Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Sept 05, 2015

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Sep 2015 07:55

Have any of the real terrorists, TSPA, met their 72?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new ... 91220.aspx

member_28921 · Post by **member_28921** » 18 Sep 2015 08:07

Jhujar wrote:Regional imbalance’ rising from US tilt towards India: Sartaj Aziz

Mini Ganja: Adviser on Budwiser

ISLAMABAD: Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs and National Security Sartaj Aziz on Thursday said United State's defence cooperation with India was enhancing imbalance in South Asia, adding that Pakistan's reservations in this regard have been conveyed to the Unites States, Rudali Pakistan reported.Sartaj Aziz said Pakistan had also conveyed to the United States that conventional and non-conventional imbalance in South Asia should be considered while entering into any sort of defence cooperation with India.“It is becoming clear that America is preparing India to reduce the influence of China in the region.”Aziz said for the first time ever Pakistan has prepared a “formal dossier regarding Indian interference in Pakistan” which would be taken to the United Nations for presentation.“India accuses non-state actors from Pakistan of meddling in Indian affairs. But Indian state actors are interfering in Pakistan.”The adviser said Pakistan will highlight the Kashmir issue at the United Nations and other forums, adding that bilateralism envisaged in the Shimla Agreement failed to achieve any progress.Responding to points raised by some members, Sataj Aziz said that during the recent meeting between the director generals of Pakistani Rangers and the Indian Border Security Force (BSF), the two sides agreed to discuss ceasefire violations on the Working Boundary.“Now India is resorting to violations on the Line of Control and is using the pretext of infiltration for its cross-LoC firing.”

Obviously, to redress the regional imbalance, Al Bakistan will need more nukes - strategic nukes, geo-stratetgic nukes, tactical nukes and whatever other nukes there may be.

In other news, North Korea is restarting its nuclear reactors - probably to redress the regional imbalance with South Korea.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 18 Sep 2015 08:14

The attack is on Badaber base of PAF. Apparently all the freedom fighters have been killed, as per PISPR

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 18 Sep 2015 08:36

If Kabul wants we can host another round of Taliban talks: Aziz
Ganza going to Barber for Haircut

ISLAMABAD: Badwiser on Foreign Affairs and National Security Sartaj Aziz has said that Pakistan can host another round of Afghan reconciliation dialogue, if Kabul wants it to do so.“We can host the second round only if Afghanistan wants us to facilitate,” Mr Aziz said while briefing Senate on key foreign policy issues on Thursday. “We can only facilitate, it has to be an Afghan initiative.”Mr Aziz had during his visit to Kabul earlier this month for attending Regional Economic Conference on Afghanistan offered the Afghan leadership on the sidelines of the conference to help restart the process that got disrupted after it became public that Taliban chief Mullah Omar was dead.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 18 Sep 2015 09:21

JE Menon wrote:The attack is on Badaber base of PAF. Apparently all the freedom fighters have been killed, as per PISPR

Hmm indicates the level of love and support for the PAF within Pakistan

shaun · Post by **shaun** » 18 Sep 2015 09:36

Saleem Mehsud (@SaleemMehsud)
39 secs ago
#TTP claimed killing over 50 security forces personal in #Peshawar #Badaber attack

Nitesh · Post by **Nitesh** » 18 Sep 2015 10:13

It seems bigger attack,TV news was claiming that 7-10 <pick you choice> entered PAF residentail area, and then news was coming that 5 have been killed and operation over

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Sep 2015 10:21

Badaber has been attacked before as well. The Taliban like it, for some reason, like KFC.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 18 Sep 2015 10:26

^^Maybe some American "colonels" have been hanging around there for a long time... Like KFC, a two in one shot.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 18 Sep 2015 10:42

Any F-Solah's at Peshawar or a few K-9 Ereeye, have they embraced Shahadaat.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Sep 2015 10:48

Khrushchev wanted to obliterate Badaber along with Peshawar. The Taliban are on the job after five decades.

JEM, I understand that a model of the American living quarters is preserved even now at Badaber.

partha · Post by **partha** » 18 Sep 2015 10:55

From DAWN:

Nearby residents said explosions and gunfire could still be heard more than three hours after the attack took place.

A search operation for hidden terrorists is underway, Bajwa said. Corps Commander Lieutenant General Hidayatur Rehman conducted aerial surveillance of the base from a helicopter.

Seems like a big attack. ISPR is obviously hiding info.

Interesting read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badaber_Uprising

Zia's death could be linked to Badaber Uprising.

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 18 Sep 2015 11:09

Quote:
ISLAMABAD: Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs and National Security Sartaj Aziz on Thursday said United State's defence cooperation with India was enhancing imbalance in South Asia, adding that Pakistan's reservations in this regard have been conveyed to the Unites States, Rudali Pakistan reported.Sartaj Aziz said Pakistan had also conveyed to the United States that conventional and non-conventional imbalance in South Asia should be considered while entering into any sort of defence cooperation with India.“It is becoming clear that America is preparing India to reduce the influence of China in the region.”Aziz said for the first time ever Pakistan has prepared a “formal dossier regarding Indian interference in Pakistan” which would be taken to the United Nations for presentation.“India accuses non-state actors from Pakistan of meddling in Indian affairs. But Indian state actors are interfering in Pakistan.”The adviser said Pakistan will highlight the Kashmir issue at the United Nations and other forums, adding that bilateralism envisaged in the Shimla Agreement failed to achieve any progress.Responding to points raised by some members, Sataj Aziz said that during the recent meeting between the director generals of Pakistani Rangers and the Indian Border Security Force (BSF), the two sides agreed to discuss ceasefire violations on the Working Boundary.“Now India is resorting to violations on the Line of Control and is using the pretext of infiltration for its cross-LoC firing.”

Sartaj Aziz is the head Non State Actor (NSA) from the Non State Agency (NSA) funded by the government of Pakistan, a non-state. As such, he is the official spokesperson for all NSAs (Non State Actors) from Pakistan wreaking global terror in any part of the world.

He defended the terror activities of NSAs from Pakistan as follows:
"Pakistan itself is a non-state full of non-state actors and is itself a victim of non-statehood. India being a real state should not accuse non-state actors from the non-state of terror (It is non-non-violence as per our non-father-of-non-state).

There is nothing wrong with a non-state sponsoring non-state actors to commit crime and various terrorist activities. Being a non-state is the right and privilege of Pakistan and we will always eat grass and donkey meat to remain the same.

"In fact, " he continued, "that is the best and only way to become a real state, unlike India which chose democracy, economic progress and other high falutin non-sense, which are also against our martial and religious values. See, use of money to buy land is haraam and that is why use non-state actors as our real estate agents to get land from India. What can possibly be wrong with that?"

- NSN

--- I would like to cross-post this to BENIS but this stuff is too real for that.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 18 Sep 2015 11:54

BBC News article on the Badaber air base attack.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34287385

Interestingly, the first pic of the soldiers deployed shows them using Chinese made AK type 56. No MARPAT camo seen either.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 18 Sep 2015 12:05

from the above pee pee cee article

Militants have killed at least 16 worshippers at a mosque inside an air force base in Peshawar, officials say.
The gunmen stormed a guard post and then entered the Badaber air base and attacked a mosque at the site, Major General Asim Bajwa said.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 18 Sep 2015 12:15

This is delicious! A big Aman ki Tamacha (slap) to the Pakis!

Pakistan remains least favoured nation in India

WASHINGTON: Pakistan is the least favoured nation in India with only 18 per cent seeking better relations with the neighbouring state while 64 per cent wanting to stay away from it, says a new survey released here on Thursday.

The survey by the Washington-based Pew Research Centre claims that nearly three-quarters see Pakistan as posing “a very serious threat to India”.

The survey also describes Pakistan as “a long-running and particularly neuralgic problem in India-US relations”.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 18 Sep 2015 12:18

Falijee wrote:Ph.D Thesis, From A "Fly By Night" University In Pakistan, Submitted By An Pakistani "Information Technology Specialist" Found To Be " 72% Plagiarised"

[*] Just wondering if this "fly by night" outfit is a "subsidiary" of the famous AXACT Corporation headquartered in Krachi

No need to wonder sir. The article mentions the name of the university in question.

The thesis, “Parallel Scientific Applications Scheduling on Distributed Computing System”, was submitted with Preston University in 2006.

and a little further down...

Isa Daudpota, a physicist and independent researcher based in Islamabad, commented that this is a case of plagiarising an Indian thesis of 2004 by one from Preston University in 2006,

Did a little googling for "Preston University Axact" and sure enough, it appears there is an AXACT connection.

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Sep 2015 12:43

Dipanker wrote:This is delicious! A big Aman ki Tamacha (slap) to the Pakis!

Pakistan remains least favoured nation in India

WASHINGTON: Pakistan is the least favoured nation in India with only 18 per cent seeking better relations with the neighbouring state while 64 per cent wanting to stay away from it, says a new survey released here on Thursday.

The survey by the Washington-based Pew Research Centre claims that nearly three-quarters see Pakistan as posing “a very serious threat to India”.

The survey also describes Pakistan as “a long-running and particularly neuralgic problem in India-US relations”.

From the Pew Survey titled "The Modi Bounce", excerpts dealing with the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

But Indians are critical of the prime minister’s conduct of relations with neighbor and long-time adversary Pakistan. Just 25% approve of his dealings with Islamabad, 50% disapprove and 25% have no opinion. This disapproval is shared among supporters of all parties, including Modi’s own BJP.

Clicky 1

On the issue of Pakistan – a long-running and particularly neuralgic problem in India-U.S. relations – more and more Indians see the U.S. government coming down on their side. Indians say American policy favors India rather than Pakistan by a ratio of nearly four-to-one (45% to 12%). An additional 28% believe that Washington’s policy on the subcontinent fairly balances between Delhi and Islamabad. In 2013, 36% thought the U.S. favored India, while 12% said Pakistan.

Clicky 2

A regional issue – India’s long-standing tensions with Pakistan – is a particular concern for the Indian public. Just 18% of Indians have a favorable opinion of Pakistan, while 64% have an unfavorable view. And this has been the case for some time. Notably, better-educated Indians (76%) are more critical of Pakistan than those with less schooling (58%). Nearly three-quarters (74%) of the Indian public say Pakistan poses a very serious threat to India. Such concern represents only a slight decline in such sentiment over the past year. AAP (81%) and BJP (77%) supporters are more troubled than Congress (67%) adherents. And, in particular, the situation in Kashmir – the northwest border region between India and Pakistan – is judged to be a very big problem facing the nation by 68% of Indians.

Because of, or in spite of, their concerns about Pakistan and Kashmir, a growing proportion of Indians favor talks between Delhi and Lahore to try to reduce tensions between the two countries. Six-in-ten Indians support peace negotiations, up from 53% who favored such negotiations in 2013.

Indians living in rural areas (63%) are greater proponents of such discussions than those living in cities (54%). And AAP (74%) followers are slightly more likely to support talks than are BJP (60%) backers.

Clicky 2

About six-in-ten Indians (61%) say the Pakistan-based terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba poses a very serious threat to the nation.

Clicky 2

When asked to choose the most serious threat to the nation, Indians are quite clear: 48% say Pakistan, compared with 21% who name Lashkar-e-Taiba, 16% who believe it is the Naxalites and just 5% who claim it is China.

Clicky 2

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Sep 2015 12:50

PAF camp badaber is a beautifully planned and neat township with all recreational facility, pool, cinema, stadium etc.

shaun · Post by **shaun** » 18 Sep 2015 13:08

It was( still ??) a CIA base. U2 were based there. In the 80s became point for trans shipment of arms to the talibs .

sum · Post by **sum** » 18 Sep 2015 13:22

svenkat wrote:from the above pee pee cee article
Militants have killed at least 16 worshippers at a mosque inside an air force base in Peshawar, officials say.
The gunmen stormed a guard post and then entered the Badaber air base and attacked a mosque at the site, Major General Asim Bajwa said.

High level TSPA and family hallaled ( like the Isloo TSPA mosque attack)?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 18 Sep 2015 13:23

Looks like Pakistan Navy have killed a poor Indian fisherman off Gujarat coast

I hope PNS Khalid is sunk in retaliation.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 18 Sep 2015 13:40

Interesting information on PAF Badaber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Badaber

Peshawar Air Station is a former Central Intelligence Agency[1]-United States Air Force Security Service listening post, used by the 6937th Communications Group from July 17, 1959[2] until January 7, 1970,[3] when the facility was formally closed.[4] It was located in Badaber, a remote area about 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Peshawar, Pakistan.

Project Sand Bag

In 1955, the US Air Force started to survey various locations in West Pakistan for a radio intercept site. At that time, the US was interested in radio transmission intercepts from the Soviet Union. The survey team recommended the site be located near Peshawar in West Pakistan. Its final location was located in Badaber, a remote area about 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Peshawar, Pakistan.[5] Creating the site would be known as project Sand Bag.

Facilities

The United States established permission from Ayub Khan the President of the Pakistan government with the establishment of a 10-year lease of the property. Construction of the Peshawar Air Station started in 1958. Known as ‘Little USA’,[6] The air station was divided into two areas: the administration buildings, barracks, dining hall, movie theater, and a gym. The operations compound included housing for the specialized listening equipment. Later construction added a bowling alley, golf course, dependent living, and school.

Staff at the air base grew to about 800 personnel. An additional 500 support personnel provided other services such as mail handling, cooks, chaplains, teachers, etc

U2 Incident

Peshawar Air Station was used as the communication station for the ill-fated May 1, 1960, flight of a Lockheed U-2 spy plane, piloted by Gary Powers, which was shot down over the Soviet Union.

Location: Badaber on Googlemaps

It is a non-flying establishment. And consists of various administrative/operational buildings and residential quarters for officers and men. About a kilometer in width at max and 500 meter in depth. This is a classic build-up area. The pure pakees would've not had to make much effort to get hold of targets. Not to forget they'd have internal intelligence on layout and what to hit.

And unless the Pakistani security forces had quickly managed to pin down all terrorists quickly, these guys would've have had pretty good run of the facility. A lot would depend on the security detail in and around the facility. Because unlike an army establishment, the ability of an air force establishment to counter such attacks after initial surprise would be low.

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Sep 2015 13:54

ArmenT wrote:BBC News article on the Badaber air base attack.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34287385

Interestingly, the first pic of the soldiers deployed shows them using Chinese made AK type 56. No MARPAT camo seen either.

svenkat wrote:from the above pee pee cee article

Militants have killed at least 16 worshippers at a mosque inside an air force base in Peshawar, officials say.

The gunmen stormed a guard post and then entered the Badaber air base and attacked a mosque at the site, Major General Asim Bajwa said.

For a religion that proclaims itself to be “The Religion Of Peace”, its adherents seem to have very little qualms about attacking Mohammadden places of worship on the Mohammadden Sabbath, of Friday.

Article from Dawn confirming that the Freedom fighting Pathan Un-uniformed Jihadi’s targeted the Mosque used by the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Punjabi dominated Military:

Army captain among 20 killed in TTP-claimed attack on PAF camp in Peshawar

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Sep 2015 14:08

Umar (Omar) Khalid Khurasani claims his TTP attacked the Badaber base.

Umar Khalid Khurasani (real name Abdul Wali), is the journalist-turned Emir of the Mohmand Chapter of the TTP. In early September, 2014, the TTP led by the new chief Fazlullah announced the expulsion of Omar Khalid Khurasani and cancelled his TTP membership because of his interference in affairs of the Afghan Taliban and his contacts with the mysterious groups – Ahrar-ul-Hind and Junud-e-Khorasan. The expelled Khurasani formed his own group TTP-JA or TTP-Jama’at-ut-Ahrar (Freedom Fighters’ Group) by merging Ahrar-ul-Hind and Junud-e-Khorasan. The expelled Ehsanullah Ehsan became the spokesperson of TTP-JA. These splits occurred within three months of the launch of the North Waziristan offensive by the Army, Zerb-e-Azb. The two groups of Sajna & Khurasani, that is Hulqa-e-Mehsud-TTP and TTP-JA jointly conducted an operation on two Quetta airbases, Samungali and Khalid between the nights of August 14 and 15, 2014 (Pakistan’s Independence Day). A joint statement was issued by both groups. The PA/ISI has been making strenuous efforts to convert the Sajna group as ‘good Taliban’. The early June, 2014 Karachi airport attack was a reminder by the TTP that the splits have not weakened the lethality of the group.

Khurasani has also stated that he wanted to seize Pakistani nuclear weapons. His declared objectives as a staunch follower of bin Laden are to overthrow the government of Pakistan, impose Shariah, seize nuclear weapons and wage jehad until the Caliphate is established (as declared in his video message of March 20, 2012). He said the following reasons for seizing the Pakistani nuclear weapons,” The Taliban want to seize the Pakistani nuclear weapons and other resources, including the army, to defend Islam. Another objective is to use Pakistan’s military might including the nuclear bomb, army, and other resources, to guide other Muslim countries for the sake of Islam. Last but not the least, the Taliban will continue their fight even after taking over Pakistan, until global Caliphate is established”. In late February 2014, Khurasani killed 23 soldiers of the Frontier Constabulary who had been abducted by the Taliban from the Shongari check post in the Mohmand Agency in 2010. In a video interview with Reuters on June 6, 2011, Khurasani had described Ayman Zawahiri as the supreme leader of the Pakistani Taliban. In his June 6, 2011 interview with Reuters, Khurasani said: “We will take revenge of Osama’s death from Pakistan government, its security forces, the Pakistani ISI, the CIA and the Americans. They are now on our hit list. The death of Osama will not demoralise the Taliban. It had in fact, injected a new courage into our fighters. The ideology given to us by Osama and the spirit and courage that he gave to us to fight infidels of the world is alive. Our war against America is continuing inside and outside of Pakistan.”

sum · Post by **sum** » 18 Sep 2015 14:29

From PTI:
30 killed in Taliban attack on Pak air force base

A group of gunmen wearing explosives-laden jackets and armed with hand-propelled grenades, mortars, AK-47 rifles attacked a guard post as they tried to fight their way into the Badaber air base on outskirts of Peshawar, the capital of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.

Thirteen terrorists were killed by security forces, military spokesman Major General Asim Bajwa tweeted.

Sixteen people offering prayers at a mosque inside the air force camp were killed by the militants, Bajwa said.

A doctor at a hospital said they have received one more unidentified body.

Terrorists entered the camp at two points, splitting into sub-groups, sparking a fierce gunbattle with security forces, Bajwa said.

At least 22 people, including eight soldiers and two senior army officer, were injured in the attack.

Khurasani claimed that 80 security personnel were surrounded by the militants and 50 of them killed but it was not confirmed. He also claimed that women and children were given safe exit which was also not confirmed.

Bajwa said security forces reached the area shortly after and sealed it off but a gunbattle is still under way.

"Clearance ops still underway. Searching for hidden terrorists," Bajwa tweeted.

Looks like lots of senior afsars and their families would have been hit. As with everything in TSP, the truth will filter out in few days

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Sep 2015 14:43

Busy Mohammadden Sabbath day of Friday. The martial prowess of the Punjabi dominated Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan besides being trifiled with by the attack on PAF Badaber, is now trifled with by a visit by The National Bird of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The Punjabi dominated Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which has gorged itself on its fellow citizens money to stockpile weapons continues its unblemished record of not demonstrating a single attempt to thwart a drone strike of which there have been around 380 over a time frame stretching almost to a decade of which half was under a Military Dictatorship

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Truly the Drone is Pakistan's National Bird and cannot be interfered with:

US drone strike kills six in South Waziristan Agency

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Sep 2015 15:06

Aditya_V wrote:Looks like Pakistan Navy have killed a poor Indian fisherman off Gujarat coast

I hope PNS Khalid is sunk in retaliation.

Zee News confirm that an Indian fisherman identified as Iqbal Abdul Bhattihas been killed by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :

Pakistan Navy kills Indian fishermen off Gujarat coast

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Sep 2015 15:28

X Posted from the “Siachen News & Discussion” thread.

The Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Punjabi Dominated Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s futile attempt to challenge and occupy Indian territory on the Siachen Glacier is resulting in their running a high casualty rate. The Islamic Republics attempt has in the period between 2003-10 resulted in 213 deaths and does not count the 140 Uniformed Jihadi’s who died in a fatal avalanche that hit a uniformed Jihadi camp in April 2012.

[quote]Despite a ceasefire that has seen no targeted firing since a 2003 agreement, the Pakistan Army has been losing an average of 30 soldiers a year on Siachen. The deaths are associated with the perils of deployment at high altitude - medical complications, avalanches, bad weather and more. With a total of 213 deaths recorded at Siachen between 2003-10, the glacier has been taking its toll. The average of 30 deaths a year does not include the 140 soldiers that Pakistan lost in a fatal avalanche that hit a military camp in April 2012.

On the other hand, Indian casualties on glacier have progressively decreased over the years and are currently in single digits. Official data released in parliament shows that Indian soldiers have died due to climatic conditions at an average of 10 a year. In recent years this number has almost come down to single digits, with 5 sold ..

Read more at:

Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a year on highest battlefield

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 18 Sep 2015 16:03

Pew research center is one from the long list of Khan controlled institutions. S&P, Moody`s, IMF, Pew, numerous agencies. An intricate web of misinformation, propaganda and manipulation of finances.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Sep 2015 16:10

arun wrote: For a religion that proclaims itself to be “The Religion Of Peace”, its adherents seem to have very little qualms about attacking Mohammadden places of worship on the Mohammadden Sabbath, of Friday.

The Talibans' justification is covered in this debate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TD8PA4IZao

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 18 Sep 2015 16:20

Have not read the juicy details yet but ~~Bajwa~~ Baaja

Sahib of the Propagandu Dept of the Paki Fauj will obviously have his hands full and will have to work overtime ( with no chance of double time pay for weekend work) to support the bombastic statement by his Sadaam Hussein look-alike boss ( A.K.A Bad Sherrif ) that the so-called Zarb-Azb has been a 100% success .

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Sep 2015 16:31

arun wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Looks like Pakistan Navy have killed a poor Indian fisherman off Gujarat coast

I hope PNS Khalid is sunk in retaliation.
Zee News confirm that an Indian fisherman identified as Iqbal Abdul Bhattihas been killed by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :

Pakistan Navy kills Indian fishermen off Gujarat coast

Zee News report is incorrect. Still not confirmed attack was carried out by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

The ship that fired had no markings and didn't fly a flag. It had about 40 people on board and slightly bigger than the Indian fishing vessel. Till we do a through investigation it will be difficult to pin-point the people behind the firing," Inspector General Operations of Cost Guard VSR Murty told NDTV

Sources said it is not confirmed yet whether the ship belonged to Pakistan's coast guard, the Maritime Security Agency or MSA, as some early reports suggested.

The attackers could also have been armed fishermen, the sources said.

One Killed as Unmarked Ship Fires at Indian Fishing Boat Off Gujarat Coast

member_29171 · Post by **member_29171** » 18 Sep 2015 16:38

Newby post. I understand Reddit does not have high credibility here. However, off late I have noticed User comments on Reddit are increasingly reflecting awareness about pak perfidy. Here is a sample of comments reg. news on Badaber base attack:

"tell me something new about that Shitstan"
"Friendly fire!"
"it's harboring 2008 Mumbai attack masterminds, 1993 Mumbai bomb blasts masterminds, 1999 IC-814 hijackers etc."
"Pakistan's biggest export is terrorism. Its military is totally complicit in this regard"

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 18 Sep 2015 17:07

"As ye sow,so shall ye reap".Pak has sowed the terrorist wind,now let it reap the whirlwind!
The attack on an air base may also be retribution for the Pakis,who have allowed US drone air strikes launched from Paki air bases.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/s ... -says-army

Taliban kill 17 in mosque at Pakistani airbase
Suicide team attack worshippers at Badaber base near Peshawar in north-west of country
Pakistani soldiers and rescue workers outside the Badaber airbase on Friday. Photograph: A Majeed/AFP/Getty

Jon Boone in Islamabad
Friday 18 September 2015

At least 17 people including an army officer have been killed after Taliban suicide attackers stormed a military base on the outskirts of one of Pakistan’s major cities.

The drawn-out attack by a squad of 13 militants on Badaber base, a Pakistan Air Force (PAF) base near Peshawar in the north-west of the country, also injured 22 people, including 10 soldiers.

The incident underlined the continued threat posed by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) despite more than a year-long battering by military operations.

A military spokesman, General Asim Bajwa, said the fighters entered the camp in the early morning from two locations before “further splitting into subgroups”. While one group was “contained” near a guard room, another rushed into a mosque, attacking worshippers with guns and grenades.

Bajwa said 16 people who had been at morning prayers were killed. An air force official said all the dead were likely to be PAF employees.

Emergency teams transfer the dead and injured to ambulances. Photograph: Arshad Arbab/EPA

The army spokesman posted graphic photos on Twitter of dead militants, some in pools of blood, wearing brown shalwar kameez suits similar to those used by paramilitary forces from the tribal areas.

It was one of the most serious attacks in the country in recent months and comes despite an overall improvement in security since the launch in June last year of Operation Zarb-e-Azb. The operation was an attempt to crush the TTP both in its sanctuary of North Waziristan on the Afghan border and other strongholds around the country and has led to a 70% drop in violence this year.

Military and civilian airports have been repeatedly targeted by the TTP over the years; in the attack on the Mehran naval airbase in Karachi in 2011, two aircraft were destroyed.

The PAF has played a major role in Zarb-e-Azb, with the military relying heavily on aerial bombardments of militant positions in North Waziristan.

Whilst the army spokesman posted updates on Twitter, the TTP pushed its version of events, emailing statements that claimed a total of 14 fidayeen (suicide fighters) had been involved in the attack.

Even as the attack continued, a video was distributed online showing men purportedly involved in the attack wearing white scarves on their heads and practising firing rocket-propelled grenades in a hilly landscape. The video suggested that the attackers were supplied by a TTP group from Darra Adam Khel, part of the restive tribal areas near Peshawar, named after a deceased militant commander known as “the jackal”.

In a segment that included a speech by a militant commander, the group claimed that its capabilities remained undiminished despite Zarb-e-Azb and vowed to continue attacks on military facilities.

General Raheel Sharif, Pakistan’s army chief who has been lionised over his tough stance against terrorism, travelled to Peshawar to observe the clearing operation and meet injured troops.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 18 Sep 2015 17:24

There has been Progress :

Taliban attack Pak air force base in Peshawar, 30 killed

PESHAWAR: In the deadliest attack on a military installation this year, Taliban gunmen stormed a Pakistani air force base early on Friday, killing at least 17 people, a military spokesman said.

Thirteen terrorists were killed by security forces, military spokesman Major General Asim Bajwa tweeted.

Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 18 Sep 2015 17:56

Bleeding in Siachen: Pakistan losing 30 soldiers a year on highest battlefield

Despite a ceasefire that has seen no targeted firing since a 2003 agreement, the Pakistan Army has been losing an average of 30 soldiers a year on Siachen. The deaths are associated with the perils of deployment at high altitude - medical complications, avalanches, bad weather and more. With a total of 213 deaths recorded at Siachen between 2003-10, the glacier has been taking its toll. The average of 30 deaths a year does not include the 140 soldiers that Pakistan lost in a fatal avalanche that hit a military camp in April 2012.

On the other hand, Indian casualties on glacier have progressively decreased over the years and are currently in single digits.Official data released in parliament shows that Indian soldiers have died due to climatic conditions at an average of 10 a year. In recent years this number has almost come down to single digits, with 5 soldiers lost this year, six in 2014 and ten in 2013. This despite the fact that the Indian Army is manning higher posts and is deployed across the length and breadth of the glacier, unlike Pakistan that is restricted to the mountains surrounding the area. In both 2007 and 2008 for example, the Indian army suffered four fatal casualties. Correspondingly, the Pakistan Army lost 13 in 2008 and 12 in 2007 in the Siachen region.

Cheers

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Sep 2015 18:06

^^^ Do not steal my thunder

. Already posted on this very page some 9 posts above yours : Clicky

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 18 Sep 2015 18:10

The high number of casualties confirm my conjecture. But it seems there was a PA element as well in the establishment. This might have prevented an outright massacre. But this is a very well chosen target. Sign of good planning. Pakistan will have to literally double the security detail of its stand-alone and isolated military establishments like these.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 18 Sep 2015 18:24

arun wrote:^^^ Do not steal my thunder . Already posted on this very page some 9 posts above yours : Clicky

arun Ji :
Far be it from me any such intentions. Sorry - Mistook took place!
Cheers