Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

[Anujan]

Indian Action in Myanmar rattles Pakistan ; Mr. Bean, A.K.A . Pak Interior Minister Issues Threats to India

ISLAMABAD: Federal Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan said India should not mistake Pakistan for Myanmar, adding“our armed forces are fully capable of responding to any foreign aggression and Indian leaders should stop daydreaming”.

Comment : Threat # 1

Modi's statement soured the atmosphere of Indo-Pak dialogue: Khawaja Asif

Asif said the government would defend the nation and that if India spoke about teaching Pakistan a lesson, then Pakistan was capable of teaching India a lesson as well.

Comment : Threat # 2

India will not succeed in sowing seeds of hatred for Pakistan: Sartaj Aziz

Aziz said it was ironic that Modi chose to present a case for a permanent seat in the UN Security Council in Bangladesh, adding that India would not qualify for the seat because of recent admissions of interference in East Pakistan and for violation of UN resolutions regarding the issue of Jammu and Kashmir.

Comment : Threat # 3

Note Just Issued Threat # 4 by COAS A.K.A. Raheel 'Bad' Sharif' , not included in above !

India should remember that India is not US, and this time Pakistan will have RADARs switched on and everyone will be awake. India cant just waltz in in a helicopter, conduct an op and get out like how US did. India should offer $50 billion in aid before that.

[Anujan]

Impact of ISIS ascendance and Al Qaeda collapsing. Read it all here: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... d-al-qaida

Another former al-Qaida member, Aimen Dean – who defected to become a spy for British intelligence – told the Guardian that one of his sources in Pakistan’s tribal areas said the finances of al-Qaida central in Waziristan were so desperate that it was reduced at one point last year to selling its laptops and cars to buy food and pay rent.

[Tuvaluan]

Krepon has rewritten his blogpost and removed the bit about "how long before resuming dialogue?" and all the comments associated with it. The new one has him making a direct threat to India that A_Gupta quoted above.

1. These Krepon-type NPAs and US analists generally make up random numbers for pakistan's nuke arsenal, usually by adding 10% their previously made up number from a couple of months ago. But the NPA mofo sells his usual snake oil:- again conveniently leaves out the part where the lack of progress is due to Pakistan refusing to bring the 26/11 terrorists to book.

It’s been seven years between crises and seven years since the last crisis. There has been no progress on the diplomatic front, no movement to resolve the Kashmir dispute and no agreement to set it aside. There has been no significant increase in direct cross-border trade, and still no direct trade between Karachi and Mumbai. The last nuclear risk-reduction measure negotiated by India and Pakistan was in 2007.

2. The fear mongering is that "India and Pakistan will both lose economically if there is a war", as if the sh1thole to the west has anything to lose other than more territory.

He may decide, as A.B. Vajpayee, Sonia Gandhi, and Manmohan Singh did, that India’s economic growth is of paramount importance and that it’s not worth fighting another war with Pakistan. In which case, Pakistan would once again lose while India continues on its path of accumulating power. Or he may decide to hit back, in which case both Pakistan and India could lose quite a lot.

This is the addendum to his earlier veiled threat to India mentioned earlier by A_Gupta

. The pathway to crisis and war on the Subcontinent begin with the actions of violent extremist groups based in Pakistan. As long as this pathway remains open, deterrence stability does not improve with nuclear modernization programs. Instead, stability is dependent on Indian restraint after severe provocation.

Perhaps his US govt. should hand over a few more billion $s to Pakistan to decrease stability, so that mofos like him can write more cr@ppy and clueless articles.

3. Of course, being utter lying scum like his NPA-ilk, Krepon glosses over the fact that Pakistan has nukes because of Chinese nuclear proliferation. You would think the tool who calls himself an "arms control wonk" would be interested in nuclear proliferation by a country that has signed the NPT, but no.

China figures prominently in these pages, but our focus is on India and Pakistan, where the potential for conflict is greatest.

[Gagan]

Krepon is a mouthpiece for some people who are worried that the status quo may be upset - permanantly.

This circle is busy being Father number one for Pakistan, against India. They are arming it, giving it money, ignoring - nay encouraging its "good" terrorism against India.

They are afraid that the current trajectory that India takes, means higher economic growth, an even sharper decline of Pakistan as a nation state to a point where India upping the ante will break up pakistan.
I notice that ever since it became clear that congress I was on its way out and that Modi may be PM, Pakistan is in a very anxious state, it and its minders are furtively trying to shore it up, because the decline has accelerated in this high anxiety state.

[SwamyG]

Everyone knows Pakistan does not support terrorists, in fact it is a victim of its own home grown insurgency. India should educate that a few misguided individuals from PoK are spreading terror. Since they are Indians, Indian Army will hunt them down and give them justice.

India should inform Pakistan that it plans to go against Indians holed up in Pakistan onlee.

[arun]

Krepon has rewritten his blogpost and removed the bit about "how long before resuming dialogue?"

Incorrect. Sentence very much remains as the last one of the blog post and reads "How much time needs to pass before resuming the composite dialogue?".

[A_Gupta]

Not sure that Krepon is accepting more comments, one thing I pointed out is

To keep a lid on the actions of violent extremist groups based in Pakistan, so that India’s restraint in the face of severe provocation is never put to the test, I think a hostile quiet is better than peace overtures with Pakistan. The groups and organizations in Pakistan that will lose out if peace with Indian threatens to break out are precisely the ones that manufacture that kind of severe provocation.

Georgetown Univ. Prof. C. Christine Fair makes a strong case that Pakistan is a greedy state, not a security state, and in that case, appeasement is even more contra-indicated.

[Gagan]

At the end of the day everyone inside pakistan knows that they are terrorist sponsoring fools.

They can do zilch against india - they are squirming and want in some way to do some equal equal. The option of doing a terrorist attack risks the danger of being at the receiving end of a H&D crushing thappad.

So the media, politicians etc are running about doing stupid things like, going to the UN about Kashmir resolution - they've thrown out the pakistani position a 100 times in the past; going to massa and four-fathers about indian and saffron terrorism - without an iota of proof - again this doesn't work, because every one they go to tries to subdue their laughter at their flailing efforts.

Poor guys - they are trying to make virture of their poor situation now.

Massa is decreasing its AID.
KSA, they've managed to anger by not sending their troops, bad days for KSA-Pakistan relationship ahead
Cheen is going to rip them naked with it lizzard business tactics
Jihadis are yelling impotently and now killing munafiqs because they can't kill kafirs.
Afghanistan's Ashraf Ghani has changed his tune after the ISI carried out some terror strikes in Kabul...

Poor poor pakistanis

[Tuvaluan]

Incorrect. Sentence very much remains as the last one of the blog post and reads "How much time needs to pass before resuming the composite dialogue?".

yes, was looking at the wrong post. thanks

[Tuvaluan]

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[Gagan]

Paki GAs Production in Full gear. No country have ever been subdued with Terrorism. Dude Ham Is Fool.

This bhonsdi-wala only wants to be emir of Pakistan using his Jihadis. Delusional fool !

Every one in Pakistan wants to become Emir by revolution / coup etc.

Zaid Hamid tried his best, asking army to do a coup and maybe make him sadar-e-mumleqat
Harami Gul wants to do an Islamic revolution
Half-is-suar probably harbours similar ambitions

There must be like 100 dozen different mullahs, loudmouths who want to become Emir.

Not to mention the likes of TTP, ISIS, AlQ and other Jihadi groups

[arun]

Incorrect. Sentence very much remains as the last one of the blog post and reads "How much time needs to pass before resuming the composite dialogue?".

Maybe you are reading a cached copy via akamai or some such web cache provider? Does not seem to be the same article pasted earlier...unless I have gone temporarily cross-eyed, won't be the first time.

This is the entire article after his edit. ........... {Snipped} ...........

Looks like we may be talking about different posts by Krepon. I was talking about his post on Arms Control Wonk:

Prelims On The Sub-Continent

[Tuvaluan]

Yes, Arun. you are right, I keep getting his post from may 4th on the page instead of his latest post.

[shiv]

Yes, Arun. you are right, I keep getting his post from may 4th on the page instead of his latest post.

The man has not okayed a second scathing post I made and has said that he has "spared ACW readers of more vitriol". How kind and considerate of him

[SSridhar]

India, Pakistan raise pitch in war of words - Suhasini Haidar, The Hindu

It was a day of protests against Indian statements by the Pakistan government on Wednesday, both in Islamabad and Delhi. Sources told The Hindu that senior officials of the Pakistan High Commission met with MEA officials to demand an end to what they called “misleading reports against Pakistan.”

The officials complained after photographs of a Pakistani diplomat, Mohammad Idrees, who was refused visa by the Indian government were shown on television channels. Indian officials said the decision was taken over the diplomat’s alleged “intelligence links with LeT and Taliban,” but denied releasing the details.

In Islamabad the Foreign Ministry issued a statement calling the reports on Mr. Idrees’s ISI links “factually incorrect”, but confirmed that India’s “delay in issuance” of visa had made them re-assign the officer to another embassy.

New inflection

The meeting in South Block, which lasted about 45 minutes, marks a new inflection point in tensions between India and Pakistan over the past few weeks with strong statements by both governments against each other.

The diplomatic clearance that was denied is also the latest round in visa rows between both countries after India denied entry to a 6-member Pakistani wrestling team hoping to attend Cadet Asian Wrestling championship in Delhi starting on Thursday.

Earlier, Pakistan had denied two separate applications for yoga instructors to travel to Islamabad for International Yoga Day functions.

According to diplomatic sources, the ICCR had sent a visa application for one instructor in March this year, and sent another name to the Pakistan High Commission after the visa was denied.

On Tuesday, External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj said India had to make other arrangements for holding the celebrations as “Pakistan’s mindset became clear when they rejected visa to our yoga teacher.”

According to sources, diplomats of other countries will attend the June 21 celebrations being held in the High Commission in Islamabad but Pakistani officials are unlikely to be present.

Earlier in May, Pakistan had accused India of not giving visas to a nine-member Ju-Jitsu Federation, which was supposed to participate in the first South Asian & Central Asian Ju-Jitsu Championship in Bengaluru.

Also on Wednesday, Pakistan’s National Security Adviser Sartaj Aziz criticised PM Modi for calling Pakistan a “nuisance” and accusing it of “encouraging terror” during a speech in Bangladesh.

Addressing the Pakistani Senate, Mr. Aziz said “Such statements not only vitiate the atmosphere but put a question mark on India’s sincerity to establish good neighbourly relationship with Pakistan.”

I am happy that visas are being denied to Pakistanis. In fact, all Pakistanis must be denied visas as all of them are terrorists anyway. I am happy that the Modi government is beginning to strangulate Pakistan. Pakistan must be made to feel the pain in every which way, political, economic, cultural, military, diplomacy, sports etc. India stands to lose very little in the bargain while Pakistan's loss will be much more. We do not want to have anything to do with that terrorist state and that must be repeatedly, unambiguously and at every instant without fail be made clear.

[Tuvaluan]

The man has not okayed a second scathing post I made and has said that he has "spared ACW readers of more vitriol". How kind and considerate of him

This guy is another master at twisted word games that defy logic.

One of his responses to Arun's query about how lightly he takes Hafiz Saeed walking around in Pakistan unhindered is "as lightly as a bout of cancer". Ok, so he serious about not giving in to terrorists you say?

But no, then his logic is "it is in pakistan's nature to be a terrorist nation, and they will cause another terrorist attack in India, but India should hold back because otherwise both pakistan and Indian economy will suffer". So India must forget the fact that pakistan is terror central and resume negotiations with them -- because Pakistan attacking India bad for India's economy...giving us a clue as to how deeply Krepon cares for India and Indians.

I will admit that some of this advice may have been legit when the useless MMS was playing manservant to Sonia, as that regime ensured that the armed forces were handicapped from doing their job. In fact, these very same lines from Krepon were stated by MMS and Co. in the form of "A Strong and stable Pakistan is in India's interest". Krepon's bottomline in his blogpost is "an unstable pakistan is not in India's interest".

But under the current regime, the armed forces have their act together, and their operational ability is being given the amount of care it needs, and this GoI has stated clearly to Pakistan what is in store for them if they repeat any of their terrorist shenanigans in India. In the face of this, Krepon's fearmongering seems to be the same of cr@p he has been spewing for years and years, when he used to write a column of Outlook India repeating pretty much the same lines.

[Singha]

TSPing relation with Kabul seems to have nosedived since they could not deliver the good taliban to the table with a peace settlement. bombings have resumed in kabul and ashraf ghani after his flirtation with TSP has got the slap that was coming and woke up to smell the tea.

he is going to find new common ground with india to safeguard his own seat and well being now.

[Anujan]

The central Quid Pro Quo for Ghani to sign the peace deal with Pakistan, was for Pakistan to prevent Taliban from launching their spring offensive. Taliban have launched their spring offensive and have taken over a few towns and the Badakhshan province. They show no sign of stopping.

Ghani had earlier cooperated in curbing TTP. Pakistan has not stuck to its end of the bargain (preventing Taliban from launching a spring offensive). Hence the heartburn. He shouldnt have given away his trump card. Pakis are also clever. They launched action against TTP before spring so that their perfidy is not discovered immediately.

[Pulikeshi]

I will admit that some of this advice may have been legit when the useless MMS was playing manservant to Sonia, as that regime ensured that the armed forces were handicapped from doing their job. In fact, these very same lines from Krepon were stated by MMS and Co. in the form of "A Strong and stable Pakistan is in India's interest". Krepon's bottomline in his blogpost is "an unstable pakistan is not in India's interest".

Humble suggestion onlee -

Chinese entry with U.S. withdrawal is the cause, Paki may get crazy wet dreams, so India rattles them is effect.
Indian interest is not limited to stable of unstable Paki, what needs to be solved is unimpeded access to Central Asia.
If no Paki there are new problems, if Paki there are same old and new problems...
Either stable or unstable Paki can block access, so the answer is right in front of everyones backside.

Barekon can keep barking his non-wonky bloggie, who gives a musharaff?
If unemployed someone should ask him - why he does not argue for U.S. remaining in Af-Pak to maintain peace?
If not US withdrawal, then no Chinese entry and therefore no Paki wet dreams and India peaceful.
Those whose father gets it, gets most of it onlee

[Pulikeshi]

You may have noticed that there is a deeply-driven current of effort in the US media aimed at "repositioning" Pakistan. There have been a rash of public-domain image-building exercises aimed at restoring faith among the US public that Islamabad is in fact not a terrorist capital, but an unjustly estranged ally of America whose motivations in supporting the Taliban against US troops need to be "understood".

This is x-posted from another thread... this goes with what I've said above.
Sure seems like at least some in the U.S. want to work with China to manage the region...
Barekon and his Ayatollah friends need to be repeatedly asked - how lightly does he take China that was and is proliferating?

[habal]

>>all Pakistanis must be denied visas as all of them are terrorists anyway.

there are shias from gilgit-baltistan, sunnis from sindh, baloch, pashtuns in karachi and KP whom we give visas and all manner of help. There are mohajirs in Karachi who still seek our help. It is just the pakjabis who are uniformly terrorist-minded because their histories have been wiped away (many have become 'syed')and they have re-written false histories many times over, thus hypocrisy and deceit runs in their blood.

pakistanis are not half the terrorist force if they do not have anglo-saxon backup. But just like the 300-yr old reign of the mughals the anglo-saxon fireflies are on their last charge before daylight after their short spell of 300 years is over. After BRIC/Russia/China axis, they are trying to reinvent pakistan+Iran axis against BRIC. This is obviously not going to work and is not working, but they are going to give it their best shot.

[arun]

A difficult day for the Pakjabi dominated security forces with two separate attacks on these forces of occupation by Freedom fighting Mujahideen killing 6.

The first attack being by way of a demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan in Peshawar :

Two police officials killed, five injured in Peshawar blast

The second attack a motorcycle-borne drive-by attack in Quetta:

Four policemen killed in Quetta drive-by shooting

Clearly presence of 700,000 Pakjabi security forces apiece in Pakjabi Occupied Balochistan and Pakjabi Occupied Pashtunistan will not douse the yearning of freedom by the oppressed Baloch and Pathan.

[SSridhar]

>>all Pakistanis must be denied visas as all of them are terrorists anyway.

there are shias from gilgit-baltistan, sunnis from sindh, baloch, pashtuns in karachi and KP whom we give visas and all manner of help. There are mohajirs in Karachi who still seek our help. It is just the pakjabis who are uniformly terrorist-minded because their histories have been wiped away (many have become 'syed')and they have re-written false histories many times over, thus hypocrisy and deceit runs in their blood.

Of course, when I said no Pakistani should be given visas, it implied certain exceptions. Clearly, unless the person concerned is of some interest for India, the visa must be denied. There is no need to uniformly except the Shias from GB, or Sindhis, Balochis, Pashtunes etc. The Shias and the Ahmedis led the creation of Pakistan and India cannot forget that, including in GB. Later, these sects suffered enormously but that is their problem. This does not mean they take to us kindly. The Balochistan Home Minister Sarfraz Bugti has been regularly accusing R&AW of involvement there, for example. It is not that the entire Balochistan is trying to secede. The Sindhis, exemplified by the Bhutto family, have some of the biggest Indian haters among themselves. It is in the Sindh that all kinds of atrocities are committed against the Hindus because they are identified with India. Of course, if there are gaddars among these groups which are willing to betray Pakistan, we shall exploit them.

Added later: I am not one of those who subscribes to the 'pakjab-alone-to-be-blamed' theory.

[Virendra]

>>all Pakistanis must be denied visas as all of them are terrorists anyway.

there are shias from gilgit-baltistan, sunnis from sindh, baloch, pashtuns in karachi and KP whom we give visas and all manner of help. There are mohajirs in Karachi who still seek our help. It is just the pakjabis who are uniformly terrorist-minded because their histories have been wiped away (many have become 'syed')and they have re-written false histories many times over, thus hypocrisy and deceit runs in their blood.

pakistanis are not half the terrorist force if they do not have anglo-saxon backup. But just like the 300-yr old reign of the mughals the anglo-saxon fireflies are on their last charge before daylight after their short spell of 300 years is over. After BRIC/Russia/China axis, they are trying to reinvent pakistan+Iran axis against BRIC. This is obviously not going to work and is not working, but they are going to give it their best shot.

We will always have plenty of enemies.
Once the Anglo-Saxons decline the Chinese would try their best to adopt the Pakis on whatever front they are orphaned by Anglo-Saxons.
Today we rue the fact of Anglo-Saxon support; tomorrow we'll rue the Chinese one.

[arun]

PM Modi's 'nuisance' remarks in Bangladesh 'unfortunate', Pakistan says - PTI

Pakistan on Tuesday described as "unfortunate" the remarks made by Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Bangladesh where he had accused it of creating "nuisance" and constantly troubling India by promoting terrorism.

The "characterization of bilateral relations by the Indian prime minister as 'nuisance' is unfortunate," Pakistan foreign office spokesperson Qazi Khalillulah said.

He said that Pakistan believes in peaceful co-existence and maintaining good neighbourly relations with India.

"Pakistan aaye din (constantly) disturbs India, jo naako dum la deta hai (creates nuisance), terrorism ko badhawa (deta hai)...ki ghatnaayein ghatthi rehti hain (promotes terrorism and such incidents keep recurring)," Modi had said on Sunday in his address to Dhaka University during his Bangladesh trip.

Recalling that 90,000 Pakistani prisoners of war were in India's captivity during the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War, Modi had said, "if we had a diabolic mindset, we don't know then what decision we would have taken."

Khalillulah said that Prime Minister Modi's statements "only confirmed Pakistan's stance on India's negative role against a sovereign neighbouring state."

"It was regrettable that the Indian politicians not only indulge in actions that are in violation of the UN's Charter but also take pride in recalling their interference in the internal affairs of other states," he said.

The spokesperson reiterated that the people of Pakistan and Bangladesh are bound not only by the strong bonds of religious affinity but also by the history of their struggle for independence against colonial rule.{Both are utterly false and quite stupid & laughable}

"Indian attempts to sow seeds of discord between the two brotherly nations of Pakistan and Bangladesh will not succeed," he stressed.

Pakistan also called upon the international community to take note of Indian acknowledgement of its interference in East Pakistan - now known as Bangladesh.

Bangladesh Information Minister, Hasanal Haq Inu :

"The Indian PM was candid to say that India supported the 1971 war of liberation. But this is not tantamount to interference in Pakistan, as New Delhi, as a friendly neighbor, stood by Bangladesh whose independence was proclaimed on March 26, 1971. Therefore, it was support from one country to the other against its fight with a third country (Pakistan)"

Bangladesh stands by India; slams Pakistan for statement that India interfered during 1971 crisis

[shiv]

I put this comment on the Krepon link - can anyone else see it. I can, but it says my comment is awaiting moderation

Mr Krepon – you say that Pakistan can wreck India’s future, which is a statement that makes me laugh – having watched Pakistan do its darndest to wreck India’s future from the 1950s. I do not want to get personal but I think I am at least as old as you are if not older and I have watched Pakistan for over 45 years. You are a recent entrant in Pakistanology and have a short term view. Time was when Pakistan complained that its existence was under threat and that it required US aid and diplomatic support, which it got. The same thing happened under your President St.Richard Nixon. So when I think of all the wrong moves the US has been making all these decades – your judgement about the past is laughable. Now suddenly you say India should be making up to Pakistan – that is ludicrous tripe sir. Are you really the expert you claim to be? Doesn’t seem like it.You get 2 out of 10 for this. Not that it matters to you but It matters to me to say it up front.

[Gus]

Creepon basically says India has to be punching bag and grin and bear it when pakis do what pakis do in order for stability blah blah and that US need not rethink their policy in the region and continue with that disaster. What is new in this? Every massa expert with exception of cfair says this.

[sudhan]

Porki senate passes a resolution to condom Indian remarks

That's right! The Pawki senators have spoken!! You thin legged indians better start trembling in your dirty dhoties!!

Not! Pawkis have started browning their Shalwars They know all this resolution passing amounts exactly to a mouse fart..

Happy browning, neighbors!

[CRamS]

Guys, it may have been about a year or so ago, I was on the same flight as Krapon from Bengluru to Frankfurt. Initially, he was smiling when I recognized him(I had seen him at event in DC several years earlier), and after some pleasantries, I engaged him in some US-TSP-India issues. Even there, he sounded a tad reasonable and said India understands TSP leaders well and know how to deal with them. But I questioned US aid to TSP, he ducked, and when I persisted, he changed topic, and of course, he refused to discuss anymore after that.

[CRamS]

TuvaluanJi,

On your observation as well as many others, namely, under MMS, armed forces were constrained, but not anymore, I've been doing the casual DDM rounds, and Praveen Prestitute, Ajai Shukla (who forever has an exe to grid with BJP), Bukara etc are at pains to point out that this is a bogus claim, and they are "worried" (in good league with TSP/US) that BJP will take too much credit when the fact of the matter is that army makes its decisions on when to act and when not to. Meaning that this claim that army was restrained under MMS/Sonia regime is not true. Of course, problem on DDM is that you need good journalists with a nationalistic mindset to probe and challenge this, but pretty soon the so called "debate" descends into BJP Vs Cng bean counting on who did worse.

[Tuvaluan]

CRamSji, I think anthony's tenure as defence minister speaks for itself. AKA made standing still and doing nothing his trademark -- he stood in the way of every single army acquisition and saw all the nastiness about VK singh's retirement age and also destroyed military intelligence going by recent reports. Less said about the scum in the Indian media the better -- their current reportage of the NE special ops is utterly disgusting and against Indian interests.

[Tuvaluan]

Not that the UN matters but interesting that Pakistan got so much support -- aided by Chinese no doubt, and possibly Russia.

http://thewire.in/2015/06/11/two-ngos-l ... ctivities/

members of this committee

Angola
Burundi
China
Colombia
Cuba
Dominica
Egypt
Guinea
India
Israel
Pakistan
Peru
Qatar
Romania
Russian Federation
Sudan
Turkey
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
U.S.A.

Voted 12-5

Two Africa based NGOs, the African Technology Development Link (ATDL) and the African Technical Association (ATA), lost their consultative status within the United Nations after a vote in the UN Committee on NGOs. The decision came soon after the two had made statements criticizing Pakistan’s activities in the Baluchistan and Gilgit-Baltistan Provinces and other areas of the country.

The decision was criticized by activists, notably by the International Society for Human Rights (ISHR) for the hasty nature in which the decision was made.

The NGOs were alleged to have used language not befitting the United Nations and were also accused of having violated UN norms against acting in a politically motivated manner against member states. The vote against the NGOs was requested by Pakistan, a member of the Committee, and the Committee decided by 12-5 in the case of the ATDL and by 13-5 in the case of ATA to withdraw the NGOs’ status.

“We are deeply disturbed by the draft decisions of the Committee concerning the withdrawal of the status of these two NGOs. The process used was hurried and failed to fully respect the procedural safeguards required by ECOSOC Resolution 1996/31,” a release on the ISHR website quoted Michelle Evans as saying.

Hasty decision

“In particular, the process did not allow the NGOs a reasonable opportunity to respond to the allegations against them. The decision to withdraw their status was taken despite requests from some Committee members for more time to reach out to the NGOs and ask for clarifying information,” she said.

The ISHR also stated that the process was in complete opposition to how the committee handles applications, where many NGOs wait for years to be granted or denied consultative status. The Human Rights Watch too has come out with a statement against the withdrawal, saying that the withdrawal represented a dangerous precedent, the Pakistani news agency ‘The News International’ reported.

Both India and the United States had voted against the decision to withdraw the NGOs’ status. “The loss here is for civil society. It will have a chilling effect on civil society as a whole and how they engage with the United Nations,” the US representative was quoted as saying by a UN press release.

[A_Gupta]

^^^

The withdrawal of the status of African Technology Development Link was a result of a vote of 12-5. Greece, India, Israel, United States, Uruguay voted against the withdrawal, while Azerbaijan China, Cuba, Guinea, Iran, Mauritania, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Russia, South Africa, Turkey, Venezuela voted in favour. Burundi and Sudan were absent. - See more at: http://www.ishr.ch/news/withdrawal-un-c ... iety#.dpuf

The decision to withdraw the status of African Technical Association was by a vote of 13 in favour (Azerbaijan, China, Cuba, Guinea, Iran, Mauritania, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Russia, South Africa, Sudan, Turkey, Venezuela) to 5 against (Greece, India, Israel, United States, Uruguay). Burundi was absent. Both votes were requested by Pakistan. - See more at: http://www.ishr.ch/news/withdrawal-un-c ... iety#.dpuf

[Falijee]

U.S. Congress rejects imposing stricter limits on Pakistan aid

The House defeated a proposal late Wednesday night to prevent the Obama administration from waiving certain restrictions on aid to Pakistan deemed to be in the national security interest.

The bill contains a provision that no funds can be provided to Pakistan unless the State and Defense departments certify it is cooperating with the U.S. in counterterrorism efforts; not supporting terrorist activities against the U.S. or coalition forces in Afghanistan; dismantling improvised explosive devices; preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons; issuing visas in a "timely manner" for U.S. visitors; and working with humanitarian organizations to assist Pakistani civilians.
However, the State and Defense departments can waive the restrictions on a case-by-case basis if they establish to Congress that providing aid to Pakistan is nonetheless vital to national security.

Poe maintained that the Pakistani government can't be trusted, offering the circumstances of the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden in 2011 as an example.

"This amendment does one simple thing. It says you meet the conditions or you get no money from the United States," Poe said.

But Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.), the chairman of the House Appropriations subcommittee that authored the defense spending bill, said it would be counterproductive.

"We need the cooperation of the Pakistanis. If we don't have any, we lose insight into the actions of those who would do our country harm," Frelinghuysen said.

Comment : So, it seems that the pro Pakistani lobby in US Congress is still strong

[A_Gupta]

http://mustikhan.newsvine.com/_news/201 ... alochistan

The African Technical Association, in collaboration with Baloch leaders Mehran Baluch and Noordin Mengal, had organized a side event at the Palace of Nations on Geneva on March 20, which was addressed among others by Amnesty International’s international outreach director based in Washington DC.

t is not the first time an NGO lost its consultative status for highlighting Balochistan issues. Six years ago the Interfaith International met a similar faith. Last fall, Baloch leader Hyrbyair Marri and his colleagues were escorted out of the Palace of Nations in Geneva by the security personnel. Baloch Voice Foundation chair Munir Mengal lodged a written complaint with the UN to explain the reasons for the ouster "I have not received any explanation as yet," Mengal said on phone from Paris.

[arun]

X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism” thread.

Maximum prison sentences for 2 Pakistani-born brothers in plot to bomb New York City landmarks

By CURT ANDERSON AP Legal Affairs Writer
First Posted: June 11, 2015 - 11:09 am
Last Updated: June 11, 2015 - 11:11 am

MIAMI — A federal judge imposed the maximum possible prison sentences Thursday on two Pakistani-born brothers who admitted trying to pull off a terrorist bomb attack against New York City landmarks and later assaulted two deputy U.S. marshals while in custody.

U.S. District Judge Beth Bloom compared the plot, which never got past the planning stages, to the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings in which the two attackers used commonplace pressure cookers. In the Florida case, evidence shows the younger brother, 22-year-old Raees Alam Qazi, researched how to make bombs on the Internet using readily available items such as Christmas tree lights and chemicals.

"You are a terrorist. Evil in nature and evil in your deeds," Bloom said to Raees Qazi. "You chose to engage in conduct that can only be described as evil and reprehensible."

The judge sentenced Raees Qazi to 35 years in prison while his brother, 32-year-old Sheheryar Alam Qazi, was sentenced to 20 years behind bars. Both sentences were three years above those recommended by prosecutors and defense attorneys in a March plea deal. ………………………………

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Gola Speaks About Pakistan's Family Jewels

Islamabad: Accusing India of destabilising Pakistan, former military ruler Pervez Musharraf has said nuclear weapons are for the defence of the country and not for "celebratory" occasion.

"Don't attack us, don't challenge our territorial integrity because we are not a small power, we're a major and nuclear power. Don't push us," 71-year-old Musharraf said.

Comment: Usual bravado in action!

India has said it will not hesitate in going beyond its borders to eliminate terrorists, in an apparent warning to Pakistan. Indian Army this week carried out a surgical strike inside Myanmar, killing scores of Naga insurgents.

Musharraf also asked Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to respond to threats in his capacity.

Comment : : Instead he should have asked Raheel Sharif to respond. Indian / foreign media should just sideline him - and not feed is ego by giving him up a platform to show off ; he thrives on publicity; ignore him and he may become irrelevant !

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Pakistan is in war with Afghanistan: Afghan President
Poaquddam

Kabul- President Ashraf Ghani said Pakistan is in undeclared war with Afghanistan for the past 36 years. President Ghani, while talking at a gathering of government officials in Kandahar, said Pakistan has been given notice of the concerns.On Tuesday, Ghani said, “Peace with Pakistan is our first priority but this peace should be based on conditions from Afghanistan.”He highlighted Afghanistan’s land separated by Durand Line. Ghani also believes the enemies of Afghanistan are enjoying safe havens in Pakistan.

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Soon Sind will Be Part of Hind To Take Its Right Place

High-profile Sindh personalities involved in terror funding, claims DOG Rangers

KARACHI: Pakistan Rangers Sindh has recommended a crackdown on terror-funding activities across Karachi, in which the law-enforcing agency claims several influential personalities of Sindh are directly involved.The director general (DG) of Rangers Sindh, Major General Bilal Akbar, had recently briefed the apex committee on terrorism-funding activities in Karachi, highlighting the involvement of several high-profile personalities in land grabbing and collecting extortion.According to a statement issued on Thursday, the Rangers DG told the apex committee that illegally acquired funds were channeled to various criminal outfits and individuals — including those involved in the Lyari gang war.He said such funds were also distributed to several ‘influential’ personalities and officials in Sindh.In his report to the apex committee, the Rangers chief said donations collected in the guise of charitable works, even money from hides of sacrificial animals, were being injected into criminal activities in the province, adding that armed wings of political and religious parties have been feeding on these funds.Maj Gen Bilal Akbar also revealed that money collected from shops and markets via extortion totaled billions of rupees, adding that political parties, city district governments and administrations, police officials, construction companies and real estate agents were involved in china cutting.The land-grabbing mafia, he said, operated systematically under the tutelage of a prominent political party in Karachi.The Rangers chief specially highlighted the role of high-profile and influential personalities in such illegal activities, adding that in addition to battling criminal elements via an explicit operation, there was a need to crack down on terror-funding mechanisms.

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Wallah, when you have minimal stakes, or at least when the stakes suit you just fine, or when you yoursefl have created these stakes, neutrality taught in Journalism 101 in full swing, aka India TSP equal equal

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