The Levant crisis.(Israel,SYRIA,Lebanon,etc)

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 07:07

note the badr, IRGC and hezbollah

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 07:08

http://www.modernfrontlines.com/wp-cont ... -Nov23.png

southern aleppo rebel counteroffensive and units.

habal · Post by **habal** » 24 Nov 2015 07:10

passport of syrian rebel killed in latakia

who is this ??
options

1. moderate tourist
2. moderate rebel
3. moderate saudi
4. moderate beheader
5. bushman

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 07:11

CDG task force.

http://www.modernfrontlines.com/wp-cont ... 2x1024.png

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 07:13

^^ I wonder why they did not leave the hawkeyes behind at home, and also dump the super etendards to pack in more Rafale-M?

if at all AWACS cover is needed, it can be easily arranged by flying the same hawkeyes from turkey/greece/cyprus/jordan or calling in one of the 20 or so NATO E3.

shows a lack of seriousness in putting heat on target. no reports of more rafales to fly from jordan either.

when UK went to war in falklands both the invincible and hermes were packed to the gunwales with anything that would fit.
26 harriers and 10 sea kings were packed onto hermes. french want to wage war on a 2-days off in the weekend basis and enjoy their delightful breads, fruit and cheese with wine every morning .

here the invincible returns to a hero's welcome.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 07:15

Canada, which has agreed to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year, will reportedly limit the immigration flow to single women and families, refusing to accept single males in the wake of the Paris Friday 13 bombings.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 24 Nov 2015 07:18

Blame game started but as these guys are extremely allergic to anything that resembles truth, it will never come and will no doubt result in further mess.

Analysts Accuse CENTCOM of Covering Up Cooked ISIS Intelligence - Nov 23, 2015

“I don’t know what we’ll discover with respect to what was going on in CENTCOM,” Obama said, responding to a report about the investigation in The New York Times. “What I do know is my expectation—which is the highest fidelity to facts, data, the truth.”

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 24 Nov 2015 07:39

Wonder what Putin has planned for the terror sponsoring Arab kings in the ME. There will be some form of payback at their doorstep too.

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 24 Nov 2015 07:43

Singha wrote:Canada, which has agreed to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year, will reportedly limit the immigration flow to single women and families, refusing to accept single males in the wake of the Paris Friday 13 bombings.

Amazing! This was the first solution that occurred to me when the crisis stayed. Good idea this...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 08:00

^^ there are plenty of jihadi wives though. and quite useful for logistical tasks as they arouse less scrutiny.

Tu160 refuels over the caspian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9M06fMKmP4

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Nov 2015 08:39

But why paint in White, do they think these aircraft have such huge radar and IR Signatures and thier Bases are safe from close in enemy aircraft, that it is fine if they are fully visible?

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 24 Nov 2015 09:04

Cain Marko wrote:
Singha wrote:Canada, which has agreed to take in 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year, will reportedly limit the immigration flow to single women and families, refusing to accept single males in the wake of the Paris Friday 13 bombings.
Amazing! This was the first solution that occurred to me when the crisis stayed. Good idea this...

Canadians are habitual....it (was) not uncommon to see canadian males in late 40s and 50s keep (or marry) young chinese females. Now they want Syrians (young) single females.

habal · Post by **habal** » 24 Nov 2015 09:11

Delivery of S-300 air defence systems to Tehran begins – ambassador
Published time: 23 Nov, 2015 20:49
Edited time: 23 Nov, 2015 21:01

https://www.rt.com/news/323184-iran-s-3 ... -underway/

Published time: 23 Nov, 2015 20:49
Edited time: 23 Nov, 2015 21:01
An S300PMU2 "Favorite" anti-aircraft missile © Ruslan Krivobok

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The delivery of Russian S-300 anti-missile rocket systems to Iran has started, Iran’s ambassador to Moscow said in an interview. Iran is getting one of the latest versions of the air defence complex.
The delivery is underway, ambassador Mehdi Sanaei told Persian-language daily, Etemaad, as cited by Tasnim news agency.

The news was not welcome in Washington, with US State Department spokesman Mark Toner reiterating the US stance on the issue in a briefing on Monday.

“We made clear time and again our objections to any sale of the S-300 missile system to Iran,” Toner told reporters.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 24 Nov 2015 09:48

Aditya_V wrote:But why paint in White, do they think these aircraft have such huge radar and IR Signatures and thier Bases are safe from close in enemy aircraft, that it is fine if they are fully visible?

Probably to make a point that they are White Swan as Russians call it and not Blackjack as NATO does

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 10:16

Yemen eastern province is being allowed to drift out of any control and under "AQ" control as to prepare a refuge away from bear claws of the remnants of daesh and their leadership.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 24 Nov 2015 11:28

Spokesman? Defense Minister? CNN brands ISIS terrorists as ‘officials’

https://www.rt.com/news/323211-cnn-call ... officials/

habal · Post by **habal** » 24 Nov 2015 12:09

recognised by State Dept

supported by CIA

thus ISIS officials.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 24 Nov 2015 12:47

Looks like Mig-29 to me ?

Unidentified Plane Crashes in Syria on Border With Turkey - Turkish TV

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151 ... z3sOYCuARC

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 13:01

Mahin is liberated in east Homs. next town is Quraytyn in the desert. pics in captured town also posted by SAA ... its also a desert town of sorts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUfhaZ-WEAA64bm.jpg:large

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Nov 2015 13:06

Austin wrote:Looks like Mig-29 to me ?

Unidentified Plane Crashes in Syria on Border With Turkey - Turkish TV

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151 ... z3sOYCuARC

Looks like a F-16 to my untrained eye.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 24 Nov 2015 13:11

News_Executive ‏@News_Executive

- BREAKING: Turkish Military says a foreign fighter jet has been shot down on its border with #Syria after it violated Turkish airspace.
-MORE: The pilot reportedly ejected the jet and landed safely according to reports in #Turkey
- UPDATE: The foreign fighter jet looks like a Russian Sukhoi Su-24, #Turkey is consulting it's #Nato allies currently

The ejected pilots are under Turkish custody. Turkey has again raked up old Turkish-Slavic rivalry again.

Added later

Yannis Koutsomitis ‏@YanniKouts

#Syria RT @intlspectator CONFIRMED: Jet shot down by Turkish F-16 was Russian Su-24, flown by Russian pilots.

habal · Post by **habal** » 24 Nov 2015 13:16

Erdogan's tanker's all burned up. Last count 1000 of them were destroyed. Must be feeling the pain.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 24 Nov 2015 13:27

Russian Su-24 fighter jet shot over Syria - Russian MoD (VIDEO)

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 13:33

see-saw hard battles going on in south aleppo countryside - jihadis have massed together and counter attacked on multiple points. latest reports speak of some 9 villages/hills retaken.

due north of aleppo, YPG attacked highway near Azaz and took control before FSA claims to have chased them off again.

Govt continues to make progress in latakia into the mountains as rebels have depleted those fronts to try and recover land lost in aleppo.

palmyra attacks also continue.

habal · Post by **habal** » 24 Nov 2015 13:36

Once Latakia is blocked, the rebels have no way to replenish. So taking or giving up territory is merely academic, rebels will lose territory that they have taken in very short time. And all the while they are constantly losing force while attempting to hold on to land, especially which is not going to be replaced. SAA can even tactically retreat and allow the rebels to mass up so that they can be targeted from air.

blocking Latakia border with Turkey is key.

here is short account of how Syrian approach was towards western tourist before the NATO-sponsored civil unrest broke out.

Syria before the crisis - a first hand account by Steve Cox [via Janice Kortkamp, Facebook]
* * * * *

When I traveled to Syria in 2009, I entered the country without any Syrian money. I crossed into Syria in a very small border town with no banks, no ATMs, no way at all for me to exchange money. No problem, they said. They made sure I got on the correct cross-country bus to my destination -Aleppo, they shared their food with me on the long trip, knowing I had none, they went out of their way to make sure I was cared for, and even gave me an ice cream to beat the heat.
When I arrived in Aleppo, and was finally able to visit an ATM, the bills it dispensed were too large for a falafel-seller to take. He asked where I was from:
"America" I said.
"For you, no charge," he said. "Americans do not pay."
I felt terrible that he was losing money on me simply because, in a sense, I had too much to give him.
The next night, I went back to get another falafel. This time I was fully prepared with only small change, to ensure I could pay for both nights' falafels. When I went to pay, he again refused to take my money. "I told you, Americans do not pay. We love Americans." and despite several attempts, he really really refused to let me pay him.
Throughout my travels in Syria I met nothing but the kindest, most caring, well-educated people who were always concerned with my well-being and happiness. it was one of the safest feelings I've ever had. I knew that if I fell, everyone would come over to help me get back on my feet.
It breaks my heart to know that the Syria I experienced is gone - possibly forever. How many of the people who bestowed their incredible kindness on me are dead today? How many of the irreplaceable artifacts of our shared earliest civilizations have been destroyed out of hate and malice and ignorance?
And after all that kindness and assistance was given to me for no reason other than the fact that I needed it, I feel powerless to repay that debt when they need it so desperately.
Today, I'm hearing about US governors who want to refuse to allow refugees into their states, for fear that they might be terrorists. While I sympathize with the desire to keep our communities safe from harm, it sickens me to think that out of fear, a nation as great as ours claims to be would refuse these most-desperate and most-in-need people a safe place to try to stabilize their lives and prevent an entire generation of people from the region from being forever lost.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 24 Nov 2015 13:38

something strikes me about these videos on liveleak - there is an awful lot of random shooting and milling around. where are the 'normal' infantry manoeuvres and procedures? this is all teenage boy video game and mijjile maalish nonsense

wonder why those two fat boys were shot out of hand? would have thought they would have been put on camera to sing for their supper?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 13:41

turkey doing its bit to support the turkoman militias it has been pushing in to create a safe buffer zone for its munnas in north syria.

they are pissed in latakia near the coast the govt has reached the turkish border and threatening to peel off more such "green" border in the interior.

>>something strikes me about these videos on liveleak - there is an awful lot of random shooting and milling around. where are the 'normal' infantry manoeuvres and procedures?

as I have said before, this _is_ the new normal. a good infantryman would take atleast 12 months of training with his unit and proper officer chain. you got to use the resources you have and this is what they can do, you go to give the boys a long rope and "guide" them in the general direction.....do not expect crisp sharp command chain here.

look at the sheer amt of ammo they fired without hiting either of the fatcats from some 150meters away.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 24 Nov 2015 13:44

i reckon i could have downed the 2 fatties from the first contact as they wobbled off

ofcourse in such open terrain, where the hell are you going to go?!?!

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 24 Nov 2015 13:46

Looks like Ground Fire Brought it down according to MOD, Pilot Ejected but unknown

http://ria.ru/world/20151124/1327398423.html

The video indicates engine flameout

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 24 Nov 2015 13:46

Singha wrote:note the badr, IRGC and hezbollah

A very general rule: Shia Islamist flags have Green & Yellow in them.Sunni Islamist ones don't have Yellow - rather Green,White, Black colours.
http://www.type63.com/2015/10/green-and ... -shia.html

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Nov 2015 13:48

So Putin is going to suck a Nato country shooting an aircraft of his and Jailing his Pilots?

habal · Post by **habal** » 24 Nov 2015 13:48

this is militia and not infantry so there will be no infantry protocol observed here. Training can vary from 2 weeks to the 'highest of 6 months'. Closest approximation to South Asian context would be TTP, Afghan Taliban or even MQM militant wing.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 13:50

habal · Post by **habal** » 24 Nov 2015 13:51

Aditya_V wrote:So Putin is going to suck a Nato country shooting an aircraft of his and Jailing his Pilots?

I wager nothing will happen in immidiate future. But Qatar & Turkey should be wary.

these two countries are stuck deep in Syrian quagmire, and they are first to feel the pain.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 13:53

how exactly does ground fire target a plane that is @ 18,000ft ?
this is way above Stinger ceiling.

has to be either a accident(flameout etc), patriot SAM or a AAM.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 13:54

Putin wont get diverted by this. he will just keep doing what he is doing.

member_29172 · Post by **member_29172** » 24 Nov 2015 13:55

I hope ww3 starts it's about time

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Nov 2015 13:56

Habal sir, you forgot barbaria. It funded most of the ISIS type activities.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Nov 2015 13:56

John Kyle
time to start nutrualizing turkey!! bomb them back to the stoneage
Like · Reply · 2 · 27 mins

Ross A-nderson · University of Canterbury
they ARE in the stone age Just NATO makes them a little upmarket!!!!

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 24 Nov 2015 14:19

habal wrote:this is militia and not infantry so there will be no infantry protocol observed here. Training can vary from 2 weeks to the 'highest of 6 months'. Closest approximation to South Asian context would be TTP, Afghan Taliban or even MQM militant wing.

yes sir, i am aware. was remarking on the incredible waste of resources. there was also the weekend warriors from doha and abu dhabi issue we saw in the first stages of the war, fatties strike me as kebab munching mall brats from barbaria come out for some R&R and got pest-e-shaheeded