Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10, 2015

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 Jul 2015 20:18

Propagandu Headline In Paki -Paper : Sick resurgence likely , RAW tell Indian Govt

First , the source of the 'report' is suspect - The Newspaper's Correspondent

Second As one reader said "this is just hearsay and nonsense"

The Hindu quoted the report as saying that on June 6 in Germany, Sikh radical organisations such as Babbar Khalsa International (BKI-G) and Sikh Federation (SF-G) staged a protest in front of the Consulate General of India, Frankfurt.

“The event was attended by 8-10” people of Pakistani or AJK origin as well. “A few new Sikh families, which arrived from Portugal, were also seen participating in the protest.”

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 Jul 2015 20:54

Statement By Paki Phoren Office Seem To Confirm Existence Of Multiple Power Centres In Pakiland

Pakistan 'asks'

India

to adopt cooperative approach.........

Compare this with the ex Kammundu's recent outburst of "moo tor jawab daenge "

My conclusion: India should talk only to the real centre of power in Pakiland; everyone knows who that is . Bypass the civil admin. !

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 30 Jul 2015 21:06

Apparently Mullah Omar death is all but confirmed. The new Taliban chief will be Mullah Mansour and deputy would be Siraj Haqqani. Both big Pakistan supporters

Mansour fella is Taliban's "aviation minister" and was involved in the Kandahar hijack.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... t-taliban/

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 Jul 2015 05:31

Imran Khan Grilled (Like A Kabob) Over The Coals By A Paki Anal- ist

What was it all for Mr Khan?

TODAY Imran Khan owes the country an answer to this simple question: what exactly was all that sound and fury last August all about?

In the name of their grievances, they laid siege to the capital city for months and caused a totally unnecessary delay in the visit by China’s president, who wanted to announce $46bn worth of investment[*] projects for the country[/b].

[*] A.K.A. LOANS !

I refer to the massacre at the Army Public School, from which the PTI publically washed its hands with the argument that providing security at the school was not its job.

I refer also to the floods that have devastated Chitral,[*] the coverage of which has had to compete with the judicial commission report for space on the broadsheet and on the airwaves.

[*] And what about his fellow Pushtuns ( if he calls himself as one of them ) being displaced ( to put it mildly )by the so called army action

Let’s stop vilifying the only system of rule we have. Let’s work together to mend it. The PTI can start by doing its duties in KP province, and then turn to the electorate in 2018 with a story to tell.

Well said !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 Jul 2015 05:50

If one accepts the assumption that this illiterate creature was a creation of the Deep State Of Pakistan ( as Afghan Amrullah Saleh believes ) then the attached farticle is all farce and nothing else

Mullah Omar Dies

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 Jul 2015 06:06

Pakistan Foreign Office Says That A Co-operative Approach

Is Required And Pointing Fingers Towards Pakistan For The Gurdaspur Attack is 'unhealthy'

http://www.dawn.com/news/1197346/gurdaspur-attack-pointing-fingers-before-probe-is-unhealthy-says-fo

Pakistan's Foreign Office categorically rejected the "baseless allegations" made by Rajnath Singh, Home Minister of India, in the Parliament, today.

"Pakistan regrets the unsubstantiated and unwarranted assertion [*]that those involved in the Gurdaspur incident of July 27, had entered India from Pakistan and believes that the home minister’s provocative comments are a threat to peace and security of the region," FO spokesman said.

[*] But then were not similar denials made when Kasab was caught after 26/11

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 Jul 2015 06:12

Hafiz Saeed Mourns Death Of Mullah Omar

Birds of the same feather flock to -gather

Deep State did not keep him in the loop ?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 31 Jul 2015 07:23

Pakistan's "Vision East Asia" (PDF)
http://issi.org.pk/wp-content/uploads/2 ... 7-2015.pdf

IMO, Pakistan's ties with ASEAN, South Korea, Japan are all problematic because of its deepest, tallest friend.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 31 Jul 2015 07:30

This is old (2013) but amusing, in his testimony to Congress, Daniel S. Markey suggests that the US follow the Indian (MMS) approach to Pakistan.
(PDF) http://docs.house.gov/meetings/FA/FA13/ ... 130319.pdf

With some modification, an Indian-style approach to Pakistan comprised of tit-for-tat and de-linkage could also work for the United States. Where Pakistan is forthcoming, as it now appears to be with Afghan peace talks, the United States should seize opportunities and pocket gains as they come. Where Pakistan disappoints, as it continues to do on military operations in North Waziristan, the United States shouldwithhold favors. Frustration along one front (such as Pakistan’s inaction on LeT or its continuing support of the Haqqani Network) should not necessarily hold others (like U.S. investments in infrastructure and education) hostage.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 31 Jul 2015 07:33

Notice that Half-is-suar is attending all death ceremonies of all his terrorist colleagues.
He's almost there himself, must be wondering to himself, who will read out his obituary hain ji?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 31 Jul 2015 07:35

http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=269017

Sunday, July 26, 2015 - Lahore—The trade bodies from all over the country including small traders organisations, under the banner of All Pakistan Anjuman-i-Tajiran, have announced to observe shutter down strike on August 1, 2015 (Saturday) against imposition of 0.3 per cent withholding tax (WHT) on banking transactions by the Federal government. This was decided during the traders convention held at a local hotel. The convener of the convention and APAT central General Secretary Naeem Mir said that all trade bodies will, however, attend the meeting of Finance Minister called on July 27 and if talks are successful the strike will be called off.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 31 Jul 2015 12:07

A_Gupta wrote:Pakistan's "Vision East Asia"

If India has a Mahatma Gandhi, Pakistan must have a Quaid.
If India must have an IAEC, Pakistan must have a PAEC
If India must have a ISRO, Pakistan must have a SUPARCO
If Indira said 'Roti, Kapda aur Makan' slogan, ZAB would say the same
If India must have nukes, Pakistan must have the same.
If India has a 'Look East/Act East' policy Pakistan must have a 'Vision East Asia' policy

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 31 Jul 2015 13:30

Falijee wrote:My conclusion: India should talk only to the real centre of power in Pakiland; everyone knows who that is . Bypass the civil admin. !

There is actually nothing to talk about with the real power center of Pakistan, except if the talking is to be done with weapons.

So politically speaking, ignore the Paki civvies, and ignore even more the Paki uniforms.

member_29040 · Post by **member_29040** » 31 Jul 2015 15:37

^^^
And beat them with every stick you can find..

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 31 Jul 2015 16:14

Tufail Ahmed: Pak's Continuing War against Indian Civilisation
http://www.newindianexpress.com/columns ... 949359.ece

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 31 Jul 2015 16:50

Erdogan coming to Shittistan tomorrow. Could this visit be context of the coming Iran deal? Turkey has been conspiciously silent on Iran coming out in the open so far. I cannot see Turkey hapy with this.

Let me put it this way: If Iranians are becoming Persians, then Turks will become Ottomans.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 31 Jul 2015 18:45

http://www.dawn.com/news/1197598

Jalaluddin Haqqani is dead, say Taliban sources

How the pukes managed to carry on the charade for such a long time beats me. We need to wait for someone like Vikram Sood to clarify

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 31 Jul 2015 18:54

Myra MacDonald
‏@myraemacdonald
Someone really should ask the Americans today if they know if Zawahiri is still alive. All the Afghan war's big players are disappearing.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 Jul 2015 19:14

Jalaluddin Haqqani is dead, say ~~Taliban~~ Deep State

sources

Following the revelation of the one-eyed mullah's death , all sorts of ' little secrets' are starting to come out of the (Deep State's ) woodwork.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 31 Jul 2015 19:20

Falijee, the father Haqqani was seriously ill for a long time anyway and Sirajuddin had taken over from him quite sometime back.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 Jul 2015 19:25

Khalistanis Now Claims Responsibility For Gurdaspur Attack - Manmohan Singh (

) Khalistan Movement Chief

LONDON (Web Desk) – Khalistan Movement Chief Manmohan Singh has said that the Gurdaspur incident is a conspiracy of India’s RAW to defame Pakistan. 92 News cited.

In a statement on Thursday, he said that India is leveling allegations against Pakistan to suppress the freedom movements.

“The Khalistan Movement has not ended. We will not accept anything except freedom,” he said.

He also claimed that India is involved in the attacks on Mehran Airbase and Army Public School Peshawar.

Manmohan Singh said that India will soon disintegrate. “Becoming of Modi the prime minister is a threat to the peace in the region,” he said.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 Jul 2015 19:41

Fortress USA Inaugurated In Slumbad

ISLAMABAD (Online) – US Ambassador Richard G. Olson inaugurated the new building of the embassy in Islamabad at a ceremony, said a press release issued here on Friday.

Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Daniel F Feldman and the State Department Director for Overseas Building Operations Casey Jones, Pakistani government officials and foreign diplomats were also present on the occasion.

Bad, Good Sharif Duo not invited ; maybe, massa wants to keep a low profile on this juma- din

The construction on the building began in 2011 and it was completed at a cost of $85 million.

The new embassy building incorporates numerous features designed to protect the environment, including an array of solar panels, energy efficient lighting, and architectural sunshades to reduce heat in the building.[*]

[*]And it also contains the latest state- of the- art surveillance gizmos and high -tech spy gear

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 31 Jul 2015 20:23

^
And an underground bunker that can house 4000 or was it 7000 marines. This details has been shared with the baki quaum many times on Baki channels by eminent personalities.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 31 Jul 2015 20:26

Either americans are worried about paki nukes getting transferred to ISIS/AQ etc or they simply want to avoid 79 Iran redux.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 31 Jul 2015 20:38

^
Me thinks the part about 4000/7000 marines is CT. A decent sized bunker would be part of any plan just for the embassy staff in case of unusual situations.

Live Law ‏@LiveLawIndia 17m17 minutes ago

Lahore Sessions Court issued NBW against Actress #Meera [Nazar and Kasak] on a complaint by her Ex-husband for defaming the nation

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 31 Jul 2015 20:40

RajeshA wrote:
Falijee wrote:My conclusion: India should talk only to the real centre of power in Pakiland; everyone knows who that is . Bypass the civil admin. !
There is actually nothing to talk about with the real power center of Pakistan, except if the talking is to be done with weapons.

So politically speaking, ignore the Paki civvies, and ignore even more the Paki uniforms.

Absolutely true! They simply can't control the thousands of snakes they shelter.

arun · Post by **arun** » 31 Jul 2015 21:15

X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism” thread.

Today news that that the Pakistan National Assembly, equivalent to our Lok Sabha, has been informed by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Prime Minister’s senior aide Sartaj Aziz that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan could take up matter of involvement of Indian State Actors in the freedom struggle in the Islamic Republic:

Govt considering to raise issue of RAW's involvement in Pakistan with UN, Aziz tells NA

Today also news, albeit from an anonymous source, that our Government is working to absolve the “State Actors” in Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan of involvement in the Gurdaspur Terrorist attack:

Pakistan Government Wasn't Aware of Gurdaspur Terror Plot: India's Stand

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 31 Jul 2015 21:59

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/492 ... -says.html
Ijaz Butt hits out at BCCI, says India not keen to revive ties
Former Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ijaz Butt has said that the present PCB set-up should stop wasting its time trying to organise a series against India as "it would never happen"."It is a waste of time. It is never going to happen because the Indian board is not interested in playing against us. They use the excuse of their government's permission all the time to not play us," Butt told PTI today.Butt, a former Test batsman and a controversial figure in Pakistan cricket particularly when he was PCB chairman from 2008 to 2012, was clear in his mind that the Indian board, BCCI, would not play Pakistan in December."The Indians playing us at an offshore venue is out of the question. The truth is they don't want to play us. When I was chairman we even offered to play our home series in India if we got to keep the revenues but they flatly refused," he recalled.Butt said that the Indian board's decision to not play Pakistan was due to the seething relations and bad blood between the two countries since independence."We may talk about friendship all the time, the fact is the Indian cricket officials have always tried to hurt us in every way possible. Ethically they owe us at least two home series but they will not play even now," Butt said.
He noted that for no other series does the BCCI needs to involve its government except for Pakistan.
"It is nothing but a delaying tool and our board should not waste their energy and time. Pakistan cricket has shown despite so many problems since the last few years that it can stand and survive on its own feet."
The former PCB chief pointed out that the Indians had shown their true feelings about Pakistan cricket and players by constantly ignoring them in the IPL since 2008.......
Gautam

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 31 Jul 2015 22:05

Mr Izaz is right. It seems this is his butt feeling.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 31 Jul 2015 22:07

LoL look the nerve of the butt hurt porkis. The beggars want the revenues from Indian grounds. They should be shown their place and rejected completely. Instead the India A team can have a 3 match series with Afghanistan.

disha · Post by **disha** » 01 Aug 2015 00:20

As I understand., the head of the good Haqqani was rolling in the mud already for a year and the head of the good taliban (mullah omar) was rolling in mud for a good 2-3 years. And this news comes out now. Something even the middle-order management of the haqqani network and the good taliban did not know.

Feel free to correct my misunderstanding or understanding.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 01 Aug 2015 01:14

They "owe us".

I love this sense of entitl-e-ment the Pakis always display.

Victimhood from the times of the Brophet!

If they know our true feelings, and they know about "hindu mentality", why are they still begging us for a series?

g.sarkar wrote:http://www.deccanherald.com/content/492 ... -says.html
Ijaz Butt hits out at BCCI, says India not keen to revive ties
Former Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Ijaz Butt has said that the present PCB set-up should stop wasting its time trying to organise a series against India as "it would never happen"."It is a waste of time. It is never going to happen because the Indian board is not interested in playing against us. They use the excuse of their government's permission all the time to not play us," Butt told PTI today.Butt, a former Test batsman and a controversial figure in Pakistan cricket particularly when he was PCB chairman from 2008 to 2012, was clear in his mind that the Indian board, BCCI, would not play Pakistan in December."The Indians playing us at an offshore venue is out of the question. The truth is they don't want to play us. When I was chairman we even offered to play our home series in India if we got to keep the revenues but they flatly refused," he recalled.Butt said that the Indian board's decision to not play Pakistan was due to the seething relations and bad blood between the two countries since independence."We may talk about friendship all the time, the fact is the Indian cricket officials have always tried to hurt us in every way possible. Ethically they owe us at least two home series but they will not play even now," Butt said.
He noted that for no other series does the BCCI needs to involve its government except for Pakistan.
"It is nothing but a delaying tool and our board should not waste their energy and time. Pakistan cricket has shown despite so many problems since the last few years that it can stand and survive on its own feet."
The former PCB chief pointed out that the Indians had shown their true feelings about Pakistan cricket and players by constantly ignoring them in the IPL since 2008.......
Gautam

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Aug 2015 04:34

On another forum, kaalchakra wrote about the limits of Pakistani self-criticism:

“One can ‘criticise’ Pakistan, and promote ‘self-introspection’. But to not fall “beyond the pale” one must offer ‘solutions’ that call for at least one of the following three –

(1) more Pakistani military, to protect Pakistan against a rapacious India

(2) more Islam, to save Pakistan against the ill effects of Hinduism

(3) more Jinnah, to make Pakistan different from what Hindu/Gandhian leadership would want it to be.

The less a person buys into this living TNT as Pakistan’s universe of solutions, the more unacceptable/sell out the person becomes.”

I thought this crisply expressed insight worth propagating and preserving.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 01 Aug 2015 05:53

Good post, Hassan Nissar follows (1) - India very religiously while praising PBUH lavishly and Jinnah sparingly. This is how he survives in Pakistan.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Aug 2015 06:40

vinod wrote:
Absolutely true! They simply can't control the thousands of snakes they shelter.

Correct. That apart, they have no intention of controlling all the snakes. When everyone belongs to some small group that is opposed to someone else, it is an advantage for the biggest of the groups to keep the others fissured and fighting. And on a deeper plane still - attempting to control all the snakes simply causes each group to expend itself - so each of Pakistan's multiple power centers control some territory to the exclusion of others. It's like multiple kingdoms.

Whichever way you cut it - Pakistan is not a normal state and it is totally stupid of India to continue with its slavish mentality of copying the US and UK and trying to treat Pakistan as a normal state. We need to break free from our own mental slavery and I am not at all sure the BJP has broken free from this international mental slavery that makes us treat Pakistan like a normal state. BJP and Mani Shankar Aiyer may be more alike than we like to admit. Pakistan is a special case and being next to us it behooves us to recognize it for what it is rather than what the world community tells us about it.

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 01 Aug 2015 06:51

From the 'Such Gup' section of today's TFT:

url=http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/such-gup-96/]Splitting up[/url]

The buzz is that a famous Pakistani cricketer wedded to a famous tennis star from across the border, is trying his best to hide the fissures in his marriage. We hear they are close to splitting up and have been forced to keep the news from the press, on account of the recent Sri Lanka series. Apparently, the lady has made up her mind and will announce her decision soon.

What did she see in him to marry him in the first place?

arun · Post by **arun** » 01 Aug 2015 07:17

Anujan wrote:Apparently Mullah Omar death is all but confirmed. The new Taliban chief will be Mullah Mansour and deputy would be Siraj Haqqani. Both big Pakistan supporters

Mansour fella is Taliban's "aviation minister" and was involved in the Kandahar hijack.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... t-taliban/

X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism” thread.

Washington Post discloses that Afghan Taliban head, Mullah Omar, was treated at the Aga Khan University Hospital in Karachi, a fact that was raised by the then CIA Director Leon Panatta with the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s then President Asif Ali Zardari (?).

Mullah Omar’s sectarian identity as a Sunni Mohammadden did not seem to come in the way of minority Nizari Ismaili Mohammadden sect who control Aga Khan University Hospital covertly providing medical treatment. Mohammadden sectarian identity it would seem is secondary to supporting violence against Non-Mohammaddens, Christist Americans in this case:

In early 2011, then-CIA Director Leon Panetta confronted the president of Pakistan with a disturbing piece of intelligence. The spy agency had learned that Mohammad Omar, the Taliban leader who had become one of the world’s most wanted fugitives after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, was being treated at a hospital in southern Pakistan.

The American spy chief even identified the facility — the Aga Khan University Hospital in Karachi — and said the CIA had “some raw intelligence on this” that would soon be shared with its Pakistani counterpart, according to diplomatic files that summarize the exchange.

U.S. intelligence officials now think that Omar probably died two years later, in 2013, and Afghan officials said this week that he succumbed while being treated for a serious illness in a Karachi hospital, just as those earlier intelligence reports had indicated.

See here:

Taliban leader Omar’s tale reflects clashing agendas

arun · Post by **arun** » 01 Aug 2015 07:23

A_Gupta wrote:Tufail Ahmed: Pak's Continuing War against Indian Civilisation

http://www.newindianexpress.com/columns ... 949359.ece

Thanks for posting this article by MEMRI's Tufail Ahmed. Illuminating. Taking the liberty of X Posting it to the Islamism thread as well.

arun · Post by **arun** » 01 Aug 2015 09:02

X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global terrorism” thread.

11 active terror mails in Kashmir Valley run from Pakistan: US :

Economic Times

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 01 Aug 2015 10:16

X-post:

Najam Sethi thinks it is the Panjshiri cabal in Afghan intelligence that released news of Mullah Omar's death to induce a power struggle in the Taliban and undermine Ashraf Ghani.

Pakis do not appear too happy at this turn of events.