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Usual practice - Indic for sure - for newely weds to come to US where one of the couple is a citizen. fiancé visa is valid for immediate travel. The couple comes to massaland where the broom kisses the bride (in Vegas if need be to avoid the waiting time).
On a separate, more aesthetic, note here's a wonderful bit of Americana. Couldn't help but share it. Gorgeous visualisation, conceptualisation, photograpy by Matt Henry
That is really nice stuff. I like that Jim beam/wild turkey photo the most. All that is missing is a couple of Simth and Wessons and a few thousand rounds of soft jackets.
FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday that Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, began scheming to carry out a terror attack long before they were engaged and before she moved to the United States on a fiancee visa last year.
Meanwhile, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said Malik may have given false information on her visa application.
“These two killers were radicalized for quite a long time,” Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday regarding the couple behind last week’s San Bernardino shootings that killed 14 people. “Our investigation to date shows that they were radicalized before they started courting or dating each other online, and as early as the end of 2013, were talking to each other about jihad and martyrdom before they became engaged and married and were living in the U.S.”
Comey added, “We believe they were inspired by foreign organizations. We are working very hard to see if anyone else was involved in assisting, equipping or helping them. And did they have other plans?”
Reuters, citing California marriage documents, reported that Marquez married Mariya Chernyk on Nov. 29 of last year, four months after Farook and Malik began their married life in the United States. Maria Cernyk's sister, Tatiana, is married to Syed Raheel Farook, the shooter's older brother. The documents show that Raheel Farook and Tatiana Cehernyk witnessed the marriage.
The mysterious pal of Syed Rizwan Farook who bought the rifles used in last week's deadly terror attack in Southern California has told authorities Farook aborted an earlier attack, Fox News has learned.
Enrique Marquez, a former neighbor who is reportedly related to Farook by marriage, is cooperating with investigators and has not been named as a suspect in last Wednesday's attack, which left 14 dead and 21 injured in a San Bernardino social services facility. Authorities have so far said they believe Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, are the only known perpetrators of the attack, although Marquez was identified early on as the legal purchaser of the two AR-15 assault rifles used in the attack.
This undated combination of photos shows Tashfeen Malik, left, and Syed Farook. The husband and wife died in a fierce gunbattle with authorities several hours after their commando-style assault on a gathering of Farook's colleagues. (FBI, left, and California Department of Motor Vehicles via AP)
It was not immediately clear when the scuttled attack was planned or what its target was. CNN, citing two U.S. officials, reported earlier Tuesday that Farook and another unidentified individual may have conspired to carry out an attack in 2012. However, one official told CNN that the pair "got spooked" and decided not to go through with their plan after a series of terror-related arrests in Southern California.
Law enforcement sources have also told Fox News that Marquez was in the process of converting to Islam and had begun using an Islamic name, making it more difficult for authorities to get in touch with him. Authorities said Marquez had checked himself into a Los Angeles-area psychiatric facility soon after the shooting.
An official at the Islamic Society of Corona-Norco told The New York Times that Marquez had begun attending services there in 2010 or 2011. The official said Marquez initially came to the mosque once a month, but his attendance later became less frequent. At one point, the official said, Marquez went eight months between visits.
Singha wrote:^^ sire none of the atrocities inflicted on indian kingdoms in the early arab invasion years were by the 'indic rules of war' . things like sparing non-combatant camp followers and farmers, closing battle each day at dusk, no mass enslavement of defeated population, seeking negotiated settlements before onset of war, giving quarter to surrendering foes....sure these were also violated periodically in wars among indian kingdoms but not as a matter of doctrine. the MH and Ramayana is very clear on such matters. even Ravana who had done some wrong things followed the code of war. it was his mayavi son Indrajeet who bent the rules here and there.
scorched earth 'total war' is not a indic invention.
I think we can fall into two traps about past or future: too much romanticism or too much derision. I think the past was more less like the present. Sure, Indian civilization was more civilized then the others perhaps because of nature's bounty. But, even in MB & Raamayana, people did whatever they had to, to win. The world was always like this only.
Just a mental exercise folks: imagine....just imagine and not believe, that Pakis were Patsies in this. If that is so then see how many statements, articles, discussions, blogs etc are being emanated with that kind of line.
How is this all coordinated? Surely part of these things will be PUSH but most will be PULL as it is unrealistic that there may be so many who will feel passionate enough to 'believe' admin side of story that clearly has holes.
PUSH is when enlisted folks try to spread a line of debate that they want other people to read/believe. (active group)
PULL is when the outlets ASK their contributors to spread a line that they want other people to read/believe. (on-demand group)
It will be an interesting exercise to study "contributors" along with type, delivery outlet, frequency, status etc. and correlate with their other contributions. Countries like India will gain an understanding on the extent of propaganda machinery that is at disposal to super powers, how it is organized, and how they need to respond if they get into situations to counter it.
habal wrote:Is Obama still a muslim .. or atleast crypto .. that he has to bow in deference at Saudi king ?
because otherwise it makes no sense.
why else does he have to adopt such a compromising body language before saudi royalty ?
only others doing so are the pakis and maybe other non-arab muslim countries below poverty line.
his wife is not a muslim and she has nothing but the deepest contempt for all things arab, whatever else one might say about her.
I don't think that he is bowing, whatever the picture may purport to show.
He is the US president and they are a bunch of bedsheet wearing goombahs.
He is either showing them something or examining something closely, period.
Boston, Paris, and San Bernadino attacks have common thread of local radicalized jihadis who staged terrorist attacks.
The perpetrators were already jihadized and not the travel to nether regions.
They travelled only because they were already jihadized.
ramana wrote:Boston, Paris, and San Bernadino attacks have common thread of local radicalized jihadis who staged terrorist attacks.
The perpetrators were already jihadized and not the travel to nether regions.
They travelled only because they were already jihadized.
Same scenario as Kashmir. Perhaps Pakistan intends to negotiate independence for California!
There is an interesting angle between Paris and San B. Both have female soosais (allegedly)...that complicates the security dimension and if there is a proof that they may have been "white" then I expect all hell to break loose.
for example, I would guess that TSA workers, most are black workers, will have field day everyday having their hands all over white female travelers right in front of their white male counterparts, a situation that blacks and other non-whites have to bear all the time, but a fit case for further angering white majority.
That would be a major reason why a 'cover up' will be justified and patsys be found (consistent with mainstream meme).
San Bernardino is growing curiouser and curiouser. Now the guy, Marquez, who sold the guns to Farook became a Muslim few years back and wanted to do Jihad with Farook. -- CNN
Trump says even Muslims are behind him to ban them for a year and review again if they need to lift the ban further. The odd aspect of these gopers is that a dozen odd contenders still think they make a giant match against Trump or Hilary. The fact is number game says Bernie can easily trump these dirty goper-dozen.
Kick bernie out, hilary writes down in the Amir Khan history as a possible first woman prez. Now, we all know how Trump will make the dirty dozen eat trash soon, but it is so funny after so many opinion polls, they don't feel the game is not on their hands anymore.
I am all for Trump after he used the M word with Love. He said he loves muslims, but we need to ban them. that is so touching! Hey, even muslims are for banning! what is the problem?
He is the right candidate for India to contain ISIS in the neighborhood. And Modi-Trump would be like bullet train and fiber optics connecting all homes.
^The Road to hell is paved with good intentions. Be careful what you wish for.
Once Ms are stopped coming into US. You think it will stop with that, then the Isolationist strain will use this route to stop other races including er. SDREs.
Eg. Some Indians sided with the white minority in South Africa and had to face the music from the Zulus and other mainstream post Apartheid politicos.
Once this is done, treatment for Indics on lines of gypsies in Nazi Germany a few decades down when the industrial scale cleaning party ritual gets going cannot be ruled out.
ramana wrote:Boston, Paris, and San Bernadino attacks have common thread of local radicalized jihadis who staged terrorist attacks.
The perpetrators were already jihadized and not the travel to nether regions.
They travelled only because they were already jihadized.
The Boston bombers were small time amateurs. As Shiv has said the evidence is plain and simple in front of the eyes of Americans, but they refuse to see:
1. 2015 San Bernadino shooting - radicalized by Pakistanis
2. 2009 Fort Hood shooting - radicalized by Pakistanis
3. 2001 Sept. 11th attacks - radicalized by Pakistanis
4. 1993 CIA shooting - radicalized by Pakistanis
5. 1993 World Trade Center bombing - radicalized by Pakistanis
What will happen when TSP actually has fissile WG plutonium (right now it's just FUD to control India)?
Paul wrote:
Once this is done, treatment for Indics on lines of gypsies in Nazi Germany a few decades down when the industrial scale cleaning party ritual gets going cannot be ruled out.
Them people call themselves Roma (please to avoid gypsies which is derogatory to them).
ramana wrote:BTh
1. 2015 San Bernadino shooting - radicalized by Pakistanis
2. 2009 Fort Hood shooting - radicalized by Pakistanis
3. 2001 Sept. 11th attacks - radicalized by Pakistanis
4. 1993 CIA shooting - radicalized by Pakistanis
5. 1993 World Trade Center bombing - radicalized by Pakistanis
Paul, if Peter gleefully clears the hell then roads can be enjoyed till then. I always don't think after events that is supposed to bring peace. Don't we say here: give peace a chance, destroy Pakistan. That is also a road to hell.
We are over analyzing the problem here and the problem is given in his statement. His intentions will drive Modi who is sitting on the other edge of delinking terrorism from religion for a global push that UN ratifies his approaches by bullet points. We will see a Unlike-Pole join soon... maglev strengths for a common enemy cause.
Genuine SDREs will never be blocked even if Allah wishes. Their business model drives because of alien-imports. They will not join a Moharrum party on this one.
Inner Jihad is strong with Dalila Mogahed. They all respectfully shoot her down.
Arsa Noumani is Indian American muslim. She was born in Mumbai and she has expressed it clearly that Islam needs reformation especially of its core Jihadi ideology.
She should be brought on tv shows along with Tarak Fateh.
Another is Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, a Syrian American doctor. These are the kind muslims who are in short supply all over the world.
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TSJones wrote:
gawd, I would luv to put those faces on a target for my mini 30 at the shootin' range.
I would have instant coolness status amongst my colleague peer group there.
Do you seriously need to share what you do gleefully in the privacy of your own idiocy with the rest of us?
You & your colleagues either subscribe to a nation of rules or are no different from the enemy you hate!
Did you copy that concept from the newOld India? which is called Bharat.
There would be a bigger India-US relationship if we can filter out religious underpinnings and focus on strengthening this concept. We have much more in concept to share to the world. We have a very strong model that is now abused by many (invaded mindsets).
Satya_anveshi wrote:There is an interesting angle between Paris and San B. Both have female soosais (allegedly)...that complicates the security dimension and if there is a proof that they may have been "white" then .
Donald Trump will call for a ban on imports of white wimmens
...starting with Mohterma Hilary Bibi.
Lawd knows he has had enough terrorizing experiences with home-grown 100% GM- corn& beef-fed white wimmens - married what, 12 times?
ramana wrote:Boston, Paris, and San Bernadino attacks have common thread of local radicalized jihadis who staged terrorist attacks.
The perpetrators were already jihadized and not the travel to nether regions.
They travelled only because they were already jihadized.
Like I said within minutes of the shooting, this is 100% home grown terror onlee.
100% home grown in US + 100% home grown in Paki/Saudi. Pakis can try all they want to but can not deny it. No amount of following holy book + Americanized education + .. BS will work this time, since it is USA and has considerable well organized media that leans right wing. The Americans will simply say that Americans also have a holy book, so it can get very bad since Pakis can't cover terror any which way.
Like Su Swamy said, the massive data collection orgs can easily link Shock-in-awe Rook Khan to Da-woodies on hawalas and get strip searched, but these Jihadies now communicate in AES 256bit encryption mode, with public-private certificates. Where is the chance even for the FBI team to break it?
256 bit is too small. It can be broken in very many cases especially given the computing resources and other humint the TLAs can bring to bear on the problem. Even 512 bit is not safe enough.
They have to communicate using 1024 or better still 2048 bit keys for any kind of privacy as of now. By the way old communications using 128 bit, when (not if) cracked, can reveal lot of information as well.
is there any kind of email plugin that people use to select 2056bit aes which is decrypted using pre-sent private key sent by carrier pigeon/human mule?
Singha wrote:is there any kind of email plugin that people use to select 2056bit aes which is decrypted using pre-sent private key sent by carrier pigeon/human mule?
Pardon the digression but to me this question sounds like what the girl asks right at the beginning of this video. Watch 30 seconds onlee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmYT79tPvLg
Singha wrote:is there any kind of email plugin that people use to select 2056bit aes which is decrypted using pre-sent private key sent by carrier pigeon/human mule?
AES is 128, 192 or 256-bit only. Also, you could script it out with fetchmail or some such, but I digress. Key distribution and keeping the key secret is the problem you'll need to solve in that case.
The tour of the sophisticated aircraft carrier– a rare for a foreign leader — was given by US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter himself.
The two leaders, accompanied by senior defence officials and diplomats from both sides, spent nearly four hours on the ship itself, wherein Parrikar was given a detailed first-hand experience of the top aircraft carrier which in recent years has played a key role in support of American military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Parrikar described the experience as "fantastic".
It seems US is doing every bit to impress technocrat defence minister.
It would be nice if the US stooped giving Pak mil aid to the tune of billions,more F-16s on the way,etc."making money out of our misery",by selling arms to both mortal enemies makes the US laugh all the way to the bank. The famed US analyst Luttwak said that Dubya Bush was a genius "who started a war between the Sunnis and Shiites to last 1000 years!" The Brits and Lady Mountbatten allegedly seduced Nehru into accepting Partition against the sentiments of Gandhiji and other patriots,created Pakistan,severed India into two halves which have been at war with each other ever since. US policy towards the Indian sub-continent has remained firmly rooted to the British divide and rule mantra,and "playing both sides against the the middle".
Singha wrote:is there any kind of email plugin that people use to select 2056bit aes which is decrypted using pre-sent private key sent by carrier pigeon/human mule?
AES is 128, 192 or 256-bit only. Also, you could script it out with fetchmail or some such, but I digress. Key distribution and keeping the key secret is the problem you'll need to solve in that case.
I don't need any encryption.. but still I can send voluminous information in BENIS!
actually, it may not be digression or joke. it might be exactly what they are doing. /CT
Hey, even muslims are for banning! what is the problem?
