Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 25 Nov 2015 20:47

shiv wrote:
SSridhar wrote:TimesNow is reporting that the BCCI has asked GoI formally for permission to go ahead with the cricket series against Pakistan to be hosted in Sri Lanka.

As a person who has consistently felt that every avenue must be used to strangulate Pakistan including cutting off all political, military, cultural, sports and other contacts unless Pakistan verifiably stops its terrorism against us, I hope that the GoI takes the correct decision.
So things like home advantage, home crowd and preparation of pitches for home matches are hit for a six so that PCB and terrorists can make more money. This is actually one more reason for me to hate cricket.

I stopped watching that game recently. I refuse to discuss anything about that game with my friends. I consider it as a colonial hangover.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 25 Nov 2015 22:27

The Pakistanis are making a very bad mistake with these pin-prick attacks on the LoC, and certain diversionary tactics. I sincerely hope better sense prevails on their side.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 25 Nov 2015 23:21

Have we had such a string of encounters before this late, in Nov before?

Rohit_K · Post by **Rohit_K** » 25 Nov 2015 23:29

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Bibles burnt as office of Christian TV channel 'Gawahi' is burnt down in the Pakistani city of Karachi

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Christian Gospel prod TV channel Gawahi's office burns down in Azam Basti, #Karachi, no media coverage at all Shame!

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nirav · Post by **nirav** » 25 Nov 2015 23:51

LokeshC wrote:
I stopped watching that game recently. I refuse to discuss anything about that game with my friends. I consider it as a colonial hangover.

What be LokeshC Saar ?

If desh never gets to play the Packees, we will never get to view asswhuppings like this.. That too of TFTA Shoaib Akhtars by SDRE Bhajjis

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 26 Nov 2015 00:07

Paki COAS visits Brazil Army Headquarters

RIO DE JANEIRO: Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif visited the Brazil Army Headquarters on Tuesday.....

Can some forum members have any idea as to why "Bad Sharif", according to his propangandu unit (ISPR) being glorified/ lionized in Brazil of all places ?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 26 Nov 2015 00:16

Pakistan to invite PayPal, Alibaba to start e-commerce services

AFP — Published about 3 hours ago

The operative word is "to invite" i.e. first a formal invitation is yet to be made; secondly, with rampart corruption, embezzlement, poor infrastructure, no safeguards for buyer or seller, it remains to be seen whether the so-called offer will be touched by a ten foot pole !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 26 Nov 2015 00:25

Pakistan's "Prestigious" Lahore University Of Management Sciences (LUMS) Decides To Play Safe And Not Be On The Wrong Side Of The Mullahs

The college's conference on Muslim Intellectual Tradition didn't feature a single female scholar. People are protesting

So, Ganja's dream of a "liberal Pakistan" in the making is already going up in smokes and the Mullahs are making good on their threat to ensure " a greener society" for Pakiland !

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Nov 2015 00:31

God knows! I go to translate.google.com, translate my search terms into Portuguese, e.g.,
"raheel sharif sede do exército brasil" (raheel sharif army headquarters brazil), and then go to http://www.google.com.br and execute a search and find nothing (except Pakistani news-sources)

From Brazil, only a November 21st article translated fro the New York Times, namely this one:
http://noticias.uol.com.br/internaciona ... espaco.htm

I'm probably not doing it right, but I'd have thought I'd get some hits. Seems to be an utter non-event in Brazil.

Someone else want to try the experiment? Works best in Google Chrome.

PS: Looking for news related to "Jose Carlos De Nardi" , I found this news-item about East Timor from Oct 29. Nothing about Pakistan.
http://www.mundolusiada.com.br/cplp/em- ... -o-brasil/

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Nov 2015 00:45

^^^ Finally something, but very little:
http://www.defesa.gov.br/?option=com_co ... e&id=17492

Agenda for Monday, November 23, 2015

Print out
The Chief of Joint Staff of the Armed Forces, Army General Jose Carlos De Nardi, we must work agenda in Brasilia (DF):

09h30 - Order with Chief EMCFA's Office.

14:15 - Audience with Gen Raheel Sharif, Pakistan Army Commander.

15h15 - 18h - Orders Internal.

Original:

Agenda para segunda-feira, 23 de novembro de 2015

Imprimir
O Chefe do Estado-Maior Conjunto das Forças Armadas, General de Exército José Carlos De Nardi, cumpre agenda de trabalho em Brasília (DF):

09h30 - Despacho com o Chefe do Gabinete do EMCFA.

14h15 - Audiência com o Gen Raheel Sharif, Comandante do Exército do Paquistão.

15h15 - 18h - Despachos Internos.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 26 Nov 2015 00:49

Paki Pakhtun Delegation Off To Afghanistan To Placate Afghan Leadership

PESHAWAR/KABUL: Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's (KP) top political leadership will leave for Afghanistan on Thursday to meet the neighbouring country's leadership on a two-day visit in an attempt to promote peace in the region.
The Pakistani delegation will be led by leaders of three top political parties of KP, namely Awami National Party's (ANP) Asfandyar Wali, Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party's (PkMAP) Mehmood Khan Achakzai and Qaumi Watan Party's (QWP) Aftab Sherpao.

Kaptaan's party, ruling KP province not represented; probably considered ISI proxies by Afghan Govt

"We will meet their political leadership and discuss all outstanding issues including terrorism," said Sikandar.

Hope the genocide of innocent Pakhtuns in the name of "fighting terrorism" and an independant Pashtunistan will also be addressed

The second round of the talks, which was scheduled to be held in Pakistan on July 31, 2015, was postponed in view of the reports regarding the death of Mulla Omar and the leadership crisis among Taliban.

The Afghans were "mad" re Mullah Omar's death deception, so say the least ; Pakis cannot be trusted; hence this delegation to salvage the damage created, and assurances given to Massa, on the "peace brokering", and the usual platitudes of "Pakistan wanting good brotherly relations with Afghanistan"

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Nov 2015 03:17

OK KLNMurthyJi, I need your help in interpreting this report. A_GuptaJi, you can too if you have the patience. First of all, if you feel that TNN is a Paki news implant, don't waste your time reading any further. However, while I would not take TNN's report and quotes as unadulterated truth, nevertheless, given that there are kirket negotiations going on between India & TSP, there are elements in this report I take note of.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 927877.cms

Some choice quotes. First, there is some govt policy on kirket resumption and it is centered on TSP's terror

The government is examining BCCI's request for a green signal for the Indian cricket team to play Pakistan in Sri Lanka in December, amid indications that Islamabad's continuing support to terror groups will be a major factor in shaping the decision.

"We have to take into account what impact our decision can have on the morale of the country when there is no let-up in support for terrorists from across the border," a top-ranking government functionary told TOI just after BCCI confirmed that it had approached the Centre for its clearance.

It is understandable that BCCI has to at least make some noises about honoring ICC commitments.

BCCI secretary Anurag Thakur said on Wednesday that the board had made a formal request to the ministry of external affairs (MEA) on Tuesday, seeking clearance to play Pakistan. He emphasised that given its adherence to ICC's Futures Tour Programme, BCCI was committed to playing Pakistan "in UAE or at any other neutral venue if the conditions in Pakistan were not suitable".

And for those who feel govt of India cannot dictate to BCCI:

However, sources in the government made it plain that the commitments and compulsions of the BCCI will not be the sole determining factor of whether government wants to revive cricketing ties with the hostile neighbour. "We have an open mind, no doubt. But the fact remains that the BCCI's revenues will not be a factor. We have to look at the larger picture; especially how it is going to be interpreted by the Pakistani establishment which continues to use terrorism in a bid to coerce India into making concessions," said the senior government functionary.

Citing the terrorist attack on an army base in J&K earlier in the day, he said that state actors in Pakistan had stepped up support to terrorist groups, widening the arc of their focus to Punjab. "These cannot be divorced from what decision we take on whether to play cricket with Pakistan or not."

And I am gratified to see govt of India take a tough line, and hope they scuttle this disgusting spectacle of kirket resumption with a terorist abomination

Saying the clearance was not a "done deal", he drew a parallel with the deliberations within the government over who should represent India at the "Heart of Asia" conference scheduled for December 7-8 in Pakistan. Pakistan had invited foreign minister Sushma Swaraj, but sources said the level of India's representation was yet to be worked out.

The rest of the report is mostly Paki BS, not worth discussing.

Bottom line: I cannot believe we wasted so much time discussing whether or not resuming kirket with TSP is an Indian govt policy decision, whether all this talk is just fiction, Paki lies you name it, whether govt of India has influence on BCCI or not, and above all this takes the cake: discussing and opposing kirket resumption with TSP is somehow tantamount to "kirket fans slimily wanting to discuss kirket".

BTW: KLM, when you asked me the other day to cite a document govt policy on kirket resumption with TSP linked with TSP terror, or govt officials citing the same, I could not cite anything specific, but believe me over the past several months, I have read reports such as the one above, and hence my claims.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Nov 2015 03:38

Amreeka conspiring to use Nooke in Yemen: @20.
Meet the Most Master Minds of Bakistan

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Nov 2015 04:15

Not at all what your point is, CRamS. I think KLNM already explained it perfectly.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Nov 2015 05:17

A_GuptaJi, he sure did, and I do accept quite a bit of his analysis, for e.g. it does seem BCCI is doing what it wants and then seeking GoI approval. I thought BCCI wouldn't be going around cutting deals with TSP if it didn't have some tacit approval from GoI. But from the report you posted, and from the above, GoI does seem to have a "policy" on not resuming kirket with TSP while terror rages. Whether or nor not it meets yours or KLNM's definition of policy, is another matter. But I do hope and pray that GoI pulls the plug on BCCI.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Nov 2015 06:12

Reposting

Watch again and recall what was done to us in the name of Islam on 26/11 of 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QehgTIOmkmQ

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Nov 2015 08:53

A_Gupta wrote:God knows! I go to translate.google.com, translate my search terms into Portuguese, e.g.,
"raheel sharif sede do exército brasil" (raheel sharif army headquarters brazil), and then go to http://www.google.com.br and execute a search and find nothing (except Pakistani news-sources)

Someone else want to try the experiment? Works best in Google Chrome.

PS: Looking for news related to "Jose Carlos De Nardi" , I found this news-item about East Timor from Oct 29. Nothing about Pakistan.
http://www.mundolusiada.com.br/cplp/em- ... -o-brasil/

Google and Yahoo are throwing up exactly the same Paki news items and a couple from the gulf. Tried Bing and got this
Crumbling Democracy in Pakistan - Nov 24

Within few hours of conclusion of Pakistan army chief, General Raheel Sharif's controversial five day visit (November 17-21, 2015) to the USA and from there his proceeding to Brazil, Nawaz Sharif, while addressing a public rally (Khanewal-Multan, November 22, 2015) virtually beg to the army not to stage another coup against him by claiming that dismissal of his civilian governments in 1993 and 1999 had halted progress in the country.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Nov 2015 12:56

Nawaz Sharif allows Pakistan allowed to play against India in Sri Lanka - ET

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has given the green light for the country's cricket team to play a limited-overs series against India in Sri Lanka next month, Pakistan media reported Thursday.

Private television channel Geo News says Sharif told the Pakistan Cricket Board that it could send a team to play against India at a neutral venue.

26/11/2008: Never Forget. Never Forgive.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Nov 2015 17:44

Islamabad, Beijing all-weather strategic partners now: China - DT

So, what is new?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Nov 2015 18:44

Hafiz Saeed preaching terror in connivance with Pakistani security forces: BSF - PTI

Jamaat-ud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed is touring terrorist camps along the border and "repeatedly provoking" militants to carry out attacks in India, BSF today said and alleged connivance of the Pakistani security forces in the campaign of the 26/11 mastermind.

Pakistan's security forces are allowing Saeed to "openly operate" in the border areas to indoctrinate terrorist groups, Inspector General (IG) of BSF, Jammu Frontier, Rakesh Sharma told reporters here [Jammu] today.

"You saw Hafiz Saeed has been repeatedly provoking terrorists. Recently inputs have come that motivational speeches are being delivered in the terrorist camps and launching pads that we have to engineer terror acts (across the border in this side)," Sharma said.

The BSF IG was replying to a question whether the terror infrastructure across the border has increased.

"There has been an increase in such activities across the border. Motivational talks and provocative speeches by preachers have increased," Sharma said.

"He (Hafiz Saeed) has been engaged in motivational speeches. He has been seen doing this in Sialkote and some other areas, and he is visiting various parts of Pakistan," he added.

Sharma said,"There was news last year that he (Saeed) was seen close to IB in Sialkote sector. He is indoctrinating the youth and terrorist groups and motivating them to do something (engineer terrorist acts in India)."

Replying to question whether there was a nexus between Pakistan Army and Saeed on the borders, the IG said, "If any security force does not want something to happen in its area of operation along the borders...definitely it forces its own will.

"If it (will) is not been forced and Hafiz Saeed can openly operate in the border areas... It is clear indication of involvement of Pakistan's security forces."

"If they are interested in maintaining peace and tranquillity on the border and do not want to disturb it, they should stop him. They are not stopping him that is clearly evident of their involvement," IG said.

The BSF officer said that terror infrastructure is intact in Pakistan.

"The number of the training camps and launching pads are the same. The terror infrastructure is totally intact in Pakistan and terrorists are there," the IG said.

Sharma said, "Increasing and decreasing of terrorists in the camps depend upon their strategy and planned to shift them to left or right to put pressures."

On the question that Pakistan is building a BAT force with recruitment of criminals, prisoners and militants along the border line, the IG said "This has been their past trend also. They have always used convicted people and other prisoners with criminal records and trained them and used in militancy on the promise that you will be freed. Pakistan is using them."

member_29247 · Post by **member_29247** » 26 Nov 2015 19:13

If one can not boycott TSP cricket as declared policy of BCCI
What can we infer other than that GOI be it under SG/ MMS or NaMo does not even have an iota of strategy as to how to tackle TSP at economic level leave alone aar par ladyee

Meanwhile every bag of basmati rice made in TSP even though cheaper by $1.50 a ten pound bag, or shirts at KHols made in TSP are boycotted by my family. anything made in TSP is person no grata , I even dissuade people trying to buy in any India stores

This boycott fat way was issued here after Kargil War by Bradmins is being still followed by US in all our family circles, where ABV /LK themselves started importing TSP chele I aka sugar long back

So much for our laser like focus on dealing terror, than God the fax machines are not whirring any more since LK left

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 26 Nov 2015 19:42

The afghans have to be extra careful.
Everytime a Paki delegation has visited Kabul, the ISI has sent its own terror delegation right afterwards.
The Pakis being Pakis, and filled with foul smelling Pakistaniyat, like to think that sending a peace delegation will somehow lull the opponent, and so a terrorist attack right afterward will be more successful. The ISI just likes to be sneaky and slimy, and indulge in haramkhori.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Nov 2015 19:47

SpinsterJJi, I don't even want to post what that IPL chief Rajeev Shukla of Cong said about resuming kirket, it will make people's blood boil here. Also, not that I credit BCCI with anything, but at least Anurag Thakur is a tad nuanced and does refer to TSP terror. This Shukla guy talks like a typical Paki, about the need to "separate politics from kirket". Disgusting.

Last night saw a "debate" on this kirket resumption. Former India captain Saurav Ganguly wants resumption, and his reasoning was bogus, so can't take him seriously. But surprisingly a former Indian army big-wig, forget his name, he is a regular on Indian TV, was furious about the latest terror attack in J&K, kept firing away that India has a big army, ModiJi has a huge mandate etc etc, and instead of talking about "kirket", India must "forcefully tackle terror", whatever that means. In other words, he seemed to also endorse or at least didn't care one way or the other.

Eagerly waiting to see what govt of India's decision is going to be (ModiJi/Sushma/Rajnath/Jaitly etc will be taking the call next 24 hours or so).

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 26 Nov 2015 19:54

My guess is, GOI is having fun at the expense of pakis and its supporters. If Kirket happens with GOI approval, it means there is a deep chankiyan ploy just like sharm-el-sheikh transcribe episode.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 26 Nov 2015 20:05

Chankian -> Lifeline to beleaguered Nawaz? Now spin away!

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Nov 2015 20:09

If ModiJi gives the green signal, there are a few piskoligical victories TSP will claim:

1. India backed down from its stance and resumed kirket
2. White bahadurs from ECB were the mediators, and thats what resolved the impasse, and so as a successful template, White bahaduir mediation is needed to resolve other "core issues" also
3. They will by convinced tha they can continue their terror policy, at least in J&K, and then work with their 5th columnists in India to chip away at India's stance on no composite talks until terror stops, and India puts J&K on the table for discussion (this is essentially Cong's position, and possibly others' in India's opposition)

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 26 Nov 2015 20:12

miyaa nawaz sharief, has many lives like a billi. The last time kirket happened was in 2007, nothing much has changed for better for kirket to resume. However, it is good to let nawaz sharief to day dream (yes even a paki is allowed to have one - how long can he allow himself to be satisfied with wet dreams of flag on lal qila). Kirket not going to happen this season or coming one anytime soon.

ManishC · Post by **ManishC** » 26 Nov 2015 20:58

Comandante do Exército do Paquistão

The Excreting Commandent of Paquistao - I love Portugese

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 26 Nov 2015 21:01

A Christian Television Station Set On Fire In Karachi
So the maulanas are living up to their promise of making sure that Pakhanistan never becomes a Liberal Society(whatever that means in that country !)

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 26 Nov 2015 21:10

Khursheed Shah says Jewish lobby behind terrorism
What better way to rouse the Aam Abduls - the tried and trusted bogeyman for all Pakiland problems-the Jewish lobby.
Should he have not included the Hindu/India Lobby -but come to think of it; it makes sense to exclude that category,since Altaf Bhai and MQM have already been "gagged " by the Bad Sharif

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Nov 2015 21:22

Cross post

mchilian wrote:Seems to be long time coming.

Selling self-respect for Money - typical Dhimmi attitude.

Afterall, "development" must be pursued at all costs - even that of self respect.

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http://www.thestatesman.com/news/opinio ... 04639.html
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(posting in full)

That Indian cricket fans should be paying for terrorist attacks against India looms as one of the most strangely ignored or forgotten aspects in the ongoing hectic and covert efforts from the Board of Control for Cricket (BCCI) to resume cricketing ties with Pakistan.

The proposed series was supposedly to take place in December, a few days after the seventh anniversary of the 26/11 terrorist strikes in Mumbai. It does not seem to matter for the BCCI that the perpetrators continue receiving state protection in Pakistan.

Neither does it seem to matter for BCCI boss Shashank Manohar that the Indian government has often accused Pakistan of being a state sponsor of terrorism. Whether terrorists strike in Mumbai or Paris, lives lost in terrorist attacks are merely ‘politics’ apparently for Manohar; and cricket, or more accurately the money earned from it, is the more important thing in the world for the BCCI.

But the deadly problem is with this cricket money churning dirty money. It’s long known and publicized in international media that illegal cricket betting, if not match fixing, hits highs of hundreds of millions of dollars in any India versus Pakistan cricket match anywhere in the world. Large chunks of this cricket betting loot falls into hands of criminal syndicates such as those headed by Interpol-wanted crime boss Dawood Ibrahim, according to reports in public domain.

Media reports on November 16 revealed BCCI chief Manohar’s ‘closed door’ dealings with Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) counterpart Shahriyar Khan, with the BCCI hoping to make a few hundred more crore rupees in the most profitable bilateral series in the cricketing world.

Even as Shahriyar Khan of PCB uses a peculiar mixture of bluster, threats, protests and pleas in his desperate push for a lucrative cricket series versus India in December, the lethal aspect of sub-continental cricketing links to terrorist funding has been remarkably sidelined in both countries.

Terrorists cast a more sinister shadow than the general reckoning of bilateral ties having crashed due to Pakistan shielding those involved in the 26th November 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai. The nexus between South Asian cricket betting mafias and terrorist groups have been exposed alongside betting scandals, such as the 2010 criminal conviction and prison sentences against former Pakistan cricket captain Salman Butt, his team mates Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir.

Dawood Ibrahim, accused as masterminding the 1993 serial bomb blasts in Mumbai, has top level cricket links in Pakistan. His daughter Mahrukh is married to Junaid Miandad, son of former Pakistan cricket captain and ex PCB director general Javed Miandad. Ibrahim and his criminal syndicate ‘D Company’ have been subjected to US sanctions since 16 January 2005.

“The United States is targeting D Company, a violent organization notorious for its drug trafficking activities and terrorism,” announced Adam J. Szubin, Director of the Office of Foreign Assets Control. “Combating transnational organized crime is a top U.S. priority, and we will continue to expose the activities of D Company and the underpinnings of criminal financial networks worldwide.”

This alleged Dawood network in sub-continental cricket compelled my accurate guess that soon after the election of its new president, the BCCI would change its recent unusually firm stance against resuming cricketing ties against Pakistan until it gives up sponsoring terrorism. A certain BCCI boss has close ties to a particular politician whose ‘links’ need to be put under close scrutiny by the government of India and security agencies.

Sure enough, the new BCCI president promptly invited PCB boss Shahryar Khan to Mumbai for ‘talks’. Media reports on November 16 revealed that Shashank Manohar had asked in a ‘closed door’ process if the PCB is willing to play in India. Terrorist groups receiving a share of thousands of crores of illegal cricket betting money will be wishing him all success.

A day earlier on November 15, India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi told the BRICs meeting in Turkey of the urgent global need to cut off funding for terrorists. This focus should include the BCCI. Money laundering, crime syndicates, over US$ 500 million in illegal cricket betting, terrorism all find a common meeting point in Dawood Ibrahim’s ‘D Company’ and his known keen interest in cricket.

In July earlier this year, a Special Investigation Team (SIT) appointed by India’s Supreme Court to probe money laundering also urged the government to formulate laws against cricket betting.

“Involvement of huge illegal, unaccounted money in cricket betting has been noticed by the Enforcement Directorate, where betting is being done over the Internet or using electronic gadgets,” the SIT report said.

Even without illegal cricket betting, big money rules any India versus Pakistan cricket series – with huge stakes for the BCCI, PCB, official broadcasters, media companies and cricket websites that earn millions from premium advertising rates.

Not surprisingly, sections of the Indian media propagate this remarkable myth that a cricket series is somehow going to inspire terrorists to give up their murderous hatred for fellow humans, and a terrorism sponsoring country to stop hosting terrorist training camps.

On the contrary, the only evidence we have seen so far is that any cricket series with Pakistan that sends out the ‘normalization’ signal only leads to the next terrorist attack in India.

Business as usual with Pakistan seems bizarre and contradictory after only this September, in response to Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s speech at the United Nations, India’s UN representative Abhishek Singh called Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism: “The heart of the matter is a state that regards the use of terrorism as a legitimate instrument of statecraft. The world watches with concern as its consequences have spread beyond its immediate neighborhood.”

Amid such concerns, faking normalcy with cultural and sporting ties has not stopped cross-border terrorist attacks, or even cross-border firing from Pakistan that terrorizes thousands of Indian villagers near the border. We shrug our shoulders at all these lives lost and play cricket with the country behind the perpetual outrages? Should the French government organize football matches with the ISIS as part of a ‘peace process’? Insincerity obviously renders meaningless attempts at honest dialogue needed between India and Pakistan to resolve disputes. For this, it needs to be made clear that the responsibility for genuinely meaningful peace talks rests completely with Pakistan - after that country shuts down terrorist camps within its borders.

PCB chief Shahriyar himself saw reality a year ago in September 2014, when he admitted to the media in Karachi, “as far as its repercussions on bilateral (cricket) series is concerned I think these ties will remain affected until there is a closure of the Mumbai attack case in Pakistan.”

Without this closure as a basic for sincere dialogue – starting with shutting down Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorist camps - a cricket series between Indian and Pakistan is engineered more by lure of multi-million dollar profits serving vested interests both sides of the border.

An India-Pakistan cricket series may not please families of dead victims of the 26/11 terrorist attacks in Mumbai, but it definitely promises a few hundred more crores of rupees to this greedy multi-billion dollar, non-transparent commercial enterprise called the BCCI, a desperately-funds starved Pakistan Cricket Board, terrorist financiers and a certain Dawood Ibrahim’s money launderers.

The writer is a senior, Mumbai-based journalist.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Nov 2015 22:13

Ultimately guys, guys like me can criticize BCCI, can criticize govt of India, can criticize WKKs and Delhi and other Indian metro Lutyens, DDM etc, but at the end of the day, all of these aforementioned power brokers can brazenly ignore the sentiments of nationalists, of the loved ones of those killed on 26/11, or soldiers and jawans martyred in J&K etc, only because there is an infinitly larger eunuch Bhajrangi Bhaijaan constituency, the public, who will go gaga over kirket resumption. Of course, leadership means doing what is right for the country despite what the pro-kirket crazies say, and I hope ModiJi stays the course and says NO.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 26 Nov 2015 22:33

I don't buy this line of argument that Indian cricket fans will go gaga over cricket resumption with Pakistan. We do like to beat them but that does not mean we look forward to playing the Pakis. And there is enough opportunity to kick their butt outside the bilateral framework.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 26 Nov 2015 22:48

‘Pakistan will be among top 25 world economies till 2025’

KARACHI – Federal Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal has said that Pakistan is on the path of economic revival and will be among top 25 world economies till 2025.

" Make You Feel Good " Speech , being recycled again, this time by Paki Minister Of Planning

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 26 Nov 2015 22:51

Pictures of leaders of 26/11 attacks:
From link

(L-R) First row: Daood Sayed Gilani aka David Headley, Tahawwur Rana, Hafiz Saeed, Zaki-ur-Rehman-Lakhvi.
Second row: Ilyas Kashmiri, Sajjid Majid and Abdur Rehman Pasha

Names of 10 jihadis: From link
Ismail Khan alias Abu Ismail from Dera
Mohammed Ajmal Amir Iman alias Abu Mujahid from Okara
Hafeez Arshad alias Bada Abdul Rehman from Multan
Javed alias Abu Ali from Okara
Shoaib alias Soheb from Sialkot
Nazeer alias Abu Umer from Faisalabad
Nasir alias Abu Umar from Faisalabad
Babar Imran alias Abu Akasha from Multan
Abdul Rehman alias Abdul Rehman Chhota from Multan
Fahadullah alias Abu Fahad from Okara

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 26 Nov 2015 23:06

Chini Blothers Out - Ameri khans In Re:"White Elephant" Power Plant Management

US company to supervise Nandipur power plant

GUJRANWALA – Operations of Nandipur power project on Thursday were given in supervision of a US company.
General Electric and its subcontractor Albario Engineering Private Ltd has taken charge of the project. At least 144 foreigners (hope that they have imported their own security )have reached the site to manage operations. About 425 megawatts of electricity would be generated through the plant.
It should be mentioned here that Nandipur project’s managing director was sacked few weeks earlier for slackness and poor performance. The government had entered in talks with foreign companies following the MD’s removal from the post. Project director Shahid Suhail was also removed for work shirking.(euphemism for negligence and incompetency?madrassah educated? )
The decision was taken even before the inquiry of alleged malpractices and corruption was called. The decision was taken on advice of the Board of Directors of the GENCO-III, Ministry of Water and Power. The ministry had appointed Shahzada Akbar as the new project director.

Hope that the contractor and the sub-contractor have iron-clad clauses with reference to payment arrangements ; or maybe not, since payments to Ganja, his "clever" brother and his cronies are all factored in the final amounts.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Nov 2015 00:02

Even CRamS will be shamed at the eloquence of Arnab Goswami, Sushan Sarin, Sushil Pandit, Atul Wasan etc in decrying BCCI's decision to resume kirket.

http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-2611Irony ... 483138.cms

Ackk Thoo to those punks like Chinoy and Sadqi batting for TSP.

BTW, what worries me about the above debate is that there was not a single BJP spokesman present. That worries me because could it be that they did not come and have to defend an impending YES decision from their leadership?

Ramu · Post by **Ramu** » 27 Nov 2015 04:07

I always had a suspicion that BCCI is one of the commercial subsidiary of congress party. It needs lot of weeding out to make it a competent national sports authority.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 27 Nov 2015 05:38

CRamS ji and guys (and gals): I heard this Kamal Mitra Chenoy name several times before this debate finally decided to look up who this swA-wAy jnu praforssari saar is. No wikipedia page for the mahAnubhAva but look what I found.

The Citizen (India)[

The Citizen (India)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Citizen is a digital newspaper based in New Delhi, India. It was founded in January 2014 by Indian journalist Seema Mustafa.[1] It was first launched on online platform only and that makes it first online Newspaper in India. It is owned and operated by GSA Azadi Media Pvt Ltd.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Board of advisors
2 Columnists
3 History
4 References
5 External links
Board of advisors[edit]
The paper's board of advisors include former chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Regulatory Board A. Gopalakrishnan, former Indian Chief of Naval Staff Laxminarayan Ramdas, journalist and civil rights activist John Dayal, veteran journalist Inder Malhotra , professor Kamal Mitra Chenoy (our prafessori - PUM - Professor Under uScope) , senior journalist and political commentator Kul~~dip~~bhrasht Nayar, noted historian Mushirul Hasan, senior journalist Pamela Philipose, journalist and author Prem Shankar Jha (this insect seems to be hiding under a rock - where is he now a din?), journalist Shastri Ramachandaranwho? , and journalist Sukumar Muralidharanwho? .[3]
Columnists[edit]
The paper's columnists include journalist and author Alan Hart,[4] Palestinian activist Omar Barghouti,[5] activist Kancha Ilaiah,[6] Pakistani civilian military scientist Ayesha Siddiqa,[7] femi~~nist~~nazi activist Kamla Bhasinwho?,[8] retired Indian army general Syed Ata Hasnain(naya admi ka naam sun raha,[9] journalist Saeed Naqvi,[10] writer Javed Jabbarwho?,[11] former chairperson of the National Commission for Minorities Wajahat Habibullah,[12] filmmaker Anand Patwardhan (of awardwapsi fame),[13] Middle east expert (why do they need one for The Citizen (India), I wonder.) Alon Ben-Meir,[14] Journalist Paranjoy Guha Thakurtawho?,[15] Actor ,Tom Alter(Jennifer Kapoor's bro or Shashi's BIL, right?)[16] Politician Prakash Karat ("big red bindi" beauty's hubby),[17]
Pakistan politician and diplomat Sherry Rehman (Gilani video - not in circulation any more, but we all know what he did),[18] nuclear scientist and national security analyst Pervez Hoodbhoy (the one lone pakistani scientist - what is he doing in the company of all these air-heads?) ,[19] retired Justice and former chairman, Press Council of India Markandey (our favorite rainman judge) Katju, [20] Filipino author and politician, Walden Bello who?, [21] amongst several others.
History[edit]
The paper was launched on January 27, 2014, with Seema Mustafa as its editor-in-chief.
The paper first came into prominence following its coverage on the rape case involving Tarun Tejpal, for which, the paper was mentioned by The Hindu,(Oh mah gawd - mentioned by hindu is being worn as a red badge of courage ) [22] Network of Women in the Media,[23] Feminists India,[24] Scroll,[25] FirstPost,[26] and NDTV.[27]

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 27 Nov 2015 05:41

Falijee JEE: After 2025 what, one would like to know.