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Blasts kill scores at peace rally in Turkey in sign of worsening instability
Two bomb blasts ripped through crowds at a rally of peace activists in the Turkish capital Saturday, killing scores, in a reminder of the growing conflicts Turkey faces both at home and across the border in war-torn Syria.

The explosions in Ankara, which occurred just minutes and yards apart, killed 86 people and injured 186 more as they gathered to call for an end to the violence that has flared between Turkish security forces and Kurdish separatists in recent months.
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Saturday there were “strong indications” the attack was carried out by suicide bombers, although there was no immediate claim of responsibility. He said the target was Turkish unity, democracy and stability.

Early indicators would point to ISIS as the culprit,” said Soner Cagaptay, director of the Turkish research program at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. ISIS is a common acronym for the Islamic State.

Either way, “this could well be Turkey’s 9/11 :eek: ,” Cagaptay said. “This is simply the worst terror attack in Turkish history.”
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Drowning is better.

Thx.
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US starts to pull Patriot missiles from Turkey at critical time Hurriyet Daily- Oct09,2015
The U.S. has started to pull its Patriot missiles stationed in Turkey, despite a recent appeal from Ankara to its NATO allies to keep the air and missile defense units at a delicate time on the border with Syria.

Patriot missiles were initially deployed at the Gaziantep 5th Armored Brigade Command in southeastern Turkey after the country appealed to its NATO allies to guard against rockets from Syria.

On Aug. 15, German Federal Ministry of Defense announced that it would end its contribution to the anti-missile mission in Turkey.

The announcement was followed by a statement from the U.S. on Aug. 16 saying it had informed the Turkish government that the mission, due to end in October, would not be renewed.

The U.S.’s withdrawal of the anti-missile systems started as the Patriots were brought to the Port of İskenderun awaiting ships that would return them to U.S. soil.

The pull out was initiated despite a recent appeal by Turkey to its NATO allies on Oct. 8, days after Russian jets violated Turkey’s airspace near Syria.

The move raised questions about NATO’s strategy in Turkey, as it contradicted with the statements of NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg that the alliance was prepared to send ground forces to defend its member state.
Four terror groups may be behind Ankara attack: Turkish PM - Hurriyet Daily- Oct10,2015
“The organizations that possess such a capacity are obvious,” the Prime Minister said during a press meeting in Ankara in the evening.

The prime minister named these organizations as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), along with two “leftist” organizations, namely, the Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party-Front (DHKP-C) and the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party (MLKP).

Although the identity of the culprits remains unknown, Davutoğlu said there are "very strong signs" the Ankara blasts were carried out by two suicide bombers.
Davutoğlu said the necessary would be done against whoever carried out "this treacherous massacre," branding the perpetrators "enemies of humanity."
"A terrorist is a terrorist. Whoever carried out an act of terror has committed a crime against humanity," he said.

"We are encountering one of the most painful acts of terrorism in our republic's history," he added.
The government says it has imposed a temporary news blackout following the two blasts.

A government spokesman said the blackout covered images showing the moment of the blast, gruesome or bloody images or "images that create a feeling of panic."

He warned media organizations they could face a "full blackout" if they did not comply.
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Turkey's stand within NATO and the Sunni block talked about earlier seems to be a bit shaky.

France renews offer for Turkey’s multibillion-dollar missile defense program - Hurriyet Daily - Oct10,2015
Turkey is nearing a final decision on the country to build its national missile defense system, as France challenges China with a renewed offer, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has said, referring to Eurosam, the joint French-Italian offer.

“We are getting close to finalizing it,” Erdoğan told journalists responding to a question on the multibillion-dollar project while returning to Turkey from a trip to the Japanese capital of Tokyo.

“Chinese President [Xi Jinping] will be in Turkey in November as part of the G-20 [annual meeting],” Erdoğan said.
Ankara selected a Chinese company in September 2013 to build the air defense architecture, but immediately came under heavy pressure from its Western allies for the decision, it also opened parallel negotiations this summer with a European contender in the multibillion-dollar competition.

Contract negotiations with the Chinese manufacturer, China Precision Machinery Import Export Corp. (CPMIEC), are also in progress, but Erdoğan said earlier that talks had also been opened with Eurosam.

Following an assessment by Turkey’s top defense procurement agency, the Defense Industry Executive Committee selected CPMIEC as the best bidder and Eurosam as the second.
Meanwhile, Turkey is continuing talks with NATO and its bilateral partners to enhance its defense capabilities, Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Tanju Bilgiç said Oct. 9, noting the discussions include Patriot missiles.

The U.S. is set to withdraw its Patriot missiles from the southeastern province of Gaziantep, while Germany’s batteries in the southern province of Kahramanmaraş will be removed on Oct. 15, the spokesperson said.
US defense equipment transfer to Turkey still on hold amid discord on regional issues
Transfer of four separate defense system equipment Turkey demands from the United States is still pending, amid different approaches between the two NATO allies towards regional issues, particularly Syria.

Ankara has thus far not been able to get permission for the transfer of four defense system equipment it has long demanded from the U.S. and which it sees as critical for Turkey’s national security. The U.S. and Turkey’s different perspectives on issues in the Middle East are to blame, particularly Syria.
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Hmmmm funny I thought turkey was buying patriots after americans arm twisted them away from the HQ-9. Anyway turkey is not trusted within NATO since erdogan came to power. It would be funny if china offered HQ-9 and then parked its ships in med to help Russia and Syria.
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Ombaba was claiming on CNN that Mr. Putin was in the fight for his client Assad only with Eyeran on it's side.
The rest of the "International community" is firmly behind murica and it's allies. Sounded exactly like Indian psuedos.
Switched channel.
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I totally agree with this analysis. Nothing to bold or highlight. Every sentence is on dot.
Putin’s “Endgame” in Syria - Oct09,2015
Russia doesn’t want to fight a war with Turkey, so Russian generals devised a simple, but effective plan to discourage Turkey from taking any action that could lead to a clash between the two nations.

Last week, Russian warplanes intruded into Turkish airspace twice. Both incidents caused consternation in Ankara and send Turkish leaders into a furor. On both occasions, officials in Moscow politely apologized for the incursions claiming they were unintentional (“navigational errors”) and that they would try to avoid similar intrusions in the future.

Then there was a third incident, a more serious incident, that was not a mistake. It was clearly intended to send a message to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Here’s a short summary of what happened from an article at the World Socialist Web Site:

“Turkish officials claimed a third incident on Monday, when an unidentified MiG-29 fighter jet locked its radar for four and a half minutes on eight Turkish F-16 jets that were on patrol on their side of the border, in apparent preparation to open fire.” (“US, NATO step up threats to Russia over Syria“, World Socialist Web Site)

This was no mistake. The only time a fighter pilot adopts these protocols is when he plans to take down an enemy plane. This was a message, and while it might have been over-the-heads of the politicians and the media but, I assure you, every general in the Turkish High-Command knows what’s it means. This is a wake-up call. Moscow is indicating that there’s a new sheriff in town and that Turkey had better behave itself or there’s going to be trouble. There’s not going to be any US-Turkey no-fly zone over North Syria, there’s not going to be any aerial attacks on Syrian sites from the Turkish side of the border, and there certainly is not going to be any ground invasion of Turkish troops into Syria. The Russian Aerospace Defence Forces now control the skies over Syria and they are determined to defend Syria’s sovereign borders. That’s the message. Period.

This is a good example of how “preemption” can actually prevent conflicts rather than starting them. By firing a shot over Turkey’s bow, Moscow has dampened Erdogan’s plan to annex part of N. Syria and declare it a “safe zone”. Turkey will have to scrap that plan now realizing that any attempt to seize-and-hold Syrian territory will trigger a swift and powerful Russian retaliation. Seen in this light, Russia’s incursion looks like an extremely effective way to prevent a broader war by simply telegraphing to potential adversaries what they can and can’t do. Simply put: Putin has rewritten the rules of the game in Syria and Erdogan had better comply or else. Here’s more on Turkey from Patrick Cockburn in The Independent:

“A Turkish ground invasion into Syria, though still a possibility, would now be riskier with Russian aircraft operating in areas where Turkey would be most likely to launch an incursion.

The danger for the Turks is that they now have two Kurdish quasi-states, one in Syria and one in Iraq, immediately to the south. Worse, the Syrian-Kurdish one…is run by the Democratic Union Party (PYD) which is effectively the Syrian branch of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) which has been fighting the Turkish state since 1984. Any insurgency by the PKK in Kurdish areas in south-east Turkey in future will be strengthened by the fact that the PKK has a de facto state of its own.

It appears that Turkey’s four-year attempt to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad has failed. It is unclear what Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan can do about this since support from Nato is at this stage purely rhetorical. As for Turkey’s relations with Russia, Mr Erdogan says that any attack on Turkey is an attack on Nato and that “if Russia loses a friend like Turkey with whom it has co-operated on many issues, it will lose a lot.” But in Syria, at least, it appears that it is Turkey that is the loser.” (“Russia in Syria: Russian Radar Locks on to Turkish Fighter Jets“, The Unz Review)

Poor Erdogan. He rolled the dice and came up snake-eyes. He figured he could expand his would-be Ottoman Empire into Northern Syria, and now his dream is in a shambles. Should he deploy his warplanes to N Syria and openly challenge the Russian airforce? No, he’s not that foolish. He’s going to stay on his side of the border, stomp his feet, and lash out at “evil Putin”, but at the end of the day, he’ll do nothing.

And Washington’s not going to do anything either. Yes, Hillary and McCain have been calling for a no-fly zone over Syria, but that’s not going to happen. Putin won’t allow it and neither will the Security Council. And, on what pretext anyway? Is Obama really going to request a no-fly zone on the basis that Putin is killing “moderate” terrorists along with the “extreme” terrorists? That’s not a very compelling argument, in fact, even the American people are having a hard time swallowing that one. If Obama wants something from Putin, he’s going to have sit-down at a bargaining table and hash out a deal. So far, he has refused to do that, because he still thinks regime change is within his grasp. There are signs of this everywhere like this article in Turkey’s Today’s Zaman titled “İncirlik base to increase capacity by 2,250 to accommodate new personnel”:

“A tent city within İncirlik has been undergoing reconstruction for modern prefabricated houses, which will host 2,250 US military personnel, the Doğan news agency reported on Friday. During the Gulf War of 1991, a tent city was established to accommodate military personnel serving with Operation Provide Comfort (OPC) and was shut down with the end of the OPC.

On Aug. 20, work began to transform the site of the tent city into a new area named “Patriot Town.” After construction is completed, the İncirlik base will have the largest capacity among the US bases in Europe…

The expansion of the İncirlik base’s capacity comes at a time when Russia has launched the biggest intervention in the Middle East in decades….Moscow’s intervention means the conflict in Syria has been transformed from a proxy war.. into an international conflict in which the world’s main military powers… are directly involved in fighting.” (“İncirlik base to increase capacity by 2,250 to accommodate new personnel“, Today’s Zaman)

This article smacks of US ambitions in the Middle East. As readers can plainly see, Washington is gearing up for another war just like it did in 1991. And the US air war is going to be launched from “Patriot Town” at Incirlik just like we’ve been predicting since July when the deal was finalized. Here’s more background from an article at Hurriyet:

“U.S. Air Force Central Command has started deploying search and rescue helicopters and airmen at Turkey’s southeastern Diyarbakır Air Base in order to help with recovery operations in neighboring Iraq and Syria, it has announced….

NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander in Europe and the commander of U.S. European Command, Gen. Phillip Breedlove, has said the mission will be temporary.

“We will be guests of the government of Turkey at Diyarbakir Air Base. There are no plans for a permanent U.S. presence at this location … This marks yet another successful cooperative effort between the Turkish and U.S. militaries,” Breedlove said.” (“US deploys recovery aircraft in Turkey’s southeast“, Hurriyet)



“US Search and rescue helicopters” just a couple miles from Turkey’s southeastern border?

Yep. In other words, if an F-16 is shot down somewhere over Syria while trying to impose an illegal no-fly zone, then– Presto– the search and rescue helicopters are just 20 minutes away.

How convenient.

So you can see that– even though Putin has thrown a wrench in the works– the Obama team is still moving ahead with its “Topple Assad” plan. Nothing has changed, the Russian intervention just makes the future much more uncertain which is why frustrated geopolitical strategists, like Zbigniew Brzezinski, have begun to pop-up in the op-ed pages of leading newspapers blasting Putin for sabotaging their plans for regional hegemony. It’s worth noting that Brzezinski is the spiritual godfather of Islamic extremism, the man who figured out how religious nutcases could be used to foment hysteria and advance US geopolitical objectives around the world. Thus, it’s only natural that Brzezinski would want to offer his advice now in a desperate effort to avoid a legacy of failure and disgrace. Check out this clip from Politico:

“The United States should threaten to retaliate if Russia does not stop attacking U.S. assets in Syria, former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in a Financial Times op-ed published Sunday, urging “strategic boldness,” with American credibility in the Middle East and the region itself at stake….And if Russia continues to pursue non-ISIL targets, the U.S. should retaliate, he added.

“In these rapidly unfolding circumstances the U.S. has only one real option if it is to protect its wider stakes in the region: to convey to Moscow the demand that it cease and desist from military actions that directly affect American assets,” he said.” (“Brzezinski: Obama should retaliate if Russia doesn’t stop attacking U.S. assets“, Politico)

The people who Brzezinski breezily refers to as “American assets” in Syria are terrorists. It’s that simple. Putin doesn’t distinguish between the “moderate” terrorists and the “radical” terrorists, the good terrorists and the bad terrorists. It’s a joke. They’re all in the same pool and they’re all going to meet the same fate. They all have to be rooted out, apprehended or killed. End of story.

By tweaking the war on terror narrative in a way that supports some, but condemns others, the Obama administration has backed themselves into an ideological cul de sac from which there is no way out. What they are doing is wrong and they know it is wrong. And that’s why it’s going to be so difficult to make the case for war. In a recent “must see” interview, Putin called out Obama on this very point. Here’s what he said:

“President Obama frequently mentions the threat of ISIS. Well, who on earth armed them? And who created the political climate that facilitated the current situation? Who delivered arms to the area? Do you really not know who is fighting in Syria? They’re mercenaries mostly. They are paid money. Mercenaries work for whatever side pays more. We even know how much they are paid. We know they fight for awhile and then see that someone else pays a little more, so they go there…..

The US says “We must support the civilized, democratic opposition in Syria”. So they support them, arm them, and then they join ISIS. Is it impossible for the US to think one step ahead? We do not support this kind of policy at all. We think it’s wrong.” (Putin explains who started ISIS, you tube, 1:38 to 4:03)

See? Everyone knows what’s going on. Barack Obama is not going to initiate a confrontation with Russia to defend a fundamentally immoral CIA program that has gone south. He will, however, do what the US always does when dealing with an adversary that can actually defend itself. He’s going to hector, harass, threaten, demean, demonize, ridicule, and bully. He might launch another attack on the ruble, or fiddle with oil prices or impose more economic sanctions. But he’s not going to start a war with Russia, that’s just not going to happen.

But don’t give up hope just yet, after all, there is a silver lining to this fiasco, and all of the main players know exactly what it is.

It’s called Geneva. Geneva is the endgame.

Geneva is the UN-backed road map for ending the war in Syria. Its provisions allow for the “establishment of a transitional governing body”, the “participation of all groups… in a meaningful national dialogue,” and “free and fair multi-party elections.”

The treaty is straightforward and uncontroversial. The one sticking point, is whether Assad will be allowed to participate in the transitional government or not.

Putin says “Yes”. Obama says “No”.

Putin is going to win this battle. Eventually, the administration will cave in and withdraw their demand that Assad step down. Their plans for regime change through the use of jihadi-proxies will have failed, and Putin will have moved the Middle East one step closer to a lasting peace and genuine security.

That’s the silver lining and that’s how the war in Syria will end.

Bravo, Putin.
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Bheeshma wrote:Hmmmm funny I thought turkey was buying patriots after americans arm twisted them away from the HQ-9. Anyway turkey is not trusted within NATO since erdogan came to power. It would be funny if china offered HQ-9 and then parked its ships in med to help Russia and Syria.
Once ISIS becomes ISI, it will obviously try to become ISIT, and then American planes will also have to try and bomb them inside Turkey. Patriot mijjiles would be inconvenient then.
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These Fearless Sikhs Have Set Up A 'Langar' In The ISIS Territory Of Syria To Feed Refugees
Large-hearted Sikhs have taken their traditional community kitchen to one of the most dangerous places on earth today – Syria. Giving a twist to the concept of langar, a group of Punjabi NRIs has collaborated with locals to provide fresh bread to nearly 14,000 refugees daily in the strife-torn region for several months now. Langar Aid, an extension of UK-based NGO Khalsa Aid, is located in the Pesh Harbour area, about 35km from the Kurdish city of Duhok and 10km from the Syrian border. Almost 70 percent of the members of Langar Aid have Punjabi roots, besides some European volunteers as well.
On the other side of Syria, on the Lebanon-Syrian border, the organization is helping refugees by running a school for 5,000 local children. "The idea is to take the langar outside the walls of the gurdwara and share food with people who need it the most," added Hothi.
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From Al Jazeera:
Syrian government forces have captured a village from rebels in the central province of Hama as part of a ground operation backed by Russian air support. Government forces seized Atshan village on Saturday from opposition fighters, state television and the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said. The Observatory reported heavy fighting around Atshan as Syrian government forces sought to push northwest and take a neighbouring hilltop.
With support from Russian air strikes, they appear to be targeting the town of Khan Sheikhun, just across the provincial border in Idlib and on a highway connecting Aleppo and Damascus, the AFP news agency reported. The road is cut by rebel forces in several places north of Khan Sheikhun. Hama province has been a key target for Russian air strikes that began on September 30, along with parts of the neighbouring provinces of Latakia and Idlib.
As rebels groups in Hama tried to fend off the government advance, their comrades in Aleppo province were locked in battle with Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group, which has made gains in the region. The Russian campaign has prompted concern among US officials who believe that rebel terrorist rapist groups allied to Washington are being targeted. Moscow has insisted it is bombing ISIL fighters and other "terrorist groups", but sources on the ground have told Al Jazeera the raids were taking place in areas with little ISIL presence.
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Bheeshma wrote:Hmmmm funny I thought turkey was buying patriots after americans arm twisted them away from the HQ-9. Anyway turkey is not trusted within NATO since erdogan came to power. It would be funny if china offered HQ-9 and then parked its ships in med to help Russia and Syria.
China’s Warships On Route To Join Russia In Syria - Oct 09, 2015
Chinese warships are on their way to Syria, according to both Russian and Chinese military sources. There have been also numerous reports of China’s deployment of its carrier-based fighter aircraft Shenyang J-15 in Syria.

Several reports have also indicated that a large number of Chinese military advisers have already joined Russia’s personnel in the Assad regime’s stronghold Latakia province.

“It is known that China has joined our military operation in Syria,” Igor Morozov, a member of the Russian Federation Committee on International Affairs told Russia’s daily Pravda. “The Chinese cruiser has already entered the Mediterranean, followed by its aircraft carrier.”
“The Chinese will be arriving in the coming weeks,” a Syrian army official told The Sleuth Journal. “The Chinese ship has crossed the Suez Canal in Egypt and is currently in the Mediterranean Sea.”
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If china does indeed help Russia in syria. What is the quid pro quo? Will china ask for help in SCS? Will it mean India-US-Japan-Aus against Rus-china in SCS.
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Why are we concerned about SCS? Also, can't imagine India and Russia on opposite sides.
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Interesting comment in "war is boring", as I comment in SU-30 thread Russia is looking at this as a marketing opportunity or it's military wares. That may also explain the recnt CM launches from affordable and small vessels
This certainly seems odd from a Western perspective, but it’s not exactly a groundbreaking new capability that the Russians are demonstrating. Fast-attack boats, corvettes and frigates have mounted anti-ship cruise missiles for 60 years, all the Russians did was swap them for land-attack missiles. This plays into the interpretation that the missiles were largely a marketing stunt, aimed at demonstrating capabilities to potential export customers who won’t be in the market for larger surface combatants any time soon.
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Looks like today was an eventful day in Syria.

No major news site is reporting the shooting down of Russian plane by Turkey. Looks similar to Russian mijjiles falling in Iran propagandu some are lending credence to.

Russian Air Force destroys 29 ISIS camps in Syria in 24 hours
“Our aviation group over the past day has destroyed two militant command centers, 29 field camps, 23 fortified facilities and several troop positions with military hardware,” ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Saturday.
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Iraqis catch Obama with hands in smelly ISIS porky jar.

Iraqis expose USA arming ISIS through regular, calibrated air drops.

OBAMA CAUGHT RED HANDED --Iraqis discover US weapons airdrop for ISIS
Iraqi residents have once again accused the US government of supplying ISIS jihadists with food and weapons in a viral video posted online this week.

The video, which features a group of men who appear to be soldiers, shows both supply crates and parachutes alleged to belong to the Unites States military.

“Look, film this too. These are American parachutes,” an Arabic-speaking man says in a translation acquired by Infowars. “We are inside the Baiji oil field. Is there anyone that doesn’t see them? You all see them!”

The unknown man goes on to claim that both food and weapons were supplied to ISIS fighters during their time in the area.

“These are American parachutes that the Americans sent to IS when they were here in Baiji,” he states. “With them they sent weapons and food. So that no one can say that we are lying, film this so you will see…”

According to Guardian contributor Hayder al-Khoei, who posted the footage to Twitter Thursday, “Vids like this & others of helos flying above Hashd/ISF positions towards ISIS-held areas” often reinforce the popular “narrative that US supports ISIS in Iraq.”
http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-20 ... drop-video
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John McCain insists multiple times that he knows Syrian rebels 'intimately' as he is in contact with 'all the time' - Sept 16, 2015


Two weeks later (Sept 30, 2015), he sings this rudali song from the floor of the house:
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Not directly related to Syria but gives a background into Putin's thinking of the global situation. But meanwhile, BBC reporter gets his ass handed to him. Facial expression of BBC reporter is priceless :mrgreen:
Video uploaded Oct 03, 2015
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SYMBOLIC:

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/10/1 ... rsian-Gulf
USA withdraws Aircraft Carrier from Persian Gulf

For the first time since 2007, the US Navy has now no aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf, according to NBC News.

The warship was withdrawn from the Persian Gulf on Thursday, a day after Russia fired 26 long-range cruise missiles from its Caspian Flotilla against terrorists in Syria
So the salvo of 26 Kalibrs from the Caspian Sea was a message good enough for USA to pull the aircraft carrier out of Persian Gulf just next day.

IOW USA has ignored Brezinzski's gratuitous advice.
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possible false flag attacks by IS in the offing:
Russian General Staff: ISIS might use mustard gas against Syrian army..

A source at the Russian General Staff warned that ISIS might use mustard gas against the Syrian Army, explaining that intercepted communications between ISIS terrorists following Russian airstrikes on their sites mentioned an urgent transportation of special munitions to the confrontation line with the Syrian government’s forces.

The communications also mentioned “surprises” and talked about hand grenades that contain toxic chemicals chemical, according to the source.

The source added that gunmen talked about the need to stop the progress of the government’s forces and establish a “chemical pollution barrier” for personnel and vehicles, asserting that this information is very grave because reports dating to around a month ago indicate that terrorists have reserves of mustard gas.

The source warned that if ISIS employs chemical weapons, the anti-Syria propaganda will try to blame the Syrian Army in the same way it did in the past when terrorists employed chemical weapons in Syria.
http://sana.sy/en/?p=57210

meanwhile USA doing what it does best in SYria.

Destroying everything except ISIS, which includes grain silos, oil and power infrastructure, manufacturing facilities but never ISIS.

U.S.-led air bombings destroy power stations in Syria's Aleppo: state TV

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015- ... 701579.htm
DAMASCUS, Oct. 10 (Xinhua) -- The U.S.-led air bombings destroyed two electricity stations in Syria's northern city of Aleppo on Saturday, causing a major blackout, said the Syrian state-run TV.

Two U.S. warplanes bombed the electricity stations in the residential Al-Rudwaniyeh district in eastern Aleppo, said the TV.

"Two U.S. F-16 violated the Syrian airspace and targeted the infra-structure in the city in a flagrant violation to the international law," the TV said, citing a military source.
Shock and Awe:

Russian Cruise Missile Strike on ISIL Caught US Flat-Footed
Fighting farmers and bombing hospitals doesn't tune one up for a major bout with one of the big boys! Another surprise for the US Pentagram. Reminds me of the surprise the Russians gave the Wehrmacht back in "41" with the T-34. Wonder what else they have up their sleeve?

The effective range of the Russian cruise missiles came as the biggest surprise as the 1,500 kilometers they covered before hitting their targets is at stark variance with their declared range of just 300 kilometers,” the BBC quoted Russian military expert Andrei Soyustov.
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151010/ ... ction.html
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^^ what stupid BBC report the declared range of Kalbir was known for few years and its 2600 km , The export model Klub-M is restricted under MTCR 300 km. They should read their own UK publication JANES for a change
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Satya_anveshi wrote:Not directly related to Syria but gives a background into Putin's thinking of the global situation. But meanwhile, BBC reporter gets his ass handed to him. Facial expression of BBC reporter is priceless :mrgreen:
Video uploaded Oct 03, 2015
He keeps saying to the BBC Reporter "Do you have common sense" :lol:

I recollect after the press conference , the BBC reporter when asked by anchor about the Press Conf mentioned like " BBC Gave a Chance to Putin for Peace in this press conf but Putin Rejected it" :((
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Recently used in Syria RBK-500 SPBE-D cluster bomb dispensers , video shows how it works

https://youtu.be/xyKPqPAv224
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Bheeshma wrote:If china does indeed help Russia in syria.
Post 2011 intervention in Libya , when US/NATO fooled the security council in asking for just a NFZ over Libya for safety and then used the approval it got from security council to launch a ground attack on Libya while lead to capture and brutal killing of Gaddafi none of which was part of UN SC mandate. China and Russia decided they would jointly work in UNSC and veto any proposal that would be used as pretext for ground operation.

Since then you will see many West proposal be it on Libya or Syria or other has been jointly vetoed by Russia and China , no abstaining at all just veto.
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Here is PM Medvedev in interview to London Times on Libya issue

https://www.rt.com/politics/official-wo ... syria-364/
Q: You were president at the time of the Libyan intervention and the diplomatic proceedings that went before the Libyan intervention. Is that experience actually now influencing Russia’s position on Syria? Did you feel that you were somehow betrayed over the Libya scenario and that you don't want to see a similar situation in Syria?

A: Of course, this is influencing our position. In fact, when the situation with Syria started, I said from the very beginning that we would adjust our approach because of what happened with Libya. When the resolution on Libya was adopted, we thought our countries would hold consultations and talks and at the same time we would send a serious signal to the Libyan leader. But unfortunately it ended up the way it did. They kept telling us there would be no military operation, no intervention, but eventually they started a full-blown war that claimed many lives. And most importantly, I think it is a bad way to determine a country’s future. We all share democratic values, but imposed democracy usually does not work. Democracy must grow from inside. Only then does it enjoy popular support. So, what happened with Libya has definitely affected my position and continues influencing Russia’s position on the Syrian conflict.

The difference between Russia and Britain on this issue is that we believe talks are the only way, and our partners want to take more drastic measures. But the question is – where is the line between resolutions and a military operation?

We saw that with the resolution on Libya. It basically led to international intervention. This is a bad way. Both President Obama and Prime Minister Cameron assured me this is not what they want. So I think the plan is not over, and we should cooperate and continue consultations.
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Given the precision targeting of high value targets in Syria, it seems Russians assets had been in the theater for a pretty long time. They were snooping all around to identify and tag such targets. And when push came to shove, these were taken out in first wave itself. Not giving them any time to spread out.
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What is the most striking fact to come out of Russia's Syrian gambit is the clear ,decisive attitude and policies of pres.Putin.Putin is extremely clear in his mind as to who is responsible for the global mess,who is threatening Russia on its borders with troops,warships, and missile movements and what Russia should do about it. In fact,the asinine Western/US sanctions against Russia remind me of exactly the manner in which the US pushed japan to the brink of war in WW2 and was the cause for the Japanese to attack the US first at Pearl harbor and invade S-East Asia to secure their energy and raw material.

Unfortunately,it is the Euro-peons who are displaying anything but spine,with their servility to the US.France and playboy-pres M.Hollande capitulated over the sale of Mistrals, did nothing to watch the neo-Nazis take over the UKR-with covert US help and did not protest at the US saber-rattling threat of stationing BMDs in Poland and the Czech Republic ostensibly to deter Iran's non-existant N-tipped BMs!
If Europe does not unshackle itself rom US foreign policy,Europe is going to be an ethnic disaster zone,with a de-facto Islamic human invasion ,which has already sparked off huge anti-Merkel/immigrant/refugee protests from right wing Germans.These are only going to increase. A Russian military strategy to reinforce Assad's grip over Syria,pushing back ISIS may stem the tidal wave of refugees heading towards Europe.Putin may be Europe's last chance. The sooner they work with him the better.

As for the Ottoman Sultan pretender,his grandiose dreams are coming apart even as his capital is bombed most likely by Isis.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 89411.html
Russia in Syria: Air strikes hit 60 rebel targets as Russian campaign continues
US officials have admitted it could do nothing to protect its proxies on the ground
ALBERT AJI Damascus |
Saturday 10 October

Footage showing a Russian SU-34 fighter-bomber dropping a bomb over Syria on Friday, part of an airstrike that hit 60 targets Reuters

The Russian military has pressed on with its air campaign in Syria, bombing more than rebel 60 targets as US officials admitted it could do nothing to protect its proxies on the ground.

Syria’s army, emboldened by Russian air power, said it had advanced on villages in northern Hama and Idlib provinces, strongholds of rebel groups opposed to President Bashar al-Assad’s regime. Russia said its latest wave of raids targeted fighters associated with Isis in Idlib and Aleppo provinces, although the group has little presence in those areas.

Russia’s defence ministry had claimed on Friday to have killed 100 fighters, including two Isis field commanders, in a strike on an ammunition depot near Aleppo. Meanwhile, US officials said that CIA-backed rebels in the area were under Russian bombardment with little prospect of rescue by their American sponsors.

Putin's Syria adventure exposes terrorist threat now facing Russia

The Russians “know their targets, and they have a sophisticated capacity to understand the battlefield situation”, said Republican congressman Mike Pompeo, who is on the House of Representatives intelligence committee. They are “bombing in locations that are not connected” to Isis, he said.

Angus King, an independent who is on the Senate’s intelligence and armed services committee, said that US options “are much narrower than they were two weeks ago” before the Russians entered the war. Nevertheless, the US military said on Saturday that its planes had bombed 25 Isis targets in Syria and Iraq overnight, but did not elaborate.

According to the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, government forces captured the villages of Atshan and Um Haret in Hama province.
Syrian troops have faced stiff resistance from the rebels.

Heavy fighting was also taking place in the al-Ghab plain in Hama province – a natural barrier between areas controlled by Sunni Muslims and members of the Alawite sect to which Mr Assad and many of his loyalists belong.

The observatory also stated that Isis had capitalised on the Russian bombing of Aleppo, sweeping into areas of the province after the previous, more “moderate” forces had fled or were weakened by the Russian strikes.
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The Snackbars can feel the pain from miles away :twisted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t69eqVfMYDk
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Good Article

Russia's Aim in Syria Is to Strategically Defeat ISIS and Al Qaeda

Alastair Crooke Fmr. MI-6 agent; Author, 'Resistance: The Essence of Islamic Revolution

There are no 'moderate jihadists.' The term is an oxymoron: there are only jihadists who are more -- or less -- close to ISIS or al Qaeda. It is a parsing of definitions that simply does not interest Russia.
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Tow seems heavy and cumbersome. Mujahideen panting from carting if around
https://youtu.be/DIPBdePQXtY

No wonder its creators moved to fire n forget javelin
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abhik wrote:The Snackbars can feel the pain from miles away :twisted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t69eqVfMYDk
It keeps cracking like diwali cracker any idea what weapon is that ?
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^^^^^^^

looks like a major portion of their time is spent in shouting and shitting their pants

Is this the crap or other crap like this that the amrekis "failed" to take out??
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These videos with the 'AOA' are celebrations not :(( , hain?
These are the Secular Forces of President Assad. How can I tell?
If they were properly US-trained forces, they would be saying:
&^%*! *(&*! ^%*^^*!
. Q.E.D.
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Iraqi air force hits convoy of Islamic State leader Baghdadi

The Iraqi air force struck a convoy of Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in western Anbar province close to the Syrian border on Sunday, a military statement said.

The fate of the militant leader, who has declared himself the leader of a caliphate in areas his ultrahardline Sunni group controls in Iraq and Syria, is unknown, the military said.

"Iraqi air forces have bombed the convoy of the terrorist Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi while he was heading to Karabla to attend a meeting with Daesh commanders," the statement read, using the Arabic acronym for Islamic State.

The military said the air force bombed a location where Baghdadi was planning to meet Islamic States commanders.

"The location of the meeting was also bombed and many of the group's leaders were killed and wounded. Fate of murderer al-Baghdadi is unknown and he was carried away by a vehicle. His health condition is still unclear," the military said.
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AoA is dual purpose.
if you attack and score a hit, or the weapon is inflight...AoA is meant to hope for a sixer or celebrate the hit
if you are being attacked and just hoping to survive or someone just got shot..there are videos of syrian army sniper taking out some rebel
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germany slinking away
https://www.rt.com/news/312559-germany- ... es-turkey/

The German Defense Ministry announced it is to end its border protection mission in Turkey and remove its missile-defense batteries from the country. The decision was taken due to “low ballistic missile threat” as well as the “high costs of the mission.”
The defense ministry confirmed that the contingent of the Bundeswehr, the German army, taking part in a NATO operation called Active Fence Turkey (AFTUR), along with its Patriot missile systems, would be withdrawn from the Turkish border by the end of January 2016, after its mandate ends.

In a statement published on the German Defense Ministry’s website, the ministry confirms it will not extend the mandate to protect the southern Turkish border beyond the two and a half years of service it has already rendered.

READ MORE: Germany prepares for cyberwarfare offensive – reports

The German force currently stationed on Turkey’s border with Syria consists of 250 soldiers maintaining two “Patriot” missile-defense systems, including missile specialists, combat support personnel, and NBC protection forces.

The NATO force is deployed near the city of Kahramanmaras (southern Turkey), a hundred kilometers from the Syrian border. Some 400 Germans have been serving there since January 2013.

The Active Fence Turkey operation was launched in December 2012 after Turkey requested assistance from NATO to counter potential missile strikes from Syria, which is mired in a civil war. Apart from Germany, the US, the Netherlands, and since 2015, Spain, have taken part in the mission.
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interesting that Iran is specifically adding India into the statement.

this is from 18 Apr, 2015

https://www.rt.com/news/250209-iran-coo ... -amd-nato/

Iran has announced its readiness to cooperate with Russia, China and India on the issue of NATO’s missile shield and related threats from the military bloc, the head of its defense ministry said in Moscow.
“I'd like to support the idea of developing multifaceted defense cooperation between China, Iran, India and Russia to counter NATO eastwards expansion and installing a missile shield in Europe,” Hossein Dehghan said on Thursday, at an international security conference in Moscow.

Hours later Dehghan was cited by RIA Novosti as saying that Russia, China and Iran may hold tri-party defense talks.

"We discussed certain aspects of regional security. It was proposed to hold a trilateral meeting of Russia, Iran and China," Dehghan said after meeting with Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu.
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^^ Thats because these countries are outside the NATO/CENTO block and have independent FP and likely wont join any Anglo-Saxon block.

We should provide Iran with ABM systems like PAD/AAD as part of def export but then Israel wont look at it kindly
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