Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Sept 05, 2015

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RajeshA wrote:Nawaz has seen too many Indian films and thinks that his suit-boot would melt India's heart of stone!
Or read too many Pakistani textbooks thinking that subtle and not-so-subtle threats will force us to fold.

These are threats pure and simple..
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Pakistan giving 'independent soldier' status to terrorists: Shiv Sena

MUMBAI: Hitting out at Pakistan after four jawans were killed in Kashmir, Shiv Sena today said it has accorded "independent soldiers" status to terrorists for which India is paying a heavy price and rued there's a dearth of political will to carry out Myanmar-like strikes in PoK.

"Instead of saying that Pakistan is sponsoring terrorists, it would be better to say that these terrorists have been accorded the status of 'independent soldiers' by Pakistan," an editorial in Sena mouthpiece 'Saamana' said.

"The way our forces entered Myanmar to eliminate terrorists, we are capable of doing the same in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir as well," it said.

"Indian Air Force Chief (Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha) says the intent and decision (to strike at terror camps in PoK) will have to be taken by the political leadership. It is understood then that there is no dearth of willingness and capabilities, but there is less or no political will to do so," the Sena said.

"What bravery is it that we keep garlanding the coffins of martyred jawans? Enter Pakistan once and eliminate terrorism from its roots," the party said.

Slamming Pakistan, it said, "Those who we kill are given the status of martyrs by them and memorials are constructed."

"We are not fighting a battle with Pakistani soldiers, but with terrorists who have been trained by the neighbouring country. Sadly, these terrorists are outweighing us," it said.

The Sena rued that the country has to pay a heavy price while fighting with militants.

"While it is true that Indian soldiers have immense capabilities, we cannot ignore the fact that we pay a heavy price while fighting with them," it said.

What is the need of harping on the Indian Army's prowess If India is incapable of eliminating terrorism from its roots? it asked.

The recent attacks in Gurdaspur, Udhampur and now in Kupwara make it seem that we are unable to teach Pakistan a lesson. On the contrary we need to learn lessons, the Sena opined.

Four jawans lost their lives in a fierce gunbattle with militants during an operation launched in Haphruda forest in Handwara yesterday, following information about the presence of militants there.

One militant was killed in a separate encounter that broke out during an operation in Lolab area.

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krishna_krishna wrote:^^^^ How does is it matter or is related to this thread ?

Even Britain small compared to porkis in size has biggest embassy of all in dc. Size does matter but not in this case....
I am not sure what point you are trying to make. If you are comparing their land mass then your argument might be valid but naïve at the same time. By that reasoning Russia (may be Greenland) should have biggest embassies in each country. I was referring to economic and political clout of countries that determine their international standing.

Just for your benefit from wiki chacha
Great Britain: $3.115 trillion (Nominal; Sept 2015 USD), $2.548 trillion (PPP; Dec 2014 est.)[1]
Pakis: $257 billion (nominal, 2015)[1] [2]$928 billion (PPP, 2014)[3
now more comparable economy (look how pakis have inflated their numbers in PPP terms
Bangladesh: $572 billion (PPP) 33th; (2015 est.)[1] $209 billion (nominal
here is their embassy in DC right across the street from Pakis
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Embassy_of_B ... ngton,_D.C.
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^^^ I am not getting the point you are trying to make either. To equate country's embassy size in one country to political clout is idiotic to be mild. How does comparing them with others mean anything except that the particular country has invested more in real estate in a particular country nothing more nothing less.

Now porkistaniyat way of looking is to show very the host country how big and manly are, by having much bigger building is perception maintenance only in real sense which no one falls for (nowadays, past was different when porkis=desh)

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Raw Agents demanding freedom from al bakistan

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krishna_krishna wrote:^^^ I am not getting the point you are trying to make either. To equate country's embassy size in one country to political clout is idiotic to be mild. How does comparing them with others mean anything except that the particular country has invested more in real estate in a particular country nothing more nothing less.

Now porkistaniyat way of looking is to show very the host country how big and manly are, by having much bigger building is perception maintenance only in real sense which no one falls for (nowadays, past was different when porkis=desh)

Shubham Astu
Krishna-ji :

I agree with you that, ulitimately, "size does not matter", as it is the quality and competency of the personnel who reside in this physical structure (embassy) ( plus other factors of course)
But in politics/diplomacy as much as in other areas of life , perception equals realty. The Pakis are "great followers" of this philosophy. (suited, booted, better accent, great hospitality etc etc ). But if the "final product" -what you are selling - is "defective"- as in this case, all this showbaazi comes to naught. :mrgreen:
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Personality Cult Reaches A New High In Pakiland
Mosque named after ‘Gen Raheel Sharif’ in Rawalpindi
RAWALPINDI (Web Desk) – A group of Khokhar clan, who opposes the notorious land grabber Taji Khokhar of Rawalpindi, have announced to build a mosque after the name of Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif in Ghori Town area of the city.

The group has allocated two kanals of land to ‘Jamia Masjid Gen Raheel Sharif, Madrassa Jamia Darul Amn’ and have announced to construct the mosque at their own expenses.

According to media reports the locals headed by Safdar Khokhar, who also heads Tehreek-e-Nijat Qabza Mafia in the area, want to thank the army chief for his tremendous efforts to restore law and order situation in Pakistan.

Safdar Khokhar was quoted saying as “We have decided to name the mosque after the army chief because he is a national hero and working against corruption, land mafias and rogue elements across the country.”

He further requested the army chief to conduct a Karachi-like operation in Rawalpindi and other large cities of the country.
Can Raheel "afford to annoy" his "chain-smoking predecessor", who is reputed to have made millions and millions, and wants to "settle" for good in the Island Continent, to enjoy his loot. :mrgreen:
It is also pertinent to be mentioned here ‘Jamia Masjid Gen Raheel Sharif, Madrassa Jamia Darul Amn’ is said to be the first ever mosque named after a serving General of Pakistan army. However records confirm that a mosque was named as “Zia Masjid” after former military ruler General Zia-ul-Haq offered prayers in a mosque near Islamabad Highway in early 1980s.

Doubt, that the masjid would have been re-named; Zia still has many, many admirers, therefore, re-naming is risky :mrgreen:
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partha wrote:One more data point to show that Pakis are clueless and are closely following whatever Modi does. Remember a proposal to start micro finance bank like Mudra Bank announced by Modi? And then soon after Foxconn's announcement of $5B phone manufacturing unit, Paki IT minister announced that a Chinese company is ready to set up a phone manufacturing unit in Pakistanpedia.
Sometimes I wonder why the Pakistanis who take pride in 'not being Indian' take to the Indian way !
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The nefarious activities of the Intelligence Arm of the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Punjabi dominated Military the Inter Services Intelligence Directorate aka ISI aka ISID..

New Taliban leader Mullah Mansour 'is businessman protected by Pakistan' :

Telegraph, UK

The New York Times Article cited by the Telegraph:

Taliban’s New Leader Strengthens His Hold With Intrigue and Battlefield Victory
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X Posted from the “Balwaristan”thread

Pak Repression: Gilgit-Baltistan Residents Demand Balawaristan
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X Posted from the “Baluchistan: The Story of Another Pakistan Military Genocide” thread.

Pakistan's battle against Balochistan separatists sparks anger and suspicion
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“We can’t list them in the open market,” says the embassy’s Hotiana. “Due to their location, the properties can only be purchased by other diplomatic missions or an NGO.”
Well since Bakistan embassy has already moved to new location they can keep these two buildings for future embassy of Baluchistan and Sindhudesh.
Future Address of Baluchistan's embassy 2315 Massachusetts Avenue
Future address of Sindhudesh embassy 2210 R Street
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SBajwa wrote:
“We can’t list them in the open market,” says the embassy’s Hotiana. “Due to their location, the properties can only be purchased by other diplomatic missions or an NGO.”
Well since Bakistan embassy has already moved to new location they can keep these two buildings for future embassy of Baluchistan and Sindhudesh.
Future Address of Baluchistan's embassy 2315 Massachusetts Avenue
Future address of Sindhudesh embassy 2210 R Street
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Was this posted ?
India, Pakistan will inevitably return to talks, says Kasuri by Suhasini Haider (who else ?)
Significantly, Mr. Kasuri says one of the “near-war” situations came just after the Mumbai 26/11 attacks, when he was told by senior U.S. officials including the then presidential envoy Richard Holbrooke and Senator John McCain that India was planning “an airstrike on Muridke (Pakistani city believed to house LeT training camps).” “With no hesitation, I told them, this would mean war. If India launches an airstrike, the Pakistan Army would give a measured but equal response to an attack on Muridke, which India would respond to. It would take us up an escalatory ladder, and nobody could predict what it would lead to,” Mr. Kasuri said.

However, Mr. Kasuri’s contention was challenged by former Indian National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan. Speaking to The Hindu, Mr. Narayanan said, “Pakistan may have had such apprehensions, but far from preparing such a strike on Muridke, the government never even contemplated such a raid. We don’t believe in bombing people out of existence.” Mr. Narayanan added that India’s decision not to respond to the Mumbai attacks with a knee jerk response was its “finest hour.
Words fail me - how did we have this guy as NSA ? :shock:
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krishna_krishna wrote:^^^ I am not getting the point you are trying to make either. To equate country's embassy size in one country to political clout is idiotic to be mild. How does comparing them with others mean anything except that the particular country has invested more in real estate in a particular country nothing more nothing less.

Now porkistaniyat way of looking is to show very the host country how big and manly are, by having much bigger building is perception maintenance only in real sense which no one falls for (nowadays, past was different when porkis=desh)

Shubham Astu
Besides you not having enough manners to reply to post. I am totally at loss at what confuses you. Not debating with you any more
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srin wrote:
However, Mr. Kasuri’s contention was challenged by former Indian National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan. Speaking to The Hindu, Mr. Narayanan said, “Pakistan may have had such apprehensions, but far from preparing such a strike on Muridke, the government never even contemplated such a raid. We don’t believe in bombing people out of existence.” Mr. Narayanan added that India’s decision not to respond to the Mumbai attacks with a knee jerk response was its “finest hour.
Words fail me - how did we have this guy as NSA ? :shock:
Well, considering it is about a past event, we need to ask what narrative is best for India's current purposes:

a. India planned to bomb Muridke, but was deterred by the US (or by Pakistan's threat of war)
OR
b. Big-hearted India never contemplated bombing Muridke.

I can see some disadvantages if Pakistan believes (a.).
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A_Gupta wrote: Even if treachery was not her intent, the stupidity of Barkha Dutt is just mind-boggling.
(with apologies to Ian Fleming)

First time is stupi ... err ... naivety, second time is agenda pushing, third and subsequent times it has to be nothing but treason.
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234,000 ghost students 'enrolled' in Balochistan
Based on the above,the tall claims of education( and economic development also) for the Aam Abduls of Balochistan are just that -Bakwaas :mrgreen:
If the statistics for Balochistan schools ,( which hardly has less than 5% of the total population) are "manufactured" for corruption purposes, how can one rely on any statistics that both levels of Paki Govt (provincial and federal ) produce. :mrgreen:
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vdutta wrote:Raw Agents demanding freedom from al bakistan

The Mirchi is so palpable...the slimeballs were desperately trying to play up squatters in US protesting against Modi and India on the lines of Kashmir, Sikhs, Patels and it turned out that there was a bigger lot calling for Azadi from Pakistan :rotfl:

Of curse, as usual, there was none from the Indian media to cover this event...
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vayu tuvan wrote:
A_Gupta wrote: Even if treachery was not her intent, the stupidity of Barkha Dutt is just mind-boggling.
(with apologies to Ian Fleming)

First time is stupi ... err ... naivety, second time is agenda pushing, third and subsequent times it has to be nothing but treason.
Barkha Dutt is a rabid anti-hindu who is being used by her employers (NDTV) and other non-state actors. The disdain, hatred, and fear of unwashed idol worshipers need to be experienced to understand. Protestant "Christians" and Muslims both consider idol-worship as satan-worship. Hindus especially are singled out as not only Kuffers (or one who have not surrendered to Christ) but simply satanic. Sunday church sermons in Protestant (Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, etc) churches are full of reminders to convert the world to Jesus with specific reference to idol-worshiping countries as being the biggest challenges. Missionaries who have returned from India, Nepal, Thailand etc give testimony about feeling "spirits" when they are near temples. Once I took a group of church goers (being their boss) to an Indian restaurant and at the dinner table the murmur started that the Ganesha Murthi at the cashier desk meant a bad omen. One lady could not even finish her food. Muslims are better, they just want to kill the Kuffers. There may be a missionary agenda with Pranoy Roy and Suzzana Roy and their ilk who use Barkha Dutt as a tool to spread hatred of Hindus.
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NASA photo shows how the Indians have lit up the border with Pakistan to stop Pakistani terrorists



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Don't know where to post , this thread seem ok.
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WHY IS PAKISTAN’S ARMY CHIEF SO POPULAR?
http://warontherocks.com/2015/10/why-is ... o-popular/
Michael Kugelman is the senior associate for South Asia at the Woodrow Wilson International Center
n recent months, Pakistan’s media have gone overboard to lionize General Raheel Sharif. He’s been lauded for his heroism and, ironically, credited with strengthening democratic institutions. One prominent TV talk show host dedicated an entire show to discussing what he described as the public’s desire for an extension of Sharif’s term (which is scheduled to end next year).On social media, #ThankYouRaheelSharif has become a common hashtag in Pakistan — so popular that the satirical publication Khabaristan Times announced that it trended in Burkina Faso after soldiers tweeted it while staging a recent coup.
General Sharif’s face recently appeared on packages of men’s undergarments (brand name: “Captain Men’s Wear”).Sharif is seemingly the man of the hour, the hero of the day, and the flavor of the month all rolled into one. He was also Newsweek Pakistan’s Man of the Year last year.
For decades, Pakistani military leaders have been projected as saviors: messiah-like figures who swoop in to save the nation when in crisis, and to protect it when vulnerable — which is all the time.
Pervez Musharraf and Ashfaq Parvez Kayani were not widely admired figures when they stepped down. Still, as the columnist Cyril Almeida reminds in a recent op-ed, they were once hailed as heroes. . He was also quite popular abroad, and as I’ve written previously, retains many friends in Washington. Only during the last year of his term as army chief and president, when he suspended the Supreme Court chief justice and cracked down on the media, did he become truly unpopular. With a pro-democracy movement sweeping across Pakistani cities, Musharraf resigned as army chief in November 2007. He held parliamentary elections in February 2008, and resigned the presidency in August 2008 just as the new civilian government was preparing impeachment proceedings against him.Kayani, meanwhile, took over as army chief in November 2007 amid the pro-democracy campaign that ultimately ended Musharraf’s military rule, ushering in the February 2008 elections. With the public down on the military and a new civil administration in place, all against a backdrop of growing militant threats, Kayani scaled down the army’s role in politics and simultaneously took steps to raise military morale. He also initiated counter militancy offensives against the Pakistani Taliban in Swat and later South Waziristan. Only during the last few years of his term, from 2011 to 2013, did his star begin to fall. His reputation took a major hit in 2011, when Pakistanis were embarrassed by the U.S. unilateral raid to apprehend Osama Bin Laden. He also angered army officers and the broader public when, with the U.S.–Pakistan relationship in deep crisis in 2011 and 2012, he insisted on continuing to work with the Americans.
Of course, the real story is much more complicated than Sharif’s statements, actions, or public relations may suggest. The Zarb-e-Azb operation in North Waziristan has focused its crosshairs only on anti-state militants. The actual success of the mission is unclear, given that media have no access to the region. Other measures associated with Zarb-e-Azb — such as the introduction of anti-terror military courts and the resumption of capital punishment — have targeted only anti-state militants as well. Additionally, purportedly anti-terrorist crackdowns in Karachi seem more designed to weaken dominant political parties than to drive out militancy.In Pakistan, where key sources of information — television channels, school textbooks, mosque sermons, and old fashioned word of mouth — tend to amplify pro-military sentiment, this alternate picture is often ignored, contested, or dismissed as foreign conspiracy-mongering.Raheel Sharif is in a good place right now, and his popularity is unlikely to be punctured anytime soon — unless, perhaps, his term is extended. The fortunes of Musharraf and Kayani, as noted earlier, went south during their final months in power — and after they were granted extensions.Will Sharif get an extension?.In effect, Sharif’s popularity, whether manufactured or real, is strong — but by no means guaranteed to last
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They have this for-rent social media army that is active on facebook/twitter etc and trends positive news stories about the chief. Curiously, this is organized somewhat along the same lines as cheeni rent-a-crowd that their government uses to "shape" conversations.
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They have this for-rent social media army that is active on facebook/twitter etc and trends positive news stories about the chief. Curiously, this is organized somewhat along the same lines as cheeni rent-a-crowd that their government uses to "shape" conversations.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html
A source familiar with the talks said Pakistan has been asked to consider what are described as “brackets.” Pakistan would agree to restrict its nuclear program to weapons and delivery systems that are appropriate to its actual defense needs against India’s nuclear threat. Pakistan might agree not to deploy missiles capable of reaching beyond a certain range, for example.

In return for such an agreement, the source said, the United States might support an eventual waiver for Pakistan by the 48-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group, of which the United States is a member. At U.S. urging, that group agreed to exempt India from rules that banned nuclear trade with countries that evaded the Non-Proliferation Treaty. This so-called “civil nuclear agreement” allowed India partial entry into the club of nuclear powers
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http://www.dawn.com/news/1211363/china- ... in-karachi
China will build in Karachi four of eight submarines that it is selling to Pakistan.
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Anujan wrote:
China will build in Karachi four of eight submarines that it is selling to Pakistan.
I hope China is aware that a similar attempt to build submarines in Karachi, about a decade back, led to the death of 11 French submarine engineers.
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Jhujar wrote:WHY IS PAKISTAN’S ARMY CHIEF SO POPULAR?
http://warontherocks.com/2015/10/why-is ... o-popular/
Pervez Musharraf and Ashfaq Parvez Kayani were not widely admired figures when they stepped down. Still, as the columnist Cyril Almeida reminds in a recent op-ed, they were once hailed as heroes. .
But all Pakistani Army Chiefs met with the same fate, as far as I can remember whether it is Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Zia-ul-Haq, Aslam Beg, Jehangir Karamat etc.
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Pakistan Supreme Court has unfairly and cruelly awarded death penalty to the 21st century Ilm-ud-din, Mumtaz Qadri

http://tribune.com.pk/story/968851/sc-u ... rs-killer/
Qadri’s counsel Justice (retd) Mian Nazir Akhtar contended that something had happened just before Taseer was killed since none of the other elite force personnel present at the scene reacted to Qadri’s action. He added that punishing a blasphemer was a religious duty enjoined on everyone. {AoA!!}
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Is Ganja going to sign Nuclear deal with Obama on october 22 ? I was told yeasterday by a Paki who is working with me.
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Anujan wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html
A source familiar with the talks said Pakistan has been asked to consider what are described as “brackets.” Pakistan would agree to restrict its nuclear program to weapons and delivery systems that are appropriate to its actual defense needs against India’s nuclear threat. Pakistan might agree not to deploy missiles capable of reaching beyond a certain range, for example.

In return for such an agreement, the source said, the United States might support an eventual waiver for Pakistan by the 48-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group, of which the United States is a member. At U.S. urging, that group agreed to exempt India from rules that banned nuclear trade with countries that evaded the Non-Proliferation Treaty. This so-called “civil nuclear agreement” allowed India partial entry into the club of nuclear powers
Unkil being Unkil, I wont be surprised if Munna gets into NSG before we do. Just so that "==" is maintained.

As long as the nukes are pointed at heathen India.... Bakistan is a civilized country. The moment it is pointed anywhere west of Turkey .... Bakistan becomes a rogue country.
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jash_p wrote:Is Ganja going to sign Nuclear deal with Obama on october 22 ? I was told yeasterday by a Paki who is working with me.
Yeah its true
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Very very Interesting and Breathtaking

Indo-Pak sporting ties: It’s just not cricket

Mr Sartaj Aziz’s pronouncement on cricketing ties between Pakistan and India tells us that it is not always useful to mix politics with sport. In 1980 Pakistan Boycotted the Olympic Games held in Moscow – Mixing Politics with Sports

The adviser to the prime minister on foreign affairs and national security says there can be no cricket between the two countries under the current circumstances.

His words are a troubling sign of just how long it could take for the two countries to prepare the ground for even a tentative exchange. And if anyone in recent times had high hopes of cricket playing its customary and often celebrated role of bridging the gap, these have been effectively dashed by those who make or implement national policies in New Delhi and Islamabad.

This is a tangle beyond the reach of the game to sort out, the recent flurry of statements predicting no-play for an unforeseen period of time between the two sides.

If anything, it appears that both sides are using cricket as a metaphor to convey just how determined they are to stay at a distance from and hostile to one another.

Although there were long years of no matches between the two sides, Pakistan and India have ‘clashed’ on the cricket ground in the worst of times. In the period beginning the late 1970s, the two countries found ways to play with each other even when some patriots would rather have them fight it out on the borders.

Thus, the inability of Delhi and Islamabad — represented as they are by the BCCI and PCB — to play today demonstrates just how bad the relationship is.

It would be pointless to wish for cricket to be seen as an independent entity that can chart its own course away from the trajectory of Pakistan-India ties that is determined by the growing unease between the two neighbours at the political level.

It is unfortunate how politics affects sporting ties. But that is the way it is. As Mr Aziz remarked, some thawing at the political level is absolutely necessary before cricket can take over.

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An Opinion.

Civil Nuclear deal between Pakistan and the US? A non-starter
Any nuclear deal between Pakistan and US will also be bound by Islamabad’s single-minded quest for parity with India in all respects.
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In Dubai, the Pakistani s are a morose lot. somehave worked in firms for more than 15 yrs, with the idea that the accrued benefits of being in one job for too long, will help them, buy land in Peshawar and karachi and they can settle for good. those same guys are taking loan from the same company and buying land now itself. they are not certain that the jobs will be there for long and when they leave the companies will be bankrupt to pay them dues?

Indians donot think the same ways...they are willing to help the emiratis..stand up with them in times of trouble...but even our indian muslims are not privy to some rumours....

it seems daesh is entering the universities in gcc in a big way. a sterilization of ummah... a triple distillation.. is progressing.
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There is a lot of whining and crying from Pakistanis, after the talks with India were forestalled. The agony of not talking to India is apparent " ever since 71 talks btw India and pakistan became bilateral, and India reserves the right to talk to us or wont", " we tried talking and we are sincere at it but India seems to be divergent"

the paki folks are crying to talk to us. We have checkmated them to play in an acute angle, where their space of ooportunity is less and if they digress from an angle, their actions are in full public view"

but pakis as who they are, " defecient in startegic wisdom " can attempt to overstep. and thats where big follies happen.

Its about time, we made clear to them, that next 26/11 around, the Karachi harbour will be sedimented...from its 15 mts to 5 mts.
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jash_p wrote:Is Ganja going to sign Nuclear deal with Obama on october 22 ? I was told yeasterday by a Paki who is working with me.
Yeap, also deliver Crisp dosais on Indian involvement in creating trouble in Porkistan..
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jash_p wrote:
Yeap, also deliver Crisp dosais on Indian involvement in creating trouble in Porkistan..

The Dosai just has links to this and BENIS Thread hence all ur names are in it. start the Dhoti Shiver(or dance)
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Actor Dilip Kumar intervened to defuse Kargil crisis: Kasuri
Jawed Naqvi


Not credible for two reasons:
1. Source of information (Jawed Naqvi) suspect; why is this information coming out now and not earlier :roll:
2. Blatant attempt by an Ex Paki FM to drum up sales of his new book /and stay in the limelight/bask in glory/ act as broker ("services available")
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