Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Sept 05, 2015

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Pakistan rejects allegations linking ISI operative in Kunduz fall
ISLAMABAD (Staff Report) – Pakistan on Friday rejected report by Associated Press news agency that a Pakistani operative was among those targeted in the US bombing of a Kunduz hospital run by Doctors without Borders (MSF).

Foreign Office spokesman Qazi Khalilullah said, “Allegations implicating Pakistan are baseless”, local media reported.

“I want to reiterate that non-interference in Afghanistan’s internal affairs is a key pillar of our Afghan policy,” the FO spokesman said.[/quote]
“Pakistan is fully committed towards preventing its territory from being used against any other country, including Afghanistan.” :((
They concluded that the Pakistani, believed to have been working for the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), had been killed.
Pentagon officials declined to comment over the issue.
Ganja Sharif likely to take up this matter with Ombaba? :mrgreen:
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This is an older news-item (and apologies for bringing cricket in here again)
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/sport/crick ... 345742.cms
At the just-concluded meeting of the International Cricket Council (ICC) in Dubai, there was a discussion over the uncertainty of the much-talked about India-Pakistan series but with the BCCI having a new president, it was felt that Shahryar's speaking to Manohar directly would be appropriate.

It is not lost on the officials that the series will eventually be decided by the governments of the two countries but the PCB wants to gauge the mood of the BCCI. The reported reluctance of the board to play the series was also discussed but it is learnt that N Srinivasan, the ICC chairman, told the PCB representative that he should touch base with his BCCI counterpart and seek his views on the series. There was also a discussion on the Indian board's reported reservations against Ten Sports, the PCB broadcasters, but it was felt that nothing should be left for assumption and a communication channel should be established. Srinivasan and Shahryar could not be reached for a comment.
So Khan then called Manohar, and then held his press conference reporting on what he says was said.
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"Famous Lotta Politico" To Quit Kaptaan's Party

Shah Mahmood Qureshi to ‘quit party shortly’
ISLAMABAD:
While the results of the October 11 by-elections in Punjab have forced the PTI and the ruling PML-N to do some soul-searching, they have also exposed the parties’ errors in the selection of candidates and its consequences.

The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) reclaimed the National Assembly’s NA-122 (Lahore-V) constituency but could not secure the Punjab Assembly’s PP-147 (Lahore-XI) seat. On the other hand, the ruling party and the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) both lost the NA-144 (Okara-II) by-poll.

The results have triggered a blame game within the ranks of the PTI over the party’s choice of candidate for the NA-144 contest, sources told The Express Tribune.

Read: PTI mulls action against seven party members

The PTI had fielded Ashraf Sohna with the blessing of the party’s national organiser, Shah Mahmood Qureshi. Sohna had quit the Pakistan Peoples Party earlier this year over differences with the party leadership.

Since the PTI’s defeat in the Okara-II ballot, fingers have been pointed at Qureshi – who spearheaded the entire campaign for the constituency – over “poor performance”.

In Lahore, PTI Punjab organiser Chaudhry Sarwar had led the election campaign and his performance was appreciated by the party chairman, Imran Khan, during his October 14 visit to the city. Qureshi was once again absent from the event.

Read: NA-122 by-election: Imran Khan dares premier to a face-off

Rumours are rife that Qureshi has decided to quit the PTI. However, he has refuted all reports regarding his departure from the party on the microblogging website Twitter.

Meanwhile, sources have stressed that “Qureshi is leaving the PTI shortly”. They claimed that he was not even taking Imran’s calls.

The PTI chief had visited the party’s Garhi Shahu office in Lahore but Qureshi stayed away, which, according to sources, was another indication of growing differences.

They said Sarwar had also called for looking into the decision of awarding the party ticket to Sohna. Interestingly, however, Sarwar was part of the panel that interviewed the candidates for awarding the party ticket for the Okara poll.

A source said that “there is likelihood of Qureshi joining the party of former president Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf”. He has made up his mind and is weighing his options before joining Musharraf’s party, added the source.

Qureshi is a seasoned and constituency-based politician; therefore, his political future would not be harmed much by his decision, sources said.

When contacted for comments, Qureshi did not respond to queries about the rumours suggesting his differences with the party. On the other hand, PTI leaders refuted the reports.

Being the national organiser of the party, Qureshi is busy in preparations for the upcoming local government elections, they added.
So the earlier "rumours" that he was not happy in " Kaptaan's team" were not unfounded ; so the path is now fully uncontested for Madam Jalebi to be the FM of PTI, if, Immy is allowed to assume power by the Deep State :mrgreen:
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Pakistan, China were all set to attack India: Bruce Riedel :shock:
ISLAMABAD: Former Central Investigation Agency (CIA) official Bruce Riedel has revealed that Pakistan and China were all set to attack India in 1962.

Former CIA official Bruce Riedel writes in his latest book “JFK’s Forgotten Crisis: Tibet, the CIA and the Sino-Indian War” wrote that Pakistan had agreed to Chinese offer for attacking India which was intervened by then US president John F Kennedy.

Bruce claims in his book that then Pakistan president Field Marshal Ayub Khan had demanded Kahsmir for not attacking India. :roll:

Anticipating an attack on India by China after the 1962 war, the then John F Kennedy administration was planning a $500 million military aid package for India including help to increase arms production and creation of six mountain divisions, a new book has said.
The package, which was shelved due to Kennedy’s assassination, also included an aid of $120 million to be equally split between the United States and Britain.
Obviously, something is not "right" here; hard to "digest" this propangandu item.
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Kasuri is still in the team, right? Would the patriarchy mind set of the macho set let a woman supersede a man?
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Falijee: Bruce riedel wants to be thought of as a friend of India. Madame Clinton is almost assured of the dem nomination. So he is trying to smooth the way for ms. Clinton. He was in the alleged meeting where mr. Clinton allegedly read the riot act to sharrif, remember? Probably some backscratching within the U.S. Context and nothing to do with India.
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Pakistan on its way to becoming ‘mini superpower’ by 2025 :rotfl:
( Part I of the same segment was reported a few months ago :mrgreen:
ISLAMABAD:
With the help of the government’s ambitious technology plans, the country is on its way to becoming a mini superpower by 2025, said Minister for Planning, Development and Reforms Ahsan Iqbal on Thursday, as he expressed confidence in the country’s future.
After all, he is the Minister of Planning and nothing wrong in "planning" to become a "mini super power"- whatever it means .
Just a suggestion- would not it be better, if the Minister just starts his efforts to plan for no water shortage by 2025.
He added that the government was committed to put the country on the path of technology because it was one of the strong drivers of growth. “Growth cannot be achieved through crawling in exports and by relying on commodities.”

He said the government needed to enhance exports in order to achieve growth, which would be possible only with the advancement in technology and value addition.
Lots of "buzz words" being used here ; maybe, the job does involve being "uptodate" on latest lingo; but then his job just involves "planning"; "implementation" is probably someone else's "headache".
Meanwhile, Iqbal called upon the youth in the country to contribute to national development along with their personal and professional pursuits. “The government recognises the potential of youth for national development and it has engaged them in the development process through various initiatives.”
Motivation and salesmanship obviously appears to be his strong points
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Falijee wrote:Pakistan, China were all set to attack India: Bruce Riedel :shock:
ISLAMABAD: Former Central Investigation Agency (CIA) official Bruce Riedel has revealed that Pakistan and China were all set to attack India in 1962.

Former CIA official Bruce Riedel writes in his latest book “JFK’s Forgotten Crisis: Tibet, the CIA and the Sino-Indian War” wrote that Pakistan had agreed to Chinese offer for attacking India which was intervened by then US president John F Kennedy.

Bruce claims in his book that then Pakistan president Field Marshal Ayub Khan had demanded Kahsmir for not attacking India. :roll:

Anticipating an attack on India by China after the 1962 war, the then John F Kennedy administration was planning a $500 million military aid package for India including help to increase arms production and creation of six mountain divisions, a new book has said.
The package, which was shelved due to Kennedy’s assassination, also included an aid of $120 million to be equally split between the United States and Britain.
Obviously, something is not "right" here; hard to "digest" this propangandu item.
Why is this so difficult to believe? In any event, small arms assistance did make its way to India and the most serious talks about Kashmir were also held with Ayub Khan post 62. At the time, there was no understanding between China and US, which actually happened almost a decade later when the two countries arrived at a detente against the Soviets. There is absolutely nothing in known history that makes this account implausible.
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Avinash R wrote:Almost had Kashmir deal with Pakistan: Ex-PM’s envoy Lambah
Harinder Baweja, Hindustan Times, New Delhi | Updated: Oct 16, 2015 07:39 IST

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/alm ... ngoLJ.html
Pakistan agreed to ditch its long-held position seeking a Kashmir solution through the implementation of a UN resolution for a referendum and agreed not to redraw borders during secret negotiations with India in 2007, former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s special envoy revealed.

Satinder Lambah, India’s backchannel man on the secret talks between India and Pakistan, told HT in an exclusive interview, the leadership on both sides had firmed up an agreement but it was not finally signed because of domestic turmoil that led to Pervez Musharraf’s removal.

“What we were working on, agreed there would be no reference to the United Nations resolution or a plebiscite in Kashmir. Both sides had agreed that borders cannot be redrawn,” said Lambah.

...

Several leaders in Pakistan, who may have been privy to the agreement, said that India had agreed to the demilitarisation of Kashmir. But Lambah said, “We had agreed to the reduction of military troops, not paramilitary and that was subject to Pakistan ensuring an end to hostilities, violence and terrorism. That was a major prerequisite. There was no timeline by which the agreement was to be signed. The only time limit was that terrorism must end.”

Barely a year after the broad contours of the agreement had been painstakingly worked on by both sides, Mumbai saw a major attack in November 2008, despite the categorical assurance from Pakistan that it would not allow non-state actors to use its soil to export terror.

“Mumbai was a very unfortunate incident and that did stop the dialogue. There was a break but we had already finished most of the work by then. After the Mumbai attacks, there were limited (back channel) contacts but what was agreed on by the Musharraf government was not disowned by the successive governments (headed first by the PPP under Yousaf Raza Gillani and currently by Nawaz Sharif).”

...
What Lambah calls a 'win' will cause several thousand Indian dead in the course of time. The constant trips to 'discuss' the Kashmir issue gives Pakistanis hope that eventually, one day, they will see some kind of 'joint control' or at least some minor territorial concessions to them from India. Indians need to convey to Paks in one voice that this shall never happen even under threat of nuclear war. Right now Paks behave as spoilt children with dad and mom giving two different messages.
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vayu tuvan wrote:Falijee: Bruce riedel wants to thought of as a friend of India. Madame Clinton is almost assured of the dem nomination. So he is trying to smooth the way for ms. Clinton. He was in the alleged meeting where mr. Clinton allegedly read the riot act to sharrif, remember? Probably some backscratching within the U.S. Context and nothing to do with India.
Vayu tuvan- ji: Bruce Riedel's statement, in the context of your explanation, now seems plausible; China obviously attacked in 1962 and Pakistan followed it up in 1965 to "grab Kashmir"; at that time, Pakis were also trying to be "cosy" with China to counter India; maybe, there was something going on "behind the scene" between these two!
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Govt forms body to redress MQM's grievances
ISLAMABAD - The federal government has constituted and notified the Grievance Redressal Committee to redress the grievances of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement and other political parties, person or entity.

According to a statement, the constitution of the GRC was agreed upon between Senator Ishaq Dar on behalf of the government and Dr Farooq Sattar on behalf of MQM when they signed a memorandum of understating on October 9.

Both the parties had agreed to the formation of the committee within five days of the signing of the memorandum of understanding. The government has now notified GRC within the agreed time and the notification of the GRC has been issued.
What does the "formation of a grievance committee" really mean; is Bad Sharif part of this deal, as he is the one leading the drive against Altaf Bhai; what about the "cases" against Altaf Bhai & MQM; will they be dropped or will they go easy ?
Too many unanswered questions- time will tell :mrgreen:
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Nawaz, Obama not to sign nuclear deal
WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday said that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US President Barack Obama are not going to sign a nuclear deal next week, but they will discuss the nuclear issue in their meeting.

The prime minister is scheduled to visit the US capital on October 20 for a White House meeting with President Obama that is scheduled to take place on October 22.

Reports circulating in the US media say that during the visit the United States may offer a deal to Prime Minister Sharif that may pave the way for Pakistan’s acceptance in the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

“A deal like the one that's been discussed publicly is not something that’s likely to come to fruition next week,” said White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest when asked to comment on these reports.

“But the US and Pakistan are regularly engaged in a dialogue about the importance of nuclear security and I would anticipate that dialogue would include conversations between the leaders of our two countries,” he added.
So the suspense is now over; then the question is - what is the purpose of this trip ? more shopping/dinning for the Begum ? "bridge -building"with the local Paki community and facing Immy's supporters ? are there not "more urgent matters" to handle at home ? :mrgreen:
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More on cricket:
http://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/pcb- ... inst-india
Speaking about the meeting between Thakur and the PCB chief in Dubai, a source from the PCB, however, said that, as of now, the BCCI was still non-committal about the series in December.

Apparently Thakur made it clear to Khan that while the Indian board had a policy of playing more bilateral matches with Pakistan and Bangladesh, he could not make any commitment at this time, he said. Thakur conveyed to the PCB chief that at present there were some internal issues in the Indian board that required to be first sorted out after which they would take up the issue of the series with Pakistan.
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Well you see, after the nookular dhamaaka from Brothel Cheena, Bakistan graduated from a "pico" super power to a "nano" super power. Now they are trying to graduate to a "micro" superpower.

Bakistan is a diverse country. With no water like the moon, 300 million people with nothing to do but to phuc, sand storms that make Mars blush, floods that make Amazon look pale, and earthquakes that are comparable to Japan :- Bakistan has all the ingredients to make it to a "mini" level. There is so much energy in these events, and they could harvest it.

With high skilled En-djinneers who extracted djinn energy, Bakistan can use alll the above sources to become energy independent and chart a new course in History.

Meanwhile message from SDRE: Please build 20 feet high walls with auto-cannons and tower mounted remote-controlled machine guns every 100 feet to monitor our border with this emerging micro-super power.
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http://www.baaghi.tv/khara-sach-with-mu ... f-warzain/

Paki spewing venom against their Roti-Kapra-Makan giver Saudi foulfathers.
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India — like us, but not quite
The usual image of India in Pakistan — propagated by our textbooks, media and public discourse — is of a place where there is ‘Hindu rule’. In this country, they note, all minorities are oppressed (here they quickly point out that the Sachar committee report noted that Indian Muslims are less educated than Indian Hindus as proof of this, even though Indian Muslims have a higher literacy rate than Pakistani Muslims), and so we must thank God that we have Pakistan, or else we would have been crushed under Hindu domination. This explanation has satisfied many a Pakistani about the ‘evils’ across the border and the safety we live in.

While the faintly aware among us always knew that the above caricature was not quite the reality in India, I find it amusing that the people who did believe in it are now furious that what they believed is actually becoming a reality! The rise of the Hindu right ever since the election of Prime Minister Narendra Modi is largely what the Pakistani narrative stated India was always like, so why the outrage? One person who spoke to me about this said, “We are outraged since India claims to be secular!” But did we ever take this claim of secularism seriously? If we did, then, by that logic, there would have been no point in creating Pakistan!

While the noted poet Fahmida Riaz has rightly lamented that India is turning out just like us, indications are that this is not completely the case. I cannot make a full argument here, but let me make a couple of points.

First, the Indian polity is based on a very diverse platform. Compared to Pakistan, where a mono-cultural identity has been imposed, India has thrived on a ‘unity in diversity’ slogan. Hence, while there are increasing attacks on minorities, and the awful killing of Mohammad Akhlaq is a testament to rising tensions, on the other side of the coin is the story of the crowd-funding of a Pakistani girl Saba Tariq Ahmed’s treatment in India. Saba, who was suffering from Wilson’s disease, was twice funded by Indian nationals, up to the tune of INR13 lakhs for her weeks-long treatment in India. This story alone shows that India is not just about one story, one monolithic people or one way of thinking and reacting. Furthermore, over two dozen scholars have returned their prestigious Sahitya Akademi awards in protest against the rising intolerance in India. The return of these awards has created a furore where a public discussion has already begun about the seriousness of the current situation. These examples, and more, show that there is already a reaction in India to the rise of intolerance and there is nothing to show that the extremists are going to win this battle.

Secondly, India is still developing and as societies become richer and more urbanised, societal fissures come to the fore. Since 1991, India has been on the fast-track of development: cities have grown, rural areas have shrunk and income, class and caste inequalities have increased. These factors have exacerbated religious tensions too. A lot of Hindutava supporters have come up economically and politically in the last couple of decades and they are just flexing their muscles. Just like caste politics, religious politics is and will remain fluid in India and therefore we must not take the recent turn of events as decisive.

Thirdly, democracy is the prime guarantor that events in India are not going to completely slide out of control. In Pakistan, we have a tendency to undermine the importance of the elected government, and its change after five years, because we know that elected governments do not make a real difference as decisions are mostly made elsewhere. However, this is not the case in India. While India has Modi as prime minister now, it also had Dr Manmohan Singh as prime minister for a decade, and in the next election things can change. The BJP came to power earlier as well and was then voted out despite being confident that its ‘Shining India’ slogan would lead it back to power. However, the reality turned out to be a rude shock. It might appear that India is becoming like us, but I would not hold my breath on this actually happening.
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Varadarajan 's language
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^^^^ Lambah has been fully neutered by the Pakis. Look at how he calls the full scale terrorist Mumbai attack an "Unfortunate incident".
Congressi leaders Shivraj Patil had used the same words for describing the 2008 attack in Mumbai. I also remember another Congress minister Salman Khurshid calling the beheading of Indian soldier by the Pakistanis an "unwholesome incident"

How has India survived these traitorous Basta**s?
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Baby Making - Paki Style :mrgreen:
Post-marriage pressure: ‘When will you have a baby?’
I got married a few years ago. Long before we were back from our honeymoon; long before we even unpacked most of our luggage, we started feeling “the great expectations” creeping into our life.
Mostly, it was those strange nudges and indecent insinuations by the mothers-in-law and their various variants (khalas, chachis, mumanis, etc). We tried to ignore them, but very soon, the probing agents came out with full blown blatant interrogation, geared around just that one question:
‘Has it happened yet?’
You cannot say no to that question. I repeat: ‘No’ is not an option, never was and never will be, as we were soon about to find out the hard way.

Their first reaction to an answer in the negative is always along the lines of this dialogue from some Indian film: “Badu normal chey (Is everything normal)?”
Aunties we had never met in our lives, old women in the neighbourhood, even perfect strangers and bystanders started offering us the most intimate of advice.

Ab-e-nesaan, the water from nauroz rains, the kurtas from holy shrines, the mithais, the totkas and the recipes...we had it all.
But the "famous Ab" from the Land Of The Two Holy Cities not on the list ? :eek:
When every other tactic failed, we decided to seek refuge in the concept of family planning. I mean it was easy to accept that everyone had a right to enjoy his/her life and control its events, right?
Is not such (family planning) activity "haram" under the Book?
Are you insane?
How can there be happiness, rather, how can there be a life without babies?

We were given a dozen arguments, all based upon the fickleness of life. Now there is a huge variety of these, but let me summarise a few:
‘What if you lose your ability to procreate in the next two years?’
We learned that there is a target line that we must meet, in terms of our age ratio to the age of our children.
Parents (usually mothers-in-law) want to see their grandchildren in their lifetime.
Lucky for us, the circus ended on a beautiful Sunday morning, when we found out that we were indeed going to have a baby.
As it turned out, the aunties were just getting warming up for ‘the second child conundrum’. But, I’ll leave that story for another day.
Part II of the "story" coming up - after 9 months :D
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What is fascinating about this link is not the article which is a zero for me but the little note at the bottom.

It is these "extra touches" that Paki RAPE put in their English media that makes them look like a modern western society. Pakistan probably does not have 5% of the English media size and reach that India has, but the Paki media are pretentious and present a picture that is carefully designed to appeal to a western audience. This is definitely not accidental. It is by design. Indian English media can't even pretend to come out like this. BTW whodafuk is Sarah O'Connor? A TFTA who lives in some English speaking western nation will probably recognize that name instantly. And the Amriki/Angrezi will think "Just like us onlee"

Look at the footnote about the author
Akhtar Abbas is an engineer by profession who, quite like Sarah O'Connor, is fed up with machines. Born in an analogue world, he quietly converted into the digital realm without changing his habits. Human behavior is his favorite area of study.
As is typical of Pakis there is not much skill/scope for tech/science. It's the humanities
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Falijee wrote:Pakistan on its way to becoming ‘mini superpower’ by 2025 :rotfl:
( Part I of the same segment was reported a few months ago :mrgreen:
Pakistan is already "Minni" of many masters, SuperPowHer status is natural professional progress by Pakistan.
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shiv ji:
... Sarah O'Connor ...
Please don't tell me you never watched any of the Terminator movies. OOTH, please tell me. I am sure you employed those 3 x 2.5 = 7.5 hours much more productively than that Abbas (?) whatishisface and yours truly who have watched those three hollywood specatcles of the gubernator.

BTW, that guy completely confused the digital world of Matrix movie series (what the fuss about "analogue" world, hain jee?) with a completely different concept of the world of Terminator where the robots controlled by a rogue AI skynet take over the world.
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shiv wrote:... BTW whodafuk is Sarah O'Connor? A TFTA who lives in some English speaking western nation will probably recognize that name instantly.
...

Look at the footnote about the author
Akhtar Abbas is an engineer by profession who, quite like Sarah O'Connor, is fed up with machines. Born in an analogue world, he quietly converted into the digital realm without changing his habits. Human behavior is his favorite area of study.
As is typical of Pakis there is not much skill/scope for tech/science. It's the humanities
Doctaar Saahib, surely you were being rhetorical wonly --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Connor_(Terminator)

Oops Vayu Bhagwan was swifter
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Sheninigens Surrounding Assassination Of Pakistan's First Prime Minister
The mystery that shrouds Liaquat Ali Khan's murder
On October 16, 1951, Pakistan’s first prime minister Liaquat Ali Khan was assassinated in Rawalpindi's Company Bagh (also known as East India Company Garden) during a public meeting of the Muslim City League.
He was a close aide to the founder of Pakistan, Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, and it was during his rule that religious parties begin to take foothold in Pakistan.
That may be a myth, as it was The Father Of The Nation, who achieved his (moth-balled) Pakistan, by rousing the Aam Abduls and invoking the slogan of "Malsi In Danger".
To thwart their designs, Liaquat Ali Khan had introduced the Objective Resolution in the Constituent Assembly. Apparently it was aimed at checking the influence of religious groups, but Khan’s detractors would say that the resolution, instead of erecting a barrier, provided religious parties with a constitutional base to impose their ideologies on the rest of Pakistan.

The same Objective Resolution was later made part of the country’s Constitution by military ruler General Ziaul Haq to enforce his self-conceived version of Islam.
After Liaquat Ali Khan’s murder, the Company Bagh was renamed as Liaquat Garden.
Exactly 55 years later, in this very Liaquat Garden, another prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, was to be assassinated.
Due to this dubious distinction, the Paki Govt should approach the UN to declare this notorious bagh as a World Heritage Site :mrgreen:
n his book, "The American Role in Pakistan", M. S. Venkataramani writes that a single bullet from Liaquat Ali Khan’s assassin proved to be the catalyst of change. Pakistani officials quickly declared that the assassin Said Akbar was an Afghan national.
And he was "allowed" to sit in the front of the stage ?
The New York Times ran an Associated Press story which quoted Pakistani officials as saying that Said Akbar, the Afghan national who had assassinated the prime minister, had been receiving a monthly allowance of Rs450 (USD 155) from the government of Pakistan.
It is an undisputed fact that Liaquat’s assassin Said Akbar was sitting in front of the stage in a row of chairs designated for the Crime Investigation Department (CID) police officers. The place he had positioned himself in allowed him to target Liaquat Ali khan.

Even at that time, the hand of the "Deep State", as in other such killings, (BB) cannot be ruled out.
It is a question that remains unanswered and a subject of speculation even after 55 years. Akbar was shot dead by police at the same spot, minutes after he had assassinated the prime minister; his death deepened the mystery surrounding this high-profile murder.
The New York Times reported that moments after Akbar had fired two shots, people sitting nearby pounced at him and dismembered him; he was also shot at, and at least one bullet was fired by a police officer, who later testified that he was ordered to shoot the assassin by a senior police official.
Similar to the murder of Mohterma (BB) when the evidence was hosed down
By killing Said Akbar, instead of arresting him, police officers eliminated a crucial piece of evidence; similarly, when Benzair Bhutto was assassinated in 2007 as she left Liaquat Garden after a public gathering, Rawalpindi’s Fire Department was quick to wash the crime scene, depriving investigators of important evidence. It placed another question mark on the country’s history of unsolved assassination cases.
Liaquat Ali Khan is often accused of initiating the policy of Pakistan’s tilt towards the United States by preferring Washington DC over Moscow for his first state visit. He is also accused of rejecting the Soviet invitation. Historical evidence, however, suggests that it was Quaid-i-Azam who had decided that Pakistan would join the American — rather than Russian — block. He had made up his mind even before partition.
It was Jinnah, who had no choice but to hitch his bankrupt entity to Massa with the pretext of "containing communism", later his successor joined Anti-communism pacts to secure needed money.
Jinnah grew more suspicious of the Russians after the Partition; his mistrust of a super power next door would be discussed later, first let’s examine the charge against Liaquat Ali Khan — that he had snubbed the Russian invitation.
Contrary to this popular belief, he was, in fact, never invited by the Russians in the first place; instead, the invitation was extracted by Pakistan with some diplomatic manoeuvres.
In 1949, US President Truman had invited Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru on a state visit to Washington DC. It irked the Pakistani prime minister, who was known for his pro-West policies, because instead of inviting a proven ally, Washington had bestowed the honour of state visit on Nehru, who was perceived to be a socialist and communist leader.
Rivalry from the pre partition days between the two ?
The prime minister expressed his desire to visit Moscow. On 2nd June 1949, Liaquat Ali Khan received an invitation from the Soviet Union which he duly accepted after five days. Now, he was all set to visit Moscow.

But Pakistan’s pro-West bureaucracy was unhappy with the proposition.

Americans and British, too, were not pleased. The United States was tolerant enough to not to voice its anger, but the British were unequivocal in their show of displeasure.

The British High Commissioner in Karachi, Sir Laurence Grafftey-Smith, warned Pakistani Foreign Minister Sir Zafarullah Khan that the upcoming visit to Moscow would be seen with mistrust by American and British populations.
Finally, the visit was cancelled.
So here is confirmation that, from the very start this "artificial entity" was independent in name only, but was "breast fed" by the western powers for their own purposes.
After the Partition, Russians had aligned themselves with India and understood that she would be their nature ally. It is also possible that Indian officials were involved in the delay of the visit, which was eventually cancelled.
No objective person is going to believe this crap; there was no formal alliance between India and USSR.
From Liaquat Ali Khan to Benazir Bhutto, Pakistan has a history of unsolved assassinations. In Liaquat Ali Khan’s case, the officer investigating his murder and vital documentary evidence met their demise in an air crash.
Not to forget Terry Thomas's (AKA Zia ) air crash, the mysterious death of Shuhrawardy ?, the unsolved murders of ZAB two sons .
Then, a strange revelation was made. In February 1958, a defamation suite Gurmani vs Z.A. Suleri was being heard by a Lahore High Court bench. The court wanted to see an investigation file about Liaquat Ali Khan’s assassination. The Attorney General, who was present in the courtroom, was asked if it was possible to present the file in the court; he promised to supply all the necessary information by Feb 25. When the Attorney General failed to live up to his promise, the court sent him a letter, to which he replied that the Chief Secretary West Pakistan was holding the file.
The court issued a summon, and on March 1, 1958, an Additional Advocate General testified that the file had gone missing, and that a search was underway. On March 8, a CID officer informed the court that the government was unable to locate the file and, hence, unable to present it in the court.

File " missing" and/or cannot be found, along with court adjournments, is a common ploy, in Pakiland to stall a case . As shown by later events, there are other killings, to follow, which will also remain unsolved :mrgreen:
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jash_p wrote:WoW !!!!!!!!!!!!

Bagger threatened to generous donor that he will stop bagging if you don't give me what I wants !!!!!!!


PCB chief threatens to boycott India


KARACHI: Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Shaharyar Khan has threatened to boycott India in ICC and Asian Cricket Council events if the BCCI officially refused to play the proposed series against Pakistan in December, according to a report.

In a hard-hitting statement, Khan said it was disappointing that until now the BCCI had not even sought permission for the December series from the concerned ministry in India.

"Nothing is final or decided as yet but if the Indian Board officially backs out of the series, then we have the option of boycotting all matches against them in ICC and ACC events as well," Khan was quoted as saying by 'Express' newspaper.
ICC CEO Dave Richardson reminds the Islamic Republic of Pakistan that they are contractually obliged to play India in ICC Tournaments and any boycott of India consequent to India not playing the Islamic Republic in a bilateral series will result in “consequences” :wink: for the Islamic Republic.

Richardson also reveals that the Islamic Republic for all the bluster of the PCB and Shahryar Khan, did not dare to threaten an ICC Tournament boycott at the recent ICC board meeting :lol: :
............. There were reports that Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chief Shahryar Khan had threatened to boycott India in ICC events if the series was cancelled. Richardson, however, denied that threat.

"It wasn't mentioned in the meetings at all. The PCB and all other full members have signed participating agreements to partake in our events wherever they are," he said.

Asked whether the ICC will impose a fine if PCB decides not to play against India in such events, Richardson said: "Well, the agreement that they have signed is an agreement. If you breach an agreement, then there are consequences. But as far as I am concerned, it is not even coming close to it." ..............
Will be happy if India-Pakistan series takes place: ICC CEO
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vayu tuvan wrote:shiv ji:
... Sarah O'Connor ...
Please don't tell me you never watched any of the Terminator movies.
That is the point. That intro of the author is aimed at a narrow section of people who are expected to be familiar with Terminator 1..x

It's not just English language readers but English language readers who have Hollywood personality names at the tips of their tongues. These Paki articles are filtered and aimed at a specific audience. Apart from being easy to read (and probably widely read) among Indians, the BBC and CNN and assorted weshtren entities pick up such articles as clues that tell them about the people of Pakistan. And guess what its telling them? And guess what is true.
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Situation in Karachi very volatile, top MQM leader tells US

Ahead of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's US visit next week, the MQM has appealed to the American government to impress upon the Pakistani leadership particularly security forces not to target its members in Karachi in the name of counter-terrorism operations.

In a meeting with State Department officials here Farooq Sattar, a senior Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) member of National Assembly and in-charge of the its international relations and diplomatic affairs, said that the situation in Karachi is "very volatile" and "can explode" any moment if steps are not taken now.
And in typical paki fashion , an empty threat is issued
"I told them (State Department officials) that if Karachi is going into a state of turmoil, if things become irreversible where will you have the strength to run your (Pakistan's) economy (sic), run your national programmes like war on terror, action against the Taliban and fighting this enemy within," Sattar told PTI in an interview after his meetings at the State Department.
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LokeshC wrote:Meanwhile message from SDRE: Please build 20 feet high walls with auto-cannons and tower mounted remote-controlled machine guns every 100 feet to monitor our border with this emerging micro-super power.
LoceshC Ji :

If you were the Builder I would be your Assistant. This wall should be at least Twenty Feet Thick-Deep, with Six Inch Armour Steel Plates at least Twenty Feet Deep with Sensor Rods up to a further 50 Feet Depth to keep the Foaming at the Mouth Cwapistanis.

If possible the Machine Guns provided should be fully Armed and provided with Sensors that would enable the machine gun to have a continuous Fire for a sufficient period to provide he Troops in the Bunkers to man the Defences.

Not being a Military Strategist one may have asked for the impossible.

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Witch-hunt on to limit Pakistan's nuclear power: Pak daily

ISLAMABAD: A witch-hunt has begun to limit Pakistan's nuclear capabilities, a Pakistani daily said Saturday, noting that "India will be the first to benefit from any restrictions the US would like to impose on us".

An editorial "Nuclear Interference" in The Nation on Saturday said that too much of a flurry has been created about Pakistan having the "fastest growing nuclear arsenal" in the world.

"The information is misleading. Our capabilities may be growing fast, but they are still behind those of India. The information is based on a report released by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in August, that is a list of assumptions and predictions-hardly facts.

"No matter, research is research, and the witch-hunt has begun to limit Pakistan's nuclear power. The Indian media is especially happy with the development, and India will be the first to benefit from any restrictions the US would like to impose on us," said the daily.

It added that such is the political chatter prior to the arrival of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in Washington next week. "They focus on the American concern that Pakistan might be on the verge of deploying a small tactical nuclear weapon - explicitly modelled on weapons that US put in Europe during the Cold War to deter a Soviet invasion - that would be far harder to secure than the country's arsenal of larger weapons."

"The discussions are being led by Peter R. Lavoy, an intelligence expert on the Pakistani programme who is now on the staff of the National Security Council," said the editorial.

The daily went on to say that the "US will turn us into another Iran if they go down this path, another global boogeyman".

"Pakistan will never bend to such deals, and only suffer economically if any sanctions are enforced. These are the seeds for more resentment, more terror and more extremism. Cwapistan has always BENT for All of its Four-Fathers - andl being Guboed is a Cwapistani speciality.

"The US is playing with fire. However, it may not reach the state of sanctions, but we may have limitations put on our sale and buying of technology. China has already broken ground on a $9.6 billion nuclear power complex in Karachi, so the regulation will amount to naught- except the creation of Pakistan into a regional villain." which Cwapistan is - in Spades
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Four 'Hizbut Tahrir activists' arrested from Peshawar
Why is this "special operation" being conducted now and headlined in Paki media ; is this a coincidence or a repeat of the Musharraf era tactic, to "impress" Amreeka on the eve of Ganja Sharif's visit to US. And of course to get more dollars (coalition reimbursement funds?; bill to Massa ?) :mrgreen:
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Farooq Sattar is the official voice of Altaf Bhai in Karachi; under the new media directive, this visit of the # 2 MQM man to Washington, DC, appears to have been completely blacked out by Paki media; it is an encouraging sign that S.D. agreed to meet with him. And he had to resort to Indian Media to get his point across! (more fodder for anti-state allegations ? ). Just the other day, there was a news item in Paki papers that the government has agreed to set up a Grievance Committee to handle their legitimate complaints; was this, so he should not bring his complaint to DC on the eve of NS visit? Time will tell :mrgreen:
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Avinash R wrote:Almost had Kashmir deal with Pakistan: Ex-PM’s envoy Lambah
Harinder Baweja, Hindustan Times, New Delhi | Updated: Oct 16, 2015 07:39 IST

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/alm ... ngoLJ.html
Pakistan agreed to ditch its long-held position seeking a Kashmir solution through the implementation of a UN resolution for a referendum and agreed not to redraw borders during secret negotiations with India in 2007, former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s special envoy revealed.

Satinder Lambah, India’s backchannel man on the secret talks between India and Pakistan, told HT in an exclusive interview, the leadership on both sides had firmed up an agreement but it was not finally signed because of domestic turmoil that led to Pervez Musharraf’s removal.

“What we were working on, agreed there would be no reference to the United Nations resolution or a plebiscite in Kashmir. Both sides had agreed that borders cannot be redrawn,” said Lambah.

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Several leaders in Pakistan, who may have been privy to the agreement, said that India had agreed to the demilitarisation of Kashmir. But Lambah said, “We had agreed to the reduction of military troops, not paramilitary and that was subject to Pakistan ensuring an end to hostilities, violence and terrorism. That was a major prerequisite. There was no timeline by which the agreement was to be signed. The only time limit was that terrorism must end.”

Barely a year after the broad contours of the agreement had been painstakingly worked on by both sides, Mumbai saw a major attack in November 2008, despite the categorical assurance from Pakistan that it would not allow non-state actors to use its soil to export terror.

“Mumbai was a very unfortunate incident and that did stop the dialogue. There was a break but we had already finished most of the work by then. After the Mumbai attacks, there were limited (back channel) contacts but what was agreed on by the Musharraf government was not disowned by the successive governments (headed first by the PPP under Yousaf Raza Gillani and currently by Nawaz Sharif).”

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Satinder Lambah: Aspen

He spoke recently protesting about the "situation of intolerance" in India. Obviously he is Congi-system trash who seem to have built themselves a nest at Aspen.
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Sarah Connor is not returning te facor to Pakis. Maybe cuz she could not get out of the detention facility

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RAW planning to assassinate PM Nawaz Sharif, Hafiz Saeed :roll:
LAHORE (Web Desk) – Punjab Home Ministry has said that the Indian spy agency Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) is planning to attack Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

In a warning issued on Saturday, the provincial home ministry said that it has received information from the intelligence sources that the RAW may use banned terror outfits in Pakistan to fulfil their objectives.

“RAW wants to create anarchy in Pakistan through high value target,” the ministry said according to media reports.

The Indian notorious agency RAW is also planning to target Jamatud Dawa (JUD) Chief Hafiz Saeed, one of the most wanted men in India, the ministry warned.

The ministry has advised the concerned authorities to take necessary security measures to foil the nefarious designs of anti-Pakistan elements.
Just one comment on the above: Raheel not on RAA list yet ? :mrgreen:

PS: Does this also mean that the UN Dossier will be "recalled" for amendment purposes?
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Falijee wrote:Nawaz, Obama not to sign nuclear deal

So the suspense is now over; then the question is - what is the purpose of this trip ? more shopping/dinning for the Begum ? "bridge -building"with the local Paki community and facing Immy's supporters ? are there not "more urgent matters" to handle at home ? :mrgreen:
Don't be so sure about foggy bottom. Remember how pakis were declared Major Non NATO Ally? The whole atmosphere at the time was very different and then SD sprung the surprise. At the moment there is much consternation that the next administration, if GOP, will not be less sympathetic to paki cause hence the rush now.
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Omaba Likely To Pull The Carpet Under From Ganja Sharif (Euphemism for "Tense Diplomacy ?) :mrgreen:

Pakistan-US ties may sour again following Kunduz allegations
ISLAMABAD:
Ties between Islamabad and Washington could sour once again after US intelligence officials tried to implicate Pakistan in the recent takeover of Afghanistan’s strategically important city of Kunduz by the Taliban.
The Pakistan Army had already rebutted claims by Afghan defence officials that Pakistani security officials played any role in the seizure of Kunduz. But, now the Associated Press (AP) ran a story quoting unnamed US officials that American special operations analysts believed that the Afghan hospital, which came under US attack earlier this month, was being used by a Pakistani intelligence operative to coordinate Taliban activity.
The farticle tries to give the "impression" that these serious charges have already been dismissed by the Paki Govt; the errant student (Pakistan ) will likely be disciplined by the principal (US) in the one-on-one ("tense diplomacy") planned between NS and BO next week.
AP claimed that the special operations analysts had assembled a dossier that included maps with the hospital circled, along with indications that intelligence agencies were tracking the location of the alleged Pakistani operative and activity reports based on overhead surveillance, according to a former intelligence official familiar with the material.

Did RAA help in this process?; there was a recent news report that a senior US Army official paid a short visit to Nai Dilli :twisted:
Pentagon declined to comment on the report while Doctors Without Borders, which was running the medical facility, denied hospital was being used as command and control center by Taliban or housing of any weapons.

Read: PM revises agenda amid delayed US drawdown

Asked to comment on the latest allegations, the foreign ministry spokesperson here termed the claims as baseless and unwarranted.
Officials in Pakistan believe that certain elements hostile to Islamabad are trying to implicate the country’s security establishment in recent Kunduz attack. Officials said Pakistan had done more than any other country to help Afghanistan establish peace and stability.
Code words for Afghan/Indian Govts.
The development comes just days before PM Nawaz is all set to undertake a bilateral trip to Washington where he will hold talks with US President Barrack Obama.
Hence the "tense diplomacy"

Obama said that he would urge the Pakistani premier to persuade Afghan Taliban to come to the negotiating table.
Obama dare not "use" undiplomatic language with Ganja, unless he wants more "Kunduzes" on his hand :mrgreen:

PS: But past history indicates that these are minor irritants in the long running master-client relationship.
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