Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Sept 05, 2015

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 13 Nov 2015 06:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eEQv6L8R8

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Nov 2015 07:21

X Posted from the Islamism thread.

RCase wrote:Innocuous sounding headline - Five people stabbed on US campus, suspect is killed

No bonus points for guessing why this is posted here.

From other sources ...

Suspect's name - Faisal Mohammad of Santa Clara, CA. He was a freshman studying computer science at UC Merced. {I am ready to wager that the ethnicity of this lad will be traceable to the Land of the Pure}

"We are in the preliminary stages of our inquiry, but based on the evidence gathered so far, including at the crime scene and at the suspect's campus dormitory room, we have no reason to believe that this was in any way related to terrorism.

"At this point, it would be irresponsible to draw such conclusions based solely on the ethnicity of the suspect.

"At this point in time, the preliminary evidence suggests that freshman computer science and engineering student Faisal Mohammad of Santa Clara appears to have been motivated by personal animosities, not a political agenda.
The dhimmi sheriff's response ...

Sheriff Warnke said the FBI looked into Mohammad's background and family and found nothing to indicate terrorist ties. When asked about an ISIS tweet that praised Mohammad's actions, Warnke said ISIS was most likely just taking advantage of the attacker's ethnic name to instill terror.

You guessed it right, links go back to the Land of the Pure and the Home of the Terrorist. Mohammadden student Faisal Mohammad who ran amok on the University of California, Merced campus has his origins in the epicentre of Mohammadden Terrorism, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The Fresno Bee citing Daniel Mayfield, an attorney who was reported as saying he was representing the family Faisal Mohammad on a pro bono basis said Faisal Mohammad’s parents were immigrants from where else but the Mohammadden Terrorism breeding country of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

In the first public statement since the Nov. 4 attack, family members of Faisal Mohammad said they wished to thank friends who provided “their support in this time of grief.”

“We also want to express our deepest sympathy to the victims on campus at UC Merced.

“Faisal was a kind and respectful young man. He was always quiet and humble and excelled in school and academics. His teachers and friends always spoke well of him.”

The statement was released by Daniel Mayfield, an attorney who said he was representing the Santa Clara family pro bono. Mayfield, who is based in San Jose, said he did not know the Mohammad family before the attack, but had worked previously with members of the area’s Muslim community and had been recommended to them.

He declined to provide identifying information about the family. Mohammad’s parents, he said, were immigrants from Pakistan. The teen and his two sisters, one older and one younger, were all born in the United States.

Mohammad wounded four people at UC Merced in an attack …………………

Read more here:

Family of UC Merced attacker expresses sympathy for victims[

Abhay_S · Post by **Abhay_S** » 13 Nov 2015 07:31

Falijee wrote:JF-17 finds buyer at Dubai Air Show: report
But Be sure to read the fine print, buried in the farticle
According to Chinese media reports, the aircraft’s developers have already signed a contract with an anonymous buyer (why the secrecy hainji )as they look forward to more orders in the future.
In June at International Paris Air Show, Pakistan secured its first ever export order for its JF-17 Thunder fighter.

....Khalid Mahmood said “A contract has been signed with an Asian country.” However the name of the country was not disclosed and deliveries are likely to begin in 2017.
The Pakis are "put in charge of sales and marketing" due to their previous experiencing in BS..ing( In Pinglish!) and other gimmicks; there were earlier unconfirmed reports that Myanmar is the lucky/unlucky? recipient of this untried machine.

Initial customer was Myanmar but the pukis declined after they learnt abot the Rohingya issue. Then came Sri Lanka but BCCI put pressure and used the IPL card. Bangladesh was also interested but Hussina Wajid remembered 71.

Maldives might be next..

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Nov 2015 08:08

Yet another one of those “Oh We are such a normal Enlightend Moderate Islamic Country that we protest the misogyny of sandwich names and advertising tag lines just as we in the past have allowed “Vagina Monologues” to be acted out.”

Rather than wasting time protesting about the misogyny of sandwich names and advertising tag lines, protestors in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan should be protesting the real source of misogyny namely the Mohammadden religious law based penal code such as Shariah based laws that require women to produce 4 pious Mohammadden adult male witnesses to prove rape:

‘Sexist’ sandwich shop served humble pie in Pakistan

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Nov 2015 09:03

In case of threat, opposition to stand by govt: Aitzaz
Mucchar Sharif Doing Dhoom Dharraka; Ganja Sharif will soon get Mush Pe Dhakka

ISLAMABAD: Severely criticising a recent ISPR statement on poor implementation of the National Action Plan (NAP) by the civilian set-up, several political parties — mainly the PPP — assured the PML-N government of their complete support in any eventuality.“I am disappointed with the governance of the present government. But the ISPR and the corps commanders have no right to publicly talk about the democratic and constitutional government of Nawaz Sharif,” Leader of Opposition Aitzaz Ahsan said while speaking on a point of order in the Senate.Mr Ahsan said it was Mehmood Achakzai of the Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party (PkMAP) who had been talking on the matter over the past two days, regretting that no-one from the PML-N had the courage to speak out.
Indicating tensions in civil-military ties, the military leadership had gone public on Tuesday with its concerns about poor implementation of the NAP and warned that efficacy of its counter-terrorism efforts could be undermined by inadequate supporting actions from civilian agencies.The ISPR (Inter-Services Public Relations) issued the statement after a corps commanders’ meeting presided over by army chief Gen Raheel Sharif.“There is no doubt that the present government is absolutely incompetent. But can the military make such an announcement through an official statement after the corps commanders’ conference,” said Farhatullah Babar. “The ISPR statement itself is a manifestation of poor governance of the rulers.”“We can also ask questions about your governance, Mr Commander,” he said in an apparent reference to the army chief.“You almost daily tell us about the killing of foreign militants in Tirah Valley and other tribal areas. Please tell us the names of at least two militants,” he said. Similarly, he added, there were many questions in their minds about the ongoing Operation Zarb-i-Azb. “However, we do not ask such questions publicly believing that the army is doing a good job.”
Mr Babar said he would like to know why the army chief had not raised the issues at a meeting on national security issues presided over by the prime minister only two days before the corps commanders’ conference.Retd colonel Tahir Mashhadi of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement stood up and pointing to the empty seats in the house said the governance was “so good that no-one is there on the treasury benches”.Senate Chairman Raza Rabbani promptly commented, “That’s why they (the government) get such remarks.”He said the army had directly or indirectly ruled the country for years and the country’s present plight was only because of military interventions.The army, he said, should remain confined to its own domain, instead of becoming a supervisor of the civilian government.Though Nehal Hashmi of the PML-N took up the issue but he made no mention of the word ‘army’ in his speech. But, he said a message should be sent to all institutions that parliament was watching them and no-one could cross the constitutional limits.
Nauman Wazir of the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf indirectly supported the ISPR statement when he said that at a meeting also attended by Peshawar corps commander, the government had made certain commitments regarding economic activities in the troubled tribal areas. But no commitment has been met by the government or donor agencies.Independent Senator Mohsin Leghari said the government itself had been inviting army for different jobs that should have been done by civilian departments.He said the ISPR statement should serve as a wake-up call for civilians.Usman Kakar of the PkMAP accused the media and some so-called intellectuals of supporting “undemocratic forces”.“All institutions must be subservient to parliament. But it is not happening,” he said. “There has been constant interference in foreign and internal policy matters by intelligence agencies.”He asked the government not to compromise on the supremacy of parliament and democracy.The Senate chairman again advised the government to convene an in-camera session of the parliament or of the upper house to discuss issues related to foreign policy and NAP. He said all institutions must keep in view the rules of business, particularly the rule regarding the “mode of communication”.

wig · Post by **wig** » 13 Nov 2015 10:06

some interesting tidbits

Wish list
We hear General Bobby’s current sojourn to Uncle Sam’s redoubt is of his own making and not an invitation from across the Atlantic. Reliable sources say Bob has a wish list of stuff he wants from Uncle Sam amongst which is a new set of toys. These are the latest version of the jets we so love to flaunt, besides a generous tranche of greenbacks for the (selective) war on terrorism that we’ve fought. Uncle Sam is not likely to be magnanimous, given his insistence on nabbing the “good Taliban” and Gen Bob & Co’s consistent refusal to do so.

Fires of confrontation
The buzz is that The Man of Steel’s Talented Bro has been urging his senior colleagues to please, please, please concentrate on “bijli, pani” and good governance and not to “take on the khakis” again. That said, The Man of Steel has also been trying to douse the fires of confrontation that have been raging between his ministers. We hear he recently summoned two antagonists to a meeting over tea and talked things through. A fly on the wall told us that there were signs of a thaw after a direct exchange of grievances, mediated by The Man of Steel.

strange behavior by a momin. im the dim apparently has a scrub down with ground pulses to ward of the evil eye. no wonder the prices of pulses are sky high!

Black magic
Our mole in Bani Gala has revealed that earlier this year, The Great Khan was petrified that an evil eye was casting spells upon him. So convinced was he that Black Magic (kala jadoo) had been unleashed upon him that he resorted to a bizarre remedy. Our mole says The Khan began to follow a strict regimen at bath time: his staff made a paste of black gram (masoor ki daal) and he rubbed it on his body to ward off the black magic and then washed it all off, thus purifying and protecting himself. What next?

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/such-gup-111/

Abhay_S · Post by **Abhay_S** » 13 Nov 2015 12:39

http://www.dawn.com/news/1219282/econom ... lf-respect

Economics of self-respect

The prime minister’s visit to the US in October had all the trappings of recent previous ones by Pakistani heads of state or government: colour-synced ties matching those of the US president, dozens of relatives and hangers on in tow, and a bemused, I-would-rather-be-playing-golf-than-meet-this-guy look on the host’s face.

Nonetheless, these trips are regarded as the pinnacle foreign policy achievement by our politicos, replete with photos of begum sahib, daughter and granddaughters with POTUS and the first lady. The importance attached to these trips personally by those making them was captured in a brilliantly incisive cartoon by Pakistan’s leading political satire weekly on the eve of the prime minister’s US trip. It showed a beaming prime minister atop the gangway of his plane, suitably attired for his trip – in an ahram (used for pilgrimage to the holy land.)

Take a look: International debut of ‘first daughter’

This trip was just one in a long line of such visits where the demeaning obsequiousness of our elites has been on full display. PPP’s Birkin-carrying foreign minister took hubby along for a photo at the White House, while Nawaz Sharif’s family had apparently carried a shopping list along on the infamous July 4, 1999 meeting with Bill Clinton, as Pakistani soldiers were dying needlessly in Kargil.

A lack of self-respect is holding back the economy’s development.
This affliction is not restricted to the civilians of course. During Gen Musharraf’s tenure, underlings from the State Department would breeze into the president’s office straight from the airport, to the chagrin of the Foreign Office. In a particularly demeaning display by one of his cabinet ministers, a freshly retired general, the gentleman was pictured nearly scraping the floor as he greeted Christina Rocca during one of her many routine visits to Islamabad. (Who was Christina Rocca, you may rightly ask?).

Apart from the obsequious demeanour, it is the things we say and ask for, and then settle upon, that is even more depressing. Unlike Turkey, which spurned a $40 billion US inducement for joining the Iraq war, we have been more than happy to sign on to highly suspect and highly intrusive US constructs such as the Kerry-Lugar bill, that too for the promise of a mere $1.5bn a year. (With a reputation for being willing to ‘sell our mothers for a dollar’, perhaps the Kerry-Lugar bill did offer a reasonably large amount for our rulers).

The finance minister in the PPP government at the time, a competent economist, pleaded for the money, going to the extent of saying that Pakistan’s economy would collapse without the funds — a hyperbolic suggestion. The president at the time had a broader vision, of course. He plainly stated that the world ‘must’ give Pakistan $100bn. The ‘or else’ was left undefined, but the ‘if you do, you know where the money will go’ part of it hardly required any elaboration or imagination.

Any interaction with the US over the last so many decades has invariably revolved around trying to extract promises of large US aid or assistance; in a sign of how the bilateral relationship has waned over the years, this demand has now watered-down to the ‘early release’ of a few hundred million in CSF monies. Irrespective of the amount, one constant remains: money has always been a large part of our expectation from the bilateral relationship.

Know more: US may reimburse $375m under CSF in 3-4 days: Dar

Given this near uni-dimensional interaction, it would be instructive to put the $1bn or thereabouts that our power elites spend sleepless nights about in perspective:

Annually, the amount of tax not collected in Pakistan amounts to an estimated $10 bn at the minimum;

Every year, approximately 5pc to 7pc of GDP (around Rs2,000bn, or $20bn) is lost to corruption, by conservative estimates;

Electricity theft nationwide amounts to around $1-1.5bn a year;

The country’s exports can increase by a multiple of $1bn with policy focus and serious structural reform;

All these areas, and many others, are those that internal policies can address — provided that our power elites want to traverse the path of reform, self-respect and dignity. That is moot, since insiders with entrenched vested interests enjoying the ‘loot’ can hardly be expected to change the status quo.

The downside of this narrow-prism interaction with the US has been two-fold. First, Pakistan has ended up compromising its national interest on many an occasion – the Kerry Lugar bill being one such instance, and the externally driven agenda of unilateral trade liberalisation with India being another. (As an aside, it is ironic that the US was pushing for trade liberalisation, given how its own protectionist tendencies and the conflating of geopolitics with economics was on full display in the recently-signed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal).

Second, perhaps even more damaging in the long run, the availability of ‘easy money’ from external sources for a protracted period (rightly dubbed as geopolitical rents), whether through grants or loans, has served as the equivalent of our ‘Dutch disease’ and dulled the impulse of Pakistan’s power elites for meaningful home-grown economic reform.

In matters of national self-respect, Pakistanis can learn valuable lessons from tiny Cuba. The country of 11 million people stood up to the world’s superpower next door for over 50 years, without compromising its sovereignty or dignity. It did not grovel for peanuts, claiming the economy will collapse without a piddly $1bn a year. In the meantime, unlike Pakistan, Cuba devoted its energies to developing its human as well as social capital, spending up to 8.8pc of its GDP on building an enviable healthcare system, and achieving universal adult literacy (compared to 0.7pc, and 58pc respectively for Pakistan).

Not surprisingly, Cuba ranks 102 places higher than Pakistan in the UN Human Development Index.

If our elites discover self-respect, the world will respect and listen to us. Pakistan will also not require external assistance and props to ‘survive’, with the associated self-serving agendas of external actors.

The writer is a former economic adviser to government, and currently heads a macroeconomic consultancy based in Islamabad.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 13 Nov 2015 15:08

World Bank approves US $ 500 million loan to Nanga Bhookha Satan

ISLAMABAD: The World Bank has approved a USD 500 million loan to cash-strapped Nanga Bhookha Satan for energy sector reform in the country reeling under frequent power cuts.

The loan, scheduled to be issued in April, was delayed due to government's failure to implement key conditions imposed by the bank.

Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 13 Nov 2015 15:16

US sanctions Nanga Bhookha Shaitan money laundering group, Dubai-based affiliate

WASHINGTON: The US has slapped sanctions on a Nanga Bhookha Shaitan-based group and its affiliate in Dubai, which have ties with terrorist outfits like the LeT and underworld don Dawood Ibrahim, for laundering money for criminals and political activists.

"The Khanani Money Laundering Organisation exploits its relationships with financial institutions to funnel billions of dollars across the globe on behalf of terrorists, drug traffickers, and criminal organisations," said Acting Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence Adam J Szubin on Thursday.

Cheers

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Nov 2015 16:11

Pak to avoid talks on nukes during army chief’s U.S. visit

American defence officials had clarified that the Pakistan army chief would visit the U.S. on his own as there was no official invitation either from his counterpart or the Pentagon.

Why is he travelling to Riyadh, again without Pakistan government's permission and now going to the Pentagon without an invitation? And, why are King Salman and now Ash Carter and others meeting him?

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 13 Nov 2015 16:42

Gagan wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eEQv6L8R8

Stupid basterds. Have no knowledge of navigation rules? It is a very primitive mistake . It is like piracy at high sea.

Inder Sharma · Post by **Inder Sharma** » 13 Nov 2015 16:56

rsingh wrote:
Gagan wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eEQv6L8R8

Stupid basterds. Have no knowledge of navigation rules? It is a very primitive mistake . It is like piracy at high sea.

That was a deliberate ramming by the Paki Trawler. The packee gazi captain had been (then) recently redeployed from ISI and was out to show his pakiness

jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 13 Nov 2015 17:14

Security beefed up as Lal Masjid cleric launches fresh movement in Islamabad
SHAKEEL QARAR —

ISLAMABAD: A heavy contingent of police and Rangers was deployed in the areas surrounding Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa in the federal capital city to maintain law and order, following an announcement by cleric Abdul Aziz to hold a rally.

The rally announced by Lal Masjid cleric Abdul Aziz, in an earlier press release, was held to mark the initiation of a movement towards enforcement of a system based on the Holy Quran and Sunnah after Friday prayers today.

The rally, led by Aziz and Umme Hassan and comprising seminary students took off from Lal Masjid in Islamabad's G-6 Sector and ended at the Jamia Hafsa in Sector G-7 of Islamabad.

Umme Hassan is the head of the Jamia Hafsa seminary and wife of Lal Masjid cleric Maulana Abdul Aziz.

Those attending the rally shouted anti-government slogans in favour of Maulana Abdul Aziz. They also demanded the enforcement of a system based on the Quran and Sunnah.

This pious leader trying to implement what Jinha promised. It is halal to support this clerics effort.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 13 Nov 2015 17:17

That rust bucket of theirs might have sank with all the rescued hostages on board. Watch how the fata abduls are crapping in their shalwars, and shouting AoA to somehow keep their morale up!

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 13 Nov 2015 17:22

OMG, this is Pakistan's true unfinished agenda. Since partition, the dream of Jihanna was to create the first ever islamic homeland. The munafaqeen want to do their moral corruption and keep the qaidi's dream away!!!

Al bakistan needs Sharia right away

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 13 Nov 2015 17:25

Saria, not kashmeeer is the real unfinished agenda of paartition! Everyone should have saria in them!!!
The fauj, politicians and waderas have fooled the people of pakistan for a long enough time.

Enough ij enough, arleady!!!

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 13 Nov 2015 17:36

Pilot was drunk during ShaheenAir crash landing in Lahore

Maybe, the Islamic Authorities of Pakiland, for the purpose of public safety should consider introducing (after a fatwa has been obtained!) compulsory breathalyzer tests for the pilots of the Paki National Airline

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 13 Nov 2015 18:01

Bearded Jihadi on the right is searching for clues in his Mush

Shanu · Post by **Shanu** » 13 Nov 2015 18:29

X-Posting from Islamic State in Subcontinent thread.

Looks like the ghost of Lal Masjid is back..

http://www.dawn.com/news/1219429/securi ... -islamabad

A heavy contingent of police and Rangers was deployed in the areas surrounding Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa in the federal capital city to maintain law and order, following an announcement by cleric Abdul Aziz to hold a rally.

The rally announced by Lal Masjid cleric Abdul Aziz, in an earlier press release, was held to mark the initiation of a movement towards enforcement of a system based on the Holy Quran and Sunnah after Friday prayers today.

The rally, led by Aziz and Umme Hassan and comprising seminary students took off from Lal Masjid in Islamabad's G-6 Sector and ended at the Jamia Hafsa in Sector G-7 of Islamabad.

Umme Hassan is the head of the Jamia Hafsa seminary and wife of Lal Masjid cleric Maulana Abdul Aziz.

Those attending the rally shouted anti-government slogans in favour of Maulana Abdul Aziz. They also demanded the enforcement of a system based on the Quran and Sunnah.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Nov 2015 18:39

rsingh wrote:
Gagan wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eEQv6L8R8
Stupid basterds. Have no knowledge of navigation rules? It is a very primitive mistake . It is like piracy at high sea.

This video though old makes me sad and angry. No Paki ship should be allowed to come within ramming distance. It should be sunk. Government policy should issue that instruction to the Navy.

That apart, I saw an "editorializing" comment by that NDTV watzername woman who argues with a Brit MP saying that Modi might be a criminal and what is Britain going to do about Modi. The Brit MP ripped her a new one - but in the context of this video I find Vishnu's comments very meek "It could have been a major accident". I believe that if NDTVs editorial policy is to be judgemental then I am surprised at the meekness of this report. No one asked why the Indian ship did not fire at the Pakis.

I do admit that there are peacetime rules blah blah. Peacetime? With shitistan? I think we need to reset our attitudes.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 13 Nov 2015 19:30

Gagan wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eEQv6L8R8

Chaltha hai attitude, can't blame the Pukes for this. Pakees acting like Pakis, Indians acting like Indians.

-M

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Nov 2015 21:59

Top Chinese general vows to ensure CPEC security
Abbu Will Protect Poakacca in his own house

ISLAMABAD: Beijing will back Pakistan to ensure the security of a new special economic corridor providing access to the port of Gwadar that aims to create direct links between China and the Arabian Sea, a top Chinese general has pledged.Fan Changlong, vice chairman of China’s Central Military Commission, told army chief General Raheel Sharif on Thursday that Beijing looked forward to close cooperation “to ensure proper management and security of CPEC,” according to ISPR.Fan’s visit, the first by a Chinese general of his seniority in 11 years, came two days after Pakistan handed hundreds of hectares of land over to China for development of a free trade zone in Gwadar as part of the project.The development is part of China’s ambition to expand its trade and transport footprint across Central and South Asia while countering US and Indian influence.Fan, who headed a high level Chinese military delegation, on Thursday met Sharif at Pakistan army headquarters in Rawalpindi to discuss “matters of mutual interest, regional security, steps for regional stability and enhanced bilateral defence collaboration”, the statement said.Fan said China “deeply appreciates” Pakistan’s efforts to eliminate militancy, particularly by the East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM), which Beijing says is active in China’s Xinjiang region, on the border with Pakistan.Xinjiang – the homeland of China’s 10 million Uighurs, a mostly Muslim minority – is sporadically hit by deadly violence. Beijing has claimed that ETIM militants are hiding in Pakistan, a claim that has been supported by local security sources.“China values the efforts of Pakistan Army in fighting ETIM,” Fan said, adding that China and Pakistan are “best iron brothers, good friends and strategic partners”.Fan also met with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in Islamabad Thursday, with Sharif lauding Islamabad’s friendship with Beijing as a “cornerstone” of its foreign policy.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Nov 2015 22:06

Democracy at tipping point, says Gen Beg

Bad Sharif will Give Paki New year Present as President Of Original Pakistan(POOP)

LAHORE: Former army chief Gen Mirza Aslam Beg says the army and the political government have a clash of interests because of which the democracy is at the “tipping point”.Talking to The Nation today, he said the army wants to root out terrorism and corruption while politicians have joined hands to shield their own interests. “There is no possibility of the army stepping back as such a move will shake the very foundations of the country.”In his opinion the government’s reaction to the ISPR press release will adversely affect COAS Gen Raheel Sharif’s upcoming visit to the United States as he would not be in a position to talk to the US leadership from a position of strength. Still, he believes that the visit should not be called off at this stage.Asked if the situation had reached a point of no return or something could be done to avert any kind of political disaster, he said: “This is a very critical time which needs a very careful handling by both the government and the army.”The former army chief said although the ISPR press release referred to lack of good governance, the real issue was the obstacles the army was facing in proceeding against terrorists and corrupt people. The ISPR did not talk of these issues in so many words because of its limitations, he explained.He said being a former COAS he knew well the army’s mindset and to what extent could it reveal or conceal something.He said after launching operation in Karachi the army and the rangers had found that terrorists had tentacles everywhere and even political leaders and moneyed people were supporting them. Also, he said it was detected that Indian intelligence agency – RAW – had penetration even in an agency like Karachi Water Board, which was a matter of serious concern for the defenders of Pakistan.The situation is so grave that the army will not return without eliminating terrorists and taking the corrupt to the logical conclusion, he emphasized.He said it was regrettable that instead of strengthening the hands of the army and rangers to help them accomplish the mission they had been assigned, political forces had got united in support of the very elements the defenders of Pakistan were supposed to proceed against.The unity among the PML-N, PPP and the MQM at the time of the election of the National Assembly speaker should be seen in this perspective, he observed. At present, he said it was the PPP and the MQM which were facing action

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 13 Nov 2015 23:06

Gagan wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eEQv6L8R8

Unbelievable! And the IN for whatever reasons, was neither proactive (in not allowing the TSP ship to get so close) nor reactive in bashing the ******** after the incident. This MMS giri will do nobody any good.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 13 Nov 2015 23:21

Well what did the pious people expect hain ji?
If you fly shaheen air, you just might become shaheed. The difference between Shaheen and Shaheed is one letter onlee.
The pilot only had some zam zam cola.
Or maybe not. In a society which thrives on conspiracy theories, every accident is caused by drunken driving only

jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 14 Nov 2015 07:58

Look out in Paki papers and talk shows they will blame YYY conspiracy of paris shooting to malign peaceful religion of Allah.

Also there must be party and jalsha going on in madrashhas and mosques in land of pure.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 Nov 2015 08:08

Dar Claims He Didn’t Accept IMF Demand For 18pc GST

ISLAMABAD: Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said in the Senate on Friday that the International Monetary Fund (IMF) wanted Pakistan to increase general sales tax (GST) to 18 per cent but he did not let it happen.

By the way, what is he trying to prove over here?

“We have been fighting with the IMF. They have not come from the heaven. (Woh Asmaan Se Nahin Utre) I know how competent they are,” he said.
The minister was responding to remarks made by senators during the debate on an adjournment motion about debt accumulation to a level where Pakistan would need $6.7 billion this year for debt servicing.

But, then does he care? He will be long dead and gone,before the future generations of uneducated Aam Abduls will be saddled with an impossible debt burden; say goodbye to Paki wet dreams of a mini-super power status

Members questioned the logic of bolstering foreign exchange reserves and meeting fiscal deficit by more borrowing and warned that it would have dangerous consequences for the economy.
Mr Dar justified the recent decision to obtain a $500 million loan from the World Bank saying that it would have been criminal to decline to accept the ‘cheap money’.

This foreign trained Chartered Accountant, and a relative of Ganja should be reminded that there is no "free lunch" ; hope that in his personal life, he does not practice (living beyond your means ) what he preaches to the Paki National Assembly members !

He said the debt burden would continue to rise till the fiscal deficit was controlled. He asked political parties to discuss the matter with him and hammer out and own a charter of economy and a roadmap to come out of the debt trap.
“Let us de-couple economy from politics.
“Pakistan has a bright future if we put our heads together and jointly work on national agenda.”

Lot of Buzz words and bombastic announcement/ pronouncement in the Paki tradition

He said the present government had cut expenses by Rs135 billion and done away with secret funds of 32 institutions which were now available only to two intelligence agencies. (Inquiring minds want to know details)

Earlier, Sherry Rehman of PPP( and a close crony of Ex PM Gilani) called for devising a plan to pay back loans, instead of piling them up to bolster foreign exchange reserves. She observed that the policy was affecting the purchasing power of the common man.
Shibli Faraz of PTI criticised the government for what he called its spending spree and questioned the rationale for projects like metro bus in the present circumstances.

But, then the Metro Bus Project is a "cash cow" for Ganja, his cronies and his extended family, including the Hon Finance Minister of Pakiland

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 14 Nov 2015 08:25

jash_p wrote:Look out in Paki papers and talk shows they will blame YYY conspiracy of paris shooting to malign peaceful religion of Allah.

Also there must be party and jalsha going on in madrashhas and mosques in land of pure.

Modi was just 500 km from Paris when it happened. A sure sign that it was Hindu terror

Pulikeshi · Post by **Pulikeshi** » 14 Nov 2015 11:04

^^^ His mere presence spread intolerance and the terrorists were wearing saffron threads around their wrists
Just like they did in Mumbai... it is a YYY propaganda to tarnish the TFTA name of STFUPaki!
<sarc never off/>

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 Nov 2015 18:07

Muslims All Over The World Condemn Terrorism, Express Solidarity With French

Who's Who of Ummah World included in the list of condolence messages; the linked farticle fails to mention, the Guardian Of The Two Holy Mosques in the list; Typo? or a message to the Dar-ul-Harbs of the world?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 14 Nov 2015 18:20

TSP claims kirket is on

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/75 ... -pcb-chief

But India denies it

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 782028.cms

Don't know whom to believe. But something seems cooking. I don't know why BCCI or govt of India simply cannot come out and say, bring perpetrators of 26/11 to justice, and then lets talk about kirket. Also, depressing, if these reports have any credibility, the disagreements if any, are more about revenue sharing, and not about terror.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Nov 2015 19:04

CRamS wrote:TSP claims kirket is on

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/75 ... -pcb-chief

But India denies it

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 782028.cms

Don't know whom to believe. But something seems cooking. I don't know why BCCI or govt of India simply cannot come out and say, bring perpetrators of 26/11 to justice, and then lets talk about kirket. Also, depressing, if these reports have any credibility, the disagreements if any, are more about revenue sharing, and not about terror.

First thing, Don't trust media...

Saar, we have hosted Pakis in 2012 and that was post 26/11..So what is this talk of bringing perpetrators to justice. Why only cricket when we still maintain other relations with Pakis including Bhaiwood business.
I don't know about Modi Sarkar, but Sonia govt wanted good relations with Pakis at any cost.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 14 Nov 2015 20:05

Sonia govt wanted to pay jazia to them, plain and simple. This was their self defeatist plan all along!!!
The pak fauj promised to 'regulate' the terror tap, and sonia and the other cronies gladly agreed. Afterall they couldn't possibly be distracted from the oppertunity of a lifetime to rule / loot, hain ji.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 14 Nov 2015 21:16

Maulvis Attack Ganja Sharif For Calling Pakiland A Liberal Country

Religious leaders criticise PM for calling Pakistan ‘liberal’

NOWSHERA: Leaders of some religious parties have criticised the prime minister for calling Pakistan a “liberal country” in a recent speech.
Speaking at a programme held at the Darul Uloom-i-Haqqania, Akora Khattak, on Thursday to pay homage to late Dr Sher Ali Shah, they called upon the Supreme Court to take suo motu action on the prime minister’s statement.
The chief of his own faction of Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam, Maulana Samiul Haq, said that millions of people had sacrificed their lives for the creation of an ‘Islamic country’, adding that the slogan of a “liberal Pakistan” was a violation of the ideology of Pakistan.

It is high time that the Supreme Court of Pakistan should declare anyone as "blasphemous" if the word "liberal" is uttered.

He said the constitution had no term, “liberal Pakistan” and instead had envisaged the country as “Islamic democratic Pakistan”.(an oxymoron term )

The programme was attended, among others, by Jamaat-i-Islami Emir Senator Sirajul Haq, patron-in-chief of Ansarul Ummah Maulana Fazlur Reham Khalil, Abdullah Gul (son of late Hamid Gul), deputy ambassador of Turkey Yaseen, Pakistan Shariat Council chief Fidaur Rehman, Hafiz Hussain Ahmad, Qari Mohammad Usman of Karachi, JI’s provincial chief Mushtaq Ahamd Khan and Yaqoub Sheikh of Jammatud Dawa.

List includes a Who's who of the keepers of the faith,in Pakiland.

Hafiz Mohammad Saeed said America was trying to hide its defeat in Afghanistan by calling for action against the Haqqani network.

I would like to side with the Mullahs on this one ! By no stretch of the imagination, can one objective observer define Pakistan as a "liberal country"

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 15 Nov 2015 00:11

http://nation.com.pk/national/14-Nov-20 ... to-convert
13-year-old Christian girl forced to convert

LAHORE – Thirteen-year-old Christian girl Sana, daughter of Shahid Jaan has been forced to convert to Islam and then married to one 21-year-old Waheed Akhtar, son of Muhammad Bashir in New Miana Pura West area of Sialkot. “The lawyer of the accused has contacted us on phone and sent a written request as well. He has told us that they have got pre-arrest bails from the court and would join the investigation on Monday. The girl is 15 years old. She first converted to Islam and then married Waheed,”
Sana is a student of class V and studying in the Government Primary Girls School also in Mianapura area. Her sister Hina is also studying in the same class. They are three sisters and three brothers.Shahid Jaan said he was a labourer and came to know of the incident when he came home in the evening. “I was shocked to hear the news. My legs were trembling when I heard what had happened. Hina was accompanying Sana on her way back from school. Waheed Akhtar forcibly took her away. Hina came back to home and informed the family. We went to Waheed Akhtar’s house, which is also in the vicinity. Waheed and his father are butchers by profession. They kept saying that Waheed will be back soon but when he did not turn up I went to police station and registered my complaint,” he said. On a query about Sana’s age Shahid said she was not an adult. “She was born on April 17, 2002, which means that she cannot get married of her own free will. The age can be confirmed from NADRA as well as school record. We hope we will get justice as this is a barbaric act and should be condemned by everyone. I trust my daughter and believe that she was forced to convert,” he said.The girl’s grandfather William John was very disturbed. “This incident has the whole house disturbed. Think of how the other children are coping with this situation. It is bad that I am alive to witness this day. It should not have happened,” he said.Many such incidents have been reported in the past. The government needs to develop a mechanism to stop such incidents in future.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 15 Nov 2015 05:47

CRamS wrote:TSP claims kirket is on

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/75 ... -pcb-chief

But India denies it

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 782028.cms

Don't know whom to believe. But something seems cooking. I don't know why BCCI or govt of India simply cannot come out and say, bring perpetrators of 26/11 to justice, and then lets talk about kirket. Also, depressing, if these reports have any credibility, the disagreements if any, are more about revenue sharing, and not about terror.

Please give me back the 90 seconds of my life I wasted in reading the two news items. Maybe my fault for having paid attention to your post. Both reports state what some PCB guy said. One is in a Paki paper and the other in a semi Pakistani paper. What is your exact problem? Not that I will try and solve it but the post was a waste of my time and was therefore an intrusion on my freedom.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 Nov 2015 06:06

^^^ Indeed, it is your fault DoCJi

. You always have the option of IGNORE, but you chose not to. Thats your problem, not mine.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 15 Nov 2015 06:21

http://www.dawn.com/news/1219646/genera ... -the-table
Upcoming President Raheel's US visit: What's on the table

Prime Minister Nawaz agreed last month to help Afghanistan re-start the talks, but Washington's concerns over the collapse of negotiations are “casting a shadow over the general's coming visit”, Hussain wrote this week.Masood, a retired lieutenant general, noted the unusual circumstances surrounding the trip.
“It's not that the Americans have invited him but he has invited himself,” he said, adding that it would be General Raheel’s second visit this year.“Normally this doesn't happen.”It signals the “importance of the problems that both countries seem to be facing in the region and especially because of the Afghan situation”, he said.A military statement issued this week said that General Raheel will use the US trip to “clearly highlight Pakistan's perspective of new emerging regional realities”, in what some saw as implied criticism of the failure of Prime Minister Nawaz’s government to take long-term steps to tackle extremism.But other sources downplayed the significance of the question over who instigated the visit, with one security official saying all that matters is that the discussions are taking place, “even if we have proposed these meetings”.Issues such as Pakistan's nuclear weapons are being handled “by the military only”, he said, so it was natural for the army to want to talk to its US counterparts.“Our political leaders are not even aware of the strength of our nuclear weapons... They are also unaware of military needs and other operational details,” he said.“We understand that international powers and India have concerns about our short range smaller nuclear warhead weapons,” a second security official said, adding that the US is expected to raise the issue with General Raheel.The general will argue that Pakistan must maintain its nuclear capability to combat the threat from India, he said.

arun · Post by **arun** » 15 Nov 2015 07:20

Falijee wrote:Maulvis Attack Ganja Sharif For Calling Pakiland A Liberal Country
Religious leaders criticise PM for calling Pakistan ‘liberal’

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The programme was attended, among others, by Jamaat-i-Islami Emir Senator Sirajul Haq, patron-in-chief of Ansarul Ummah Maulana Fazlur Reham Khalil, Abdullah Gul (son of late Hamid Gul), deputy ambassador of Turkey Yaseen, Pakistan Shariat Council chief Fidaur Rehman, Hafiz Hussain Ahmad, Qari Mohammad Usman of Karachi, JI’s provincial chief Mushtaq Ahamd Khan and Yaqoub Sheikh of Jammatud Dawa.
List includes a Who's who of the keepers of the faith,in Pakiland.

Hafiz Mohammad Saeed said America was trying to hide its defeat in Afghanistan by calling for action against the Haqqani network.
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Presence of Deputy Ambassador of Turkey at an event where UN Designated Terrorist, Hafiz Mohammad Saeed was also present must be raised and strongly protested by our Prime Minister Narendra Modi with his Turkish hosts during his present visit to that country for the G-20 Summit at Antalya.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 15 Nov 2015 07:21

From the BBC:
Why is Pakistan's army chief all over social media?

Is the army general more popular than the prime minister in Pakistan and what does that means for democracy? BBC Urdu's Amber Shamsi investigates.

Just off the main road between the political capital and army headquarters lies a ramshackle set of houses.
They're new builds but shoddily constructed. The mosque is no different.
But it has a grand title - it has been named after Pakistan's current army chief General Raheel Sharif.
"We want General Raheel Sharif to help us catch the land grabbers and land mafia," says a young bearded man on his way to prayers.
Many Pakistanis seem to see General Raheel Sharif as a messiah who is saving the country from terrorism, corruption and all manner of social ills.

Looks like the man is becoming the new mahdi of Pakistan.