Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 01 Jul 2015 05:22

arun wrote:The BBC and Owen Bennet Jones should have known better than to publish a story on the basis of information from an "Authoritative Pakistani Source" .

He was a former BBC correspondent in Islamabad in the 1990s, I believe he may have been there during the 1998 nuclear tests. Maybe that's when he "cultivated" an "Authoritative Pakistani Source" or being "cultivated" by one.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Jul 2015 07:33

Water scarcity: A grave threat
Wohi Purana Rona Dhona : Yaum-e Desert Celebration Preparedness

With a standby of merely 30 days and water per capita availability dropping to 1,000 cubic meters per capita, this poses a threat to the security and survival of the nation. The situation becomes more dire when the inequality in terms of water availability between the rich and the poor becomes apparent, highlighted by the Karachi calamity. We are now at a stage where drastic reforms, at domestic and international levels, are integral to mitigating the damage posed by climate change and water shortages.For many years now, the Indus Waters Treaty has been called into question. Despite being commended for its ability to survive the highs and lows of the tumultuous relationship between Pakistan and India, it must be revisited due to the evolution of circumstances. By dividing the rivers between the two countries, the treaty acted as a water-dividing treaty rather than a water-sharing one, a factor that has continued to hinder cooperation. The Baglihar and Kishanganga disputes serve to highlight the severe lack of coordination and trust between the two states, and the failure of international arbitration to appease both sides. There has also been meagre progress in terms of depoliticising the Indus Water Commission (IWC) and boosting information sharing, despite it being an integral part of the treaty and there being a demand for future cooperation in Article VII. Although realpolitik does not allow such cooperation to exist, the fact that both countries are facing an acute water shortage, which will only continue to be exacerbated by the status quo, warrants that both states look beyond their military strategic interests and cooperate in the form of information sharing, adding neutral experts into the commission, undertaking joint ventures and a renewed treaty, with a focus on sharing the waters. India’s increasingly hegemonic status — though still dwarfed by China — is still insufficient to deal with this crisis on its own; India simply cannot afford to sideline Pakistan from regional initiatives, despite recent events pointing to the contrary.
The term ‘water terrorism’ has been proclaimed by federal ministers and militant non-state actors alike, labelling India as the sole perpetrator of the water crisis. This delusional narrative, especially by the state, simply to propagate anti-India rhetoric, politicises the issue and seeks to absolve the main stakeholders in Pakistan of any responsibility. The Neelum-Jhelum Project that is nearing completion is an example of the ineffective execution of projects in Pakistan in terms of time and financial resources. The capacities of the Mangla and Tarbela continue to diminish, whereas the construction of Kalabagh Dam faces opposition from two provinces. Concurrently, India has raced ahead of Pakistan, constructing numerous small and large dams for electricity generation.
More than simply having domestic benefits, micro-irrigation projects are an area for cooperation between Pakistan and India, being the fourth-largest and largest irrigated land areas respectively, and suffering from archaic irrigation practices. Sharing of best practices and other means of technical cooperation would also result in increasing investments from international institutions and private investors, lured by the notion of stability in the region.John Briscoe, a former World Bank adviser on water, stresses the need for liberal-minded people on both sides to change the nature of the current narrative on water and depoliticise the issue, owing to the significant mutual benefit that can be derived from cooperation. It needs to be seen as a positive sum game, rather than used as a political tool. Though he argues for this on an international level, Pakistan’s current provincial issues warrant this approach to be applied at a national level. There are significant ruptures within our own water management system that need to addressed, which not only require political will but also unity between the provinces and an equitable sharing of resources between them. Without remedying the internal rifts, Pakistan will not be able to take substantial measures or negotiate effectively at the international level.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 01 Jul 2015 08:39

Although he is probably more optimistic about India than warranted at present, Tarek Fateh's views should be mandatory in the education of all Indians.

A masterpiece of hope and good sense. Tarek Fateh for president of India.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Jul 2015 08:40

Modi-Sharif meet unlikely at Ufa - Suhasini Haidar, The Hindu

There is no confirmation of a meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, though both will attend the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit, officials in Delhi and Islamabad said on Tuesday. Speculation has been rising of a possible meeting after Mr Modi called Mr Sharif to wish him at the beginning of Ramzaan earlier this month.

Both Prime Ministers will be in the Russian city of Ufa from July 8-10 to attend the SCO summit that includes Russia, China and the central Asian states as members, while India, Pakistan and Iran have observer status. Mr Modi will also attend the BRICS summit at the same time.

The SCO process for elevating the observer states to members is likely to get under way during this summit, which would explain the Prime Minister’s high-level participation in Ufa.

However, given India’s unhappiness with the Pakistan government over the release of Zaki-Ur Rahman Lakhvi, sources said it was not “likely” that Mr. Modi and Mr. Sharif would have more than a courtesy meeting in Ufa.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Jul 2015 08:51

Water withdrawal, top 10 countries, 2010
http://arunsmusings.blogspot.com/2015/0 ... -2010.html
Note Pakistan.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 01 Jul 2015 11:18

Falijee wrote:Zardari Still On Warpath.........

Indian leaders only traverse Janpath and Shantipath in their dhotis, but Pakistani statesmen go on Warpath, the grand Champs-Elysées of the sub-continent found only in Islamabad. And K'rachi. And L'hore. And Faislabad. And so on.

So what if you go on Janpath and Shantipath, hain ji? We go on Warpath.

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 01 Jul 2015 13:58

In Pawkistan, all paths.. footpath, warpath eventually ends in downhill skiing.. As the mullahs here have often stated..

Once the brown shalwars from ISI get involved, Zardari will promptly strap on his ski gear to avoid a sunroof lever..

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 01 Jul 2015 14:33

Pawkis' selective amnesia knows no limits (Due to intensive inbreeding)

BBC report: Military commanders to discuss ‘MQM-RAW’ nexus

This comes after the London Metro Pulis afsar clarified that the confession about MQM-RAW nexus is a fake..

Else-e-where..

Six year old Brit-paki kid is the newest MS powerpoint exbert

Surely this kid is on track to unseat the current SDRE dhotiwalla running MS!! AoA!!

Shahzad scored 850 points out of 1,000, scoring 150 points more than the required passing score of 700 for the Microsoft PowerPoint. He took the exam at the Microsoft Institute in London, according to local media reports.

The reports further claimed Humza received 90% in creating and managing presentations, 50% in inserting and formatting shapes and slides, 100% in applying transition and animations and 100% in managing multiple presentations.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Jul 2015 14:49

So Pakis are always good at Stories Presentation with little substance- whats new?

sum · Post by **sum** » 01 Jul 2015 15:01

The reports further claimed Humza received 90% in creating and managing presentations, 50% in inserting and formatting shapes and slides, 100% in applying transition and animations and 100% in managing multiple presentations.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Jul 2015 15:31

Now that MQM are declared as Raaw Agints, shouldnt PAF, PA and Paki Navy launch an operation against Mohajirs in Karachi by starting with F-16's bombing Karachi.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Jul 2015 15:45

Tarek Fatah
Why not watch the full episode. He begins with the statement that the Indian upper middle class is more attached to money than to India, and that is a bad sign. And he is saddened by the way Hindustanis treat Hindustanis, "verbal assault" he says.

His criticisms make his positive statements more credible, actually.

PS: At around 00:16:00, he says Aman Ki Asha is an ISI game.

arun · Post by **arun** » 01 Jul 2015 16:43

Brotherly Iran lobs mortar shells on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. While article is datelined today, Wednesday July 1st, the event is reported as having taken place on Monday June 29th:

Iran border guards fire mortar shells in Panjgur

Besides Iran lobbing mortars there has been an armed clash on the Durand Line today between the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and Brotherly Afghan security forces resulting in fatalities.

Clearly the Ramadan season is not showing evidence of brotherly peace breaking out.

Turkeys wire service, Anadolou Agency citing Afghan Interior Ministry spokesman Sediq Sediqqi:

9 killed in clashes on Afghan-Pakistani border

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 01 Jul 2015 17:03

^^^ So both Iran and Afghanistan are busy pock- marking TSP. Nothing on TSP's eastern borders?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Jul 2015 17:53

India Rejects Pakistan Offer to Assist in SAARC Satellite Project - New Indian Express

Oh, what an indignity.

India has rejected Pakistan's offer to provide "technical" and "monetary" support to Prime Minister Narendra Modi's ambitious SAARC satellite project, maintaining that it was a "gift" by the country to its neighbours.

During a meeting of space experts from SAARC countries to discuss the modalities of the project last week, India also did not favour suggestions that it should be brought under the ambit of SAARC, asserting that deliberations at bloc level would delay the launch of the satellite on December 8, 2016, the SAARC Day when the government intends to do so.

Modi, during last SAARC Summit in Nepal in November, had announced India's decision to develop the satellite which will benefit all SAARC countries in various fields including telecommunication and tele-medicine.

After giving "cold response" to the project, an eight- member Pakistani delegation attended the Space Technology meet on June 22 which saw the presence of experts from all SAARC member states. Among the South Asian nations, Sri Lanka and Pakistan have fairly advanced space programmes.

"There was a proposal from the Pakistani side that it was ready to offer monetary and technical support. We politely declined it as the project is a gift from India to its SAARC neighbours," said a senior government official.

It has also declined demands from Pakistan that the satellite project should be taken up at the regional level. India said since it was a "gift" to its neighbours, it did not want to make it a "SAARC project".

"This would have meant deliberations and opinions from other countries and that would have taken time. The Prime Minister has specifically said that it was India's gift to its neighbours.

"There are so many other aspects that are involved. For instance, with the project comes the cost. Not all countries would be able to pay the cost and that would have held up the project. And we intend to complete by December 8, 2016, the SAARC Day," the official said.

However, the official said India was very much "open" to consultations from other SAARC nations on their requirements from the project. Several countries have given their "wish list", but the satellite would primarily be for communication purposes, the official added.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 01 Jul 2015 17:56

sanjaykumar wrote:Although he is probably more optimistic about India than warranted at present, Tarek Fateh's views should be mandatory in the education of all Indians.

Give me the punch line, why do you say his optimism is misplaced?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Jul 2015 18:00

^^^ CRamS, when you watch the full interview, you get a more balanced picture; the excerpts posted are only the positive parts of what Tarek Fateh has to say. If you see only the positive parts then it sounds overly optimistic. But that said, he is optimistic, he thinks Indian problems will settle down.

One of the unsettling things he says is that Indians detest Bangladeshis because they are short and dark, that the Punjabi "tall, fair" meme has infected Indians, that there is more hatred in India towards Bangladesh, than towards Pakistan. Well, Shri NaMo is trying to change that I think, and if what Tarek Fateh says about Indian attitudes towards Bangladeshis has any validity, then NaMo's push for "Bangladesh is the most important country for India" is all the more remarkable, it goes against the (Delhi?) elite opinion.

Fateh also says that Indians utterly fail to comprehend that the Pakistani Punjabis simply want to destroy India.

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Meanwhile on the Praveen Swami front, the following set of tweets:

For those asking about Scotland Yard’s purported denial of authenticity of Tariq Mir’s testimony on alleged RAW funding for MQM ... 1/3

English text of UK police spokesperson Alan Crockford statement: “we can confirm that they are not recognised as Police documents”.... 2/3

“Not recognised as police documents”, not “not police documents”. I marvel at the possibilities of dissimulation English offers 3/3

But one can go to the original BBC Urdu (please remember, the Metropolitan Police Service of London sent an (English) email to BBC, the report was made in Urdu,
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/world/2015/06/1 ... qm_deny_fz
The Pak English press reports on it, and it is picked up by Praveen Swami.
So it has gone from English --> Urdu --> English.

Anyway, the closest I currently have is: "एलन करोकरतुरड ने कहा कि इस दस्तावेज का ध्यानपूर्वक समीक्षा के बाद हम इस बात की पुष्टि कर सकते हैं कि यह पुलिस दस्तावेज नहीं है"

No, "not recognized as a police document"; but rather "this is not a police document".

I pointed this out to Praveen Swami on twitter.com; I'm 60% sure he will now block me

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ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Jul 2015 19:17

Kashi wrote:
arun wrote:The BBC and Owen Bennet Jones should have known better than to publish a story on the basis of information from an "Authoritative Pakistani Source" .
He was a former BBC correspondent in Islamabad in the 1990s, I believe he may have been there during the 1998 nuclear tests. Maybe that's when he "cultivated" an "Authoritative Pakistani Source" or being "cultivated" by one.

Wonder if Shirleen's girls from PISS were his liaison? Just like that BA Brig. Military Attaché.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Jul 2015 19:40

'Deep State' Unable To Help Their Strategic Asset Jailed In Saudia Arabia

Saudi Arabia denies consular access to Zaid Hamid

ISLAMABAD: Saudi authorities have denied a request by the Pakistan embassy for consulor access to Zaid Hamid, a self-proclaimed security analyst jailed in Saudi Arabia.

But Media Reports have always potrayed him as the mouth-piece of the Army Establishment

Diplomatic sources had said that Zaid Hamid was arrested last month for making an alleged provocative speech in Madina criticising the Saudi government.

Is this a Saudi delayed action against Ummah brother Pakistan for it's 'wrong' decision on Yemen - just wondering

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Jul 2015 19:53

Imran Khan Paid Salary While Being Absent From National Assembly

SLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) MNAs who did not attend the assembly session for eight months were paid ten months salary.
Salaries were paid to those 24 PTI MNAs including Imran Khan who had submitted their resignations in August 2014 during the sit-in. Each MNA was paid approximately Rs800,000.

The Oxford educated Kaptaan should have set a moral example by refusing to accept the amount, but then it is more easy to preach against MQM, PML etc etc

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Jul 2015 19:58

IS-inspired militants behind Safoora carnage, Sabeen Mahmud murder

'Deep State' now exonerated ; case closed

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Jul 2015 20:08

'Kammundu' Considers Joining MQM

Though slightly belated, a comment on the lunch hosted in the Karachi Club by MQM Senator Khushbakht Shujaat for former president and army chief General (r) Pervez Musharraf has suddenly become relevant because of the fresh contacts between Asif Zardari and Altaf Hussain.
Is there a nexus between the two, showing some kind of rethinking in MQM strategy, or are these totally two different or dissimilar issues.Debates had been on until about two months ago as to whether MQM would be willing to own or even work with Musharraf, looking for a place of prominence in politics, but the latter looked clearly disappointed or perhaps disillusioned with the negative response from the former to his wishes or expectations.But speculations about a link between the two died down with the passage of time, after MQM cold-shouldered its former mentor.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 01 Jul 2015 21:04

A_GuptaJi, thank you those excerpts my friend. I will watch the video later tonight. BTW, I didn't know that traitor Praveen Swami has picked up on the Paki angle on MQM. For sure he is going to be on Thappad's show tonight "bravely" and "aggressively" challenging the Indian govt with Thappad feeding him tailor made questions.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 01 Jul 2015 21:59

Zaid Hamid gets 8 Years in prison, 1000 whips’ punishment in Saudia

JEDDAH – The Saudi court sentenced Pakistani religious commentator Zaid Hamid to eight years and 1000 whips’ over criticizing Saudi government, reported by private TV channel.

According to reports, Zaid Hamid was arrested during a private tour of Saudi Arabia with his wife. Officials said that Zaid spoke against the Saudi government two weeks ago in a ceremony speech. Saudi court convicted Zaid Hamid sentenced to eight years in prison and a thousand lashes.

WOW : The Saudis are going to Insert their Istiqlal into Zee Baby's Istiqbal in the Camel Position - AOA!
Cheers

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Jul 2015 22:04

sum wrote:
The reports further claimed Humza received 90% in creating and managing presentations, 50% in inserting and formatting shapes and slides, 100% in applying transition and animations and 100% in managing multiple presentations.

Jealous yindoo infidel not able to understand superior capability of land of pure. PAF sent a 92 member team to China for JF-17 Thundaar to do the powerpoint slides for the Chinese leveraging their superior englees skills and PPT capability. They also did TOT to China.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Jul 2015 22:06

Why all this Hullabaloo, just declare all Mohajirs as traitors and start attacking Karachi with a miltary operation with heavy weapons.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 01 Jul 2015 22:11

Peregrine wrote:Zaid Hamid gets 8 Years in prison, 1000 whips’ punishment in Saudia

JEDDAH – The Saudi court sentenced Pakistani religious commentator Zaid Hamid to eight years and 1000 whips’ over criticizing Saudi government, reported by private TV channel.

According to reports, Zaid Hamid was arrested during a private tour of Saudi Arabia with his wife. Officials said that Zaid spoke against the Saudi government two weeks ago in a ceremony speech. Saudi court convicted Zaid Hamid sentenced to eight years in prison and a thousand lashes.

WOW : The Saudis are going to Insert their Istiqlal into Zee Baby's Istiqbal in the Camel Position - AOA!
Cheers

May I be the first one to say that the person releasing the lashing video will get 72 of the choicest hoors in heaven without killing himself in the name of Allah. Pleaj to go ahead and start recording now...pleaj

Ameeen.

-M

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Jul 2015 22:17

Nishan E Khyber for whosoever bring in the 1st Video. Saudi Whipper must whisper special word in Paki Prophet's ears after each lash. But , allah Ke fazal Se,there is very good chance that Prophet Hamid will develop special Rash before being honored with lash.
Saudi Arabia denies consular access to Zaid Hamid
( Some Mullah out there getting ready to ravish his dream Ashna)

ISLAMABAD: Saudi authorities have denied a request by the Pakistan embassy for consulor access to Zaid Hamid, a self-proclaimed security analyst jailed in Saudi Arabia.In Medina, a team from Counsel General Jeddah was denied access to Zaid Hamid and was not allowed to meet the analyst.Foreign Office spokesperson Qazi Khalilullah, responding to a question, denied knowledge of the sentence given to Zaid Hamid and said it had not been confirmed by Saudi authorities.
Hasina In Madina
The spokesperson further said that with the efforts of the foreign ministry, Hamid’s wife has been able to meet him at Madina prison.Diplomatic sources had said that Zaid Hamid was arrested last month for making an alleged provocative speech in Madina criticising the Saudi government.In The Mean timeIndia, Pakistan exchange list of prisoners.Pakistan and India have exchanged list of prisoners under an Agreement on Consular Access signed between Pakistan and India on 21 May 2008.The Agreement on Consular Access (2008) makes a provision that an arrest detention or imprisonment of a person of the other country shall be notified to the respective high commission.

partha · Post by **partha** » 01 Jul 2015 22:38

Bakistan Phoren Affice Statement

“Due to the efforts of the embassy, his wife was able to talk to him. Again, due to the efforts of the embassy, his wife will be able to meet with him on 30 June,” he said without giving further details.

Why stress on embassy's efforts, hain? To send a message to khakis that government is trying hard to get their man released?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 01 Jul 2015 23:45

he is saddened by the way Hindustanis treat Hindustanis, "verbal assault" he says.

It is part of the accepted order of things that the hierarchy in India condones and in fact expects verbal abuse of those lower down. It is obvious to a casual observer. A corollary is that a display of anger is taken as evidence of superior social standing. Speaks volumes of this society, so I need not say much more.

Suffice to relate that I have seen veterinarians in the west treat their clients with more esteem than physicians in India treat their poorer patients.

Give me the punch line, why do you say his optimism is misplaced?

Over half of Indians defecate in the open-it is premature to be thinking of world domination.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 01 Jul 2015 23:54

Oh the short dark Bangladeshi meme is quite widespread, that's no news at all.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 02 Jul 2015 02:42

Pakistan bristles at India’s 1965 war ‘commemorative carnival’

India causing Khujli up the collective Paki Musharraf's.

The government’s plans to hold a “commemorative carnival” to mark the 50th anniversary of the 1965 India-Pakistan war are being viewed across the border as a “muscular” assertion by the Narendra Modi government that could vitiate further the atmosphere between the two countries and reduce space for dialogue.

India has never celebrated any of its wars on such a grand scale, not even the 1971 war that ended in the surrender of 80,000 Pakistani troops in the erstwhile East Pakistan. After the Nawaz Sharif government took office in 2013, Pakistan’s commemoration of what it calls Youm-e-Difa or Defence of Pakistan Day on September 6 has been scaled down, and the national holiday that day called off.

India’s commemorative events of the 1965 war will run from August 28 to September 26 in Delhi. While the Pakistan government hasn’t reacted officially, a senior Pakistani official told The Indian Express that his country, which sees the war as a victorious defence of its territory by its armed forces, has no plans for similar celebrations.

The official said India’s commemoration plans, like his statements in Bangladesh, were not in keeping with the signals of reconciliation that Prime Minister Modi had sent out right after his election. “Going by the statements he made in Dhaka on the 1971 tragedy, and statements by the defence minister, such an event can only have a negative impact. We sitting in Pakistan don’t get the feeling that PM Modi is as yet ready to move from confrontation to cooperation despite the initial overtures,” he said.

“Muscular articulations such as these will do very little in the way of resuming dialogue, which the BJP leader has stated his government’s interest in,” Pakistan People’s Party vice-president Sherry Rehman said in a statement earlier this month. Rehman said any agenda for peace “requires an appetite for it, not an investment in valourising memories of conflict”.

There is also civil society concern that the commemoration would create more anti-India feelings in Pakistan, and give a fillip to pro-military lobbies. Also, historians are divided about India’s “victory” in the war.

Former Director-General of Inter-Services Public Relations Lt Gen (retd) Athar Abbas said such a commemoration could only reduce the space for dialogue. India and Pakistan see the 1965 war differently, Abbas said. “We see the 1965 war as a substantial victory. A big country, a big army was stopped and failed to achieve its objective. It was a formidable defence we put up, stopped the juggernaut,” said Abbas, now an active participant in the Track-2 peace processes. Abbas feels the BJP government has become a victim of its own rhetoric against Pakistan. “In an atmosphere where there is no space for dialogue and reconciliation, it is difficult to say how Pakistan will react, but the whole situation is not improving,” he said.

1965 ‘stalemate’
India and Pakistan fought the 1965 war from September 6 to 22, after the conflict had started with the skirmishes in the Rann of Kutch in April that year. Emboldened by its relative success in the Rann, and buoyed by India’s defeat to the Chinese in 1962, Pakistan attempted to create an uprising in Kashmir Valley and followed it with a military attack in August. India, under Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri, responded with opening the front in Punjab on September 6.

The 17-day war ended with a ceasefire and the subsequent Tashkent Declaration between the two countries.

Both India and Pakistan claim victory in 1965 although India captured 1920 sq km of Pakistani territory while Pakistan had 550 sq km Indian territory in its possession at the time of the ceasefire. Official Indian history of the war says that India’s “faulty strategy led to stalemate on all fronts”. Most scholars, however, credit India with having had the upper hand. Stanley Wolpert notes India “was in a position to inflict grave damage to, if not capture, Pakistan’s capital of the Punjab when the ceasefire was called, and controlled Kashmir’s strategic Uri-Poonch bulge, much to Ayub’s [Khan] chagrin”. India had then captured the strategically important Hajipir pass, which links Uri and Poonch. Prime Minister Shastri had announced in Delhi that he would not return the Hajipir pass at any cost. India however agreed to return Hajipir

in one of the last actions by Shastri as prime minister before he suffered a fatal heart attack in Tashkent on January 4, 1966.

The day India captured Hajipir, August 28, will see the start of the commemorative events with the laying of a wreath by President Pranab Mukherjee at Amar Jawan Jyoti, followed by a month-long celebration of which the highlight will be a “carnival” on Rajpath with mock displays of the operations during the war.

“I hope remembering the 1965 war spurs us as a nation to urgently initiate the process of dialogue with Pakistan to bring peace and stability to our region. Anything other than that could be counterproductive,” said Sushobha Barve of the Centre for Dialogue and Reconciliation, which organises a regular India-Pakistan Track Two dialogue. All armies of the world like to remember important events of the wars they have fought but, Barve said, she was unable to understand the phrase “carnival and celebrations”.

Lt General (retired) B S Nagal, director of Centre for Land Warfare Studies (CLAWS) in Delhi, which is bringing out a book on the heroes of the 1965 war during the commemoration, had a different view. “It will be wrong to say these are celebrations of the 1965 war. It is more like a commemoration which will remind the younger generation of what happened 50 year ago,” he said.

Historian Srinath Raghavan contends that if the government is really interested in promoting awareness and knowledge about the 1965 war, “it should declassify and make all the records of the 1965 war publicly available”.

India has so far marked Vijay Diwas on December 16, the day Pakistani forces surrendered to India in East Pakistan, when the three service chiefs and the defence minister pay homage at Amar Jawan Jyoti. During the previous NDA government led by Atal Bihari Vajpayee, July 26 was celebrated as Kargil Vijay Diwas. A three-day military exhibition was organised at the India Gate lawns on Kargil Vijay Diwas in 2000 but the celebrations went low-key thereafter.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Jul 2015 03:48

NaMo looks like has read BRF mind and is carrying out the wishes.

Fifty year anniversary of 1971 Liberation of Bangladesh will be celebrated in 2021.

One problem with Indian experts is the propensity to look for dark linings in silver clouds!!!

Why does the moron have to ask for declassification of 1965 when 1962 is still classified!

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 Jul 2015 04:22

Mihaylo wrote:May I be the first one to say that the person releasing the lashing video will get 72 of the choicest hoors in heaven without killing himself in the name of Allah. Pleaj to go ahead and start recording now...pleaj

Ameeen.

-M

Verily ! Doesj thij count ????

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 02 Jul 2015 04:41

ramana wrote:Wonder if Shirleen's girls from PISS were his liaison? Just like that BA Brig. Military Attaché.

Or he may have had a Paki wife ala George Fulton..

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 02 Jul 2015 04:59

Peregrine wrote:Zaid Hamid gets 8 Years in prison, 1000 whips’ punishment in Saudia

I still don't trust soothi sheets. He needs to be on TV peddling his khilafate rashida, ghazwa-e-behind and jeehaard in lap topi but without his hands. Then he can also be invited on Doornob's, burkha butt's, sh!tdeep turddesai's sickular shows.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Jul 2015 05:09

Gagan, Have to hand it to Zahil Hamid.
Only south Asian Muslim to go and preach bhagawat in KSA.

All these naram to KSA and garam to Hindus can learn.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 02 Jul 2015 05:25

sanjaykumar wrote:he is saddened by the way Hindustanis treat Hindustanis, "verbal assault" he says.

It is part of the accepted order of things that the hierarchy in India condones and in fact expects verbal abuse of those lower down. It is obvious to a casual observer. A corollary is that a display of anger is taken as evidence of superior social standing. Speaks volumes of this society, so I need not say much more.

Suffice to relate that I have seen veterinarians in the west treat their clients with more esteem than physicians in India treat their poorer patients.

Give me the punch line, why do you say his optimism is misplaced?

Over half of Indians defecate in the open-it is premature to be thinking of world domination.

Let me take the bait here:

1) What has defecating in the open got to do with "world domination"?
2) What did Tarek Fatah say that implied Indians are going to "dominate" the world in the western sense of the word?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Jul 2015 05:26

Laal Topiwale's woes are the direct result of the PA's refusal to accede to KSA's request in Yemen. A minor, nevertheless a message conveyed to the concerned. It is now clear that nobody who sided with the Pakistani Army in the Yemen issue would be willing to perform Umrah or Hajj anymore !!

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 02 Jul 2015 05:45

Laal topi wale preyed heavily on the Hindu mind
Now his Arab masters play merrily on his pink be-hind.