voice dripping with condescension. "Our correspondent XYZ is in India tying himself in knots. Over to him-"
Correspondent comes in, sounds of groaning, huffing and puffing " Good morning Evan, I'm trying out a Yoga asana with one of India's best known Gurus, Sadguru Jaggi Vasudeva... I must admit that I have been having a tough time getting into position, maybe because I'm trying to do it too fast"
Some jokes and frivolous comments from the presenters on the pointlesness of doing these contortions.
Over to Sadguru then with a half sarcastic comment on the use/value of getting masses to do these 'contortions'
Luckily, Sadguru is a rather articulate man, and unlike many other interviewees that the Beeb has ambushed before, gives extremely cogent answers (I am paraphrasing from memory)
"It is not merely an exercise. This human body, human mechanism is of immense capability. If you keep it right, you can percieve everything within yourself because all human experience and perception happens within you. Yoga is about turning your system for a higher level of perception, a larger slice of life"
Correspondent interjects- "But there has been all sorts of controvery when NM supported the international Yoga day..People said this was a part of the Hindooo Nationalist agenda...And Yoga is a part of the Hindu tradition, isn't it?"
SJV: "Calling Yoga Hindu is like saying Gravity is Jewish or Christian. Just because a science evolved in a country, the religious beliefs do not become part of that science" (I do not fully agree with him here though).."Yoga predates all religions. It's antiquity goes back 1500 years BC. Before the Idea of religion came, Yoga was"
Correspondent: "So this is an attempt by India to RECLAIM this great tradition for the world"
SJV: "It is not reclaiming. It is about offering it to the world"

The presenter moved on swiftly to the U.S Church killing after this.

NDTV had an exact same exchange with Sri Sri Ravishankar in NY, down to the "but SIR there have been controversy about this in the minorities..." - the NDTV pyt could barely contain her condescending snarky attitude as heathens performed all the funny gyrations.

DevD · Post by **DevD** » 22 Jun 2015 04:06

NDTV had an exact same exchange with Sri Sri Ravishankar in NY, down to the "but SIR there have been controversy about this in the minorities..." - the NDTV pyt could barely contain her condescending snarky attitude as heathens performed all the funny gyrations.

It makes perfect sense, ManishC. The Beeb is NDTV's ultimate inspiration. You might remember this too- when I was a child I was advised by well meaning elders that the best way to perfect my English diction was by mimicking BBC anchors- I think NDTV top brass is filled with people who followed that advice and have taken it to the next level...
I really despair when I see the effects of our toxic, unreformed education system turning otherwise bright young people into Adarsh Liberal zombies...sigh!!

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 24 Jun 2015 02:50

England's Sons!

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Two British teenagers have "apologised unreservedly" for "picking up items without thinking" from the former Auschwitz death camp, their Cambridge school says.

The Perse School says the 17-year-old boys "attempted to keep some items which they had found on the ground".

They were detained at the site on Monday and released with suspended prison sentences on Tuesday.

The school said the pupils had been fined about £170.

A spokesman for the school said they had been given a year's probation, suspended for three years.

Headmaster Ed Elliott said: "There will be a full and thorough investigation into what occurred. I want to hear directly from the boys as to what led them to take these items.

"I want to ensure that all necessary lessons are learnt. The opportunity to be able to visit Holocaust sites carries with it the duty to treat those sites with the utmost respect and sensitivity."

The teenagers were charged with unlawfully possessing items of special cultural importance, which carries a maximum 10-year prison sentence.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33237625

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 24 Jun 2015 02:53

England's Daughter!

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Head teacher Anne Lakey guilty of underage sex with boys

A nationally-acclaimed head teacher has been found guilty of having underage sex with two boys.

Anne Lakey, 55, from Stanley, County Durham, had denied 13 counts of indecent assault on two teenagers in the 1980s.

But a jury at Teesside Crown Court found her guilty of all charges after a two-week trial.

Judge Howard Crowson warned Lakey to expect a jail term when she is sentenced on Wednesday.

He said the type of sentence handed down would be "inevitable" but granted her bail as "an act of mercy".
'Not consent by law'

Lakey committed the offences over a three-year period, with some carried out when she was a history teacher in her late 20s.

The teacher, described by prosecutors as a "sexual predator", targeted a 15-year-old boy and another victim aged 13 or 14.

During her trial, one of the victims told jurors the mother-of-one took his virginity after letting him watch her bathe.

Lakey went on to have a successful career and was praised for turning a failing school into one of the country's most improved.

But in 2012, one of her victims emailed her school, which led to her being suspended and subsequently reported to police.

Det Insp Aelf Sampson, of Northumbria Police, said the boys had been "vulnerable victims of sexual abuse at the hands of a woman who had some power and responsibility for them."

"These boys should have been safe in her company, instead of being damaged by their experience.

"Regardless of whether these boys appear to have been willing participants in the offences, they could not consent by law to what happened."

Lakey had earlier admitted having a sexual relationship with the older victim when he was 18 and she was in her early 30s.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-33237215