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Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Oct 2015 15:36

Russian Air Force in Syria deploying over 50 planes & choppers – Defense Ministry

Russia’s Air Force fleet in Syria includes over 50 warplanes and helicopters, a spokesman for the Defense Ministry said, reporting eight overnight sorties.

Previously Russia hadn’t revealed any detail of its contingent in Syria, which started an aerial campaign on Wednesday to help the Syrian Army fight against terrorist troops.

“The air group was deployed on very short notice. It was possible because we had most of the materiel and ammunition ready at our depot in Tartus. We only had to move our aircraft and deliver some extra equipment,” Igor Konashenkov told the media.

The fleet includes the latest Su-24M and Su-25 ground attack planes, he said.

Konashenkov added that the airfield from where the Russian jets are launching their attacks is guarded by Russian airborne troops.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 15:40

pic of OFAB bomb used on su24. seems like dates back to WW2 but pulled out of mothballs.
http://i.imgur.com/EPG6Kdu.jpg

Rus mod releases new video of night airstrikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=82&v=s_h8YISqJRQ

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 15:41

video of Su24 going out at night from latakia base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHe3qf ... e=youtu.be

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Oct 2015 15:45

Singha wrote:
Rus mod releases new video of night airstrikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=82&v=s_h8YISqJRQ

These more look like PGM be it LGB or Glonass

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 15:52

other than a few leftover neocons and saber rattlers like mccain, american public comments on news media seems to be quite supportive that someone has taken up the cudgels to prop up assad and beat back the islamist fronts. all mention the horrible consequences that followed the removal of saddam and qadhafi and the pipe dreams of liberal democracies magically springing up from the ruins.

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 01 Oct 2015 16:13

^^
Thats why one sees election hopefuls like Trump supporting Russia. He has to talk the language of the people. McCain and similar fire eaters have no such responsibility.

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 01 Oct 2015 16:25

The Russians are hitting Jaish al fatah.
The article admits that they are backed by Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
So genius Americans still differentiate between good and bad terrorists. What morons.
Russian strikes are disrobing the Khan completely.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... dates.html

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 01 Oct 2015 16:35

So 2 of the ISIS' sponsors have started

already: USA and KSA. Now we need Turkey and Israel to come out also

. What game is UK playing, being apparently immune to refugee crisis, unlike Frogistan?

The US

exposes sheer duplicity on the part of the White House, hain? Consider this:
a) Syria has a UN-recognized government
b) That govt is under severe attack by Obama-backed Islamic terrorists (OBIT

) - even the capital, and all major cities.
c) Meanwhile, the ISIS vermin are committing genocide, since the Syrian army is embattled by the OBIT.

What is the correct solution sequence?
a) Wipe out the OBIT which is attacking the Syrian government.
b) Once the Syrian army is released from that pressure, wipe out the ISIS.

The reverse sequence cannot work - by the time operations against ISIS get underway, the bases from where those have to be conducted will be overrun by OBIT.

So the Russians are absolutely correct in saying that their target is ISIS. It is the US and other sponsors of Islamic terror that are protecting the ISIS by keeping the Syrian Army tied up.

So OBIT and ISIS are obviously on the same side, helping each other. IOW, the evidence suggests more and more strongly every day that DupleeCity is **THE** Islamic terror sponsor. Ashton Carter should go public along with all the American and British officers and soldiers who have been wounded in Afghanistan and Iraq. Several honest former Generals have, at immense risk to themselves.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 01 Oct 2015 16:54

So b4 v were told that only TWO Indians and 43 Iranians had died in the Saudi racist/sectarian massacre. Slightly revised figures now.

Iran's Hajj and Pilgrimage Organization said Thursday that the number of Iranian pilgrims killed now stands at 464, according to official broadcaster PressTV. Fourteen others are still receiving treatment in Saudi hospitals, it said.

See the map: 36 Pakistanis and 45 Indians. Wonder who the other 600 were.
All because a KSA "prince" was zooming by, so the Saudi racist polis must have started beating up the shia crowd.

Now u c why the bodies shown first (and the later ones piled up by bulldozers) were sdre.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 17:02

GOTUS has lost the initiative bigtime in syria. for years they were meddling at will and playing games. well their bluff has been called.

probably beginning of the end of the arab spring cats paw schemes.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 01 Oct 2015 17:05

UlanBatori wrote:Wonder who the other 600 were.

The article provides breakdown of the full 700. 464 from Iran alone...

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 01 Oct 2015 17:25

The Russian strikes have made western leaders look like jokers overnight. All H&D gone out of their strategic genius hats.

habal · Post by **habal** » 01 Oct 2015 17:29

Singha wrote:GOTUS has lost the initiative bigtime in syria. for years they were meddling at will and playing games. well their bluff has been called.

probably beginning of the end of the arab spring cats paw schemes.

they were bluffing only in public, media consumption and in media spotlight.

Behind the scenes, they were/are actively helping out ISIS, OBIT™, Nusra through active airdrops of arms, ammo and facilitating logistics and communication lines. Helping stubborn pro-regime military elements to switch sides and leave their equipment behind for ISIS, OBIT to use was a key strategy. Actively intervening on behalf of ISIS to resolve border supply and logistics issues with Iraq. Keeping Iraqi army underarmed and without air power by delaying supply for ordered warplanes. We must consider the scenario that after they occupy mid-east they will turn their eyes elsewhere, and that is why I do not understand the silence of the 'silent majority' of nations.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Oct 2015 17:37

According to Russian MOD , modernised version of Su-24 and Su-25 were used in the strikes , that explains the accuracy from dumb bombs

habal · Post by **habal** » 01 Oct 2015 17:45

moderate rebels are those who cut throats slowly.

ISIS is fanatics who do it very fast.

USA and Obama have problem only with style, because substance is same in both. Do they think the entire humanity is that dumb.

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 01 Oct 2015 18:19

and now crying hoarse abt civilian casualties due to Ruskie bombings !! ofc ISIL is not a legit army of a nation. wtf is going on in Yemen wrt saudi bombing.. not a squeak from the americans? well done putin..

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 18:45

it seems the outfit struck today 'jaish al fatah' has a lot of volunteers from chechnya and dagestan who easily moved across georgia and then turkey in buses and cars laid on for them. a man living in southern russia has commented these people can come back in the same way and he will either have to fight them in his backyard or russia takes them on in syria itself.

from pov of NATO I think the ISIS itself is divided into two parts - good ISIS and bad ISIS. good ISIS have the run of place in turkey and will go after shia regimes and be amenable to working together as new tyrants of syria. the bad ISIS are the ones who want to kill everyone without end.

even for the bad ISIS, entire NATO with some 3000 modern 4.5 gen fighters and massa with 100 of bombers is unable to mount a solid air campaign to support the iraqis atleast ? half of iraq continues to remain under ISIS control.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Oct 2015 18:59

Iraqi PM says he supports Russian airstrikes against the Islamic State in Syria

“Don’t forget Iraq was attacked from across the Syrian border into Iraq by Daesh, by ISIL, and that cost us a lot of human costs in terms of people killed, people being kidnapped, people being enslaved,” he said.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 19:06

Islamic State terrorists Thursday released three new videos depicting the beheadings of 25 victims at separate places: Ten Kurdish Peshmerga fighters taken captive in Iraq: 13 “pro-Assad traitors and collaborators” at ISIS Syrian HQ in Raqqa, and two unidentified victims accused of “heresy” in the town of Hasaka.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 19:06

take a look at the sheer number of groups and jihadis who are part of the 'rebels'

nobody can sort out who are good or bad among this lot. any bandit with a few guns and boys to wield them has declared himself a brigadier and commands a "xyz brigade" .... this is way more warlords than afghanistan ever had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a ... and_allies

habal · Post by **habal** » 01 Oct 2015 19:34

wonder what happened to the 5 'Moderate Rebels' left in Syria...

@ $100Million a piece.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Oct 2015 19:36

this is interesting

Il-20M deployment aids Russian strikes in Syria

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Oct 2015 19:37

Russian air strikes in Syria a 'recipe for trouble', cautions Israel

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Oct 2015 19:46

We needed a catchy phrase to capture the anti-Assad forces.

OBIT= Obama Backed Islamist terrorists is an apt description for FSA and Al-Nusra.
ISIS = is the other which has KSA, GCC and lite US backing.

Thanks UB.

And OBIT is short for obituary!!!

habal · Post by **habal** » 01 Oct 2015 19:55

here is conspiracy theory of what really happened at the haj stampede. Real death toll apparently is 7050.

BUSTED: SAUDI PRINCE CAUSED HAJJ STAMPEDE ON PURPOSE TO PROVIDE ISRAELI MOSSAD COVER WHILE THEY KIDNAPPED APPROXIMATELY 225 KEY PEOPLE FROM IRAN'S GOVERNMENT. THE PRINCE TERRIFIED THE CROWD WITH 150 MENACING ARMED GUARDS WHO BRANDISHED WEAPONS AND THREW CANISTERS OF HIGHLY IRRITATING AND POISONOUS CS GAS INTO THE CROWD AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE STAMPEDE

This report is based on testimony from an un named European intelligence agency (to provide protection of sources) and diplomats in Brussels, and has a lot of details I subsequently dredged up on my own.

According to al-Nahrain-net News Agency, a report from a European intelligence agency which has been corroborated by further testimony from European diplomatic sources in Brussels, indicates that the Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence agency, used the cover of the stampede to abduct a large number of high ranking officials in Iran's government.
The Al-Nahrain-net expose' on the stampede in Mecca, which is based on preliminary intelligence reports, indicates that Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies have collaborated to abduct IRGC commanders, diplomats and staff who were working in the office of Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The former Iranian ambassador to Lebanon, Ghazanfar Roknabadi, is also believed to have been kidnapped in the deadly stampede.

Mr. Roknabadi is a prominent member of the Supreme Leader's office staff and a figure who is well informed regarding the secrets of the Hizbullah missile armament by Tehran.

Ali Asghar Fouladgar, the head of institute for IRGC strategic studies is also identified as missing. Hussein Danesh , Fo'ad Mashghali , Ammar Miransari and Seyyed Hasan Hasani are additional members of the Iranian Supreme Leader's office who are also declared missing.

At this time, many EU diplomats have rejected the authenticity of this report, and there is rising speculation that Russians leaked this information to western intelligence agencies.

Al-Nahrain-net added that Iranian officials neither confirmed nor rejected the allegations regarding the abduction of Ghazanfar Roknabadi and other IRGC commanders during the hajj rituals. Israelis have been very eager to discover the secrets of Iranian missile industry.

An unnamed European intelligence agency has released this information, which has been corroborated by diplomats in Brussels. If this report turns out to be accurate, it will signify a high level of intelligence coordination between Riyadh and Tel Aviv for it would be almost impossible to carry out the abduction of the Iranian targets by the Mossad or western agencies without the Saudi's blessing and acquiescence.

In 2013 hundreds of face recognition cameras went in, which allowed the Mossad to know precisely when Iran's government was in the correct location to spring the attack. This particular hostile event stands as proof that all Muslims must now re-consider the Hajj until the house of Saud is abolished. I would not be caught dead at the Hajj for any reason because the Sauds cannot be trusted. The Hajj is now a proven GREAT WAY to be awarded a complimentary one way ticket to Tel Aviv and unlimited free room and board in Israel.

Pilgrims are issued an identification card and wristband containing biometric technology that must be carried at all times for quick proof of identity."
My comment: This system went in in 2013 and it only took the Sauds 2 years to use it as a weapon of war. The Mossad was given access to the identification system, and spent hours digging through bodies hunting out those they wanted to kidnap (if still alive.) And because everyone there had an identifying (biometric) wristband, and accompanying electronic smart card, there is no conceivable way they could have remained unidentified up until even now, days later, even if there were thousands dead unless the Sauds have something absolutely enormous to hide, such as the kidnapping of a huge portion of a nation's government.

http://www.nahrainnet.net/
http://82.221.129.208/ah1index.html

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Oct 2015 20:11

All of US, Israel, UK plans in the flush now with Russia now intervening! Wouldn't put it past the apostles of peace to now do another Ghanistan and arm the mujahids.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 20:56

well the cat is now among the pigeons - all out shia vs sunni war

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/ ... 1O20151001

Hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria to join a major ground offensive in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government, Lebanese sources said on Thursday, a further sign of the rapid internationalization of a civil war in which every major country in the region has a stake.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.678423

Hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria in the last 10 days and will soon join government forces and their Lebanese Hezbollah allies in a major ground offensive backed by Russian air strikes, two Lebanese sources told Reuters.

"The (Russian) air strikes will in the near future be accompanied by ground advances by the Syrian army and its allies," said one of the sources familiar with political and military developments in the conflict.

"It is possible that the coming land operations will be focused in the Idlib and Hama countryside," the source added.

The two sources said the operation would be aimed at recapturing territory lost by President Bashar Assad's government to rebels.
It points to an emerging military alliance between Russia and Assad's other main allies - Iran and Hezbollah - focused on recapturing areas of northwestern Syria that were seized by insurgents in rapid advances earlier this year.

"The vanguard of Iranian ground forces began arriving in Syria: soldiers and officers specifically to participate in this battle. They are not advisors ... we mean hundreds with equipment and weapons. They will be followed by more," the second source said. Iraqis would also take part in the operation, the source said

Thus far, direct Iranian military support for Assad has come mostly in the form of military advisors. Iran has also mobilized Shi'ite militia fighters, including Iraqis and some Afghans, to fight alongside Syrian government forces. Lebanon's Hezbollah, which is backed by Iran, has been fighting alongside the Syrian army since early in the conflict.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 21:08

rubbing some salt on the wounded...

http://ria.ru/world/20151001/1294658803.html

Foreign Ministry: Russian Federation will assess Iraq's request for help in dealing with the IG, if this is
17:02 01/10/2015 (updated: 19:24 01/10/2015) 20 42671 321 22

MOSCOW, October 1 - RIA Novosti. If the Iraqi government will turn to Russia for the operation of Russian Air Force against the radical group "Islamic state" in Iraq, Moscow assess the political and military feasibility of such measures, RIA Novosti said the director of the department on new challenges and threats Foreign Minister Ilya Rogachev.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 01 Oct 2015 21:15

Tectonic changes.

How does all this impact India? Boots in balauch?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 21:20

if you look at my list of rebel outfits above the FSA is the largest and mostly made up of army deserters. they are secular ideology.

today Rus fm sergei lavrov says it does not consider the FSA a terrorist group and expected them to be part of the political solution to Syria. I also read they plan to co-ordinate with the YPG which has suffered heavily at hands of ISIS and is locked in a life and death struggle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdW8DTLDbJU

rgosain · Post by **rgosain** » 01 Oct 2015 21:22

This is what a real nuclear flash point looks like, and makes Pakistan's periodic bouts of nuclear sabre rattling look pretty small beer. Presently in this theatre we have all of the P5 nuclear powers together with Israel, a proxy one Saudi Arabia armed with missiles supplied by China and warheads from Pakistan, and a threshold state, Iran. Where are the call for third part mediation.
The groups that have been hit the hardest by the Russians are those that were trained in Jordan in camps that were sponsored by the Gulf states and the West. Like his father before him who had to bear the ire of the PLO in the 1970's, it now looks like the boy king of Jordan may have to deal with a lot of enraged jihadis and the Russians who are likely to target any convoys from the Jordanian border

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 01 Oct 2015 21:25

That can happen only if Baloch freedom war is initiated followed by military support. But there are no indications of the same. If only the Russians had shown more determination in the Yugoslav war.

This is Shia-Sunni open war and will not end happily with only a stalemate in the end after killing many like the Iran-Iraq war.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 21:27

syria is not a big country...if the russians bring in by sea and deploy tochka , smerch and iskander, along with a bunch of MSTA 152mm SP regiments, they can pretty much swing and engage the entire front from a couple of missile launch areas.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 01 Oct 2015 21:29

Austin wrote:
Singha wrote:
Rus mod releases new video of night airstrikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=82&v=s_h8YISqJRQ
These more look like PGM be it LGB or Glonass

There is clip from Ukrainian TV claiming that Ruskie killed civilians

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Oct 2015 21:31

feelers are probably out to the FSA to stand aside and ceasefire while the smaller jihadi outfits are targeted, pass on useful intel etc in exchange for brokering a settlement between them and Assad once the country is more or less stabilized.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 01 Oct 2015 21:44

I don't think Syria can be stabilized under a minority Shia regime. It can only stabilize only when the western Shia-dominated part and the Sunni eastern part separate. Similar is the case with Iraq - Shia part, Sunni part, Kurdistan. You can't make people who hate each other to live together peacefully. The other option is a stalemate like Lebanon. But will the Shias want to live under a Sunni Syria, and the Sunnis live under Shia Iraq. I doubt it.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 01 Oct 2015 21:53

Singha wrote:rubbing some salt on the wounded...
http://ria.ru/world/20151001/1294658803.html
Foreign Ministry: Russian Federation will assess Iraq's request for help in dealing with the IG, if this is
17:02 01/10/2015 (updated: 19:24 01/10/2015) 20 42671 321 22
MOSCOW, October 1 - RIA Novosti. If the Iraqi government will turn to Russia for the operation of Russian Air Force against the radical group "Islamic state" in Iraq, Moscow assess the political and military feasibility of such measures, RIA Novosti said the director of the department on new challenges and threats Foreign Minister Ilya Rogachev.

Man! That is clearly to create pressure on ISIS, hain? Imagine if u r a US commander with air resources, sitting in Eyerak.

U know the realities of what the ISIS does to civilians.

The Russians are on the verge of being asked to come and do the job that u were supposed to have done, until ur Supreme Caliph-ul-DupleeCitus ordered you to sit on your hands.

What do you do? Your one chance is to make the Iraqi guvrmand happy by bombing the pakistan out of the ISIS. And of course you would be happy to do that.

Insteady, r u going to shoot at Russians trying to save the Iraqi people, in order to protect the ISIS sh1ts?

What stops you? BO? Does he dare come out and say: "I am firing this commander because he used US resources to attack the enemies of the USA, whom I have been protecting, being an enemy of the USA myself"?

That would be faaar worse than the court martial where a Ranger was kicked out for kicking the pakistan out of an Afghan rapist. I'd say that case was already borderline mutiny-trigger. Strange that we haven't seen the Mullah TSJones here discussing that case, hain?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 01 Oct 2015 22:06

Lavrov at his best:

Russia's airstrikes in Syria "do not go beyond ISIL (ISIS), al Nusra or other terrorist groups recognized by the United Nations Security Council or Russian law," Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Thursday.

Pushed to define "other terrorist groups," Lavrov said: "If it looks like a terrorist, if it acts like a terrorist, if it walks like a terrorist, if it fights like a terrorist, it's a terrorist, right?"

Lavrov was addressing reporters at the U.N. in New York Thursday, on the second day of airstrikes by Russian warplanes in Syria.

shravanp · Post by **shravanp** » 01 Oct 2015 22:48

Singha wrote:
Rus mod releases new video of night airstrikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=82&v=s_h8YISqJRQ

These more look like PGM be it LGB or Glonass[/quote]

There is clip from Ukrainian TV claiming that Ruskie killed civilians

[/quote]

From RT:

“As for media reports claiming that the civilian population is suffering, we are prepared for such information attacks. The first reports about civilian casualties emerged even before our planes got in the air,” he said.

http://www.rt.com/news/317188-putin-civ ... ies-syria/

Avarachan · Post by **Avarachan** » 01 Oct 2015 22:49

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/09/st ... ns-to.html

Russian author, historian and politician Nikolay Starikov explains what happened today[.]

"Islamic state is a can opener in the hands of the global elite, with which it was planning to destroy the world order, as it is.

You know, often when we talk about WWII, a question comes to mind, why did the English have to bring Hitler to power, if they were the strongest ones? Well, in order to be the strongest, you must destroy your competition. And Hitler was brought to power in order to destroy the USSR, which not only grew economically, but presented an alternative of a social order[.]

Today's Islamic State is a tool to prevent the growth of China, Russia, and Europe getting out of control.

In order to create this instrument of destroying the world order you must destroy statehood.

First the destruction of states is a standard path of the global banking elite, which I am writing about in my book "Power".

Second, how can you create this force, if you have states everywhere? You have the states of Iraq and Syria. You cannot create 100 thousand militants on the territory of Iraq. Therefore you have to get rid of the Iraqi state. Either it has to be completely absent as in Lybia, or be nominal, occupying two blocks in Baghdad. It is weakened and destroyed.

And here is Syria. It also has to be destroyed, but it doesn't surrender. This is where the hate towards Assad comes from. This is why they keep repeating, Assad must go - in order to destroy the state.

Instead they create a quasi-state structure, which they pump with money and weapons and sent it towards Afghanistan. By the way there is fighting going on right now for Kunduz, which is on the border with Tajikistahn. They are preparing a bridgehead for the invasion. Everything is going according to plan.

They have to finish off Assad.

100 thousand fled to Europe, and how many refugees are in the camps? A few million. If they cannot get to Europe, where will they go? You can hire them for cheap into your army, for example ISIS. People have no options, the infrastructure has been destroyed, there is nowhere to live, and here you are offered a salary!

This mess they want to send through Afghanistan to Central Asia. To destroy the Central Asian states. Which I and many others wrote about several years ago.

Further they will strike Russia and China.

Today several thousand Uighur militants are fighting for ISIS. This is the force that will be blowing up China.

You have to understand the logic of the Unites States. They gave birth to this instrument, but they need to let it grow.

They say "We are going to fight it". They create a coalition, and as a result of this battle ISIS spreads to a huge territory.

Here is a question, are they fighting them?

In Afghanistan they were fighting with drugs. As a result the drug production grew 42 times. So ISIS will grow 42 times too. They are not fighting themselves, and not letting anyone fight it.

What are American strikes on the positions of militants? Do we know who they are bombing? I hope they know who they are bombing. They could be bombing the Syrian army. And if anything, they will say: "Ooops, sorry". We said, we are sorry!

When they are there, ISIS can freely grow.

Americans lost the opportunity to bomb anyone they want on the Syrian territory. If they fly they can get shot down, [We can say,] "Why didn't you coordinate with us? You flew into the territory of the Syrian army and they shot down your plane. We would have told you the Syrian army is there[.]

Now [Western elites] will try to torpedo this. If someone starts to pound the bandits, [Western elites] are in a situation as if England and France were forced to destroy Hitler in 1938. Russia is forcing them to destroy their own project. This is the essence of it.

Today's approval of our Federation Council to use force abroad is simply a legal formality. It doesn't mean our troops will go there. They would love to suck us into a ground war, but we won't go for it. We will get money from the surrounding states. Syria will give us the soldiers. And everyone will be happy to get over with this ISIS. And Americans will be forced to repeat, yes, what a terrible organization.

We buried their project before it has entered a mature stage.

This is what's happening there today."