Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015
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After the standstill agreement between Djinnah and Maharaja Hari singh, followed by the Treaty of accession to the union of India between GOI and Maharaja Hari Singh, the pakistanis have no locus standi on J&K.
The UN resolutions clearly tell them to remove their army from POK, hand it over to India.
India's already held a plebisite when the first elected state assembly lead by shiekh abdulla ratified the treaty of accession.
End of story, Pakistan needs to be evicted from POK, it is in violation of a UN resolution.
The UN resolutions clearly tell them to remove their army from POK, hand it over to India.
India's already held a plebisite when the first elected state assembly lead by shiekh abdulla ratified the treaty of accession.
End of story, Pakistan needs to be evicted from POK, it is in violation of a UN resolution.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
The Chinese seem to have been really nasty with the Pakistanis on the interest rate. They gave the initial loan on a reduced rate and hooked Pakistan on to the project and once it reached a crucial stage, they are now upping the interest rate steeply. Now, nobody else is going to invest in this project. It was not a financially viable project because of Kishenganga upstream and Pakistan had to start the project because they mis-interpreted the IWT and thought they could spite arch-enemy India across the face. The trouble is that Pakistan cannot dismount the lion and so it will concede more strategic space to China. This is the usual Chinese tactic which we have seen across several poor countries. Just wait for the CPEC to kick off. Pakistan will be completely gobbled up by the Iron-friend China with a sovereign-guarantee of 18% RoI.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
New hue in the spectrum of the pakistani bestiary: SuperModuleFalijee wrote:Ayyan Ali -The Super- Model Mule- Finally Breaks Her Silence
With all this tension, is she still keeping 'roza'![]()
With all this tension , is she still keeping her earlier promise to free -feed her fellow jail-birds in the Holy Month
Just wondering !
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Modi is very effectively singling out pakistan in the subcontinent and China is exploiting this situation.Gagan wrote:China will do to pakistan, what it did to Ecuador. Apart from the emotional debt (Which KSA found out, doesn't really matter much with these congenital beggers), the cheenis are looking to get the pakis into some serious monetary debt. Then it'll be a free for all over pakistan's resources, business trade concessions, political concessions on the side, and so on...
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Absolutely true Inder Sharma ji, as long as TSPA is backing the allegation the Pakis will buy the story. They started with the Quaid's sister but then there was no RAW.Inder Sharma wrote:Associate any entity with RAW and it provides Pakistani establishment the legitimacy and the approval to crackdown brutally on dissenting elements.
Be it Baccha Khan(Pashtuns), Mujib(Bengalis), G M Syed (Sindhis), Bughti (Baloch), TTP(Pashtuns); or now Altaf(Muhajirs). Pakjabis have preemptively raised RAW bogey to impose silence or prepare military ground for imposing silence, dissent or brutal force.
The above article with respect to CPEC has only one political objective. It is to prepare a ground for declaring any Pakistani dissent against CPEC as treason in alliance with RAW.
Let’s be clear. The project of this scale will require land, water and labor appropriation on large scale. It will have massive subcontracts to supply material, labor, housing, food and even entertainment.
More often than not, it will be poor farmers, marginalized, ethnic and linguistic minorities who would be cheated out of their property, land, labour and daughters to make CPEC.
On the other hand, it would be Pakjabis/Army who would make moolah out of the contracts and the subsequent accruals. This loot and wealth transfer will definitely cause dissent, protest and violence.
The Pakjab Fauj is only deterring that voice of dissent by establishing the following narrative:
• China Pakjab Economic Corridor is Pro-Pakistan (although the financials are unfeasible and would make Pakistan for ever debt ridden)
• That anybody protesting against Pro-Pakistan is anti-Pakistan
• RAW is anti-Pakistan
• Those against CPEC are RAW
Only a very strong Islamism would be able to derive a higher legitimacy.
Every time I hear of CPEC I don't know why I start humming "... and she's buyin' a stairway to heaven"

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
And once Pakistan pawns off its resources, as it has started to do in Gilgit Baltistan, and Balochistan, Pakistan will have nothing left.
Its economy will be in complete shambles, it will forever be slaved to the godless lizzard.
The Lizzard has displayed borg like tendencies wherever it has traded, it just assimilates and rips off natural resources, just keeps on sucking the poor host nation dry to nourish itself
Its economy will be in complete shambles, it will forever be slaved to the godless lizzard.
The Lizzard has displayed borg like tendencies wherever it has traded, it just assimilates and rips off natural resources, just keeps on sucking the poor host nation dry to nourish itself
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Guys, I am seeing a headline ticker on India Today TV that ModiJi met with TSP PM good sheriff. Is this true or DDM imagination? If true, any thoughts on what prompted ModiJi to meet him? Opposition in India will for sure ridicule ModiJi if this is true.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Pakistani Man Arrested In Kuwait - Dressed In A Burqa !- Back Home Tactics Backfire 

Playing Romeo and Juliet in Islamic Kuwait !Manama: A Pakistani man who was arrested disguised as a woman near a mosque in Kuwait said that he was waiting for his girlfriend![]()
when he was apprehended by the police.

Kuwait has been enforcing a zero-tolerance policy towards people acting in a suspicious manner ever since a suicide bomber blew himself up amid worshippers at the Al Imam Al Sadeq mosque, killing 26 worshippers and wounding 227.![]()
Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015
Cross Posted on the Islam and Islamophobia Abroad Thread
An Article in the Daily Express titled Half of British Muslims 'support ISIS' as fears grow over influence of terror group has been withdrawn.
Here is the link to the ISIS Survey - ONLINE Fieldwork : 3rd - 5th July 2015 :
http://www.icmunlimited.com/data/media/ ... poll-1.pdf
Cheers
An Article in the Daily Express titled Half of British Muslims 'support ISIS' as fears grow over influence of terror group has been withdrawn.
Here is the link to the ISIS Survey - ONLINE Fieldwork : 3rd - 5th July 2015 :
http://www.icmunlimited.com/data/media/ ... poll-1.pdf
Cheers

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Burka? Apparently not!JE Menon wrote:^^Smalgand and Biglund were attending as observers. In burkha.

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
CRamS :CRamS wrote:Guys, I am seeing a headline ticker on India Today TV that ModiJi met with TSP PM good sheriff. Is this true or DDM imagination? If true, any thoughts on what prompted ModiJi to meet him? Opposition in India will for sure ridicule ModiJi if this is true.
From The Times of India :
Modi, Sharif to hold bilateral talks in Russia
UFA: PM Narendra Modi and his Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif will have their first official meeting on Friday since May last year here in Ufa Friday, both countries confirmed.
Indian officials said they were expecting a review of overall ties with substantive dialogue between the 2 leaders. The meeting will take place on the SCO sidelines at 9.45am IST.
Pakistan said it had had responded positively to a suggestion "from the other side" for a meeting between the two leaders on the sidelines of the Summits.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Is that near Tashkent?From The Times of India :
Modi, Sharif to hold bilateral talks in Russia
UFA: PM Narendra Modi and his Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif will have their first official meeting on Friday since May last year here in Ufa Friday, both countries confirmed.


Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Feeling bored, so I located the exact location of the train accident where now 19 Pak faujis and afsar families have died. They tried to pin the blame on RAA as expected.


Google will update the images whenever...


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
I was trying to understand what this whole pak-china corridor is about. The whole idea seems to be:
- iran-pakistan pipeline.
- developing Gwadar port.
- Pakistan china economic corridor.
This is the Oil logistics:

This is the proposed Iran-Pakistan pipeline with possible extension to Bhaarath:

This is the proposed Pakistan-China corridor:

Iran is the source of Oil. China is the major market for Oil. The next major market is Bhaarath. Pakistan does not have the money to pay for Iran's oil. So, either that Iranian oil has to be paid by Bhaarath or China.
Pakistan hopes to collect rent and be merry and if possible do some blackmailing if and when the time comes.
Bhaarath seems to be not going ahead with Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline because it simply does not trust Pakistan.
China which is playing the whole game needs to be understood. China wants to enter the Indian ocean for the following reasons:
- China has been curtailed in the south- china sea using Taiwan, Japan and South-Korea by US.
- China wants to be able to enter the Indian ocean to be able to get logistics for its imports(fuel) and exports avoiding the straits of Malacca.
- China would like to contain Bhaarath using its neighbours. String of Pearls.
String of pearls serves dual purposes for China:
- contains Bhaarath.
- eases the logistics of China.

From China's perspective, there are two ways of entering Indian ocean:
- Myanmar - Bangladhesh.
- Pakistan.
Pakistan route is a more risky venture as it passes through high altitudes and high risk environment. So, perhaps, China tried to build its logistics via Myanmar and Bangladhesh first as part of Plan A. Pakistan route was perhaps the plan B.
Now, about Pakistan - China economic corridor:
The only way Pakistan can earn money in this scheme is if China pays them large rents for long time period for using the infrastructures which are supposedly going to be built by chinese labourers, chinese engineers and chinese money for chinese purpose.
Iran won't mind pakistan taking rent. Because the cost would get passed on to the consumer. The consumer is either China or Bhaarath. In this case, it is China. So, either this corridor can be economical for China or profitable for Pakistan. But not both simultaneously. If its really profitable for Pakistan, then China would be taking losses. If China is making profits, then pakistan won't get much out of it.
From Bhaarath's perspective, this is a threat because:
- its part of Bhaarath containment policy by China.
- China gets into Indian ocean threatening the position of Bhaarath.
Bhaarath seems to have initiated a few counter-measures to this:
- raising the issue diplomatically because the logistics seems to be going through Pakistan occupied Kashmir.(short-term counter-measure)
- developing the Chahabar port in Iran. (medium-term counter-measure)
- Balochistan freedom. And if we are to believe the pakistanis, they say that even Sindh is going the route of Balochistan. (Long-term counter-measure)
If Balochistan and Sindh secede from Pakistan, then Pakistan will not have access to Indian Ocean. But, its a long shot. In the meanwhile, Bhaarath seems to be developing Chahabhar port to counter the chinese development of Gwadar.
- iran-pakistan pipeline.
- developing Gwadar port.
- Pakistan china economic corridor.
This is the Oil logistics:

This is the proposed Iran-Pakistan pipeline with possible extension to Bhaarath:
This is the proposed Pakistan-China corridor:

Iran is the source of Oil. China is the major market for Oil. The next major market is Bhaarath. Pakistan does not have the money to pay for Iran's oil. So, either that Iranian oil has to be paid by Bhaarath or China.
Pakistan hopes to collect rent and be merry and if possible do some blackmailing if and when the time comes.
Bhaarath seems to be not going ahead with Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline because it simply does not trust Pakistan.
China which is playing the whole game needs to be understood. China wants to enter the Indian ocean for the following reasons:
- China has been curtailed in the south- china sea using Taiwan, Japan and South-Korea by US.
- China wants to be able to enter the Indian ocean to be able to get logistics for its imports(fuel) and exports avoiding the straits of Malacca.
- China would like to contain Bhaarath using its neighbours. String of Pearls.
String of pearls serves dual purposes for China:
- contains Bhaarath.
- eases the logistics of China.

From China's perspective, there are two ways of entering Indian ocean:
- Myanmar - Bangladhesh.
- Pakistan.
Pakistan route is a more risky venture as it passes through high altitudes and high risk environment. So, perhaps, China tried to build its logistics via Myanmar and Bangladhesh first as part of Plan A. Pakistan route was perhaps the plan B.
Now, about Pakistan - China economic corridor:
The only way Pakistan can earn money in this scheme is if China pays them large rents for long time period for using the infrastructures which are supposedly going to be built by chinese labourers, chinese engineers and chinese money for chinese purpose.
Iran won't mind pakistan taking rent. Because the cost would get passed on to the consumer. The consumer is either China or Bhaarath. In this case, it is China. So, either this corridor can be economical for China or profitable for Pakistan. But not both simultaneously. If its really profitable for Pakistan, then China would be taking losses. If China is making profits, then pakistan won't get much out of it.
From Bhaarath's perspective, this is a threat because:
- its part of Bhaarath containment policy by China.
- China gets into Indian ocean threatening the position of Bhaarath.
Bhaarath seems to have initiated a few counter-measures to this:
- raising the issue diplomatically because the logistics seems to be going through Pakistan occupied Kashmir.(short-term counter-measure)
- developing the Chahabar port in Iran. (medium-term counter-measure)
- Balochistan freedom. And if we are to believe the pakistanis, they say that even Sindh is going the route of Balochistan. (Long-term counter-measure)
If Balochistan and Sindh secede from Pakistan, then Pakistan will not have access to Indian Ocean. But, its a long shot. In the meanwhile, Bhaarath seems to be developing Chahabhar port to counter the chinese development of Gwadar.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganda_Singh_WalaJE Menon
>>Ganda Singh police
Seriously????
Ganda Singh Wala is a village named after Decorated soldier Risaldar Ganda Singh Datt. This village is located just across from the Hussainiwali border (Shaheed Bhagat Singh Memorial is also here).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganda_Singh_Datt
Sardar Bahadur Risaldar Major Ganda Singh Datt (1830 - July 1903) was a decorated soldier in the British Indian Army, who served in the 19th Bengal Lancers also known as Fane's Horse.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
UlanBatori Ji :UlanBatori wrote:Is that near Tashkent?From The Times of India :
Modi, Sharif to hold bilateral talks in Russia
UFA: PM Narendra Modi and his Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif will have their first official meeting on Friday since May last year here in Ufa Friday, both countries confirmed.![]()
UFA is the capital city of the Republic of Bashkortostan, Russia
Here are two maps :


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Excellent post JohneeG
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johneeG Ji :
Your Post 09 Jul 2015 20:34 - Let us see how Gwadar develops for China's Oil Imports.
Xinjiang is exporting Millions of Barrels of Oil and Billions of Cubic Feet of Natural Gas to Eastern China. In my opinion Oil from Iran to China will most probably be taken by a Pipeline similarly to the Oil and Gas from Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.
China also has developed the Port of Kyaukpyu in Myanmar which obviates using Malacca Straits :
Your Post 09 Jul 2015 20:34 - Let us see how Gwadar develops for China's Oil Imports.
Xinjiang is exporting Millions of Barrels of Oil and Billions of Cubic Feet of Natural Gas to Eastern China. In my opinion Oil from Iran to China will most probably be taken by a Pipeline similarly to the Oil and Gas from Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.
China also has developed the Port of Kyaukpyu in Myanmar which obviates using Malacca Straits :
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericrmeyer/ ... -shortcut/
With Oil And Gas Pipelines, China Takes A Shortcut Through Myanmar - Eric Meyer
On the 29th of January, China opened, with little fanfare, a new oil link through Myanmar. Despite its low profile, this project has clearly been a huge undertaking, both technologically and politically. This 2,400km long pipeline runs through some of the most rugged areas on the planet, marked by jagged hills and ridges and dense jungle. On top of that, two stretches of the pipeline traverse two of Southeast Asia’s political hotspots, the Rakhine and Shan States, which retain semi-autonomous armies that have only just recently been nominally pacified.
The new route however, has one invaluable advantage in eyes of Chinese leaders: it bypasses the Malacca straits, whose infamous waters are infested with pirates. A 300,000 ton super tanker recently discharged its oil at the new deepwater port located on Maday Island—the first time this had happened—marking the start of new pipeline’s operation. That oil will now flow to Kunming, the capital of the southeast Chinese province of Yunnan, which borders Myanmar. The pipeline shortens the distance the oil will have to travel by sea to reach China by 700 miles. It also cuts by 30% the time this liquid black gold will take to get to the Middle Kingdom.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Gagan wrote:Excellent post JohneeG

That why US & Bhaarath have become active in Myanmar. Myanmar is under severe pressure from both the chinese faction and US faction.(Remember, Obama visited Myanmar). And Bhaarath controls Bangladhesh.The pakistani faction of Bangladhesh is getting hanged judicially. So, I think that the chinese might want to use the pakistan route as a plan B to secure their logistics to Indian oceans avoiding the straits of Malacca.Peregrine wrote:johneeG Ji :
Your Post 09 Jul 2015 20:34 - Let us see how Gwadar develops for China's Oil Imports.
Xinjiang is exporting Millions of Barrels of Oil and Billions of Cubic Feet of Natural Gas to Eastern China. In my opinion Oil from Iran to China will most probably be taken by a Pipeline similarly to the Oil and Gas from Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.
China also has developed the Port of Kyaukpyu in Myanmar which obviates using Malacca Straits :
The logistics to China has two parts:
a) Imports: mostly raw material and fuel from middle-east and Africa.
b) Exports: mostly finished goods to US, Europe and Bhaarath.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
WHo is Who Doing Paki Who?
Pakistan's top Non State Actors/militant commanders
Pakistan's top Non State Actors/militant commanders
List goes on making Paki Salwar Brown..Sirajuddin Haqqani
Commonly known as “Khalifa Sahib”, he heads what the US refers to as the Haqqani Network, which is in fact a group fighting under the direct command of Mullah Omar.His fighters are some of the best-trained militants in this region, and have carried out a number of high profile attacks in Afghanistan.Sirajuddin Haqqani’s step mother is a Yemeni, and he maintains close ties with Al Qaeda.
When questioned about the TTP, he has referred to them as “our brothers”.He was a close friend of former TTP chief Hakimullah Mehsud.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
US and India have not worked together in Myanmar until now. US has been trying to prop a pliant regime under Suu Kyi for a couple of decades now, in the name of human rights and freedom and democracy in Myanmar, and none of that was in India's interests.JohneeG wrote: That why US & Bhaarath have become active in Myanmar. Myanmar is under severe pressure from both the chinese faction and US faction.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Bakra Mandi Concept. A.K.A Speed Dating
Being Imported From Amreeka. Applicants Invited To Bell This Phoren Cat

The list goes on. Of course, there may be negative aspects in such events as well, as there are in any good plan. However, weighing the pros and cons, I personally feel that the pros outweigh the cons. The only basic requirements are respectable venue, [*]respectable sponsors, and pre-registration to make sure the attendees are genuine. For someone with the right intention, the rest of the details shouldn’t be too hard to handle.
In effect, the problem of matchmaking in Pakistan may be likened to a marauding cat in the society. The question is, who will be brave enough to take the first step to bell this cat?[/b]
[*] It is very essential that the venue be given the widest possible publicity to ensure the maximum attendance of the religiously based Islamic parties like the JI,TTP, JUI so they can come and participate in the Bakra Mandi

Preparing the ground for an Unislamic concept !The Pakistani society has seemingly made social progression in a number of areas; the one thing that is still stuck in a painful first gear is the way khandaani (family oriented) families tend to find matches for their unmarried children.
[*] Has it been declared halal by the maulvisSingle events or speed dating are now the rapidly accepted manner[*] of finding the right man or woman in the Muslim community in the US. The term speed dating may not be looked upon kindly by the khaandani families living anywhere. However, there is no element of actual dating in the event and although it is similar in function to a singles event, it is chaperoned.

Except for Imran Khan, who is an Oreo Cookie- brown on the outside and white on the insider - I dont see any Paki politician supporting this alien conceptOnce the introductions are made, the guests start to mingle. If a certain man had caught the eye of a particular female-side, then they single him out and attempt to strike up a conversation with him. Yes, it sounds like a bakra mandi (cattle market)but then, isn’t it about time we turn the tables on the men, who have always had the upper hand in visiting every female’s home in the neighbourhood, with his entire family scrutinising her?
Jokes aside, the singles events process isn’t as bad as it sounds.

The list goes on. Of course, there may be negative aspects in such events as well, as there are in any good plan. However, weighing the pros and cons, I personally feel that the pros outweigh the cons. The only basic requirements are respectable venue, [*]respectable sponsors, and pre-registration to make sure the attendees are genuine. For someone with the right intention, the rest of the details shouldn’t be too hard to handle.
In effect, the problem of matchmaking in Pakistan may be likened to a marauding cat in the society. The question is, who will be brave enough to take the first step to bell this cat?[/b]
[*] It is very essential that the venue be given the widest possible publicity to ensure the maximum attendance of the religiously based Islamic parties like the JI,TTP, JUI so they can come and participate in the Bakra Mandi

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Very disappointing. I don't what ModiJi hopes to achieve from this other than being roundly ridiculed by opposition in India, especially when nothing has changed from TSP and its 3.5 with respect to India centric terror. I also read that TSP killed one of our jawans as they were shaking hands. And apparently, ModiJi conveyed their "strong concerns" on TSP terrorismPeregrine wrote:CRamS :CRamS wrote:Guys, I am seeing a headline ticker on India Today TV that ModiJi met with TSP PM good sheriff. Is this true or DDM imagination? If true, any thoughts on what prompted ModiJi to meet him? Opposition in India will for sure ridicule ModiJi if this is true.
From The Times of India :
Modi, Sharif to hold bilateral talks in Russia
UFA: PM Narendra Modi and his Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif will have their first official meeting on Friday since May last year here in Ufa Friday, both countries confirmed.
Indian officials said they were expecting a review of overall ties with substantive dialogue between the 2 leaders. The meeting will take place on the SCO sidelines at 9.45am IST.
Pakistan said it had had responded positively to a suggestion "from the other side" for a meeting between the two leaders on the sidelines of the Summits.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
From March 19, 2015, a rather detailed description of the cost escalations in the Neelum-Jhelum project:
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-5 ... ncreases-f
The money problems are old
Sept 2014:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1129742
http://tribune.com.pk/story/444209/neel ... r-project/
"Neelum-Jhelum: Abu Dhabi Fund withholds $100 million loan for power project"
http://www.pakistanaffairs.pk/threads/4 ... ER-PROJECT
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-5 ... ncreases-f
The money problems are old
Sept 2014:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1129742
Sept 2012:ISLAMABAD: The strategic 969MW Neelum-Jhelum hydropower project is facing serious financial constraints and despite the prime minister’s instructions none of its units would be operational next year.
The fiscal problems stem from inability of the Economic Affairs Division to arrange $475 million (Rs47.5 billion) from local or international banks and financial institutions for more than four years now.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/444209/neel ... r-project/
"Neelum-Jhelum: Abu Dhabi Fund withholds $100 million loan for power project"
http://www.pakistanaffairs.pk/threads/4 ... ER-PROJECT
ISLAMABAD: Out of the total PC-I cost of Rs 274 billion for the construction of 969 megawatts (MW) Neelum-Jhelum hydropower project (NJHP), the government has released only Rs 5 billion during the last four fiscal years (2008-12), declining the level of confidence between Pakistan and China as the Chinese engineers working on the NJHP would halt their work from next month.....The Chinese contractors expressed their inability to continue work beyond August 10, 2012 if overdue amount of Rs 7.8 billion was not paid, sources added.
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[quote="A_Gupta"]India can offer easy loans/terms for food and pharmaceutical imports from India, if this crisis goes on for long. If there is a Grexit, a Drachma/INR exchange facility can be put in place. [quote/]
If there is a grexit from the Euro but not the EU, Greece is a very valuable foothold for Pharma and IT
If there is a grexit from the Euro but not the EU, Greece is a very valuable foothold for Pharma and IT
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
OTOH, I too have conducted Bilateral Talks with various Pakis who were certainly "High"-level (high on hashish, high on Zam-Zam Cola etc). I would characterize those as "Frank, Direct Exchanges of Concern and Mutual Interests". 

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
JohneeG Garu,
The Daurbhagya (bad-karma) of India is that we don't use right map to understand the India's geopolitical advantages. Look at below map & tell me if you don't see a solution to all the problems/challenges you presented above.
Dhimmitude flows as an antarvahini in this August forum that we don't see this. Instead we want to spend $500B over next 10yrs on defense so we can protect (sic) secularism!

The Daurbhagya (bad-karma) of India is that we don't use right map to understand the India's geopolitical advantages. Look at below map & tell me if you don't see a solution to all the problems/challenges you presented above.
Dhimmitude flows as an antarvahini in this August forum that we don't see this. Instead we want to spend $500B over next 10yrs on defense so we can protect (sic) secularism!

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015
IMF cuts Pakistan’s growth forecast to 2.6%

CheersWASHINGTON: The International Monetary Fund on Thursday revised its forecast for Pakistan’s economic growth down to 2.6 per cent for 2015.
The IMF in its World Economic Outlook report for July, it has sliced Pakistan’s expected growth rate by 0.3 per cent to 2.6 per cent for 2015 as compared to 2.9 per cent projected in April this year.

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
DJinns have not gotten Visa yet to come to Pakistan. So no Bijli can be produced out of them .
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Pakistan's real economic situation
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
One would think that they are working in tandem...abhijitm wrote:Modi is very effectively singling out pakistan in the subcontinent and China is exploiting this situation.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Saar,abhijitm wrote:was thinking for a change...
Pakis openly protecting Hafeez, Lakhvi is a godsend blessing for us. It gives us the thickest, hottest and meanest stick to beat pakis all over the world. As our economy and influence increases the stick becomes bigger and harder. They even make China to publicly support them and hence gives us another stick for China! I mean give me another thing better than this to have both our enemies in a crosshair. This is the best revenge for 26/11 and it is going to last until those yahoos die or pakistan take action against them. See, what worst those b@stards can harm us? Kill another 100-200 people? They are strategically useless for pakis. They will never be able to hand over Kashmir to their masters. In fact they give us a platform to confidently say "we will use terrorism to kill paki terrorist". Would this be possible had not those two been protected by the state of pakistan?
Step back for a while and imagine pakistan hands over them to us! Suddenly pakistan will be like reborn as an angel! They can tom tom their "goodness" just like how we are beating them everywhere. Suddenly all seculars, peacenicks in India will start campaigning. Kashmir separatist will get momentum. Not to forget Siachin peace park builders. Congress will start hindi-paki bhai bhai slogans. Burkha, Thappad, Sardesais, entire CNN-IBN and NDTV will have daily orgasms. The pressure on us to talk to them, concede, compromise will be immense. We will lose our tactical advantage to project pakistan as an evil all over the world.
So, if they handover we can celebrate for a short while, if they don't we hold upper hand and we can hound them, beat them as long we want.
just thinking...
Think deeper.
Imagine peaceful pakis handover Raqvi, Ibrahim, Sayyid etc.
Then evil Hindus will claim victory over Islam & demand the heads of Gul, Pervez, Sharif etc... What next, Pakis handover Kashmir & Pakistan to evil Hindus & go on a umrah?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Unlike poor, dark, rice-eating nations aiming for 7-10% growth, developed countries with tall, fair and faithful people derive their honour & dignity from 2-3% giroth. It is therefore proved that Bakland is a developed country. As the saying goes, Qudrat-e-Demonstrandum.Peregrine wrote:IMF cuts Pakistan’s growth forecast to 2.6%WASHINGTON: The International Monetary Fund on Thursday revised its forecast for Pakistan’s economic growth down to 2.6 per cent for 2015.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Nawaz, Modi shake hands, exchange pleasantries
Victory Over Kuffa Yindian
Victory Over Kuffa Yindian
OSLO: Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Thursday shook hands with his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi and exchanged pleasantries on the sidelines of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit.Not much is expected from the two PMs meeting which is going to last for 30-minute.However, it is yet to be seen what issues come under discussion when the two key leaders of South Asia come face to face.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22
Possible. More probably indirect benefactor.Kashi wrote:One would think that they are working in tandem...abhijitm wrote:Modi is very effectively singling out pakistan in the subcontinent and China is exploiting this situation.
For years US used pak as a pawn while india and china kept distance from each other. Rise of china and sudden rise of India made the game more complicated for US. They dont want to lose leverage on pakistan but at the same time want India to side with them. For US using japan on the east and india + pak on west can effectively sandwich China. Pakistan provides escape route for China and US doesn't want pakistan to leave them and sit on china's lap. But cost of having both pakistan and India on their side has increased tremendously last one decade. India making more and more clear not to help paki military if the west want India with them. And without helping TSP army any leverage on pak is useless. Hence the pressure on India to concede if india doesnt want them to help TSP. The west want both but unfortunately for them they can have only one.
Bipolarisation of asia is inevitable with pakistan totally going with china. How effectively we can exploit this depends on how long Modi will stay in power. Because he has made these moves and I hope he knows what he is doing and have balls to play it out. Not sure about his successor though.
PS.: MMS tried to checkmate china by accepting US tactics. Whereas Modi is playing his own game and making US to shift their strategy. Modi's policy is more pak centric and rightly so.